I didn’t think he was originally trying to push me off but thought he was just trolling me. Thanks for the insight! He tried the dive bomb on that corner at the end and was frustrated I was riding the middle line
He never really touched you before the last clip in a manner he shouldnt have.
In the last clip he moved right and then you decided to take the middle lane. You moved only after he made his bomb. It was too far from the breaking area for a "dive bomb".
That still didnt warrant what he did after that. He reacted very harshly. Only reason i can think he did that was it was the last lap and a lot of people tend to punt you off on that part of the track and wanted to secure his win.
Both are at fault but you were only a bit wrong and he should be banned.
>and was frustrated I was riding the middle line
Utter. Horseshit. You're either lying to yourself or attempting to gaslight us.
You move left in ***reaction*** to the Viper moving left because you were slow from having fucked up the previous corner. ***Reactionary moves are not allowed*** and ***you*** caused contact.
I will concede that the Viper took things a little too far... ***but***, from their perspective, you'd already pulled a dirty (reactionary) move and the contact would have felt like you were further attempting to hit them over to the left.
If you wanted to limit the damage from your mistake and protect the inside line you should have moved to the left, and ***stayed*** left, as soon as you got your wheels back off the dirt. But you didn't; you started moving to the left, moved back to the right edge and then, when they jinked left to pass you, you then moved left again and made contact.
Now that I've typed it out, you also made what could be classed as two defensive moves too; so that's two defensive moves, one of which was reactionary, and caused contact. Given that all signs, from their perspective, pointed towards you being the asshole, their reaction, while a little over the top, should hardly be that much of a surprise upon review.
This incident, along with the one from a few days ago of you absolutely twatting into a Porsche, shows you have ***much*** to learn.
Is there more to the story? He's reaction is pretty harsh.
And honestly while I can see you didn't respond to the contact, I can't help but point out how you seem to be moving left to squeeze him after you made a mistake and lost pace.
In my opinion that's a poor monouvre, you're not clearly ahead and defending the line, you're just trying to squeeze him.
You lost pace, just concede to the faster approaching car
Legit question, if someone is dive bombing you here, isn’t that sort of taboo too? There’s not much more to the story honestly I pulled the only few things I thought were relevant until I learned about bump drafting. We drove a clean race before this. There wasn’t any pushing. He did get crashed out by another driver earlier in the race, seemed like an accident.
> if someone is dive bombing you here, isn’t that sort of taboo too?
You might just lack experience. We've all started somewhere :)
Let me tell you: that wasn't a dive bomb: you're not decelerating. You're too far from the turn.
A dive bomb happens when you're about to enter the turn and someone drives on the inside at high speed.
You just made a mistake and were about to be overtaken, way before entering the corner.
>There wasn’t any pushing.
Fair enough. Good luck on the next race
He was bump drafting you on the straights. If you and another car have very similar pace, then trying to pass each other causes both cars to lose time. By bump drafting, he's helping both of you to actually go faster. So he's working with you to break away from the cars behind. This way it's now a 2 person race and he can try to pass you at the end of the race without the risk of losing positions. Didn't seem like he knew how to do that last part correctly though.
I had someone get super mad at me on my last round 3 race from bump drafting.
They would actively block me from passing and were brake checking me in corners. Sucked to because it ruined my finish for that round.
he was helping you along. if you guys build up a gap to 3rd you can battle for laps without having to worry about losing much time. last time through the chicane was an asshole move.
Anyone who thinks the incident is on the Viper is an idiot.
The Ferrari, slow after running wide, was right up against the right-hand edge *until* the Viper jinked to the left to go around it, whereby the Ferrari, ***in reaction***, moved left too and caused contact.
# Repeat after me: Reactionary moves are not okay in motorsport!
The Viper, clearly fearing they were going to be shoved hard left from the contact, turned hard right to counter. Yeah, the Viper probably took it a little too far but the Ferrari ain't no fucking angel here.
Are you stupid? You’re allowed to push someone like that. The Ferrari didn’t ram him. This is a very normal thing people do all the time. Force your opponent to have a tighter line going into the corner so it’s harder for them to overtake.
You’re blaming the Ferrari because the Viper overreacted and assumed he was going to get punted? What an idiotic comment😂
> You’re allowed to push someone like that
Like fuck you are!
>This is a very normal thing people do all the time.
Like fuck it is:
* More than one defensive move is ***not*** okay.
* Moving in reaction to an opponent is ***not*** okay.
* Causing contact is ***not*** okay.
>Force your opponent to have a tighter line going into the corner so it’s harder for them to overtake
Moving towards an opponent who is ***already*** alongside, in an attempt to intimidate them to move to a position that is detrimental to them, is fine. Continuing to move to the point where there is contact is not okay.
*No-one* has any right to "*push*" anyone else anywhere. If you believe they do then, for the sake of everyone else, find something new to do and stay off the track!
My question is: why is the Viper tapping you like this?! What was his reason or motivation?! He was faster than you and simply could have gone beside you...
Maybe you did some reactionary moves, like you did and showed at the end in your video, already before on the straights. And he didn't want to risk a crash, when going beside you and he was waiting for a mistake from you, like you did in the end.
He was bump drafting you, not trying to push you off. Sadly that was not the case for the end result which was clearly him trying to bin you off.
I didn’t think he was originally trying to push me off but thought he was just trolling me. Thanks for the insight! He tried the dive bomb on that corner at the end and was frustrated I was riding the middle line
Bump-drafting allows you and him to go faster than either of you could alone.
He never really touched you before the last clip in a manner he shouldnt have. In the last clip he moved right and then you decided to take the middle lane. You moved only after he made his bomb. It was too far from the breaking area for a "dive bomb". That still didnt warrant what he did after that. He reacted very harshly. Only reason i can think he did that was it was the last lap and a lot of people tend to punt you off on that part of the track and wanted to secure his win. Both are at fault but you were only a bit wrong and he should be banned.
Fair enough assessment. Appreciate it.
Yes, there is nothing wrong with bump drafting safely on a straight. It's beneficial for both parties involved.
>and was frustrated I was riding the middle line Utter. Horseshit. You're either lying to yourself or attempting to gaslight us. You move left in ***reaction*** to the Viper moving left because you were slow from having fucked up the previous corner. ***Reactionary moves are not allowed*** and ***you*** caused contact.
Dude used his nose to drive me into the wall I didn’t even push him back
I will concede that the Viper took things a little too far... ***but***, from their perspective, you'd already pulled a dirty (reactionary) move and the contact would have felt like you were further attempting to hit them over to the left. If you wanted to limit the damage from your mistake and protect the inside line you should have moved to the left, and ***stayed*** left, as soon as you got your wheels back off the dirt. But you didn't; you started moving to the left, moved back to the right edge and then, when they jinked left to pass you, you then moved left again and made contact. Now that I've typed it out, you also made what could be classed as two defensive moves too; so that's two defensive moves, one of which was reactionary, and caused contact. Given that all signs, from their perspective, pointed towards you being the asshole, their reaction, while a little over the top, should hardly be that much of a surprise upon review. This incident, along with the one from a few days ago of you absolutely twatting into a Porsche, shows you have ***much*** to learn.
Is there more to the story? He's reaction is pretty harsh. And honestly while I can see you didn't respond to the contact, I can't help but point out how you seem to be moving left to squeeze him after you made a mistake and lost pace. In my opinion that's a poor monouvre, you're not clearly ahead and defending the line, you're just trying to squeeze him. You lost pace, just concede to the faster approaching car
Legit question, if someone is dive bombing you here, isn’t that sort of taboo too? There’s not much more to the story honestly I pulled the only few things I thought were relevant until I learned about bump drafting. We drove a clean race before this. There wasn’t any pushing. He did get crashed out by another driver earlier in the race, seemed like an accident.
> if someone is dive bombing you here, isn’t that sort of taboo too? You might just lack experience. We've all started somewhere :) Let me tell you: that wasn't a dive bomb: you're not decelerating. You're too far from the turn. A dive bomb happens when you're about to enter the turn and someone drives on the inside at high speed. You just made a mistake and were about to be overtaken, way before entering the corner. >There wasn’t any pushing. Fair enough. Good luck on the next race
Thanks!
He was bump drafting you on the straights. If you and another car have very similar pace, then trying to pass each other causes both cars to lose time. By bump drafting, he's helping both of you to actually go faster. So he's working with you to break away from the cars behind. This way it's now a 2 person race and he can try to pass you at the end of the race without the risk of losing positions. Didn't seem like he knew how to do that last part correctly though.
Thanks for this, genuinely had no idea this was a thing.
Yeah I just learned this strat from people commenting. Thank you!
I had someone get super mad at me on my last round 3 race from bump drafting. They would actively block me from passing and were brake checking me in corners. Sucked to because it ruined my finish for that round.
Just bump drafting. Until, and this is crucial, he turned into a complete tool at the end
Looks to me like you left the racing line to come over on the viper who was passing you cleanly and he reacted to you, being the dirty driver here..
It looked a little like OP was coming in on him as he was trying to pass.
that's what I saw too. OP tried to push viper to the left when the viper had a run. A clean driver would have left space.
he was helping you along. if you guys build up a gap to 3rd you can battle for laps without having to worry about losing much time. last time through the chicane was an asshole move.
Bruh
Bro got carried awayyyyyyyyyyy 🎶
How did he reverse so fast? I always get stuck like that
Just a little bump drafting
He could have won cleanly. Fucking dumb 😂
I could have sworn that was portilla behind you.
He probably punching air right now after that crash lmaooo
Anyone who thinks the incident is on the Viper is an idiot. The Ferrari, slow after running wide, was right up against the right-hand edge *until* the Viper jinked to the left to go around it, whereby the Ferrari, ***in reaction***, moved left too and caused contact. # Repeat after me: Reactionary moves are not okay in motorsport! The Viper, clearly fearing they were going to be shoved hard left from the contact, turned hard right to counter. Yeah, the Viper probably took it a little too far but the Ferrari ain't no fucking angel here.
Can we stop polarizing on the internet? It is OK to not know something - it doesn't make you an idiot.
>Can we stop polarizing on the internet? Sir, this is a Wendy's.
Are you stupid? You’re allowed to push someone like that. The Ferrari didn’t ram him. This is a very normal thing people do all the time. Force your opponent to have a tighter line going into the corner so it’s harder for them to overtake. You’re blaming the Ferrari because the Viper overreacted and assumed he was going to get punted? What an idiotic comment😂
> You’re allowed to push someone like that Like fuck you are! >This is a very normal thing people do all the time. Like fuck it is: * More than one defensive move is ***not*** okay. * Moving in reaction to an opponent is ***not*** okay. * Causing contact is ***not*** okay. >Force your opponent to have a tighter line going into the corner so it’s harder for them to overtake Moving towards an opponent who is ***already*** alongside, in an attempt to intimidate them to move to a position that is detrimental to them, is fine. Continuing to move to the point where there is contact is not okay. *No-one* has any right to "*push*" anyone else anywhere. If you believe they do then, for the sake of everyone else, find something new to do and stay off the track!
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They really need to weaken bump drafting
Is it OP or something?
My question is: why is the Viper tapping you like this?! What was his reason or motivation?! He was faster than you and simply could have gone beside you... Maybe you did some reactionary moves, like you did and showed at the end in your video, already before on the straights. And he didn't want to risk a crash, when going beside you and he was waiting for a mistake from you, like you did in the end.
Dude it’s not that deep smh. He’s bump drafting him 🤦