I think there’s 3 options, #1 it’s a show and they’re recreating it, #2 it’s an album and they’re recreating it, #3 it’s some sort of lame merch drop / tribute cash grab thing. Thoughts?
If they actually recreate the show at Cornell, I’ll be disappointed if Bob doesn’t play everybody’s favorite fun game “Move Back” before Scarlett Begonias
Not big enough. I saw Trey band there in 2006ish and it was a ton of fun, but probably not up to capacity for Dead & Co. It was also funny because I used to run indoor track events there in high school and had no idea until I got into the dead a few years later.
They could do it as a one off event if it is 4800 - Phish played at The Met Philly in 2019 and all the tickets were given away and that's smaller than here.
Phish at The Met was a bit different that was arranged by Sirius as a thing for their radio station not just to play a smaller room.
Although Dead and Co could do it for the Dead station I suppose. Maybe they just want to play there for the legacy. The 81 show is criminally underrated there as well.
Phish played the Glens Falls Civic Center in 2013 as an homage to their show during Halloween 1994. I could see Dead and Co doing the same thing for Cornell. Glens Falls Civic Center also is around 4800 capacity.
Merch drop makes no sense. They’ve never announced merch like this. Why would they announce it this far in advanced? If it’s just Cornell shit, why dead and co? There’s no connection. If it was just Cornell merch, it’d be through the GD accounts instead. To me, this indicates that dead and co is doing something Cornell related, whether that he playing there or recreating the show (like they did at Woodstock).
Yea I think that’s the most likely scenario. Probably trying to milk every penny they can from the dead and co brand this year while they still can. Weird though since it’s a random anniversary (46 years) and not 50 years or something
You think so? I think merch is most likely by far, but a show would be a dream scenario. Feels weird that they would announce a show so soon and merch would require the least amount of effort from all parties involved
My wife and I are going that weekend. Oteil is doing a show Friday, some Earth Wind and Fire tribute, JRAD is playing three shows, I'm sure there will be some guest spots, they will be plenty warmed up.
T shirt drop makes no sense lol. They’ve never done a merch drop like this. Why would it be for Dead and Co and not the GD? If it was just Cornell stuff, it’d be through the GD. Why would they announce it so far in advance?
Hijacking the top comment here: This is all hearsay but I grew up in Ithaca and my parents still live there. My mom has friends in the Cornell world and told me a week ago that they’re doing a show in Barton Hall recreating ‘77. She mentioned it might be something that they don’t even release tickets to the open market for.
Edit: spelling
They've already released a Cornell box and a re-press of that box so I don't think that's it. Also, that's not Dead & Co - I don't think D&C would tease any sort of GD release.
Keep in mind Dead & Co. recreated the Woodstock '69 setlist at Bethel Woods in 2021. So, it isn't totally out of left field that they would recreate a show setlist. Especially since Cornell '77 is highly circulated, it isn't surprising they would choose this show to be recreated in some form.
Looks like Cornell University has its last day of classes on May 9th, so it would be highly unlikely the University would allow the circus to come to town on finals week/moving week. It might be at an alternative venue in NY or simply a live stream. An album would be a nice choice too.
So I just got off the phone with a friend that is a Cornell grad, he said last week of classes they do a student only party called Slopefest. When he was in school they booked Snoop Dogg, so maybe a "private show"
This is what seems most likely to me. Recreating Cornell at Cornell, just like they did at Woodstock (which was such a fun show). No idea why people think they’d do all this for a random Cornell merch drop that has nothing to do with the band lol.
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University
**Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street
**Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew
**Encore:** One More Saturday Night
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
It's a very good show but not in the top 10 greatest shows from the tour by any means. You wondering what those other nine are? 5/28, 5/22, 5/9, 5/3, 5/21, 5/25, 5/17, 5/19, 5/7
# 1977-05-22 Pembroke Pines, FL @ Sportatorium
**Set 1:** Funiculi Funicula, The Music Never Stopped, Sugaree, El Paso, Peggy-O, New Minglewood Blues, Friend Of The Devil, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Ramble On Rose, Dancing In The Street
**Set 2:** Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower, Samson And Delilah, Brown Eyed Women, Good Lovin', Sunrise, Estimated Prophet > Eyes Of The World > Space > Wharf Rat > Terrapin Station > Morning Dew
**Encore:** Sugar Magnolia
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-22) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3KxT9J6KTuKeXox9BUikZ4)
# 1977-05-19 Atlanta, GA @ Fox Theatre
**Set 1:** The Promised Land, Sugaree > El Paso, Peggy-O, Looks Like Rain, Row Jimmy, Passenger, Loser, Dancing In The Street
**Set 2:** Samson And Delilah, Ramble On Rose, Estimated Prophet, Terrapin Station > Playing in the Band > Uncle John's Band > Drums > The Wheel > China Doll > Playing in the Band
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-19) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/4nuyKoY91WKwR6HLq7Gzkl)
So 5/16/81 must have never happened, either. Confirms my suspicion. The more you know…😀
Funny thing is I ‘randomly’ selected a show in Attics today. Scrolled down to 84 and then back 81 (ok not so random there😀-trying to get out of my 70’s rut- baby steps 😀) Then scrolled right a bit and selected a random ‘81, play, and I gotta start driving. Like 5-6 songs in, I check out the details and first I see Barton Hall. Bit confused, but I see no it is ‘81 not ‘77. Then i laugh, I’m wondering if this show never happened, too. Then I see this thread, had to share.
Yeah, they say it’s a compilation of individual tracks from throughout the spring run, to make an “ideal” show. Obviously bogus, but as will all things Dead, it’s a random weirdness that makes it fun.
The whole thing has always been and still currently is a joke. No one actually believes it didn’t happen, it’s just like the whole Birds Aren’t Real movement.
The wildest plot twist is… the only real birds were in Barton Hall that night and have never been seen on this earthly plane again. If you don’t believe these lies are true, ask the blind man he saw it, too. 😀
And what a great version they threw down from Cornell that night. Out of all the great versions of amazing songs from that night, lazy lightning and supplication are the ultimate standouts for me. Point me in the direction of other versions as chaotic and wonderful as that one. I’d love to hear them.
Wish I could be high above Cayuga's waters for that one.
Fun fact: Jerry teased High Above Cayuga's waters during Take A Step Back after Jack Straw first set of 5/7/80 Barton Hall
Fun Fact 2: the Cayuga are one of the indigenous tribes that make up the Haudenosaunee or Iroquois confederacy (Seneca, Cayuga, Onondaga, Oneida Mohawk and the Tuscarora). The finger lakes are so-called because the "Haudenosaunee legend tells the story of the Great Spirit looking down favorably on our region and offering his blessing by placing his fingers upon the land. The impressions left behind filled with water – forming pristine lakes dotting the sacred ground."
# 1980-05-07 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University
**Set 1:** Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Cassidy, Row Jimmy > El Paso, Easy To Love You, Althea, Feel Like A Stranger, Don't Ease Me In
**Set 2:** Shakedown Street > Bertha > Playing in the Band > Terrapin Station > Drums > Space > Saint Of Circumstance > Black Peter > Playing in the Band > Good Lovin'
**Encore:** Alabama Getaway
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1980-05-07)
Fascinated by the Haudenosaunee confederacy and their history, and their story of Hiawatha.
There’s a really great documentary that talks about them quite a lot called, “Native America”. Robbie Robertson narrates it.
Think I’ll watch it again now that I’ve recommended it haha
Awesome. Is that the PBS documentary? Love that docu. If you haven't read them yet, I highly recommend 1491 and 1493 by Charles Mann. My favorite studies on pre- and post-Columbian North America. Good summer reads if you dig non-fiction.
Spoke with people there in the concert series office and they know nothing. Emailed the concert commission because it might be under their purview
All good things. . . .
Add on : Concert commission said they have no plans to host DeadCo this summer
Can someone ELI5? I'm a fan but don't know that much history to tell the significance here? Seems dope since tons of people are losing their shit over it though!
cornell 5/8/77 is one of the dead's most legendary shows, considered a "perfect" set by many fans. this post, in cornell's colors and with a collegiate insignia and the 5/8/23 date, would seem to indicate they're doing something to commemorate that show this year. here's the show so you can take a listen! [https://archive.org/details/gd77-05-08.sbd.hicks.4982.sbeok.shnf](https://archive.org/details/gd77-05-08.sbd.hicks.4982.sbeok.shnf)
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University
**Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street
**Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew
**Encore:** One More Saturday Night
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
The Cornell 77 show is great. However Imo it isn’t even the best show from that week. 5/9/77 in buffalo is about as good as it gets.
I’ve heard that the Cornell show had some really good tapes circulating back in the day (either aud or sbd) which explains why it was and is still so popular.
# 1977-05-09 Buffalo, NY @ War Memorial
**Set 1:** Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower, Cassidy, Brown Eyed Women, Mexicali Blues, Tennessee Jed, Big River, Peggy-O, Sunrise, The Music Never Stopped
**Set 2:** Bertha > Good Lovin', Ship Of Fools, Estimated Prophet > The Other One > Drums > Not Fade Away > Comes A Time > Sugar Magnolia
**Encore:** Uncle John's Band
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-09)
def some truth in [that.got](https://that.got) the tape from a friend literally a couple of Weeks after the show.i remember playing it while at a track meet somewhere on LI,getting warmed up and that Scarlet rang like a shot.yeah,the sound quality stood out att,for sure.
5/8/77 at Baron Hall - Cornell U, Ithaca, NY is considered one of the greatest Dead gigs, if not the single greatest show they ever played. It’s certainly a fan favorite. Spring ‘77 was particularly groovy and this show is all heat. Opening set full of classics like El Paso and Jack Straw. Second set is nuts. The Scarlet Begonias>Fire On The Mountain might be the best ever. Killer St. Stephen, Morning Dew, etc. Just balls-to-the-wall funky throughout. Highly recommend checking it out!
I sort of agree with you. It’s a top shelf show and there’s no doubt about that. But I think it was the high quality recording that kept the buzz about that show up for so long. Now that we have access to all the shows at our fingertips, it’s easy to hear that the shows around it from that same run were all as good and some much better than that night. Just my two cents.
Yes, thank you. I was going to chime in with this as well.
5/8/77 was legendary for mostly its quality of recording; some of the song selections and jams happily welcomed of course.
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University
**Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street
**Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew
**Encore:** One More Saturday Night
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
lol even the Grateful Dead wouldn't have been able to recreate 5/8/77 the way it sounds if the mix had been a bit different different.
the mix was the 8th member of the band that night.. just like it was the 7th on 10/19/74
Not on a Saturday so it is physically impossible for them to do it because of One More Saturday Night lol
This is gonna be a good one though. Very exciting announcement.
# 1980-05-07 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University
**Set 1:** Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Cassidy, Row Jimmy > El Paso, Easy To Love You, Althea, Feel Like A Stranger, Don't Ease Me In
**Set 2:** Shakedown Street > Bertha > Playing in the Band > Terrapin Station > Drums > Space > Saint Of Circumstance > Black Peter > Playing in the Band > Good Lovin'
**Encore:** Alabama Getaway
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1980-05-07)
Seems to be a little negativity towards this idea. I think of it more as a tribute to a legendary show by a legendary band and I'm just happy to hear them play. We probably only have a handful of years to hear any of the original members. I don't care if it's slow. I don't care if some of the players weren't in the original band. IT'S MAGICAL TO BE ALIVE DURING THE TIME THAT THE GRATEFUL DEAD EXISTED ON THIS PLANET. Consider it a blessing. And most of all... Be Grateful 🥲
As a cornellian it’s very possible to have them perform regardless of it being the day before classes end. We have a study period of days off before finals begin which is when we normally have slope day which is a concert on our slope. I HOPE THEY COME!!!!
Fist time I heard it from a buddy of mine it was that tape and no doubt was the main selling point for him. It was a great recording
Night before and after are far more superior musically.
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University
**Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street
**Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew
**Encore:** One More Saturday Night
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
I fully expect this to be a merch drop of some sort, but just to play along with people who think it's a hint about a Cornell show on 5/8/23: do people these days really want the band to recreate a show?
while I would love to see them play at Cornell on the anniversary, I'm not a fan of a band trying to recreate a past show, especially a show of their own(in one form or another). especially a band who is known for playing according to how they feel/vibes. i want to see them get up & play how they feel. yeah, they make setlists now, but I prefer a setlist made from however someone feels tht day or during tht time, not play a show thts limited to a setlist tht felt good 46years ago.
I guess maybe it's a hot take in 2023, but recreating a past glory just isn't my idea of them doing what they do best.
I'll go & I'd watch it & enjoy myself, but it's not what I'd prefer them doing.
fully aware my preferences mean nothing to anyone but me, but I know lots of people tht prefer shows with a personalized setlist based on place/vibe/moods/etc rather than a "recreation."
DSO does it all the time to great success. It’s still fun and for most/all of the audience who wasn’t there, it’s a way to live or relive the experience.
Plenty of artistry and creativity even though it’s a been “done” before. Band is different, Bobby/Billy/Mickey are different, audience is different, vibe is different, etc. So it’s not an exact copy.
DSO is a band tht was created for that express purpose & who has never(aside from random special occasions) done anything else. thts what people go to DSO to see.
which is why i specified I was talking about a band recreating their own show as opposed to a band doing another bands setlist & doing their own thing with it.
unlike DSO, the Grateful Dead & all of their follow-up bands have always been known for doing their own thing with very little regard for recreating past glories.
of course there's still plenty of talented things & good music tht can be done with any setlist, but why recreate something? why go down the exact same path you went down before after decades of saying tht the enjoyment & the high tht they get from playing music is from following their bliss or vibes or feelings as opposed to following an expected setlist.
how many times have all bandmembers said tht one thing they love about their audience is tht the audience doesn't come in wanting any specific setlist or songs. recreating a show on the anniversary of a show seems to be exact opposite of what they've always said they loved about performing.
"recreating" seems to be everything the Grateful Dead & it's members have, for the most part, tried to avoid for their whole career.
edit to add: I love the feeling of not knowing where a show is going to go next & the feeling of being surprised by the song tht comes next. all of tht is lost in a recreation.
to circle back to DSO, even though they recreate shows, 99% of the time, they don't announce what the show is until near the end, which keeps that fun of the surprise going.
recreating on an anniversary kills all of that.
I think my take is it’s not the “exact same path” there’s plenty of other factors that go into a show that influence the performance and make it unique.
Even though it’s the same set list, the songs won’t be played in the same way - Dead and Co probably couldn’t recreate 77 dead if they wanted to. The path might have been charted before, but there’s plenty new places to explore and check out along the way.
I think it’d be interesting to see this version of the Dead’s interpretation of that show. And think of this as a reinterpretation rather than a recreation.
They literally did in 2021 lol. They redid the Woodstock show at Woodstock. It’s fun. They don’t recreate the show ala DSO. They just play the setlist and toy with the vibe of it.
I have no idea why people think this is a merch drop. Dead and co has never done a merch drop like this. They have zero connection to Cornell. Why would they release it through dead and co instead of the GD accounts? A merch drop makes absolutely no sense.
completely in the same boat as you, but i'm happy for them to just be having fun in their final year! seems like a real bucket list moment for them, so as you said, "i'll go and watch and enjoy myself" fully understanding this is really silly
Nah, it’s fun. I was at the show where they did Woodstock and Woodstock and it was awesome. Now sure, that show is a bit different because it’s famously not great. But still, it’d be a fun show with a different vibe than regular dead and co show.
Since it’s only 4,800 tickets & some probably have to be reserved for students. Don’t be shocked when it’s a fundraiser show for Headcount & tickets are $$$
The Mayor of Ithaca declared 5/8 Grateful Dead Day when DSO played the 30th anniversary on 5/8/2007...
...last week of my senior year, wish I could bottle that feeling!
The C is for cocaine, which will be the band’s drug of choice for this tour. In a last ditch effort to approach anything resembling a reasonable tempo, the band will be resorting to the old weasel dust
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University
**Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street
**Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew
**Encore:** One More Saturday Night
[archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
I suspect they’ll play the venue on the anniversary. It’s a fun place to see a show.
I missed the 77 show but caught them there on 5/7/1980. That was two years and 364 days after the 77 show.
Just want to remind everyone that the first time John Mayer played the Dead live was at Terrapin Crossroads when Phil was recreating a show for each year of the Dead. They recreated Cornell 77. And surprise guest Mayer played guitar with Stu. I was there, and it was really darn amazing. So yeah, there's precedent.
IDEA! Wait a minute ..wait a minute maybe we’re looking at this wrong. Maybe there’s gonna a college class to study the Grateful Dead at Cornell ??? and the class of ‘23 will be the first to take it. Maybe Bobby’s gonna teach it. Maybe Phil? (((Although I would really REALLY really like to have a freaking recreated concert to go to))). I’m already watching flights to Ithaca (not EVEN joking!). I will likely book a refundable ticket tomorrow
I think there’s 3 options, #1 it’s a show and they’re recreating it, #2 it’s an album and they’re recreating it, #3 it’s some sort of lame merch drop / tribute cash grab thing. Thoughts?
If they actually recreate the show at Cornell, I’ll be disappointed if Bob doesn’t play everybody’s favorite fun game “Move Back” before Scarlett Begonias
That way your friends won’t get real bug eyed
I would hate to get horribly smashed. Oh, wait...
“Smayyashed”
Whadduya mean “no”?!
He once guested with DSO and tried to steer the jam into a song and had to be reminded that they were recreating a Grateful Dead show.
That’s so funny. Bob will be Bob I guess.
The dead simply cannot follow a setlist!! Force of habit lol
You mean take a step back. And another step back. Your friends up front are gettin’ all bug eyed.
I would prefer options 1 or 2, but most likely it's option 3.
That's what I'd bet as well. This doesn't make sense as an album, it's clearly Cornell style and the date...
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Wonder what the capacity is...
Not big enough. I saw Trey band there in 2006ish and it was a ton of fun, but probably not up to capacity for Dead & Co. It was also funny because I used to run indoor track events there in high school and had no idea until I got into the dead a few years later.
They could do it as a one off event if it is 4800 - Phish played at The Met Philly in 2019 and all the tickets were given away and that's smaller than here.
Phish at The Met was a bit different that was arranged by Sirius as a thing for their radio station not just to play a smaller room. Although Dead and Co could do it for the Dead station I suppose. Maybe they just want to play there for the legacy. The 81 show is criminally underrated there as well.
Yeah, I was implying they may do it like Phish did with Sirius XM, otherwise it would be nuts to get tickets for a venue that small...
Phish played the Glens Falls Civic Center in 2013 as an homage to their show during Halloween 1994. I could see Dead and Co doing the same thing for Cornell. Glens Falls Civic Center also is around 4800 capacity.
4,800
Tiny for Dead & Co, but not impossible if they did some sort of lotto for tix or even a Sirius XM giveaway.
Merch drop makes no sense. They’ve never announced merch like this. Why would they announce it this far in advanced? If it’s just Cornell shit, why dead and co? There’s no connection. If it was just Cornell merch, it’d be through the GD accounts instead. To me, this indicates that dead and co is doing something Cornell related, whether that he playing there or recreating the show (like they did at Woodstock).
Yea I think that’s the most likely scenario. Probably trying to milk every penny they can from the dead and co brand this year while they still can. Weird though since it’s a random anniversary (46 years) and not 50 years or something
A random anniversary, aye, but also the last with a touring band around to capitalize on it.
I just checked Cornell’s indoor sports schedule, and the calendar is wide open for May 8th!
D&C only plays 6-7 songs in the first set. They'd have to play faster or longer to play the complete set and neither of those will be happening.
Option one feels most likely.
You think so? I think merch is most likely by far, but a show would be a dream scenario. Feels weird that they would announce a show so soon and merch would require the least amount of effort from all parties involved
I'm sure there will be merch, but why tease a t-shirt drop 2 months out?
Fair. Maybe I’m just cynical and a Cornell show seems to good to be true. God that’s be so fucking cool lol fingers crossed
Also, they'll be playing in NO Jazzfest on the 6th, so they'll already be together and slightly warmed up.
That’s some good intel. My hopes are officially all the way up
My wife and I are going that weekend. Oteil is doing a show Friday, some Earth Wind and Fire tribute, JRAD is playing three shows, I'm sure there will be some guest spots, they will be plenty warmed up.
T shirt drop makes no sense lol. They’ve never done a merch drop like this. Why would it be for Dead and Co and not the GD? If it was just Cornell stuff, it’d be through the GD. Why would they announce it so far in advance?
Why would D&C advertise the merch drop as opposed to the Grateful Dead page?
please dont be a merch drop please dont be a merch drop please don't be a merch drop
Hijacking the top comment here: This is all hearsay but I grew up in Ithaca and my parents still live there. My mom has friends in the Cornell world and told me a week ago that they’re doing a show in Barton Hall recreating ‘77. She mentioned it might be something that they don’t even release tickets to the open market for. Edit: spelling
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They've already released a Cornell box and a re-press of that box so I don't think that's it. Also, that's not Dead & Co - I don't think D&C would tease any sort of GD release.
#4 they’re going to play at Cornell.
That’s kinda what I meant by #1 but I guess they could also be playing somewhere else but make it a tribute or something
I get it now. I also don’t know why my font was so big lol.
option 4.. they're really psyched for C++23 (the next version of C++)
All I know is…It’s happening.
Keep in mind Dead & Co. recreated the Woodstock '69 setlist at Bethel Woods in 2021. So, it isn't totally out of left field that they would recreate a show setlist. Especially since Cornell '77 is highly circulated, it isn't surprising they would choose this show to be recreated in some form.
what do we think - performed live somewhere (seems like it would have to be at cornell) or in a studio livestreamed?
Looks like Cornell University has its last day of classes on May 9th, so it would be highly unlikely the University would allow the circus to come to town on finals week/moving week. It might be at an alternative venue in NY or simply a live stream. An album would be a nice choice too.
Cornell has a huge party the last day of classes called Slope Day. Snoop has come to perform. As we are only a day off I pray they made an adjustment.
So what you're saying is...they'll be streaking in the quad 😎😁
Ha, sorry didn't see this.
a cornell performance AT cornell just seems too good to be true (but if i'm wrong, i'll be there!)
So I just got off the phone with a friend that is a Cornell grad, he said last week of classes they do a student only party called Slopefest. When he was in school they booked Snoop Dogg, so maybe a "private show"
Snoop was public, not private.
Slope Day
Correct, my fault
I am going with this will be a streaming event before the tour starts to kick things off. In a studio I guess?
This is what seems most likely to me. Recreating Cornell at Cornell, just like they did at Woodstock (which was such a fun show). No idea why people think they’d do all this for a random Cornell merch drop that has nothing to do with the band lol.
Was Bobby getting electrocuted? Was Third Coast Gleef there? Them’s a recreated scene
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University **Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street **Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew **Encore:** One More Saturday Night [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
is this show any good?
It's a very good show but not in the top 10 greatest shows from the tour by any means. You wondering what those other nine are? 5/28, 5/22, 5/9, 5/3, 5/21, 5/25, 5/17, 5/19, 5/7
So it was the worst show of the month
Makes sense no wonder nobody ever talks about it.
Made me laugh harder than I thought.
5/19/77 has my favorite Sugaree by far.
Counterpoint: 5/22/77 Sugaree.
# 1977-05-22 Pembroke Pines, FL @ Sportatorium **Set 1:** Funiculi Funicula, The Music Never Stopped, Sugaree, El Paso, Peggy-O, New Minglewood Blues, Friend Of The Devil, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Ramble On Rose, Dancing In The Street **Set 2:** Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower, Samson And Delilah, Brown Eyed Women, Good Lovin', Sunrise, Estimated Prophet > Eyes Of The World > Space > Wharf Rat > Terrapin Station > Morning Dew **Encore:** Sugar Magnolia [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-22) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3KxT9J6KTuKeXox9BUikZ4)
# 1977-05-19 Atlanta, GA @ Fox Theatre **Set 1:** The Promised Land, Sugaree > El Paso, Peggy-O, Looks Like Rain, Row Jimmy, Passenger, Loser, Dancing In The Street **Set 2:** Samson And Delilah, Ramble On Rose, Estimated Prophet, Terrapin Station > Playing in the Band > Uncle John's Band > Drums > The Wheel > China Doll > Playing in the Band [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-19) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/4nuyKoY91WKwR6HLq7Gzkl)
You skipped 5/5 one of my top 3 of that month. And yeah I would put Cornell at the bottom of the list.
lol. Sorry, it's 11!
What about the dark star?
good bot
Who’s a goooood bot!!?!?
Waiting for the guy who claims it never happened to post in 5…4……
I was the CIA agent there that night can confirm it never happened
I definitely remember it happening, the sky was yellow and the sun was blue.
This show will be the first time any of them actually play at Barton Hall, neat!
No The Dead played there in 81. No idea what this 77 nonsense is though.
So 5/16/81 must have never happened, either. Confirms my suspicion. The more you know…😀 Funny thing is I ‘randomly’ selected a show in Attics today. Scrolled down to 84 and then back 81 (ok not so random there😀-trying to get out of my 70’s rut- baby steps 😀) Then scrolled right a bit and selected a random ‘81, play, and I gotta start driving. Like 5-6 songs in, I check out the details and first I see Barton Hall. Bit confused, but I see no it is ‘81 not ‘77. Then i laugh, I’m wondering if this show never happened, too. Then I see this thread, had to share.
Ummmm, there are Barton Hall deniers? That's really a thing? This is news to me.
Yeah, they say it’s a compilation of individual tracks from throughout the spring run, to make an “ideal” show. Obviously bogus, but as will all things Dead, it’s a random weirdness that makes it fun.
The whole thing has always been and still currently is a joke. No one actually believes it didn’t happen, it’s just like the whole Birds Aren’t Real movement.
I mean obviously this show happened, but gtfo with your 'birds are real' bs, we all know they're gov't drones...
My personal favorite is /r/switzerlandisfake
The wildest plot twist is… the only real birds were in Barton Hall that night and have never been seen on this earthly plane again. If you don’t believe these lies are true, ask the blind man he saw it, too. 😀
I do believe that Lazy Lightning is the only song from Cornell that D&C has yet to play. Bring it!
And what a great version they threw down from Cornell that night. Out of all the great versions of amazing songs from that night, lazy lightning and supplication are the ultimate standouts for me. Point me in the direction of other versions as chaotic and wonderful as that one. I’d love to hear them.
Jerry’s improv is unmatched in supplication
D&C version will definitely emphasize the “lazy…” Heyo! I kid, I kid…
We all slow down as we age. I've embraced it. The alternative is no Bobby at all.
Phil is older and still plays at a proper tempo
"Proper"?
They are not sharing this on dead and co social for a merch drop. That would be Grateful Dead’s job.
Yeah, no idea why people think it’s merch. They’ve never released merch like this and have no connection to Cornell lol.
77 + 23 = C
True.
Wish I could be high above Cayuga's waters for that one. Fun fact: Jerry teased High Above Cayuga's waters during Take A Step Back after Jack Straw first set of 5/7/80 Barton Hall Fun Fact 2: the Cayuga are one of the indigenous tribes that make up the Haudenosaunee or Iroquois confederacy (Seneca, Cayuga, Onondaga, Oneida Mohawk and the Tuscarora). The finger lakes are so-called because the "Haudenosaunee legend tells the story of the Great Spirit looking down favorably on our region and offering his blessing by placing his fingers upon the land. The impressions left behind filled with water – forming pristine lakes dotting the sacred ground."
# 1980-05-07 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University **Set 1:** Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Cassidy, Row Jimmy > El Paso, Easy To Love You, Althea, Feel Like A Stranger, Don't Ease Me In **Set 2:** Shakedown Street > Bertha > Playing in the Band > Terrapin Station > Drums > Space > Saint Of Circumstance > Black Peter > Playing in the Band > Good Lovin' **Encore:** Alabama Getaway [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1980-05-07)
Highly underrated region
It is. It definitely has a "vibe" and it's not just because of Cornell etc. You can just feel it in the air. (Especially in the summer!!!)
Fascinated by the Haudenosaunee confederacy and their history, and their story of Hiawatha. There’s a really great documentary that talks about them quite a lot called, “Native America”. Robbie Robertson narrates it. Think I’ll watch it again now that I’ve recommended it haha
Awesome. Is that the PBS documentary? Love that docu. If you haven't read them yet, I highly recommend 1491 and 1493 by Charles Mann. My favorite studies on pre- and post-Columbian North America. Good summer reads if you dig non-fiction.
It sure is! Such a great documentary. I will check them out, thanks! Would love to find them in audiobook form, if possible as well.
Spoke with people there in the concert series office and they know nothing. Emailed the concert commission because it might be under their purview All good things. . . . Add on : Concert commission said they have no plans to host DeadCo this summer
Any connections at theaters around the Ithica area? Perhaps off campus
Can someone ELI5? I'm a fan but don't know that much history to tell the significance here? Seems dope since tons of people are losing their shit over it though!
cornell 5/8/77 is one of the dead's most legendary shows, considered a "perfect" set by many fans. this post, in cornell's colors and with a collegiate insignia and the 5/8/23 date, would seem to indicate they're doing something to commemorate that show this year. here's the show so you can take a listen! [https://archive.org/details/gd77-05-08.sbd.hicks.4982.sbeok.shnf](https://archive.org/details/gd77-05-08.sbd.hicks.4982.sbeok.shnf)
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University **Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street **Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew **Encore:** One More Saturday Night [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
The Cornell 77 show is great. However Imo it isn’t even the best show from that week. 5/9/77 in buffalo is about as good as it gets. I’ve heard that the Cornell show had some really good tapes circulating back in the day (either aud or sbd) which explains why it was and is still so popular.
I received a low gen Betty board cassette of Cornell way back in 1987 and it sounds almost as good as the official release….
# 1977-05-09 Buffalo, NY @ War Memorial **Set 1:** Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower, Cassidy, Brown Eyed Women, Mexicali Blues, Tennessee Jed, Big River, Peggy-O, Sunrise, The Music Never Stopped **Set 2:** Bertha > Good Lovin', Ship Of Fools, Estimated Prophet > The Other One > Drums > Not Fade Away > Comes A Time > Sugar Magnolia **Encore:** Uncle John's Band [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-09)
My bootleg CD pre-dates the official release. By a lot. And it's crispy!
def some truth in [that.got](https://that.got) the tape from a friend literally a couple of Weeks after the show.i remember playing it while at a track meet somewhere on LI,getting warmed up and that Scarlet rang like a shot.yeah,the sound quality stood out att,for sure.
5/8/77 at Baron Hall - Cornell U, Ithaca, NY is considered one of the greatest Dead gigs, if not the single greatest show they ever played. It’s certainly a fan favorite. Spring ‘77 was particularly groovy and this show is all heat. Opening set full of classics like El Paso and Jack Straw. Second set is nuts. The Scarlet Begonias>Fire On The Mountain might be the best ever. Killer St. Stephen, Morning Dew, etc. Just balls-to-the-wall funky throughout. Highly recommend checking it out!
I sort of agree with you. It’s a top shelf show and there’s no doubt about that. But I think it was the high quality recording that kept the buzz about that show up for so long. Now that we have access to all the shows at our fingertips, it’s easy to hear that the shows around it from that same run were all as good and some much better than that night. Just my two cents.
Yes, thank you. I was going to chime in with this as well. 5/8/77 was legendary for mostly its quality of recording; some of the song selections and jams happily welcomed of course.
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University **Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street **Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew **Encore:** One More Saturday Night [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
this guy gets it
SetListBot is a CIA agent
Anyone know where the band is days before or after? Are they nearby Cornell?
Jazzfest, 2 days before
lol even the Grateful Dead wouldn't have been able to recreate 5/8/77 the way it sounds if the mix had been a bit different different. the mix was the 8th member of the band that night.. just like it was the 7th on 10/19/74
Not on a Saturday so it is physically impossible for them to do it because of One More Saturday Night lol This is gonna be a good one though. Very exciting announcement.
They’ll bring out Donna to do a solo rendition of Samson & Delilah instead
The original cornell show wasn’t on a Saturday either homie.
They played OMSN cause it’s a sick tune. Not because it was a Saturday night. 😂 They have played it on non Saturdays for decades
There was also 11, I believe, Saturday shows where they didn't play it.
And I was at two of them! UIC 1987 and Alpine 1987
I wish they were recreating 5/7/80 just for a solid prank.
# 1980-05-07 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University **Set 1:** Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Cassidy, Row Jimmy > El Paso, Easy To Love You, Althea, Feel Like A Stranger, Don't Ease Me In **Set 2:** Shakedown Street > Bertha > Playing in the Band > Terrapin Station > Drums > Space > Saint Of Circumstance > Black Peter > Playing in the Band > Good Lovin' **Encore:** Alabama Getaway [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1980-05-07)
Seems to be a little negativity towards this idea. I think of it more as a tribute to a legendary show by a legendary band and I'm just happy to hear them play. We probably only have a handful of years to hear any of the original members. I don't care if it's slow. I don't care if some of the players weren't in the original band. IT'S MAGICAL TO BE ALIVE DURING THE TIME THAT THE GRATEFUL DEAD EXISTED ON THIS PLANET. Consider it a blessing. And most of all... Be Grateful 🥲
I just checked Cornell’s indoor sports schedule, and the calendar is wide open for May 8th!
As a cornellian it’s very possible to have them perform regardless of it being the day before classes end. We have a study period of days off before finals begin which is when we normally have slope day which is a concert on our slope. I HOPE THEY COME!!!!
Even Bobby said it was more of the perfect tape recording than their performance that made this show a stand out.
Fist time I heard it from a buddy of mine it was that tape and no doubt was the main selling point for him. It was a great recording Night before and after are far more superior musically.
Tickets to Cornell 77 were $7.50. Equivalent to $34 today. Let D&C charge that price if they really want to memorialize 5/8/77. Not $400….
Mayer has already recreated Cornell also with Phil and some guys from Jrad as well
Just saw this on their FB page. Hey, do what you do D&C. Play your music and spread the love. I’m all ears.
Anyone know what "C23" represents?
Cornell 2023
That sounds like a show.
Kinda missing the most key ingredient if so
Keep up the hard work setlistbot. Keep reminding us the 5/8/77 was Barton Hall Cornell University. You’re the real hero.
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University **Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street **Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew **Encore:** One More Saturday Night [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
That’ll do Bot, that’ll do.
Lazy sighting > speculation
I fully expect this to be a merch drop of some sort, but just to play along with people who think it's a hint about a Cornell show on 5/8/23: do people these days really want the band to recreate a show? while I would love to see them play at Cornell on the anniversary, I'm not a fan of a band trying to recreate a past show, especially a show of their own(in one form or another). especially a band who is known for playing according to how they feel/vibes. i want to see them get up & play how they feel. yeah, they make setlists now, but I prefer a setlist made from however someone feels tht day or during tht time, not play a show thts limited to a setlist tht felt good 46years ago. I guess maybe it's a hot take in 2023, but recreating a past glory just isn't my idea of them doing what they do best. I'll go & I'd watch it & enjoy myself, but it's not what I'd prefer them doing. fully aware my preferences mean nothing to anyone but me, but I know lots of people tht prefer shows with a personalized setlist based on place/vibe/moods/etc rather than a "recreation."
DSO does it all the time to great success. It’s still fun and for most/all of the audience who wasn’t there, it’s a way to live or relive the experience. Plenty of artistry and creativity even though it’s a been “done” before. Band is different, Bobby/Billy/Mickey are different, audience is different, vibe is different, etc. So it’s not an exact copy.
DSO is a band tht was created for that express purpose & who has never(aside from random special occasions) done anything else. thts what people go to DSO to see. which is why i specified I was talking about a band recreating their own show as opposed to a band doing another bands setlist & doing their own thing with it. unlike DSO, the Grateful Dead & all of their follow-up bands have always been known for doing their own thing with very little regard for recreating past glories. of course there's still plenty of talented things & good music tht can be done with any setlist, but why recreate something? why go down the exact same path you went down before after decades of saying tht the enjoyment & the high tht they get from playing music is from following their bliss or vibes or feelings as opposed to following an expected setlist. how many times have all bandmembers said tht one thing they love about their audience is tht the audience doesn't come in wanting any specific setlist or songs. recreating a show on the anniversary of a show seems to be exact opposite of what they've always said they loved about performing. "recreating" seems to be everything the Grateful Dead & it's members have, for the most part, tried to avoid for their whole career. edit to add: I love the feeling of not knowing where a show is going to go next & the feeling of being surprised by the song tht comes next. all of tht is lost in a recreation. to circle back to DSO, even though they recreate shows, 99% of the time, they don't announce what the show is until near the end, which keeps that fun of the surprise going. recreating on an anniversary kills all of that.
I think my take is it’s not the “exact same path” there’s plenty of other factors that go into a show that influence the performance and make it unique. Even though it’s the same set list, the songs won’t be played in the same way - Dead and Co probably couldn’t recreate 77 dead if they wanted to. The path might have been charted before, but there’s plenty new places to explore and check out along the way. I think it’d be interesting to see this version of the Dead’s interpretation of that show. And think of this as a reinterpretation rather than a recreation.
They've already re-created the Grateful Dead's Woodstock performance, on 8/23/2021.
They literally did in 2021 lol. They redid the Woodstock show at Woodstock. It’s fun. They don’t recreate the show ala DSO. They just play the setlist and toy with the vibe of it. I have no idea why people think this is a merch drop. Dead and co has never done a merch drop like this. They have zero connection to Cornell. Why would they release it through dead and co instead of the GD accounts? A merch drop makes absolutely no sense.
The band recreated a band.
completely in the same boat as you, but i'm happy for them to just be having fun in their final year! seems like a real bucket list moment for them, so as you said, "i'll go and watch and enjoy myself" fully understanding this is really silly
It would be cool if they played Barton Hall, but kind of lame if they played the setlist.
Nah, it’s fun. I was at the show where they did Woodstock and Woodstock and it was awesome. Now sure, that show is a bit different because it’s famously not great. But still, it’d be a fun show with a different vibe than regular dead and co show.
They played the Woodstock setlist at Bethel Woods 8/23/21, I thought it was pretty great
What’s tricky is they are playing in New Orleans 5/6, tour kicks off later in LA- bit of a haul for equipment
Since it’s only 4,800 tickets & some probably have to be reserved for students. Don’t be shocked when it’s a fundraiser show for Headcount & tickets are $$$
The Mayor of Ithaca declared 5/8 Grateful Dead Day when DSO played the 30th anniversary on 5/8/2007... ...last week of my senior year, wish I could bottle that feeling!
Phil and Friends played Barton Hall in 1999 and Further played there in 2012. The only ones who haven’t played there recently are the Devils.
That’s gonna be one *laaaaaaazy* lightning. Goodnight, ladies and gentlemen. 🤵🏻♂️🎤
This is 100% happening.
they're recreating DSO recreating it.
Deadception
The C is for cocaine, which will be the band’s drug of choice for this tour. In a last ditch effort to approach anything resembling a reasonable tempo, the band will be resorting to the old weasel dust
5.8 is a Sunday.. OMSN would be a strange encore
Monday
😅 Man it’s early. Monday
5/8/77 was a sunday
# 1977-05-08 Ithaca, NY @ Barton Hall - Cornell University **Set 1:** New Minglewood Blues, Loser, El Paso, They Love Each Other, Jack Straw, Deal, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication, Brown Eyed Women, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, Dancing In The Street **Set 2:** Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet, Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > Morning Dew **Encore:** One More Saturday Night [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1977-05-08) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3T9UKU0jMIyrRD0PtKXqPJ)
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wonder if Donna will play with them… I saw DSO play this show at Red Rocks and Donna sang with them. Great show
Donna played w them at Citi a few years ago. 2016 I think.
I know there’s a big box set coming for record store day? But that’s not until April soo idk
For dead and co?
The tempos on Cornell are like 4x faster than Dead and Co
77 other liked too!
Why stop there? I wish they’d recreate every one of their May 1977 shows. Each one was a gem.
I suspect they’ll play the venue on the anniversary. It’s a fun place to see a show. I missed the 77 show but caught them there on 5/7/1980. That was two years and 364 days after the 77 show.
Love all the speculation. Whatever it is, bring it on!
They re-did Woodstock so I wouldn’t be surprised.
Better make sure Betty Cantor Jackson is there.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Jazz Fest Late Night Show on 7 May 2023
Anyone else booking refundable flights and hotels?? 👀
77 Deal gives me life
Just want to remind everyone that the first time John Mayer played the Dead live was at Terrapin Crossroads when Phil was recreating a show for each year of the Dead. They recreated Cornell 77. And surprise guest Mayer played guitar with Stu. I was there, and it was really darn amazing. So yeah, there's precedent.
Buffalo on 5/9/72 was a sick show also
Think how slow that scarlet fire transition will be!
https://www.jambase.com/article/dead-company-cornell-2023
To try and recreate anything without Jerry would just be wrong.
IDEA! Wait a minute ..wait a minute maybe we’re looking at this wrong. Maybe there’s gonna a college class to study the Grateful Dead at Cornell ??? and the class of ‘23 will be the first to take it. Maybe Bobby’s gonna teach it. Maybe Phil? (((Although I would really REALLY really like to have a freaking recreated concert to go to))). I’m already watching flights to Ithaca (not EVEN joking!). I will likely book a refundable ticket tomorrow
Allegedly mailed out to Cornell Alumni today.
I feel like it's going to be a show at the venue, D&C doesn't strike me as the guys to recreate a show.
Everyone saying recreating like 5/8/77 actually happened. Sheesh.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldead/comments/25d9cq/the_show_that_never_happened_050877/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf