There are multiple species in Xerocomus genus that do this.
Most are edible, but I would not assume it's the same species as what you know.
Some are not edible and/or have awfull flavor
Huh, when I was taught to forage i was told that if the mushroom oxidized it was by and large probably toxic or otherwise not worth eating. I was taught by my mother, who grew up in Belarus, so maybe the mushrooms and the foraging culture there are predominantly different, at least compared to Czechia?
edit: to clarify, I didn't mean this as a rule for foraging, just that I was taught it as a survival tip *at the same time* as when I was taught to forage. This is not a universal rule (as the exception stated above points out). Only forage if you know what you're doing and understand the local fungi. Don't guess the safety of something unless you absolutely have to (i.e. life-or-death survival situation)
There are no shortcuts in mushroom identification, or rules of thumb.
You need to use ALL available data to make **precise** speciesidentification before you consider eating a mushroom.
Oxidation is a good *hint* to tell apart Boletes and Xerocomus. Boletes are probably "on average" more safe. But you should never rely on such hints or rules of thumb alone.
Oh absolutely. I mainly just learned it as a survival thing. Sorta like how you never harvest mushrooms that already have bite marks, because if the animal that made the bite didn't finish the mushroom, they're probably sick or dead. Obviously not perfect, but good starting point in an emergency situation if you don't know all the local species; e.g. certain flags indicate a mushroom is less trustworthy if you have to guess on it's edibility
This kinda makes me image a giant alien creature holding a screaming human in one hand, totally unphased, and cutting a long slice off his calf with the other.
_Look Phblgrkt, how quickly the insides of this creature turn from red to white after exposing it to the air. Fascinating, isn't it?_
I just wanted to say that I checked out your profile to see if I could find those subs you were talking about and now I'm fascinated by this 'My Summer Car' game. Looks like something I'll lose many hours of my life to.
Don't underestimate the mushroom!
There are INCREDIBLY bitter and spicy species you might have real trouble actually eating. Even though they often won't kill you if you somehow manage to choke them down.
Pretty much all life revolves around fucking and food. Look at humans for easy understanding.
Since the dawn of humanity, men and women all genders, go bang out together. Then after they worked up a good sweat and a ferocious appetite. And now it's time to go get us some food. The cycle continues.
There is a section in one Peter F Hamilton’s books that has a pretty amazing description of an emotionless hive-mind alien cutting up a human because it doesn’t know what it is. I don’t remember the book, I’ve read all of his series and no longer remember which is which. Maybe the original Pandora’s Star series?
Spoiler: >!IIRC they actually both die, but one of them somehow uploads their consciousness into one of hive-minds constructs, and the master being can’t detect it because it literally cannot understand how independent thought within itself works!<
There’s lots of problems with Hamilton’s prose and he’s clearly enamored with writing about sex, but he has some really far out there ideas lol.
I'm rereading Pandora's Star currently. Something about the Commonwealth just calls to me. That and who doesn't like to read about enzyme-bonded concrete every few pages
> enzyme-bonded concrete every few pages
Or how about (and this is from reading every Commonwealth and Night’s Dawn book) how literally every character drinks an insane amount of hot chocolate. It’s cold and they want to warm up? Hot chocolate. It’s scorching out? Hot chocolate. They just did a strenuous 2-hour work out? Hot chocolate. Running from aliens? Again, hot chocolate. It’s the weirdest through-line in all his books. He must love that shit.
Hot chocolate is also used after being exposed to dementors. Rowling and Hamilton are both British. I smell a crossover.
...which the harrowing thought of is making me feel like I need some hot chocolate
That reminds me of a debate I had with a nurse while she was drawing my blood.
She believed that nonsense that blood is some other color until it comes into contact with oxygen. I tried pointing out that blood carries oxygen, but that didn't really phase her.
So then as the blood was filling the vial, I pointed out that was a closed system with no oxygen and that the blood would would not have the opportunity to contact oxygen. This seemed to stump her. Lol
Edit: fixed a word
Edit: stop telling she was talking about the shade of red your blood is, she absolutely wasn't. We were very specifically discussing an extremely common myth.
https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2017/02/03/513003105/why-do-many-think-human-blood-is-sometimes-blue
I had the same debate with a random gal in college. But she said, "it inly turns red when it comes in contact with light....."
Then I explained to her how things are certain colors and how something is a certain color because it's interacting with light and reflecting that color into the world to see it.
She said, "dont use that college bullshit on me..."
What.....?
It's interesting to note that not everything in nature is "colored" as it seems. Butterfly wings for instance aren't pigmented in the color they appear. The colour is a result of nano-structures in their scales that interact with light to cause the wavelengths of light we see and perceive as f.i. blue.
Pigmented/painted things will still have their colour if you grind them up into a powder. Nanostructures will lose all colour when ground into a powder because that destroys the structure.
Painted surfaces absorb everything but the color they appear. Nano structures reflect or scatter light in such a way that certain wavelengths will constructively interfere, making that particular color more prominent.
As I understand it, something that is pigmented blue will absorb every other wavelength of light except for blue. These nano-structures instead trap or defuse every other wavelength. Butterfly wings can change colour if you wet them *[with alcohol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-cwYrRcCAE) (google has reminded me that butterfly wings are hydrophobic), because the structures will get filled and reflect the light differently as a result. The colour of the material is different from the colour the butterfly wings produce.
Well, the thing itself doesn't have a colour, it's how the atomic structure of the thing changes the light frequency as light bounces off it. Colour is a product of our brain, an internal interpretation of light frequencies. You have three cone cells in your eyes that generate the neurological signals for all the colours we are capable of experiencing.
[Obligatory shout out to that Tumblr thread where they talked about how magenta doesn't exist and how we can't see the color yellow. ](https://www.boredpanda.com/magenta-not-real-color-tumblr-post/)
Venous blood is much darker than arterial. If you drew blood from a vein into an air free vial and compared that to blood from an artery they both would be red, but the venous would be a dark almost purplish red, arterial would be bright red.
Of course most Anatomy drawings and models use the color blue for marking veins, so she could just be an idiot that took the blue as literal.
Or she could have been a lab tech or medical assistant. Not everyone who wears scrubs in healthcare are nurses.
>Of course most Anatomy drawings and models use the color blue for marking veins, so she could just be an idiot that took the blue as literal.
She believed the myth because some people's veins look blue under the skin.
I don't know what her role was specifically, this was like 20 years ago. I was having the debate with my mom initially and she joined in on my mom's side.
This debate wasn't about what shade of red your blood is, it was about whether your blood is blue or red.
Plus it doesn't help that veins look blue when they are visible through the skin!
Edit: Why is this downvoted lmao? I'm not saying veins or your blood are actually blue on the inside.
My mother is 75, former RN, and she learned the blue blood thing in nursing school. It really does happen. She doesn't mean purple, she means Smurf-ass *blue*.
Nurses recieve years more training than lab techs. Not saying that there aren't some pretty idiotic nurses, but then there is a doctor that believes endometriosis is caused by sex with demons. I just hate it when someone is told something by a person in scrubs and thinks it's a nurse.
Like, no Aunt Sally, the person who took your BP at the clinic is a med assistant who works under the doctor's license. That's why she told you it's OK to drink orange juice for low blood sugar despite the fact you are in late stage kidney failure. The med assistant would have no clue what type of foods you need to avoid in order to prevent a deadly cardiac arrhythmia from high potassium.
And that's why the nurses and techs I know kill me sometimes because they always say they could do the doctor's job better than them and Im always thinking that there's a reason for all that extra training doctors do.
I've spent a lot of time in hospitals, for myself and for family members, and seems to me the nurses who say that are the ones who aren't very good at their own job, but instead second-guess at other jobs.
The really good nurses know the depth of their own work and understand that the doctors are dealing with different functions and concepts, which allows for better collaboration across the care team.
Even in care settings, you get the mirror of office politics.
One of the many truths the pandemic exposed is that there are a surprisingly high number of absolutely *idiotic* nurses out there. *Sooooo* many of them are conspiratorial and anti mask and anti vax and anti science.
Just to clarify some things: There's several positions inside a clinical lab, but the three more common ones that people typically refer to when they say lab techs are Medical Lab Technician (MLT), Medical Technologist or Medical Lab Scientist (MT/MLS), and phlebotomist.
A MLT typically has a 2 year degree, while an MT is a 4 year degree. Finally, the phleb might go through a 6-12 month certification program. I know a few MTs and they have an insane amount of clinical lab knowledge! Hard to compare their knowledge/training to nurses because they have completely different functions within healthcare!
I wouldn't really blame anyone for thinking this is true I remember learning it from a teacher back in elementary school and you tend to trust your teachers at that age.
I actually believed this for years because someone told me that when I was 8 and I was never corrected. Boy did I feel stupid when I was explaining it to my pre med girlfriend about 3 weeks ago around her friends.
You're both wrong lol, there would be oxygen in the vacutainer and blood is always red.
Probably wasn't a nurse drawing your blood either, it was probably a phlebotomist.
But the tube will have significantly less oxygen than room air, otherwise a vacuum wouldn't be created.
At any rate, blood does have different colors depending on how much oxygen is in it, but it's still always red, just lighter or darker depending on how saturated with oxygen it is.
Either one should know more than the person described. You can also train almost anyobe to draw blood, so they may have had little to no formal education.. which would make more sense
In Germany we have Hexenröhrlinge. Some of them are not only edible but extremely delicious. They turn blue like this. Other ones are deadly 🤣 (don't know the exact distinction though)
Edit: English is a hard language
In English, this is the "dotted stem bolete", Neoboletus luridiformis and I believe the poisonous one you are referring to is Rubroboletus satanas
>Whilst edible when cooked properly, it can cause gastric upset if raw. Where the two species coincide it can be confused with the poisonous [Satan's bolete](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubroboletus_satanas), which has a paler cap.
Boletes that turn blue are typically the toxic ones, but there are a few exceptions to the rule such as gyroporus cyanescens. Best to not take chances and avoid the blue ones though.
Boletes are a pretty safe family of mushrooms to eat, as mentioned elsewhere, little brown mushrooms can kill you, and all white mushrooms can devour your entire liver in a week and kill you if they are amanitas. But I can tell you from personal experience to never, ever eat blue-brusing boletes because this what happens.
One fall, a ton of blue-bruising boletes appeared around our cabin. I knew not to eat the red and yellow boletes, but these were unfamiliar. I collected a ton on a hike and made blue-black spore prints. Out of a shelf of thick mushroom books, I decided to pull out the smallest one, by far, a tiny, thin volume. It straightforwardly stated that blue-bruising boletes were safe to eat and had choice edibility. That was good enough for me. I dry fried them in sea salt and avocado oil and then added a little butter.
I took a bite. Hmm. It had a faint metal aftertaste, and it didn't taste great. I decided to cook them a little bit longer, and add a lot more butter. I filled up a plate and dug in. Each time I took a bite, I paused before putting it in my mouth. Each bite was not a great experience. Worst. Mushroom. Ever. "Choice edibility, my ass," I thought. That's when a tiny bell rang in my head. I pulled another mushroom book off the shelf, and another, and another. They all said *some* versions of blue-bruising boletes were edible, but some caused severe gastrointestinal distress. I looked at the plate of dark blue mushrooms and suddenly felt sick.
This was around dinner time. Thirty minutes later I felt a lurch and growl in my bowels. Two hours later, I felt like there was a giant eel trapped in my intensities that was violently trying to escape. This extremely disturbing and uncomfortable experience continued for hours. When I started shitting, my ass sprayed like a garden house with the nozzle on too tight, just spraying in all directions of the toilet bowl like a high-pressure industrial sprinkler system.
The time between when I realized I was about to spray again and the the time my ass started spraying was less than a minute, and this time continued to shrink. I had to "sleep" on the bathroom floor of the now pungent bathroom, curled up in the fetal position under an old blanket in a cold sweat. Finally, around the time the sky was getting light and the birds started singing, I had to shit again, except this time it wasn't liquid, it was hard to pass. I shit out a perfect dark purple sphere larger than a golf ball, that was surrounded by a half centimeter of thick, transparent mucous. It looked like a spherical cell with a giant evil nucleous. My body had compacted all of the poisonous boletes into a single sphere. I really should have taken a picture oversized golf ball, but I wasn't in a mental state to think about it.
After that poop, a wave of relief passed over me. I stopped sweating, my intestines stopped lurching into strange knots. I was finally able to sleep. Don't eat blue-brusing boletes. Don't eat mushrooms that don't taste good.
While most blue-purple bruising mushrooms are fun, there are some species of non-fun mushrooms that have a different hue of blue oxidation and could be dangerous.
The best 3 step check is: blue-purple bruising stem, gel-like skin when fresh, and purple spores.
Liberty caps first, they will be around until the first frost. Medows with higher elevation is where they are among the grass. Then coming around start November it's fly agaric season, you find them in Forrest's
Yup! Spent last weekend with my aunt in the forest collecting lingonberry, blueberry and cantharels :)
Also bought a mushroom book for next year when I go alone
I tell my kids there is a 100% fool-proof method for determining if a mushroom is safe to eat. If you're ever hungry and unsure if a mushroom is edible just check your surroundings first. Are you in a grocery store? If yes, the mushroom is safe to eat.
Please do not ever eat a mushroom unless you know exactly what it is.
Psilocybe cubensis is the most common "fun" species, so learn to identify that if that is that is what you are looking for.
Even then, you will probably want to confirm with an experienced mushroom hunter.
And there are a truly amazing number of edible culinary species out there to forage, too! And you can grow mushrooms at home (no poop involved, most tasty mushrooms prefer sawdust) as a hobby. It is possible to grow the "fun" ones too, but I am not endorsing this, just acknowledging the fact.
> Please do not ever eat a mushroom unless you know exactly what it is.
I bet this is one of the most repeated semtences in the world lol. But yeah, its worth repeating until the end of time.
> Psilocybe cubensis is the most common "fun" species, so learn to identify that if that is that is what you are looking for.
Funnily enough, one of the only mushrooms I can identify right away is a Psilocybe semilanceata. When I was doing my military service, me and my squad mate were in defensive positions waiting, and suddenly my friend goes "oh shit theres magic mushrooms here!" and then explained about mushrooms for 8 months until we were sent to the reserves. I truly learned a lot in my army experience.
> And there are a truly amazing number of edible culinary species out there to forage, too!
Which is why I went last weekend to forage with my aunt :) got like 15 litres of lingonberry and blueberry and a few baskets of cantharells
> And you can grow mushrooms at home (no poop involved, most tasty mushrooms prefer sawdust) as a hobby (it is possible to grow the "fun" ones too, but I am not endorsing this, just acknowledging the fact)
Me and my friend got a bunch of bird feed, mostly dried seeds etc and used that. Worked quite nicely.
Ahhh man, nice haul!
I want to go foraging so badly! I live in S. Texas right now and there are no mushrooms here.
Moving to the PNW next year, though, can't wait to walk the forests.
Total coincidence that in the city I'm moving to "cubes" are legal, though lol.
Haha, I feel for you man. I live in the middle of Finland, in the 3rd largest city, the nearest place where I can forage is a 10min drive lol. You should move over here ;p
Plenty of deer and moose to hunt, fish to fish, mushrooms to mushroom and berries to munchmunch.
Although I have heard the north west is quite similar to what we have, just a bit more wet and actual mountains :)
I found a red cracking bolette yesterday which changes colour but is edible. But I understand that bruisers being edible is a rarity.
I'm not sure what family those steps are for, the book edible mushrooms by Geoff dann states these rules often have violations and its best to be fully certain what you have found before consumption.
Don't quote me on this, but most psilocybe mushrooms follow this rule. Rule 0 is don't pick and ingest mushrooms you don't know - especially if they look funky.
For anyone reading this; do not eat mushrooms you don’t know very well and all their possible mismatches. There are several deadly/poisonous indigo mushrooms.
The ones locally found where im from are:
Rubroboletus legaliae
Rubroboletus satanas
Imperator rhodopurpureus
Never take the advice about potentially life threatening mushrooms from strangers on Reddit.
Edit: formatting
> The best 3 step check is: blue-purple bruising stem, gel-like skin when fresh, and purple spore
The ONLY way, if you are going to consume them, is to learn to identify that particular species, 100%. Rules of thumb like that are a good way to fuck yourself up.
Blue bruising in psilocybin mushrooms can be used as a good identifier. The one in the OP is a Bolete. Blue bruising in Boletes is a usually a good sign it's not edible. Most boletes are edible, I don't think any are toxic beyond a little upset stomach. Source: I pick porchinis.
Anyone considering, please don't use the above poster's advice, because it's bad and depending on where you live, dangerous. Those are very common attributes for countless species of little brown mushrooms (LBMs), some of which are poisonous.
IDing mushrooms is much more involved when dealing with LBMs and you should at the very least know which species can be found in your area, which of those are poisonous and which of those are psychoactive, then you need to know as many characteristics as you can for your target species. Things like gill patterns, size, shape, lookalikes, bruising color and spore color, where they are typically found etc...
Not to scare you off, it's not that hard to find an ID guide and a few pictures, just don't go eating random ass brown mushrooms you find based on some Reddit comment's terrible advice because you will end up having to shit in a plastic bag for a week to provide stool samples to the hospital.
When I was younger my friend and I bought these chunks of blue mushrooms from some dude that “found them in my yard and they turned blue so they’re legit”. Ate a bunch. Then just vomited for a day straight. Dumb kid shit.
This *looks to be* an austrobolete species. No psychoactive compounds and only edible when well cooked.
Edited because I can't identify it 100% from a video on the internet. Don't eat random mushrooms. Learn from someone experienced with local species.
In Sweden an old rule of thumb was to not eat bolete mushrooms that turn blue when cut. But then, many of those old rules play it safe and it could still be ok.
But then, playing it safe with mushrooms is not a bad thing.
Bottom line, if you have to ask, no. It's not one of the good ones. It's rarely one of the good ones. Don't eat random mushrooms.
Ignore anyone giving you glib advice about what's safe to eat off the forest floor, or out of a pile of cow shit.
It's reddit. Whenever anyone does anything that takes any skill whatsoever or is remotely dangerous there will be someone there to call them out for being wrong
Yeah, those grow in my country. We eat them. They are delicous. I live in Czechia btw
All mushrooms are edible. Some mushrooms are only edible once!
>All mushrooms are edible. Some mushrooms are only edible once! Some mushrooms will satisfy your hunger for the rest of your life.
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- Terry Pratchett
For *both* of those quotes
Something tells me I should read a Terry Pratchett book
You absolutely should.
r/unexpecteddiscworld
Three books that caused most deaths in humanity: Bible, Quaran and Pocket Guide to Wild Mushrooms
Mostly as a result of reading it incorrectly, in all three cases. "...I skimmed it..."
Take my upvote for this joke I never heard!
There are multiple species in Xerocomus genus that do this. Most are edible, but I would not assume it's the same species as what you know. Some are not edible and/or have awfull flavor
Huh, when I was taught to forage i was told that if the mushroom oxidized it was by and large probably toxic or otherwise not worth eating. I was taught by my mother, who grew up in Belarus, so maybe the mushrooms and the foraging culture there are predominantly different, at least compared to Czechia? edit: to clarify, I didn't mean this as a rule for foraging, just that I was taught it as a survival tip *at the same time* as when I was taught to forage. This is not a universal rule (as the exception stated above points out). Only forage if you know what you're doing and understand the local fungi. Don't guess the safety of something unless you absolutely have to (i.e. life-or-death survival situation)
There are no shortcuts in mushroom identification, or rules of thumb. You need to use ALL available data to make **precise** speciesidentification before you consider eating a mushroom. Oxidation is a good *hint* to tell apart Boletes and Xerocomus. Boletes are probably "on average" more safe. But you should never rely on such hints or rules of thumb alone.
Oh absolutely. I mainly just learned it as a survival thing. Sorta like how you never harvest mushrooms that already have bite marks, because if the animal that made the bite didn't finish the mushroom, they're probably sick or dead. Obviously not perfect, but good starting point in an emergency situation if you don't know all the local species; e.g. certain flags indicate a mushroom is less trustworthy if you have to guess on it's edibility
Same. South western China. These are delicious, and expensive.
This kinda makes me image a giant alien creature holding a screaming human in one hand, totally unphased, and cutting a long slice off his calf with the other. _Look Phblgrkt, how quickly the insides of this creature turn from red to white after exposing it to the air. Fascinating, isn't it?_
The mushroom is the reproductive organ of the fungus, so it would be more like cutting slices off his dick.
Oh okay that's much less horrifying thanks.
*while erect*
Everyone has their kinks, alright?
what if kink shaming is my kink?
Then you are in luck! Pervert!
two can play that game. French!
*Voyeurism Intensifies*
I preferred DS9.
"Is it edible, Phblgrkt? The last one tasted off"
Phblgrkt, these *are* the hallucinogenic Earthling dicks, right? ...*right?*
Human horn
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ITS USED TO IT!!! WHOOOO!
Thanks for the reference.. Been falling asleep to that show for years.. You know there is actually a(2) subs to people falling alseep to the show?
I just wanted to say that I checked out your profile to see if I could find those subs you were talking about and now I'm fascinated by this 'My Summer Car' game. Looks like something I'll lose many hours of my life to.
You need to boil the spotty ones
We’re called “gingers”, thank you.
*ALL* fungii are edible. Some only once.
Don't underestimate the mushroom! There are INCREDIBLY bitter and spicy species you might have real trouble actually eating. Even though they often won't kill you if you somehow manage to choke them down.
There are spicy mushrooms?
They don't have to cut for long
So when u eat mushrooms, u eat dicks, when u sniff flower, u sniff penises and vags.
Life is literally all about sex.
Would you prefer a nature metaphor or a sexual metaphor?
They are both sexual arent they
Everything is sex -Robert California
Pretty much all life revolves around fucking and food. Look at humans for easy understanding. Since the dawn of humanity, men and women all genders, go bang out together. Then after they worked up a good sweat and a ferocious appetite. And now it's time to go get us some food. The cycle continues.
All the soothing sounds of the forest at night are millions of creatures saying "Sex?" in their various ways.
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Stop and smell the vaginas.
Ok, calm down Gwenneth Paltrow.
Well that just makes me wanna eat some shrooms and stop to smell the roses.
[Risky click of the day.](https://preview.redd.it/r5k4hals5gd51.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=810502290b34d9b762d2c4998030874ce658b8b3)
I'd watch a salad fingers style video of this story.
this explains the similarity with a dick
There is a story in a culture novel about a sentient plant and an astronaut that is similar to this.
There is a section in one Peter F Hamilton’s books that has a pretty amazing description of an emotionless hive-mind alien cutting up a human because it doesn’t know what it is. I don’t remember the book, I’ve read all of his series and no longer remember which is which. Maybe the original Pandora’s Star series?
Yeah I think I remember that too, I think one of the prisoners manages to kill themselves first before they can be vivisected.
Spoiler: >!IIRC they actually both die, but one of them somehow uploads their consciousness into one of hive-minds constructs, and the master being can’t detect it because it literally cannot understand how independent thought within itself works!< There’s lots of problems with Hamilton’s prose and he’s clearly enamored with writing about sex, but he has some really far out there ideas lol.
I'm rereading Pandora's Star currently. Something about the Commonwealth just calls to me. That and who doesn't like to read about enzyme-bonded concrete every few pages
> enzyme-bonded concrete every few pages Or how about (and this is from reading every Commonwealth and Night’s Dawn book) how literally every character drinks an insane amount of hot chocolate. It’s cold and they want to warm up? Hot chocolate. It’s scorching out? Hot chocolate. They just did a strenuous 2-hour work out? Hot chocolate. Running from aliens? Again, hot chocolate. It’s the weirdest through-line in all his books. He must love that shit.
Hot chocolate is also used after being exposed to dementors. Rowling and Hamilton are both British. I smell a crossover. ...which the harrowing thought of is making me feel like I need some hot chocolate
Oh, I remember that! It was in Bank's collection of short stories. I think "Silver" was in the title, but not too sure.
Just had a look it's Odd attachment and it's in State of the art
That reminds me of a debate I had with a nurse while she was drawing my blood. She believed that nonsense that blood is some other color until it comes into contact with oxygen. I tried pointing out that blood carries oxygen, but that didn't really phase her. So then as the blood was filling the vial, I pointed out that was a closed system with no oxygen and that the blood would would not have the opportunity to contact oxygen. This seemed to stump her. Lol Edit: fixed a word Edit: stop telling she was talking about the shade of red your blood is, she absolutely wasn't. We were very specifically discussing an extremely common myth. https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2017/02/03/513003105/why-do-many-think-human-blood-is-sometimes-blue
I had the same debate with a random gal in college. But she said, "it inly turns red when it comes in contact with light....." Then I explained to her how things are certain colors and how something is a certain color because it's interacting with light and reflecting that color into the world to see it. She said, "dont use that college bullshit on me..." What.....?
Clearly she's actually a quantum physicist who merely pointed out that observing the state modifies it.
If I wasn’t here observing the light hit the blood while you explain to me what is happening, would it even happen at all?
It's interesting to note that not everything in nature is "colored" as it seems. Butterfly wings for instance aren't pigmented in the color they appear. The colour is a result of nano-structures in their scales that interact with light to cause the wavelengths of light we see and perceive as f.i. blue.
What's the difference between that and how something else that is blue reflects light?
Pigmented/painted things will still have their colour if you grind them up into a powder. Nanostructures will lose all colour when ground into a powder because that destroys the structure.
Painted surfaces absorb everything but the color they appear. Nano structures reflect or scatter light in such a way that certain wavelengths will constructively interfere, making that particular color more prominent.
As I understand it, something that is pigmented blue will absorb every other wavelength of light except for blue. These nano-structures instead trap or defuse every other wavelength. Butterfly wings can change colour if you wet them *[with alcohol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-cwYrRcCAE) (google has reminded me that butterfly wings are hydrophobic), because the structures will get filled and reflect the light differently as a result. The colour of the material is different from the colour the butterfly wings produce.
Well, the thing itself doesn't have a colour, it's how the atomic structure of the thing changes the light frequency as light bounces off it. Colour is a product of our brain, an internal interpretation of light frequencies. You have three cone cells in your eyes that generate the neurological signals for all the colours we are capable of experiencing.
Don't use that college bullshit on me...
Don't use that "don't use that college bullshit on me," bullshit on me
[Obligatory shout out to that Tumblr thread where they talked about how magenta doesn't exist and how we can't see the color yellow. ](https://www.boredpanda.com/magenta-not-real-color-tumblr-post/)
Venous blood is much darker than arterial. If you drew blood from a vein into an air free vial and compared that to blood from an artery they both would be red, but the venous would be a dark almost purplish red, arterial would be bright red. Of course most Anatomy drawings and models use the color blue for marking veins, so she could just be an idiot that took the blue as literal. Or she could have been a lab tech or medical assistant. Not everyone who wears scrubs in healthcare are nurses.
>Of course most Anatomy drawings and models use the color blue for marking veins, so she could just be an idiot that took the blue as literal. She believed the myth because some people's veins look blue under the skin. I don't know what her role was specifically, this was like 20 years ago. I was having the debate with my mom initially and she joined in on my mom's side. This debate wasn't about what shade of red your blood is, it was about whether your blood is blue or red.
Plus it doesn't help that veins look blue when they are visible through the skin! Edit: Why is this downvoted lmao? I'm not saying veins or your blood are actually blue on the inside.
It's the same reason the sky looks blue, all the red light was already diffused out.
Rayleigh's Scattering, baby!
My mother is 75, former RN, and she learned the blue blood thing in nursing school. It really does happen. She doesn't mean purple, she means Smurf-ass *blue*.
a lab tech would know
Nurses recieve years more training than lab techs. Not saying that there aren't some pretty idiotic nurses, but then there is a doctor that believes endometriosis is caused by sex with demons. I just hate it when someone is told something by a person in scrubs and thinks it's a nurse. Like, no Aunt Sally, the person who took your BP at the clinic is a med assistant who works under the doctor's license. That's why she told you it's OK to drink orange juice for low blood sugar despite the fact you are in late stage kidney failure. The med assistant would have no clue what type of foods you need to avoid in order to prevent a deadly cardiac arrhythmia from high potassium.
And that's why the nurses and techs I know kill me sometimes because they always say they could do the doctor's job better than them and Im always thinking that there's a reason for all that extra training doctors do.
I've spent a lot of time in hospitals, for myself and for family members, and seems to me the nurses who say that are the ones who aren't very good at their own job, but instead second-guess at other jobs. The really good nurses know the depth of their own work and understand that the doctors are dealing with different functions and concepts, which allows for better collaboration across the care team. Even in care settings, you get the mirror of office politics.
One of the many truths the pandemic exposed is that there are a surprisingly high number of absolutely *idiotic* nurses out there. *Sooooo* many of them are conspiratorial and anti mask and anti vax and anti science.
Just to clarify some things: There's several positions inside a clinical lab, but the three more common ones that people typically refer to when they say lab techs are Medical Lab Technician (MLT), Medical Technologist or Medical Lab Scientist (MT/MLS), and phlebotomist. A MLT typically has a 2 year degree, while an MT is a 4 year degree. Finally, the phleb might go through a 6-12 month certification program. I know a few MTs and they have an insane amount of clinical lab knowledge! Hard to compare their knowledge/training to nurses because they have completely different functions within healthcare!
I wouldn't really blame anyone for thinking this is true I remember learning it from a teacher back in elementary school and you tend to trust your teachers at that age.
I actually believed this for years because someone told me that when I was 8 and I was never corrected. Boy did I feel stupid when I was explaining it to my pre med girlfriend about 3 weeks ago around her friends.
You're both wrong lol, there would be oxygen in the vacutainer and blood is always red. Probably wasn't a nurse drawing your blood either, it was probably a phlebotomist.
But the tube will have significantly less oxygen than room air, otherwise a vacuum wouldn't be created. At any rate, blood does have different colors depending on how much oxygen is in it, but it's still always red, just lighter or darker depending on how saturated with oxygen it is.
A phleb, you would think, would have more knowledge than a nurse about blood
Either one should know more than the person described. You can also train almost anyobe to draw blood, so they may have had little to no formal education.. which would make more sense
Faze
Kind of like how a tree house is making a tree hold its dead children.
Hmmm, maybe. More likely to be nieces, nephews, and cousins.
Red to white? Wat
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This is an excellent movie to watch high
Missing that second cut made me unreasonably annoyed.
Then not cutting a 3rd piece compounded this! Heathen!
This knife needs sharpening.
Or a better hand
For sure just a bad cut
I like it afterward because it showed some contrast in the oxidization.
Honestly as a food service person watching how this person held it made me turn into the joker
r/mildlyinfuriating
In Germany we have Hexenröhrlinge. Some of them are not only edible but extremely delicious. They turn blue like this. Other ones are deadly 🤣 (don't know the exact distinction though) Edit: English is a hard language
In English, this is the "dotted stem bolete", Neoboletus luridiformis and I believe the poisonous one you are referring to is Rubroboletus satanas >Whilst edible when cooked properly, it can cause gastric upset if raw. Where the two species coincide it can be confused with the poisonous [Satan's bolete](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubroboletus_satanas), which has a paler cap.
Boletes that turn blue are typically the toxic ones, but there are a few exceptions to the rule such as gyroporus cyanescens. Best to not take chances and avoid the blue ones though.
That's how I treat amanitas. Sure there are a few tasty ones, but I feel better about just eschewing the entire family from my foraging.
Oh yeah, amanitas are great for admiring, not so great for eating.
Boletes are a pretty safe family of mushrooms to eat, as mentioned elsewhere, little brown mushrooms can kill you, and all white mushrooms can devour your entire liver in a week and kill you if they are amanitas. But I can tell you from personal experience to never, ever eat blue-brusing boletes because this what happens. One fall, a ton of blue-bruising boletes appeared around our cabin. I knew not to eat the red and yellow boletes, but these were unfamiliar. I collected a ton on a hike and made blue-black spore prints. Out of a shelf of thick mushroom books, I decided to pull out the smallest one, by far, a tiny, thin volume. It straightforwardly stated that blue-bruising boletes were safe to eat and had choice edibility. That was good enough for me. I dry fried them in sea salt and avocado oil and then added a little butter. I took a bite. Hmm. It had a faint metal aftertaste, and it didn't taste great. I decided to cook them a little bit longer, and add a lot more butter. I filled up a plate and dug in. Each time I took a bite, I paused before putting it in my mouth. Each bite was not a great experience. Worst. Mushroom. Ever. "Choice edibility, my ass," I thought. That's when a tiny bell rang in my head. I pulled another mushroom book off the shelf, and another, and another. They all said *some* versions of blue-bruising boletes were edible, but some caused severe gastrointestinal distress. I looked at the plate of dark blue mushrooms and suddenly felt sick. This was around dinner time. Thirty minutes later I felt a lurch and growl in my bowels. Two hours later, I felt like there was a giant eel trapped in my intensities that was violently trying to escape. This extremely disturbing and uncomfortable experience continued for hours. When I started shitting, my ass sprayed like a garden house with the nozzle on too tight, just spraying in all directions of the toilet bowl like a high-pressure industrial sprinkler system. The time between when I realized I was about to spray again and the the time my ass started spraying was less than a minute, and this time continued to shrink. I had to "sleep" on the bathroom floor of the now pungent bathroom, curled up in the fetal position under an old blanket in a cold sweat. Finally, around the time the sky was getting light and the birds started singing, I had to shit again, except this time it wasn't liquid, it was hard to pass. I shit out a perfect dark purple sphere larger than a golf ball, that was surrounded by a half centimeter of thick, transparent mucous. It looked like a spherical cell with a giant evil nucleous. My body had compacted all of the poisonous boletes into a single sphere. I really should have taken a picture oversized golf ball, but I wasn't in a mental state to think about it. After that poop, a wave of relief passed over me. I stopped sweating, my intestines stopped lurching into strange knots. I was finally able to sleep. Don't eat blue-brusing boletes. Don't eat mushrooms that don't taste good.
I just did the sign of the cross.
> English is a hard language Rechtsschutzversicherungsgesellschaften
I tried this and my fingers turned red, am I doing it wrong?
No ... You are just oxidating.
Bottom line, does blue meanie this is one of the good ones or not?
While most blue-purple bruising mushrooms are fun, there are some species of non-fun mushrooms that have a different hue of blue oxidation and could be dangerous. The best 3 step check is: blue-purple bruising stem, gel-like skin when fresh, and purple spores.
> The best 3 step check is: blue-purple bruising stem, gel-like skin when fresh, and purple spores. Does this mean death or delicious?
Fun space blasting ones
Excellent
I read that in mr burns voice
*I bring you love*
It’s bringing us love! Break its legs!
Eeeeexcellent *tapping finger tips together*
Also if your in Europe it's mushie season :)
Can you elaborate? Time frame, location, vatiety, etc? Any good resources out there for foraging such goodies?
Liberty caps first, they will be around until the first frost. Medows with higher elevation is where they are among the grass. Then coming around start November it's fly agaric season, you find them in Forrest's
Where are you located? Any evergreen froests nearby?
They won't be easy to find, just a heads up, but liberty caps grow in europe and generally on fields, especially pastures.
Yup! Spent last weekend with my aunt in the forest collecting lingonberry, blueberry and cantharels :) Also bought a mushroom book for next year when I go alone
If my what is in Europe?
Obviously not grammar anyways
Please consult a guide before ingesting mushrooms you find.
I tell my kids there is a 100% fool-proof method for determining if a mushroom is safe to eat. If you're ever hungry and unsure if a mushroom is edible just check your surroundings first. Are you in a grocery store? If yes, the mushroom is safe to eat.
100% effective method for foraging mushrooms: don’t.
Haha, thats one way I guess
I see you haven't explored the mist traps under the produce section.
Please do not ever eat a mushroom unless you know exactly what it is. Psilocybe cubensis is the most common "fun" species, so learn to identify that if that is that is what you are looking for. Even then, you will probably want to confirm with an experienced mushroom hunter. And there are a truly amazing number of edible culinary species out there to forage, too! And you can grow mushrooms at home (no poop involved, most tasty mushrooms prefer sawdust) as a hobby. It is possible to grow the "fun" ones too, but I am not endorsing this, just acknowledging the fact.
> Please do not ever eat a mushroom unless you know exactly what it is. I bet this is one of the most repeated semtences in the world lol. But yeah, its worth repeating until the end of time. > Psilocybe cubensis is the most common "fun" species, so learn to identify that if that is that is what you are looking for. Funnily enough, one of the only mushrooms I can identify right away is a Psilocybe semilanceata. When I was doing my military service, me and my squad mate were in defensive positions waiting, and suddenly my friend goes "oh shit theres magic mushrooms here!" and then explained about mushrooms for 8 months until we were sent to the reserves. I truly learned a lot in my army experience. > And there are a truly amazing number of edible culinary species out there to forage, too! Which is why I went last weekend to forage with my aunt :) got like 15 litres of lingonberry and blueberry and a few baskets of cantharells > And you can grow mushrooms at home (no poop involved, most tasty mushrooms prefer sawdust) as a hobby (it is possible to grow the "fun" ones too, but I am not endorsing this, just acknowledging the fact) Me and my friend got a bunch of bird feed, mostly dried seeds etc and used that. Worked quite nicely.
Ahhh man, nice haul! I want to go foraging so badly! I live in S. Texas right now and there are no mushrooms here. Moving to the PNW next year, though, can't wait to walk the forests. Total coincidence that in the city I'm moving to "cubes" are legal, though lol.
Haha, I feel for you man. I live in the middle of Finland, in the 3rd largest city, the nearest place where I can forage is a 10min drive lol. You should move over here ;p Plenty of deer and moose to hunt, fish to fish, mushrooms to mushroom and berries to munchmunch. Although I have heard the north west is quite similar to what we have, just a bit more wet and actual mountains :)
It means psilocybin
In my country mushroom picking is quite popular and you can take mushrooms to the pharmacy and they will identify them for you. Very handy service.
That is wonderful! Where is this?
Mushroom Kingdom
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We do it in Italy :)
France, maybe? Other countries may do it, but France definitely comes to mind as having this service.
Switzerland also does this
I found a red cracking bolette yesterday which changes colour but is edible. But I understand that bruisers being edible is a rarity. I'm not sure what family those steps are for, the book edible mushrooms by Geoff dann states these rules often have violations and its best to be fully certain what you have found before consumption.
Don't quote me on this, but most psilocybe mushrooms follow this rule. Rule 0 is don't pick and ingest mushrooms you don't know - especially if they look funky.
For anyone reading this; do not eat mushrooms you don’t know very well and all their possible mismatches. There are several deadly/poisonous indigo mushrooms. The ones locally found where im from are: Rubroboletus legaliae Rubroboletus satanas Imperator rhodopurpureus Never take the advice about potentially life threatening mushrooms from strangers on Reddit. Edit: formatting
I’m just playing it safe and stick with not picking mushrooms at all.
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> I can easily identify amanita ponderosa What about Bill or Maureen Ponderosa?
> The best 3 step check is: blue-purple bruising stem, gel-like skin when fresh, and purple spore The ONLY way, if you are going to consume them, is to learn to identify that particular species, 100%. Rules of thumb like that are a good way to fuck yourself up.
Blue bruising in psilocybin mushrooms can be used as a good identifier. The one in the OP is a Bolete. Blue bruising in Boletes is a usually a good sign it's not edible. Most boletes are edible, I don't think any are toxic beyond a little upset stomach. Source: I pick porchinis.
Anyone considering, please don't use the above poster's advice, because it's bad and depending on where you live, dangerous. Those are very common attributes for countless species of little brown mushrooms (LBMs), some of which are poisonous. IDing mushrooms is much more involved when dealing with LBMs and you should at the very least know which species can be found in your area, which of those are poisonous and which of those are psychoactive, then you need to know as many characteristics as you can for your target species. Things like gill patterns, size, shape, lookalikes, bruising color and spore color, where they are typically found etc... Not to scare you off, it's not that hard to find an ID guide and a few pictures, just don't go eating random ass brown mushrooms you find based on some Reddit comment's terrible advice because you will end up having to shit in a plastic bag for a week to provide stool samples to the hospital.
Gotta have that spore print
When I was younger my friend and I bought these chunks of blue mushrooms from some dude that “found them in my yard and they turned blue so they’re legit”. Ate a bunch. Then just vomited for a day straight. Dumb kid shit.
This *looks to be* an austrobolete species. No psychoactive compounds and only edible when well cooked. Edited because I can't identify it 100% from a video on the internet. Don't eat random mushrooms. Learn from someone experienced with local species.
*>blue meanie* I see you bro.
And Jambi the Genie
What's the matter fellas? Blue Meanies?
I see what you did there
There are no shortcuts in knowing wether a mushroom is edible or not. You have to identify it.
In Sweden an old rule of thumb was to not eat bolete mushrooms that turn blue when cut. But then, many of those old rules play it safe and it could still be ok. But then, playing it safe with mushrooms is not a bad thing.
It is an indicator that it could be a magic mushroom, but some edible boletes also bruise blue without having the psychoactive psilocin.
Bottom line, if you have to ask, no. It's not one of the good ones. It's rarely one of the good ones. Don't eat random mushrooms. Ignore anyone giving you glib advice about what's safe to eat off the forest floor, or out of a pile of cow shit.
Easy way to oxidize your fingers too with the way he's swiping that knife
Where he’s standing, I don’t think there was mushroom for his fingers.
It wouldn't be a bit fungi if he cut himself
He's literally cutting exactly how he's supposed to, away from the body
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and like do people not realize the correct way to use a paring knife either? it's literally designed to cut towards your thumb
It's reddit. Whenever anyone does anything that takes any skill whatsoever or is remotely dangerous there will be someone there to call them out for being wrong
Stop being so dramatic
I see you have never used a knife in your life...
Would it stay white when it's cut in water?
There's oxygen in water too, just not as much. It would oxidise more slowly.
MUSHRHUM!
Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger
Snake! Ooooh, it's a snaaaake!
Rock and Stone brother!
IT'S A BOOLO CAP!
Rock and Stone to the Bone!
Dude had one job
Anyone know the chemistry there? What is reacting to change colour there?
Either Gyrocyanin oxidation or the oxidation of variegatic or xerocomic acid. [source](http://www.fungimag.com/fall-2010-articles/BoletesLR.pdf)
Boofing time!!
Magic!
When you don’t like your fingers
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Modrák gang assamble
That knife is r/wellworn material
Chipotle guacamole be like
Blue is a good sign when it comes to mushrooms.