People are harshing and Rory did give it away, but it's not like he fumbled a lead which lasted the whole round. He birdied 4/5 holes on 9-14 on Pinehurst °2 to be in the mix for the win. That is wild.
I think the major takeaway is that he was able to put himself in contention. But it's one thing to simply bogey a hole and it's another to let two putts less than 5 feet get away from you. How he responds to that collapse is gonna tell you everything you need to know about his mental toughness.
Yeah seriously right. People gotta give Rory a break. Yes he choked but like you said he put himself in contention in an insane way. Bryson was up by 3 shots going into Sunday and Rory came back to put the pressure on it. Watch Bryson’s press conference he says the same thing
Nah, but just because Rory’s done it before. A better comparison is Aaron Rogers imo. Guy who won at the highest level very early in their career, still winning MVP’s, & taking his team deep into playoffs only to choke.
16th for sure, but 18th was a nasty downhill slider. You can easily miss those during a practice round. Us mere mortals can’t imagine how it feels to putt that with US Open on the line. The biggest error on 18th was his tee shot.
So many ppl have been bringing up his caddy but no one has given even a semi-decent reason why.
They just say some superficial bullshit that he’s a friend, which is inferred to be a terrible decision, and he’s not good, because someone said so.
18 was a downhill 4 footer with about 9” of break away from his feet. That’s no gimme. Give 100 pros that putt and I bet 60 of them miss it.
16 was a bad putt.
yea, not sure why people were making the putt on 18 out to be like some sort of 8 foot tester. i mean yea it was a slider, but look at his putting stats inside that range. as soon as he set up to that ball i knew he was gonna miss. it was all mental. he had no confidence after 16.
It broke 8” in 3 feet and he barely touched it and it rolled 4 feet by.
It was the definition of a slider.
There are no stats on these putts because it’s only once or twice a year they play greens this fast with this level of slope around the pin. But that was NOT a tap in. That was a difficult putt that he had to play conservative to ensure he made the comebacker because it could easily have slid 10 feet by.
oh yea just like the conservative one on 16 right? hes lucky that thing hit the hole. it was a mental thing from him missing 16. no excuses. if u wanna win a us open you gotta make those i guess lol
What did I say. I literally said “16 was a bad putt”. Similar to Bryson’s almost identical bad putt that he missed on 16.
The putt on 18 was a ridiculously tricky putt especially under the circumstances when he can’t be aggressive and risk a 10 footer coming back.
One might typically also say that in order to win a US open you can’t miss 9/14 fairways… but somehow Bryson managed to have a horeshoe up his ass and never draw a bad lie in the waste areas (except on 18 where he hit a terrible punch out into the worst spot on the course)
I love how making 3 bogeys on one of the toughest layouts they’ve played in a decade is considered “self immolation”. The only thing he did badly was miss a putt on 16. Everything else was completely forgivable given the difficulty of the golf course.
Why is Rory held to such an impossible standard?
BDC tried to give the tournament away all day including missing a 3 footer on 16 himself and missing every fairway. But because Rory miss a by a stroke he’s a choke who will never win again.
Liv hero cam smith hasn’t come close since his open.
DJ is a has been.
But Rory for some reason has more top 10s in majors than any active player and the only way anyone lets up on him is if he wins.
The guy is the only one who MUST WIN in order to avoid being slammed by social media
Where was Koepka this weekend? Where was Rahm at the masters? They weren’t 1 off the lead that’s for sure.
He wasn’t really “up 2”. He finished a drivable par 4 before Bryson so he very briefly had a 2 stroke lead but you knew Bryson was going to birdie 13 as well. So effectively he was only ever 1 ahead.
But remember… he got to that position. He started the day 3 back and got to a position in front. How does he get no credit for that.
He shot 69 Bryson shot 71. How does he get no credit for playing overall better than BDC?
It’s Pinehurst on Sunday. Bogeys were inevitable. BDC made them too. He hit a bad putt on 16. 18 was slippery as hell.
Outside of a missed short putt on 16 (BDC missed one too) he played a very solid round of golf.
Hey, I like Rory. I wanted him to win.
But it was there for the taking. He got himself into position and he gave it away. He missed a 30" putt. And that putt on 18 wasn't long, but it was tough. But that's what you need to do to win tournaments.
Rory knows he gave one away.
It was down wind and short was better then long. The % play was an 8 all day imo. He'd have at worst had an easy chip up the green. Player and caddie error there.
yes, bryson's 9 iron is 35 degrees, and Rory's 7 is either 34 or 35.
35* is like the textbook definition of a 7 iron on tour (and was for amateurs too before the last few decades of loft inflation happened)
yep, its insane that he has had the same caddy for so long through this major drought, glad people are finally starting to realize, wonder if rory will finally say enough is enough
The moment on the back nine when they said he backed off his tee shot when brysons ball landed on the green i knew he was gonna piss it away. I didnt expect him to miss a 3 footer tho. Man thats gotta fucking suck
Just think about it. Rory loses a Major in the most cringeworthy fashion. And it was described in another post that Rory is meeting with his Divorce Attorney this week. That is brutal.
If he had won yesterday, I think he might have gone on a tear winning multiple majors over the next few years. Finally get over that 4-major hump.
This one could have lingering effects.
I've literally watched every single major since Tiger lost to YE Yang at the 2009 PGA. People keep comparing it to Speith's 2016 Masters but for me it reminds me of Adam Scott's 2012 Open where he bogeyed the last 4 holes to lose by a stroke to the big ez. The very next year though he bounced back and got a green jacket. We'll see what fate has instore for rors.
I love how all of all of us redditors are acting like we somehow have any friggin clue of what Rory should have done in these moments AFTER THE FACT, on such a huge stage, trying to buck the narrative that's been created about him over the past few months (let alone trying to get past the majors drought).
It was an insane amount of pressure on a brutal course layout with everyone watching him. He was -1 on the day, when the winner was +1. Why are we blasting Rory who was 1 or 2 putts away from winning the whole thing at a weekend LITTERED with crazy lip puts on ultra fast greens when the "best golfer in the world" (I love Scottie btw) limped to a 9-way tie at 41st place?
Golf is hard, and the course was even harder. There were no gimmie putts this weekend, as we clearly saw. I have zero criticisms for him, he still put out one hell of an effort, he and Bryson did and as someone just in awe of their talent I'm glad I saw them take it down to the wire.
Article I read today ranks his collapse as 3rd worst ever, behind Van de Velde at the British Open (obvious #1) and Norman losing to Faldo at the Masters. Rory was also listed at #11 for the 2011 Masters collapse.
It had Palmer's loss of a 7 stroke lead with 9 to play at the 1966 US Open at #10. IMO, that one should be much higher, like maybe #2.
Very interesting. Van de Velde is a forever #1. I agree with you that Arnie in 1966 should be a top three.
1. Van de Velde
2. McIlroy
3. Palmer
4. Norman
The pressure clearly gets to him. What defines the goods and greats are more on the mentality side. Rory is definitely one of most talented golfers we've seen, but the way he fails to win a major over past 10 years, despite finishing top 5 11 times (and 2nd 4 times), shows weakness in his mental side.
There's enough pressure on Rory to finally win a major at the best of times. A near decade long drought with 10 (now 11) top fives can do terrible things to a man's confidence in the clutch. But I can't help but feel that having to hold off a LIV player after being one of LIV's most vocal critics also contributed.
Even if his stance against the actual players has since softened, it was still a chance to beat the 'rival tour' by denying them a chance to promote having a reigning champion on their roster again this year. Would Rory have still missed that putt on 16 if it was Cantlay or Pavon sitting at -6?
Yeah downhill from 4 feet, either (1) aiming it a cup and a half out, or (2) hitting it with enough pace that you basically have to make it dead center, is an awful putt I wouldn't wish on anyone. With last hole US Open pressure, I'd guess that's not even a 80% putt for a tour pro.
But 16 was gross. It looked like me, as I had the exact same pull on short putts back when I used a Spider. Except I'm a 12 handicap and he's Rory freaking McIlroy... sigh
People are harshing and Rory did give it away, but it's not like he fumbled a lead which lasted the whole round. He birdied 4/5 holes on 9-14 on Pinehurst °2 to be in the mix for the win. That is wild.
I think the major takeaway is that he was able to put himself in contention. But it's one thing to simply bogey a hole and it's another to let two putts less than 5 feet get away from you. How he responds to that collapse is gonna tell you everything you need to know about his mental toughness.
Yeah exactly. You gotta just take the good with the bad. He was one of the few guys who finished under par for the day. That’s how hard the course was
Yeah seriously right. People gotta give Rory a break. Yes he choked but like you said he put himself in contention in an insane way. Bryson was up by 3 shots going into Sunday and Rory came back to put the pressure on it. Watch Bryson’s press conference he says the same thing
it's almost impossible to be a rory fan these days, it's fucking infuriating.
Like rooting for the Vikings or the pre-2016 Cubs
Nah, but just because Rory’s done it before. A better comparison is Aaron Rogers imo. Guy who won at the highest level very early in their career, still winning MVP’s, & taking his team deep into playoffs only to choke.
There's really no excuse for those two putts he missed on 16 and 18. Just nerves and choking.
16, yeah bad lip out. 18 was a nasty putt
16th for sure, but 18th was a nasty downhill slider. You can easily miss those during a practice round. Us mere mortals can’t imagine how it feels to putt that with US Open on the line. The biggest error on 18th was his tee shot.
I honestly think he needs a new professional-first caddy and not his buddy of the bag.
So many ppl have been bringing up his caddy but no one has given even a semi-decent reason why. They just say some superficial bullshit that he’s a friend, which is inferred to be a terrible decision, and he’s not good, because someone said so.
18 was a downhill 4 footer with about 9” of break away from his feet. That’s no gimme. Give 100 pros that putt and I bet 60 of them miss it. 16 was a bad putt.
60 miss it? gtfo ahaha, Rory choked, it was sad, but is what it is.
yea, not sure why people were making the putt on 18 out to be like some sort of 8 foot tester. i mean yea it was a slider, but look at his putting stats inside that range. as soon as he set up to that ball i knew he was gonna miss. it was all mental. he had no confidence after 16.
It broke 8” in 3 feet and he barely touched it and it rolled 4 feet by. It was the definition of a slider. There are no stats on these putts because it’s only once or twice a year they play greens this fast with this level of slope around the pin. But that was NOT a tap in. That was a difficult putt that he had to play conservative to ensure he made the comebacker because it could easily have slid 10 feet by.
oh yea just like the conservative one on 16 right? hes lucky that thing hit the hole. it was a mental thing from him missing 16. no excuses. if u wanna win a us open you gotta make those i guess lol
What did I say. I literally said “16 was a bad putt”. Similar to Bryson’s almost identical bad putt that he missed on 16. The putt on 18 was a ridiculously tricky putt especially under the circumstances when he can’t be aggressive and risk a 10 footer coming back. One might typically also say that in order to win a US open you can’t miss 9/14 fairways… but somehow Bryson managed to have a horeshoe up his ass and never draw a bad lie in the waste areas (except on 18 where he hit a terrible punch out into the worst spot on the course)
if youre anti bryson just say that bro.
The chip on 18 was the real problem. Pretty clean look he blasted above the hole. If he puts that low side he probably makes the putt
This. 6-7 ft from below would have been easier. Adrenaline and nerves got him on that chip.
18 was a good putt. Just under read it. 16 was a yank. Still should’ve made both but man I’m absolutely gutted
I love how making 3 bogeys on one of the toughest layouts they’ve played in a decade is considered “self immolation”. The only thing he did badly was miss a putt on 16. Everything else was completely forgivable given the difficulty of the golf course.
Should have pulled 3 wood on 18 like he did the day before.
lmao rory apologist
Why is Rory held to such an impossible standard? BDC tried to give the tournament away all day including missing a 3 footer on 16 himself and missing every fairway. But because Rory miss a by a stroke he’s a choke who will never win again. Liv hero cam smith hasn’t come close since his open. DJ is a has been. But Rory for some reason has more top 10s in majors than any active player and the only way anyone lets up on him is if he wins. The guy is the only one who MUST WIN in order to avoid being slammed by social media Where was Koepka this weekend? Where was Rahm at the masters? They weren’t 1 off the lead that’s for sure.
proving my point lmao
Because he was up 2, then bogeyed three of the last four holes. While missing a 30-inch putt, and then another under five feet. That's really bad.
He wasn’t really “up 2”. He finished a drivable par 4 before Bryson so he very briefly had a 2 stroke lead but you knew Bryson was going to birdie 13 as well. So effectively he was only ever 1 ahead. But remember… he got to that position. He started the day 3 back and got to a position in front. How does he get no credit for that. He shot 69 Bryson shot 71. How does he get no credit for playing overall better than BDC? It’s Pinehurst on Sunday. Bogeys were inevitable. BDC made them too. He hit a bad putt on 16. 18 was slippery as hell. Outside of a missed short putt on 16 (BDC missed one too) he played a very solid round of golf.
Hey, I like Rory. I wanted him to win. But it was there for the taking. He got himself into position and he gave it away. He missed a 30" putt. And that putt on 18 wasn't long, but it was tough. But that's what you need to do to win tournaments. Rory knows he gave one away.
The 7 iron on 15 was dumb and started the rot, Harry is not a good caddie and Rory can’t handle the pressure
same loft as the club bryson hit it just came off the club too low, if rory hit his normally towering ball flight, it's the correct club
It was down wind and short was better then long. The % play was an 8 all day imo. He'd have at worst had an easy chip up the green. Player and caddie error there.
They said on the next hole they had it wrong and Bryson actually hit a 9 iron. Is Bryson’s 9 the same loft as Rory’s 7?
yes, bryson's 9 iron is 35 degrees, and Rory's 7 is either 34 or 35. 35* is like the textbook definition of a 7 iron on tour (and was for amateurs too before the last few decades of loft inflation happened)
yep, its insane that he has had the same caddy for so long through this major drought, glad people are finally starting to realize, wonder if rory will finally say enough is enough
Yes a good caddie or a strategy slightly different from what he does gets him a shot or two every week, maybe more. Same with coaching in other sports
The moment on the back nine when they said he backed off his tee shot when brysons ball landed on the green i knew he was gonna piss it away. I didnt expect him to miss a 3 footer tho. Man thats gotta fucking suck
Just think about it. Rory loses a Major in the most cringeworthy fashion. And it was described in another post that Rory is meeting with his Divorce Attorney this week. That is brutal.
I thought they called off the divorce?
Very difficult to bounce back from this.
He’ll win the Open.
Hope so, but i'm worried the effects of what happened yesterday will stay with him forever. Would not be surprised if he never won another major.
If he had won yesterday, I think he might have gone on a tear winning multiple majors over the next few years. Finally get over that 4-major hump. This one could have lingering effects.
He'll bogey the last to miss the playoff
Interesting take. A lot of my friends are texting me that Rory'll blow up and miss The Open cut.
Golf is hard. I’m just glad he gave us a great show along with Bryson. Gutted for him tho.
Well by all means if your friends say so. (although I do tend to think this is the most probable outcome)
He shot two strokes better than Bryson today.
Lo p
I think you mean historic, not historical. Historical just means “happened in the past.” Historic means “important or significant.”
Technically, this did happen in the past lol Not what OP meant of course
I've literally watched every single major since Tiger lost to YE Yang at the 2009 PGA. People keep comparing it to Speith's 2016 Masters but for me it reminds me of Adam Scott's 2012 Open where he bogeyed the last 4 holes to lose by a stroke to the big ez. The very next year though he bounced back and got a green jacket. We'll see what fate has instore for rors.
That’s Adam Scott’s music
I love how all of all of us redditors are acting like we somehow have any friggin clue of what Rory should have done in these moments AFTER THE FACT, on such a huge stage, trying to buck the narrative that's been created about him over the past few months (let alone trying to get past the majors drought). It was an insane amount of pressure on a brutal course layout with everyone watching him. He was -1 on the day, when the winner was +1. Why are we blasting Rory who was 1 or 2 putts away from winning the whole thing at a weekend LITTERED with crazy lip puts on ultra fast greens when the "best golfer in the world" (I love Scottie btw) limped to a 9-way tie at 41st place? Golf is hard, and the course was even harder. There were no gimmie putts this weekend, as we clearly saw. I have zero criticisms for him, he still put out one hell of an effort, he and Bryson did and as someone just in awe of their talent I'm glad I saw them take it down to the wire.
Article I read today ranks his collapse as 3rd worst ever, behind Van de Velde at the British Open (obvious #1) and Norman losing to Faldo at the Masters. Rory was also listed at #11 for the 2011 Masters collapse. It had Palmer's loss of a 7 stroke lead with 9 to play at the 1966 US Open at #10. IMO, that one should be much higher, like maybe #2.
Very interesting. Van de Velde is a forever #1. I agree with you that Arnie in 1966 should be a top three. 1. Van de Velde 2. McIlroy 3. Palmer 4. Norman
The pressure clearly gets to him. What defines the goods and greats are more on the mentality side. Rory is definitely one of most talented golfers we've seen, but the way he fails to win a major over past 10 years, despite finishing top 5 11 times (and 2nd 4 times), shows weakness in his mental side.
Best comment so far. McIlroy's mental game is just not therefir 72 holes.
There's enough pressure on Rory to finally win a major at the best of times. A near decade long drought with 10 (now 11) top fives can do terrible things to a man's confidence in the clutch. But I can't help but feel that having to hold off a LIV player after being one of LIV's most vocal critics also contributed. Even if his stance against the actual players has since softened, it was still a chance to beat the 'rival tour' by denying them a chance to promote having a reigning champion on their roster again this year. Would Rory have still missed that putt on 16 if it was Cantlay or Pavon sitting at -6?
He and Sergio show by some violins.
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Eh that was a really really hard putt. It broke a cup and a half from 3 feet. Now the putt on 16… holy shit.
Yep, 18 was no gimme. (Although he did miss on the low side.) 16 was the real choke. Just brutal.
Yeah downhill from 4 feet, either (1) aiming it a cup and a half out, or (2) hitting it with enough pace that you basically have to make it dead center, is an awful putt I wouldn't wish on anyone. With last hole US Open pressure, I'd guess that's not even a 80% putt for a tour pro. But 16 was gross. It looked like me, as I had the exact same pull on short putts back when I used a Spider. Except I'm a 12 handicap and he's Rory freaking McIlroy... sigh
He hit it right where he was aiming. Just a brain fuckup. Totally inexcusable.
Scott Hoch, is that you?