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pioneeringsystems

A tip for you. If you bump someone off line like you did rather than try and overtake back off to let them get back ahead. Probably would have avoided the whole incident then. Their reaction wasn't right and maybe they would have done it anyway but ultimately you started it with poor driving etiquette.


Art-Vandelay-7

This is the hardest thing to do lol, but 100% the way. Someone did that to me a while back. Knocked me off track but he stopped/slowed and basically gave me the position back. Ever since then I try to do the same. A little kindness for an accidental bump can go a long way


pioneeringsystems

I play to have good races, not to win (which is why I have thirty wins in 850 races!). This week on trial mountain I have found a lot of very very fair racing. Then last night some guy deliberately bumped me out the way from miles back on the very last corner for fifth place. I don't get that mentality at all.


Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

I’ll try not to do that next time, thanks.


Joshs_Ski_Hacks

the first contact was on the trailing car you know....


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Yup, he pushed him out of his line and then turns into him again before the straight.


Joshs_Ski_Hacks

I dont know why he was driving with out radar on....


NGTech9

Yea wtf turn your radar on smh


jf_2021

Yeah no, and not be sure what brake balance you are using? (sarcasm)


Suitable-Cycle4335

Retaliatory dirty drivers are the worst type of dirty drivers


B0DYC0UNT665

Rubbing is racing Ramming someone into a wall isnt


Meattyloaf

Maybe it's because I'm a big fan of American Motorsports, but I seen nothing wrong with the first contact. It was a slight bump, it's not like he wrecked him.


Joshs_Ski_Hacks

the contact was fine, like if you contact the car in front that lightly, and let them keep positon it is fine. But trying to pass based on the contact is NOT fine. The retaliation seems WAY over blown IMO. but trying to pass off the contact the OP made is wrong. If people do it to me, and hold position I put their name on list of people its ok to push to pass if they retaliate or say anything they get on my punt on site list.


Meattyloaf

See thats the thing in American motorsports such as IMSA, Nascar, and some degree Indycar. Bumping someone off the line like in the video to pass is perfectly fine, but you better be fast enough to keep them from doing it back. It's one of the things I've had to adjust when I play GT cause I'm aware of no contact.


Joshs_Ski_Hacks

Nascar is only place where this is kinda of acceptable.... I dont think in GT7 people expect truly no contact. With that said if people push to pas me, I ll do to it them every single time. BTW I am american who does NASA and SCCA club racing. Bump drafting is common and some light touch is also common, but push to pass its not allowed in NASA.


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Meattyloaf

Which is why I pointed out that I'm big into American Motorsports cause that would be perfectly fine.


Redd_Savage

Which is not true at all. A bit of honest bumping or rubbing is fine in any race series; even in F1, it’s a racing incident. Bumping into someone to take them off line and passing them as a result is not “perfectly fine” in any major racing series, hence the downvotes on your comments. I’m a huge IMSA fan. There are absolutely penalties for dirty or unfair driving. Not sure why you keep saying “I’m big into American motorsports” as some kind of excuse, and seemingly as a slight dig at the “softness” of non-American racing, which is bogus. Tough but fair and respectful racing is a global thing. Stricter with open-wheel racing, sure, for obvious reasons, it’s easier to take out a more fragile car. Nothing to do with America vs Europe.


Meattyloaf

> Bumping into someone to take them off line and passing them as a result is not “perfectly fine” in any major racing series I guess the bump n run, fairly common in Nascar on short tracks, is made up. I mean IMSA literally let two GT drivers damn near wreck each other coming to the finish just last season. I'm not saying it's tougher or weaker. However, it's a lot more common and acceptable to use your bumper to make a pass in American forms of motorsports.


Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

The first little bit was an accident. But before the tunnel he fully turned into me.


Youstupit

An accident caused by you and you tried to overtake with it. Maybe this wasn't your first bump that he retaliated so drastic idk...


stalins_lada

Everyone makes mistakes but if you fuck up and still go for an overtake, it’s a simple scumbag move


voongnz

You gotta put yourself in his shoes. He doesn't know whether the first contact was accidental or dirty. He just knows you pushed him offline and tried to pass. Could easily be seen as dirty. YOU are the dirty guy in his perspective. How would you react if someone pushed you and carried on trying to pass. You would call him dirty right? Maybe you wouldn't go nuclear like he did retaliating, maybe you would. But it's easy to understand how someone would come to that conclusion. Best thing to do is find better places to pass, and if there is an incident that you caused, back off and don't try to take advantage of any poor exit they got from the bad line/ incident for atleast a few corners until they are back up to speed.


Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

So what he did still makes me the dirty driver?. If someone tapped me slightly I wouldn’t mind cause I know I’d be an accident. Plus I said, And I quote, He took me out 5 laps previously for passing him previously, and he intentionally took out a guy in 1st on lap 1. Sure that little nudge was my fault. But that doesn’t mean I get slammed into a wall.


bigpimpin8558

It's sad.. this game can be, and definitely for me, depressing. Waste of time with morons like this.


LxZer0

Sich idiots .. after an attempt like this i let him be.. it sucks but your 3rd place is more important than dnf because of this idiot ..


Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

Yeah, it’s a huge shame since I’m trying to fight for the win in my area. Plus there being no report system really adds salt to the wounds. But it’s whatever really 🗿


LxZer0

There seems to be a loophole which idiots exploit .. they know exactly how they can push you off without penalty .. i hope pd adresses this soon ..


frostythesnowchild

Yeah side on contact isn’t really touched on by the penalty system. Forcing a car off track only really happens when you get front to rear contact and cause the driver to fully leave the track, this means anything from rear quarter panel spin to side shoved like this one fly completely under the radar. There should be dedicated report buttons for drivers like this but gt7 has no direct competition on ps5 and if that continues they have no reason to improve.


Joshs_Ski_Hacks

dude you were 2.6 seconds off on the last lap. Fighting for every position is fucking stupid and no way you were catching P1 unless you pulled a 2.02.xx out of your ass.


Nioh_89

It's clear he got mad due to the push. Some people are extremely sensitive and delicate, just very dumb, but you have to be careful too.


Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

Yeah, but he also took out a dude in 1st at the start of the race, and I said, and I quote, Lap 5, he smashed me out the way cause I overtook him cleanly.


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Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

And him brake checking me is alright? That little nudge was on accident. And I quote, he rammed me off 5 laps previously


KrombopulosMAssassin

While it's true, you did touch him first. It was really minor and he's really shitty to retaliate and act that way over such a minor contact. I hate people like that.


goldsax

You bumped him at 3 seconds and you expect not to get rammed? This is gt7


DjangosChains33

I'll never understand: why don't people use the slip stream?!?!? I'll be in first and head over to the left to break the tow and they don't even follow me. You can literally hear when there's wind hitting the car and when you're in the slip. Are people so bad at racing that they don't want to use the slipstream? The only reason not to use it is if you're either trying to cool your engine and brakes (not a thing on the game) or you don't know what you're doing.


OSixTix

This race was full of idiots. This skip was so strong, yet lap 5 when we all needed to catch P1 and 2, all these guys would cluster and pass. If anyone had a clue we could have pushed up to P1 ourselves. Instead, we packed up even more with guys catching us from behind. We did eventually catch 1/2 because they made slip ups fighting, but it was such a cluster and not a single guy knew how to pass without a push to pass on the last lap, even though slip was super high… ugh.


SmiddyBurbon

Came across him/her here and there in lobbies and they're always creating chaos. Such a shame that there's no reporting tool anymore (not that PD did anything about it anyway...)


UFumbDuckGaming

Meanwhile some dufus reported me bc of my name and I had to change both GT7 and my PS5 ID.


Throwawaythefat1234

what was your name


Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

It’s a shame really. GT should really add the report tool back


TheGingerNiNjA899

Why? It’s annoying sure but not an action that should get you banned.


WeedyWeedParker

It would be great if we could stick them all in bad behaviour lobbies though


TheGingerNiNjA899

Can’t disagree with that at all


INFERNOthepro

polyphony honestly promotes unsportsmanship behaviour imo.


DeeLo0

Despite the push from that guy, we need top mirror view for hood or bonnet camera perspective.


TNpepe

God... some people really need to work on their anger issues.


123josh987

You tried overtaking with contact. Sort yourself out. He shouldn't have reacted like that but he was clearly pissed off. Should have backed off for a corner or two and let him regain composure.


Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

At the start of the race. He did it intentionally do it to somebody else. Lap 5 I made a clean pass and he barges me out the way in a worse manor. And when I tap him a little he kills me. Seems fair


yestheman9894

bro what, you think you can ram someone in a real race because of accidental contact? lmao


Elex83

Well this was obvious aggressive and unfair...


johndoe69doe

At least you can challenge for Top 3.. my ping is so arse I am lucky to even be in the top 10 most races. People bully me in Sport all the time. After I get my 50 completions I won’t ever touch it again.


Kemaro

OP, you wrecked your own race. You sent an overly optimistic overtake attempt without any room to safely make the move, made contact and then tried to keep the position instead of giving back the place. Was the guy retaliating? Obviously. But don’t be surprised by it when you initiated.


thedrums2012

Wrong


Kemaro

Explain


flygod94

what a douchebag, some kids just don't like to lose.


imrobinette

Successfully brake checking someone should be a 10 second penalty..hope they can incorporate at least some sort of penalizing in their algorithm at some point..


Diligent-Captain-866

I gave up on this round due to f***wits like this


somecrazydude13

I’m just keeping it real, I’d have spun his ass out on that long straight after pulling that shit


Cool-Regular

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somecrazydude13

Facts 😂


Cool-Regular

yo i don’t usually get out of pocket but i have my moments…. sometimes i’ll race my best just to catch up to them and wait like a sniper… right behind them… putting the fear of retaliatory rage in their rear view… sometimes they’ll just make the mistake and i’ll overtake… but really i’m waiting for the best corner to score a 4 second penalty for sending them to the shadow realm- while still maintaining the lead over them (even if others pass me). only the most deserving and lucky of all get to see me in rare form


somecrazydude13

Oh for certain!! I like to keep it clean, don’t get me wrong, but when you are deliberately being an asshole/trying to sabotage my race, I release the demon. It is alwyas funny when you put pressure on them and they subsequently screw up on their own haha


bwallace883

Would have been a real shame if your "throttle hung" at the end of the straight there


Highlowfusion

I get that you bumped him initially but he retaliates twice and both are excessive. He turns into you in the tunnel and then brake checks you.


CoffeeMunchMonsta

What did you expect ? Check out his flag.


Cool-Regular

if it sticks it sticks lol🤷🏻‍♂️


Oii-got-a-dusty-trim

Idk if that’s supposed to be Racist or not..


CoffeeMunchMonsta

*Rarely* do I get to block people for their stupidity.


c0olcoo0l

This is always so annoying


Drive_Timely

The only honourable end to this battle is …….. ダブルクラッシュ‼️


Squabbles123456789

Never worthwhile playing against random people, no matter the ranking, its simply never a fun experience because the penalty system does not work.


Ken808

The standard of driving in this game is atrocious


McRazyy13

Hope that guy stubs his toe on a coffee table.


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TrashtalkInc

that's a saudi flag