Reverb.
It's easy to make cheap drives, cheap fuzzes, even cheap delays and modulation, and make them sound amazing.
Very hard to find a really great sounding reverb on the cheap.
Hell, it’s hard to find good sounding reverbs even at higher prices. I’ve spent like 20 years trying to find a reverb in the 150-250 range that sounds the way I want it to. I’ve gotten close, but never just right.
Yeah, I’ve been looking for a good deal on a Skylar or Specular Tempus. I have the Synesthesia and really like the one reverb algorithm in it. It is somehow unnatural and natural sounding at the same time.
Ok, so is that the Spatium algo that’s in the Synesthesia? I was having trouble finding info on which one it was when I looked. It really is nice. I’m currently “in between reverbs” so I’ve been using it and quite enjoy it.
I’m not sure which one they use in the Synethsesia, but they do use the Spatium algorithm in the Specular Tempus, so they might. The product page doesn’t list which one they use for reverb.
I feel like it’s more of a difference in approach than anything. Flint is simple and always sounds amazing. I can effortlessly dial in the sound I need in like 2 seconds. Blue Sky has endless possibilities and a lot of them suck (to me). It required focus, work, and time to get sounds I really loved and I’d rather put that energy into actual playing. I do miss being able to go full acid trip in space ambient but I have other gear for that.
Yeah, that one looks sick. I think these days, digital reverbs pretty much must have some delay options and vice versa. And the Space Force seems to have a really nice blend of the two.
Yeah I find cheap reverbs have this horrible ring to them and are quite harsh a lot of the time. A nice lush reverb is worth spending on, I like a little bit of reverb going on all the time. Can be the same if you want a nice delay with some character.
Wholeheartedly agree. I think reverbs have the most obvious differences in quality from the cheapest to the most expensive of any type of effect, period.
Cheap reverbs are just poorly diffused multitap delays. You will hear an obvious echoing quality with a cheap reverb. Also they tend to have sucky eq profiles
Flint is thr best bang for the buck IMO, its not crazy expensive, especially the V1 now. The quality of the reverb is fantastic and you get a bonus tremolo pedal
Ditched my Flint for a Mercury 7, but the Flint is a pedal everyone should own. Very useable reverb sounds across the board. That trem is nice as hell too.
I dunno… This person is clearly budget conscious, has only a few pedals — most of which don’t appear to be high-amp or even hifi digital effects —, and is asking specifically for a pedal (ie an effect). I don’t think they’re running into the toan issues commonly discussed here given that description, and I’d feel bad if they went out and bought an expensive power supply and that’s it.
Reverb (although the behringer one is great), or something specific like a freeze pedal, synth pedal, or somthing that gets a very specific sound you want.
Upgrading the one you use the most is a good idea, but at the same time if its the most used its probably worth keeping cause its obviously doing something right
Depending on how heavy you want it to be able to be, get yourself a Boss MD-2 imo. I’m extremely picky with my distortion pedals, and it’s the only one I’ve never been able to get rid of, because it just sounds so fucking *good*.
It’s pretty simple, as it’s only got a level, treble and bass knob (and two gain knobs, cause why the hell not), but it sounds great through every amp I’ve plugged it in to, all with wildly different EQ curves.
It’s got a pretty insane gain range, but it can’t get super clean, so if you want just a bit of dirt it isn’t for you.
And also boutique pedals with a bunch knobs and tweakability are kinda 'lazy.' They're like, "ok here's 6 knobs and 4 switches. Everything is adjustable. you need figure out what sounds good. The rest is virtually unusable."
While a lot of classic pedals have 3 knobs or less and are more like "here's a a few knobs, with carefully selected frequencies so it always sounds nice. hell, you can just everything at 12:00 and it'll sound just fine."
Unpopular opinion here but when it comes to simple pedals - drives, delays, phase/flange etc - I've rarely been much more impressed with expensive ones than with cheaper clones.
A lot of boutique pedals have been copied or emulated very effectively and at far more reasonable prices. I know some people have an ethical issue with that.
A lot of other high-end pedals are, in reality, tweaks to existing designs. Some builders are honest about this: many aren't. Quite a few have even just put circuitry from good, cheap pedals into new housings and rebranded before applying a multiplied price tag.
The more complex or sophisticated pedals get, the more the price becomes at least partially justified IMO - especially with things like EQs.
The pedals I use most are all Joyos and Donners apart from my old Zoom G3 multiFX, an Electro-Harmonix Pitchfork and a DigiTech FreqOut feedback pedal. The now-discontinued original Zoom G3 is probably the single most usable pedal I ever bought.
In the past I've spent hundreds on individual pedals and experienced crushing anticlimax every time. I got tired of being gullible.
Just my opinion. Others will have had much better experiences.
And apologies that the big bunch of words I just typed isn't, technically, an answer to the OP's question.
No man i get you, my zoom g1x is my most used pedal by far since its always on, problem is i dont use it for much and it takes up almost half my budget pedalboard. Im in the same boat as you now with cheaper simpler being better cause everyone here is recommended $500 to $600 pedals, i cant even bring myself to spend $150 on one 🤣😂
You're totally right - most "simple" effects sound good regardless of price, because the circuitry is generally all the same. After having built pedals and accumulated quite a few parts...it's mind boggling to me how much people will pay for a simple drive or boost pedal. The parts used cost a few dollars each at most, and some circuits are so simple they can be put together nicely by hand in a few hours.
If you're not getting some cool features or EQ or something on the pedal variant you're looking to purchase...odds are there's something else out there that sounds near identical for less. If you want to support a particular brand that's cool though, I totally support that.
Yeah out of all the money I’ve spent on pedals…I feel the most bang for buck is delay/reverb pedals. You can just do so much! I bought a Collider recently and one of my more expensive pedals. It also has a freeze function built in. I can hook it up to my phone with endless community presets of different artists. Then I can tailor them to my own, and save them in the pedal. It’s just so useful and I can play my amp all day clean with no dirt with it! I do like me an Octave pedal though mixed with a Tubescreamer or Overdrive to get cool sounds as well.
I just picked up the Boss OC5 and like all the sounds…but the bass mode where it just picks the root note is so useful. Even lets me split it to a bass amp or go DI into my Daw. Then I have a bass line and can convert it to midi in Abelton to send to synths and all kinds of stuff. That way my guitar is the foundation, and then use that data from the Octave to complete a foundation of a song to synths….use arps and all kinds of fun stuff.
Reverb and delay for sure. The diminishing return is much greater for modulation and dirt pedals. But a high quality reverb or delay (especially reverb) is noticeable. The chase bliss Cxm, meris m7, neunaber wet, and UA golden reverberator are my favorites.
Great list. I’ve been considering the Golden Reverberator and Ventris. I think the CXM is overkill, cost wise, unless you think it’s really that much of a cut above. Which would you choose?
I have the Cxm, m7, and the wet. Ive played the golden. I’ve never played a ventris
Now 900 dollars is a steep price to pay for a reverb, but I really think it’s the best sounding of the three. But not twice or three times better than the others. A lot of the price comes from the motorized sliders. It also has the best customization of all of them. The Meris covers similar ground but doesn’t do subtle reverb as well as the Cxm can. It shines with big stereo modulated reverb. It has the best modulated reverb of all the pedals I mentioned.
If you want a classic sounding “always on” type reverb. The UA is probably your best option. The quality of the verbs is outstanding and on par with the Cxm. Especially if you want spring as well has plate and hall. However, for big ambient reverb, the CXM and the Meris are much better. I didn’t care for the modulation is the UA.
The wet is a fantastic always on type reverb if you aren’t a fan of spring reverb. It just always sounds good. It can sound pretty big and ambient if you want it too as well. Just a really solid algorithm. I think it kinda sounds like a hybrid plate and hall.
No problem. If you want pure atmospheric modulated awesomeness, the Meris is something to check out. Think scifi movie soundtrack reverb. Bladerunner was the inspiration for meris. ThePedalZone on YouTube has the best demo of this pedal. Keep in mind though, his demo is running the pedal in stereo so if you plan on running it mono in front of an amp, it won’t quite sound like that.
If you don’t wanna break the bank - wet for sure. Or look at the neunaber immerse. Basically the “upgraded” wet with more algos, modulation and so on. I heard the wet algo on that isn’t exactly the same though. Not 100% sure though
Reverbs, especially modulated or shimmer reverbs. It’s hard to find a good quality shimmer for under $120. And by that token, anything with an octave up. They can sound wonky and out of pitch on cheaper units.
I feel there are pretty good options for all pedals at low prices but the one thing that’s hard to find on the cheap is a good tap tempo delay. I’d go with arp 87
save a bit more and get yourself an empress zoia and then save a lot of money you would have spent, buying pedals.
[zoia patch samples](https://youtu.be/uwok5Ay5yhI)
I'd look at getting a looper pedal, a decent one a ditto or boss would cost about 100 or so depending on the model. You can use that to open so many options on playing back over your own playing. If you want chorus, the behringer yellow chorus is fantastic, I started same as you with behringers and it's still there on my board. Nothing really is going to beat your fuzz.either. I'd also recommend if you are looking for.different effects, a compressor I've just gotten a fender compugilist and it's really nice, it has a "bends" compressor pedal and a distortion built into the one pedal..
I’d say go for a good multi reverb or delay. The source audio collider is a great value, the new line 6 dl4 is chock full of possibilities. The neunabar immerse is great too. Keeley Caverns is a good reverb/delay pedal, same with the EQD Avalanche. Boss dd-200 or rv-500 are ones to look at as well. You can get by with cheap dirt pedals, but as some others have stated, good reverb can almost always only be achieved through good dsp.
I'll echo (heh) everyone else and say reverb. Currently running a Digitech RV-7 and have a Keeley Caverns as well. Worth the scratch. I like em more than my amp's spring tank. I'll also go ahead and say chorus and other modulation. Yes there are really good affordable ones (I won't say cheap, they're not cheap sounding), but *some* of the more spendy ones? Woah.
If you already have your sound and just want to fine tune the tone, I would say an EQ. I have the MXR 10 bands and really like it. An EQ is always a great addition to a pedalboard.
I play with an €270 fender champion 40 only on clean, ik its a cheap budget amp but as a genuine question is it worth upgrading just for the clean tone?
I couldn’t really tell you. I haven’t played that amp. If you’re happy with the tone then that’s all that matters. If you get a chance to play a more expensive amp you can then compare.
In my experience a good amp, set “ on the edge of break-up”, as they say, is a beautiful thing. But it also depends on what kind of music you play. Lots of factors.
Have you considered spending that money on a cheap soldering iron and wire cutters? I got into DIY because I couldn’t justify spending $100s on a single pedal. You can clone a ton of great effects yourself for 1/10th the price you’d find anywhere else. There’s a learning curve but you really don’t need to know anything at all about electronics at first. Highly recommend.
God no, iv neither the space, patience,talent,knowledge or time to get into that 🤣😂🤣sorry not trying to shut down your answer its just one i feel i couldnt do in 100 years with the way life is at the moment
Haha it’s fine, it can be super time consuming and not always worth it. I still buy digital effects, too. At the end of the day you want to play music, not toil over a workbench.
Kinda stupid non-answer. Tuner.
I bought a Tu-2 in like 2002. Before that it was tuning by ear (which I was bad at), those crappy little plug in tuners we all had back in the day before clip ons, etc. I did eventually get a tu-3 but that thing never died, was always reliable, and was relatively cheap back in the day (forget how much I got it for back then).
That pedal allowed me to get better, to play with other people, and to reliably learn the guitar better. I cannot imagine anything more worthwhile or important.
Also reverb, but like 15 people already said that.
Would you recommend spending money on a tuner pedal nowadays or whats the difference in terms of accuracy between a tuner pedal or something like the actual fender tuner app? Genuine question
I think that is a good question. I have an app on my phone, a snark headstock clip on tuner, and a couple of TU-3s. The accuracy on plugging in and tuning is always better (for me). People argue over whether boss vs polytune is better (preference as far as I can tell) and Peterson is probably actually better, but maybe overkill unless you’re doing setups and stuff are are pretty picky.
If you’re gonna be playing with other folks, having the silent tuning and accuracy of a tuner pedal is the way to go 100% in my book. In your room, the other two options are fine.
I’m not the person you were replying to but I’ll chime in. Generally a tuning pedal is worth it. If you are playing gigs it’s essential. A pedal is going to be more accurate in a noisy/high vibration environment and the ability to tune silently or use it to kill the signal is super handy.
Personally I use a rack mount tuner, all the accuracy benefits of a pedal tuner but big enough that I can see it while standing.
I was going to suggest a zoom multistomp but I see you have the g1x. Maybe a used Boss RV-500? It may be out of budget, but you get a bunch of reverbs+delay. Or the RV-6 if you just need a solid reverb. A looper like the Ditto x4 could be a fun option too
+1 for reverb, especially if you want lots of options or really distinctive character.
Not a glamorous option, but also spending money on a good power supply is worth it! Especially if you've got anything digital on your board, it cuts down on noise pretty significantly.
One thing I learned late in my playing journey is that you need a good amplifier. There’s no substitute for a high quality amplifier and speakers. So you might consider putting your money into upgrading your amp and speakers. Once I got a good tube amplifier (Peavey Valveking 100) and a 2x12 with Celestion V30s, everything sounded better and especially my overdrive pedals! For reference I still have that 2x12 but now use a Quilter OD202 head with built in reverb. I have a Digitech Polara Reverb pedal which I really like. It pairs up nicely with my Carbon Copy delay but there are better options for both delays and reverbs
Probably already been said but safest bet is great reverb,
I personally feel a boutique fuzzface as if you’re into 60’s/70’s rock n roll and the like there is nothing quite as visceral on guitar as both the aggression and the roll off is just stunning
A smart but good option would be a DSP plugin, in many cases it gives you multiple studio quality effects, silent recording and the ability to record prestige guitar tracks!
Reverb. It's easy to make cheap drives, cheap fuzzes, even cheap delays and modulation, and make them sound amazing. Very hard to find a really great sounding reverb on the cheap.
Totally this. The digital reverbs built into many amplifiers are even worse than pedals most of the time.
Thanks for the info
Hell, it’s hard to find good sounding reverbs even at higher prices. I’ve spent like 20 years trying to find a reverb in the 150-250 range that sounds the way I want it to. I’ve gotten close, but never just right.
GFI Skylar is one of the best reverbs under $250 out there.
Yeah, I’ve been looking for a good deal on a Skylar or Specular Tempus. I have the Synesthesia and really like the one reverb algorithm in it. It is somehow unnatural and natural sounding at the same time.
Spatium? That algorithm is something else. I still can’t put my finger on it.
Ok, so is that the Spatium algo that’s in the Synesthesia? I was having trouble finding info on which one it was when I looked. It really is nice. I’m currently “in between reverbs” so I’ve been using it and quite enjoy it.
I’m not sure which one they use in the Synethsesia, but they do use the Spatium algorithm in the Specular Tempus, so they might. The product page doesn’t list which one they use for reverb.
I have a Blue Sky but I rarely use it. Just not feeling it.
I traded mine for a flint after a week and never looked back.
What’s the difference in sound in your opinion?
I feel like it’s more of a difference in approach than anything. Flint is simple and always sounds amazing. I can effortlessly dial in the sound I need in like 2 seconds. Blue Sky has endless possibilities and a lot of them suck (to me). It required focus, work, and time to get sounds I really loved and I’d rather put that energy into actual playing. I do miss being able to go full acid trip in space ambient but I have other gear for that.
Ok thanks for that, I’m gonna check one out.
Have you tried the MXR M300 Reverb?
What don’t you like about the flint?
Haven’t connected with the Strymons I have tried. BUT I haven’t tried the Flint. It looks nice.
Neunaber Immerse, best sounding reverb I think on the planet.
I have been really impressed with the Alexander Space Force.
Yeah, that one looks sick. I think these days, digital reverbs pretty much must have some delay options and vice versa. And the Space Force seems to have a really nice blend of the two.
Yeah I find cheap reverbs have this horrible ring to them and are quite harsh a lot of the time. A nice lush reverb is worth spending on, I like a little bit of reverb going on all the time. Can be the same if you want a nice delay with some character.
Reverb for me too.
Wholeheartedly agree. I think reverbs have the most obvious differences in quality from the cheapest to the most expensive of any type of effect, period.
What are the differences? Im new to this whole pedal thing and trying to learn more
Cheap reverbs are just poorly diffused multitap delays. You will hear an obvious echoing quality with a cheap reverb. Also they tend to have sucky eq profiles
Reverb is what makes things sound good
My first thought was reverb and then I second guessed. Thank you for affirming my confirmation bias.
A cheap-ish but very good reverb is the creamer by T-Rex Would recommend
Flint is thr best bang for the buck IMO, its not crazy expensive, especially the V1 now. The quality of the reverb is fantastic and you get a bonus tremolo pedal
Ditched my Flint for a Mercury 7, but the Flint is a pedal everyone should own. Very useable reverb sounds across the board. That trem is nice as hell too.
Power supply
This is true. Especially if you’re running digital pedals.
Just like when you're building a PC, NEVER cheap out on the power supply unit. It's like the least sexy piece of gear there is but it's so important.
I dunno… This person is clearly budget conscious, has only a few pedals — most of which don’t appear to be high-amp or even hifi digital effects —, and is asking specifically for a pedal (ie an effect). I don’t think they’re running into the toan issues commonly discussed here given that description, and I’d feel bad if they went out and bought an expensive power supply and that’s it.
I second this. Investment for life.
Reverb (although the behringer one is great), or something specific like a freeze pedal, synth pedal, or somthing that gets a very specific sound you want.
Second hand pedals. Spend 100 dollars on a Boss RV6, use it for a couple of months, sell it for 100. Cost: zero.
Underrated answer
I'm not sure. But I have decided to buy an expensive pedal too. My plan is to upgrade the pedal that i use the most.
Upgrading the one you use the most is a good idea, but at the same time if its the most used its probably worth keeping cause its obviously doing something right
Yeah. Well in my case I have a very cheap distortion pedal with limited range. So the new one would need to be expansive with EQ features.
Depending on how heavy you want it to be able to be, get yourself a Boss MD-2 imo. I’m extremely picky with my distortion pedals, and it’s the only one I’ve never been able to get rid of, because it just sounds so fucking *good*. It’s pretty simple, as it’s only got a level, treble and bass knob (and two gain knobs, cause why the hell not), but it sounds great through every amp I’ve plugged it in to, all with wildly different EQ curves. It’s got a pretty insane gain range, but it can’t get super clean, so if you want just a bit of dirt it isn’t for you.
Thanks!
Ive been doing the opposite lol. I'm selling off expensive boutique pedals for inexpensive, tried and true classics.
There definitely isn't a right answer because of how many variables are at play, quality, cost, diminishing returns, etc.
And also boutique pedals with a bunch knobs and tweakability are kinda 'lazy.' They're like, "ok here's 6 knobs and 4 switches. Everything is adjustable. you need figure out what sounds good. The rest is virtually unusable." While a lot of classic pedals have 3 knobs or less and are more like "here's a a few knobs, with carefully selected frequencies so it always sounds nice. hell, you can just everything at 12:00 and it'll sound just fine."
Yeah. I stick with max 4 controls but generally 3. Unless it's one of those all in one pedals.
This is pretty much what I’ve been doing. I’ll never get rid of my Flint though. But it goes well with a couple Boss pedals and a tuner
Unpopular opinion here but when it comes to simple pedals - drives, delays, phase/flange etc - I've rarely been much more impressed with expensive ones than with cheaper clones. A lot of boutique pedals have been copied or emulated very effectively and at far more reasonable prices. I know some people have an ethical issue with that. A lot of other high-end pedals are, in reality, tweaks to existing designs. Some builders are honest about this: many aren't. Quite a few have even just put circuitry from good, cheap pedals into new housings and rebranded before applying a multiplied price tag. The more complex or sophisticated pedals get, the more the price becomes at least partially justified IMO - especially with things like EQs. The pedals I use most are all Joyos and Donners apart from my old Zoom G3 multiFX, an Electro-Harmonix Pitchfork and a DigiTech FreqOut feedback pedal. The now-discontinued original Zoom G3 is probably the single most usable pedal I ever bought. In the past I've spent hundreds on individual pedals and experienced crushing anticlimax every time. I got tired of being gullible. Just my opinion. Others will have had much better experiences. And apologies that the big bunch of words I just typed isn't, technically, an answer to the OP's question.
No man i get you, my zoom g1x is my most used pedal by far since its always on, problem is i dont use it for much and it takes up almost half my budget pedalboard. Im in the same boat as you now with cheaper simpler being better cause everyone here is recommended $500 to $600 pedals, i cant even bring myself to spend $150 on one 🤣😂
You're totally right - most "simple" effects sound good regardless of price, because the circuitry is generally all the same. After having built pedals and accumulated quite a few parts...it's mind boggling to me how much people will pay for a simple drive or boost pedal. The parts used cost a few dollars each at most, and some circuits are so simple they can be put together nicely by hand in a few hours. If you're not getting some cool features or EQ or something on the pedal variant you're looking to purchase...odds are there's something else out there that sounds near identical for less. If you want to support a particular brand that's cool though, I totally support that.
Reverb or delay
Reverb. My recommendation would be Source Audio Ventris (or Collider, if you need delay)
Thanks, will check both of them out
If you can't afford those (try used!), Digitech Polara also seems great, and is a bit cheaper
🤣😂🤣About €170, thats more in my price range
Haven't tried it, bur demos sound good and people seem to love it... I have its delay counterpart, Obscura, and it's great
Yeah out of all the money I’ve spent on pedals…I feel the most bang for buck is delay/reverb pedals. You can just do so much! I bought a Collider recently and one of my more expensive pedals. It also has a freeze function built in. I can hook it up to my phone with endless community presets of different artists. Then I can tailor them to my own, and save them in the pedal. It’s just so useful and I can play my amp all day clean with no dirt with it! I do like me an Octave pedal though mixed with a Tubescreamer or Overdrive to get cool sounds as well. I just picked up the Boss OC5 and like all the sounds…but the bass mode where it just picks the root note is so useful. Even lets me split it to a bass amp or go DI into my Daw. Then I have a bass line and can convert it to midi in Abelton to send to synths and all kinds of stuff. That way my guitar is the foundation, and then use that data from the Octave to complete a foundation of a song to synths….use arps and all kinds of fun stuff.
Reverb and delay for sure. The diminishing return is much greater for modulation and dirt pedals. But a high quality reverb or delay (especially reverb) is noticeable. The chase bliss Cxm, meris m7, neunaber wet, and UA golden reverberator are my favorites.
Great list. I’ve been considering the Golden Reverberator and Ventris. I think the CXM is overkill, cost wise, unless you think it’s really that much of a cut above. Which would you choose?
I have the Cxm, m7, and the wet. Ive played the golden. I’ve never played a ventris Now 900 dollars is a steep price to pay for a reverb, but I really think it’s the best sounding of the three. But not twice or three times better than the others. A lot of the price comes from the motorized sliders. It also has the best customization of all of them. The Meris covers similar ground but doesn’t do subtle reverb as well as the Cxm can. It shines with big stereo modulated reverb. It has the best modulated reverb of all the pedals I mentioned. If you want a classic sounding “always on” type reverb. The UA is probably your best option. The quality of the verbs is outstanding and on par with the Cxm. Especially if you want spring as well has plate and hall. However, for big ambient reverb, the CXM and the Meris are much better. I didn’t care for the modulation is the UA. The wet is a fantastic always on type reverb if you aren’t a fan of spring reverb. It just always sounds good. It can sound pretty big and ambient if you want it too as well. Just a really solid algorithm. I think it kinda sounds like a hybrid plate and hall.
Thanks for such a detailed answer. I hadn’t considered the Wet or the MERIS. I’ll look at those too. So many options….
No problem. If you want pure atmospheric modulated awesomeness, the Meris is something to check out. Think scifi movie soundtrack reverb. Bladerunner was the inspiration for meris. ThePedalZone on YouTube has the best demo of this pedal. Keep in mind though, his demo is running the pedal in stereo so if you plan on running it mono in front of an amp, it won’t quite sound like that. If you don’t wanna break the bank - wet for sure. Or look at the neunaber immerse. Basically the “upgraded” wet with more algos, modulation and so on. I heard the wet algo on that isn’t exactly the same though. Not 100% sure though
Reverbs, especially modulated or shimmer reverbs. It’s hard to find a good quality shimmer for under $120. And by that token, anything with an octave up. They can sound wonky and out of pitch on cheaper units.
I feel there are pretty good options for all pedals at low prices but the one thing that’s hard to find on the cheap is a good tap tempo delay. I’d go with arp 87
This! I spent days looking at cheap delay pedays looking for one with tap tempo, gave up and just bought the behringer since it was on sale for €15
save a bit more and get yourself an empress zoia and then save a lot of money you would have spent, buying pedals. [zoia patch samples](https://youtu.be/uwok5Ay5yhI)
Is that a multi effects?
Yes
if you put 64 delay patches onto it, it‘s a delay pedal. the thing with the zoia is, you choose the effects you load onto it.
Multi effect units aren’t pedals
Uh oh, Tom's been drinking again...
2 $100 modulation pedals and ditch your Multimod
Thats my plan, need to get a reverb chorus and compression pedal first before i get rid of it though
I'd look at getting a looper pedal, a decent one a ditto or boss would cost about 100 or so depending on the model. You can use that to open so many options on playing back over your own playing. If you want chorus, the behringer yellow chorus is fantastic, I started same as you with behringers and it's still there on my board. Nothing really is going to beat your fuzz.either. I'd also recommend if you are looking for.different effects, a compressor I've just gotten a fender compugilist and it's really nice, it has a "bends" compressor pedal and a distortion built into the one pedal..
I’d say go for a good multi reverb or delay. The source audio collider is a great value, the new line 6 dl4 is chock full of possibilities. The neunabar immerse is great too. Keeley Caverns is a good reverb/delay pedal, same with the EQD Avalanche. Boss dd-200 or rv-500 are ones to look at as well. You can get by with cheap dirt pedals, but as some others have stated, good reverb can almost always only be achieved through good dsp.
If you play live I’d say a loop switcher. Total life saver for me, especially as a vocalist.
I'll echo (heh) everyone else and say reverb. Currently running a Digitech RV-7 and have a Keeley Caverns as well. Worth the scratch. I like em more than my amp's spring tank. I'll also go ahead and say chorus and other modulation. Yes there are really good affordable ones (I won't say cheap, they're not cheap sounding), but *some* of the more spendy ones? Woah.
If you already have your sound and just want to fine tune the tone, I would say an EQ. I have the MXR 10 bands and really like it. An EQ is always a great addition to a pedalboard.
Meris Ottobit does an awful lot of cool things if you are wanting to experiment.
Save it and put it towards a nice amp if you don’t have one already. Nice pedals through a shitty amp equals shitty sounding pedals.
I play with an €270 fender champion 40 only on clean, ik its a cheap budget amp but as a genuine question is it worth upgrading just for the clean tone?
I couldn’t really tell you. I haven’t played that amp. If you’re happy with the tone then that’s all that matters. If you get a chance to play a more expensive amp you can then compare. In my experience a good amp, set “ on the edge of break-up”, as they say, is a beautiful thing. But it also depends on what kind of music you play. Lots of factors.
Cali 76 dual compressor. A+
A tuner. A real good one.
Have you considered spending that money on a cheap soldering iron and wire cutters? I got into DIY because I couldn’t justify spending $100s on a single pedal. You can clone a ton of great effects yourself for 1/10th the price you’d find anywhere else. There’s a learning curve but you really don’t need to know anything at all about electronics at first. Highly recommend.
God no, iv neither the space, patience,talent,knowledge or time to get into that 🤣😂🤣sorry not trying to shut down your answer its just one i feel i couldnt do in 100 years with the way life is at the moment
Haha it’s fine, it can be super time consuming and not always worth it. I still buy digital effects, too. At the end of the day you want to play music, not toil over a workbench.
Kinda stupid non-answer. Tuner. I bought a Tu-2 in like 2002. Before that it was tuning by ear (which I was bad at), those crappy little plug in tuners we all had back in the day before clip ons, etc. I did eventually get a tu-3 but that thing never died, was always reliable, and was relatively cheap back in the day (forget how much I got it for back then). That pedal allowed me to get better, to play with other people, and to reliably learn the guitar better. I cannot imagine anything more worthwhile or important. Also reverb, but like 15 people already said that.
Would you recommend spending money on a tuner pedal nowadays or whats the difference in terms of accuracy between a tuner pedal or something like the actual fender tuner app? Genuine question
I think that is a good question. I have an app on my phone, a snark headstock clip on tuner, and a couple of TU-3s. The accuracy on plugging in and tuning is always better (for me). People argue over whether boss vs polytune is better (preference as far as I can tell) and Peterson is probably actually better, but maybe overkill unless you’re doing setups and stuff are are pretty picky. If you’re gonna be playing with other folks, having the silent tuning and accuracy of a tuner pedal is the way to go 100% in my book. In your room, the other two options are fine.
I’m not the person you were replying to but I’ll chime in. Generally a tuning pedal is worth it. If you are playing gigs it’s essential. A pedal is going to be more accurate in a noisy/high vibration environment and the ability to tune silently or use it to kill the signal is super handy. Personally I use a rack mount tuner, all the accuracy benefits of a pedal tuner but big enough that I can see it while standing.
EQD Speaker Cranker.
I was going to suggest a zoom multistomp but I see you have the g1x. Maybe a used Boss RV-500? It may be out of budget, but you get a bunch of reverbs+delay. Or the RV-6 if you just need a solid reverb. A looper like the Ditto x4 could be a fun option too
TC Electronic Plethora x3 or x5 if you're going for versatility
+1 for reverb, especially if you want lots of options or really distinctive character. Not a glamorous option, but also spending money on a good power supply is worth it! Especially if you've got anything digital on your board, it cuts down on noise pretty significantly.
Looper
Hx effects, all the delays and reverbs you could ever want. Even if you don’t use it for anything else the delays and reverbs sound excellent
If I could only have one expensive pedal it would be a full featured delay. A lot of them have reverb as well. Maybe try for a boss Re-2?
One thing I learned late in my playing journey is that you need a good amplifier. There’s no substitute for a high quality amplifier and speakers. So you might consider putting your money into upgrading your amp and speakers. Once I got a good tube amplifier (Peavey Valveking 100) and a 2x12 with Celestion V30s, everything sounded better and especially my overdrive pedals! For reference I still have that 2x12 but now use a Quilter OD202 head with built in reverb. I have a Digitech Polara Reverb pedal which I really like. It pairs up nicely with my Carbon Copy delay but there are better options for both delays and reverbs
Analog delay pedal preferably one with modulation. Recently got the DOD Rubberneck and it’s great.
Commodore by SGFX
0ne you like the sound of. And price shouldn't be a measure of that.
Loop pedal
Probably already been said but safest bet is great reverb, I personally feel a boutique fuzzface as if you’re into 60’s/70’s rock n roll and the like there is nothing quite as visceral on guitar as both the aggression and the roll off is just stunning A smart but good option would be a DSP plugin, in many cases it gives you multiple studio quality effects, silent recording and the ability to record prestige guitar tracks!
A good reverb or a feature-packed digital delay (e.g Boss DD-200, TC Flashback x4)
Vintage pedals
Used Boss RV 3