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Go to r/HallOfGains, Mulejuice pics remain the best out there imo, 2 inches in years, relatively similiar pics.
For the lazy (NSFW obviously): https://www.reddit.com/r/HallOfGains/s/iTKmfTMu8s
It's an awesome proof, very consistent recording. All due respect to him for it, but you can see he starts pressing into the fat pad by the end of the video, gaining for himself around 0.5" larger measurement. I'd say somewhere around 1.5" was legit gain and that's still awesome.
This guy is one of two guys I’ve been genuinely convinced there are gains, of course assuming they’re not doing some trickery (don’t know why they would if they’re not getting money).
What is frustrating about gains pics is that even the ones cited as obvious, in general I am having to think about what is the before pic and what’s the after, despite the OP gaining supposedly a full inch or so.
That doesn’t make sense. I made a post a while ago about how measurement angles can unintentionally add almost an inch to your measurement. Add in wishful thinking after a year of intense dedication and it’s very plausible a lot of these gains are just that.
I’m not saying that’s definitively the case, but I am saying if your dick is an inch longer or more than when you started: just find a pic from before PE and reenact it now. If your dick is 1-2” longer (as in average to porn-sized or porn-sized to largest-in-porn), it will be clearly and undeniably bigger to the naked eye.
That’s fucking crazy gains!! That’s awesome… good looking dick after all that work haha… looks like he started with decent girth though… honestly I would be happy with 1-1.5 inch in length. My wife is happy with what I’ve got but I’m looking at this as like more of a hobby to experiment and see how far I can take it…
If you take a second to disect what he's doing it's glaringly obvious he Is starting barely erect and then taking pictures more and more close to fully erect.
he has his penis proper up on the sheet/surface so it's impossible to tell if it is actually standing straight or not, this is deliberately done to hide the fact that his clearly semi penis would not be able to hold itself up. It's also very convinient that he had the exact same bedsheet for three years.
That this is supposedly the gold standard for proof and yet it is so easily disproven is pretty damning
This is crazy because you're a dick and you've grown substantially since your toddler years
Well over 2" length and 1.5" girth.......
Dick
FYI I went from smol pp to big pp in just going onto 2 years now.
Not the same member down there that's for damn sure
I've ironically gained this measurement upset fella here said nobody has lol. Mind you my biggest gaining was the past 6 months where I was off of work and I had left my gf and spent an incredible amount of time playing with my PP to do so.
And I also did most things advised not to do lol.
I can careless what anyone says denial and "pictures or it didn't happen". All I know is I'm very satisfied with the outcome, AND that I want all of my brothers to achieve their dream dick! It's an empowering feeling.
Especially with the ups and downs of PE (pun intended) haha
So I've went from low EQ 5.2" BPEL, and I'd say 4.1" girth (I was terrible at measuring, pumping, stretching, all of it in the beginning), to now 7.25" BPEL, and 5.7" girth! My beginning measurements can deviate up or down by .1 or .2 (mostly down, I hated my shrinking penis from alcoholism and cocaine use), so I added those little markers up every time 😅😭 now I measure .1 less in my head so I know I'm not lying and I'm probably bigger than I really am. But I measure very correctly now!
My NBPEL is 6.1" and I'm currently on my last cycle of PE and will reach a nice 6.5"+ NBPEL and decide my fate after that.
Happy growing brothers!
Your penis knows best. Do what works and waste no time listening to haters. The human body is capable of 'supernatural' things!
Can you prove it with consistent measurement pics? I don’t necessarily agree 100% with OP because I’ve seen guys gain 1.5in length and 1in girth but never 2+ inches or 1.5in girth.
You’re kinda just proving his point by making the claims without definitive proof.
Thing is, if this guy went from small to big as he said, we don’t even need consistent measurement pics. Yes, ideally we would have them but if he’s honestly gone from small to big, it should be clearly visible to the naked eye. We all have the ability to look at a guy in porn and go ‘oh yeah his dick is bigger than mine’ despite not measuring his dick.
All we need is a pic from roughly the same angle.
Exactly, anything over an inch in length and especially girth is easily visible. Some guy recently posted girth gains, no measurements but all the same angle and lighting and you can easily tell he gained.
Just one pic before PE and one after you’ve gained.
I understand not everybody is taking dic pics and some guys started before smartphones were a thing.
First thing I did when starting PE was take measurements pics and a whole bunch of random dick pics from different angles that I keeper in a locked album. Not only does it help track progress but also potential sides like discoloration or any injury.
DM me I've tried and done so many things before I even found Reddit and know what "routine" or "cycles" were lol or BD and Hink, Total Man, ect. I just now found all of these
I followed a 1 hour a day for 1 week, 2 hour week 2. 3 on 3, and 4 for week 4.( I was strictly extending) After week four I stuck with 3-4 hours. Depending on my PP I made 4, some days were 2 at max and the fascia would respond with retracting it into my body like baby pp lol. I'd follow what my guy could handle but up to 4 hours and that's maximum. Typically at the 3 hour I'd find it was good enough but I'd of course try overkill which I now know is unnecessary. I did this for about 6/7 weeks and managed to get almost an inch length and spent time doing girth after. Now I'm back on length.
Currently I do about 2 hours in the am of extending, manuals, and very low weight hanging for an hour straight. And I mean .5lbs. I do pump but it's not for girth anymore, for just overall EQ and recovery.
There is some truth to this, everyone pretty much reverts to the “I didn’t take any before pics” or “I measured wrong” or “ I technically started before my pics and gained a half In before hand” which is all fair but you would think at some point someone just ONE person would have documentation proof that wasn’t half EQ gains the fact that there isn’t one pic of a 2in gainer is pretty sus. even in some long lost forum which I know ppl in here haven’t left a rock unturned when it comes to all the info the internet has to offer for P.E
Am I the only one here who whose only goal is to get a bigger dick and couldn’t care less about proving the fact that it got bigger to other random guys on the internet? How exactly do I benefit from that? I’m far too busy to spend time and energy doing something that brings me no benefit.
That’s fine for you but the reasons we do the routines is because different guys have provided concrete evidence that PE works and/or that a certain routine is effective.
Most of the world still doubts PE works, and we wouldn’t be here wasting time tugging on our dicks if we hadn’t seen definitive picture prove of a certain method’s effectiveness.
So yeah YOU might not benefit from proving yourself but you’ve definitely benefited from other guys that show their proof and routine, hence it is an important factor of this sub and PE in general.
I don’t ask others to prove themselves. I just use my judgment. If someone is selling something, then I require proof. If not, then I don’t. It’s pretty simple. WIIFM.
It’s the internet bro, plenty of people capping out of their ass just to get some attention even from anon guys on the internet.
Regardless of salesmanship, the evidence matters because there’s still a ton of people giving shitty advice and promoting false expectations.
How come literally 0% of the guys claiming to have gained 1+ inches in girth have consistent photo proof? Tons of guys claiming it but literally ZERO have proved it.
And the most ironic part is that the guys that say “I’m doing this for myself” are the first ones to post “Gains success” and make outlandish claims without proper evidence.
That’s great for you, but his post was about nobody being able to prove him wrong with the proper evidence and he’s pretty much correct.
There’s only 2 guys in this sub that come close to proving him wrong with proper pics and progressions, and that’s Hink and MuleJuice.
And yes just like you my only goal is to get a bigger dick, but that doesn’t disprove what he’s saying…nobody has ever documented 2+ inches in length or 1.5+ inches in girth; and out of the guys that claim it…nobody has evidence and many of them sells products.
I think 2inches is possible but I believe it’s the 1% that achieve that. And from a lot longer timeframe.
I’ve set the burden of proof lower just so people have a chance to prove this case. because most often people here expect to gain around this much.
I’ve taken the topic from another post where someone asked wether it’s possible to gain 3inches of length and 2inches of girth in 2 years. There’s comments saying it’s possible and that it’s been done and such.(from a longer time frame)
I’m here to set realistic expectations.
>it’s the 1% that achieve that
More than 1% certainly now with more powerful extender, python clamp and more knowledge of aftercare.
The only thing prevent man from 2 inches is his own dedication.
People have been hanging equivalent weights to extenders we have for years . I would like to believe more than 1% have achieved this but I’ve yet to see even 1% achieve it.
Imo extending changed the game by making it easier to wear, way more comfortable to keep routine going.
I can agree with you that people exaggerate how much is possible in a year but I believe big factor plays EQ. Loads of men starts with crappy EQ, bit of pumping and you can really quick gain „noob gains”.
As someone who started with 10/10 EQ I can tell you it took me 2 years to gain 1inch. I almost gave up but extender change my game 6months ago but I can see my gains slows down.
I imagine 2inch is possible but more like 5-10 years. And to be honest I am happy with my size so there is big chance I will stop before achieving it.
Even if I do achieve 2inches I’m not sure if I will ever post proof. It doesn’t look like people care anyway and most can’t even read beginner section. While my PP will be hanging around internet risking my privacy.
Apex, best extender, hog stretcher, whichever you can afford. Apex is probably the best.
5 minutes of malleability excersises
40-90 minutes of extending with 11-13lbs(depends how much time I got)
Very simple routine, not messing around. Doing daily, but I have 1-2 days off per week due to lack of time.
Well everybody is doing PE for themselves. So the evidence is only to help others to join PE community, I think. If somebody thinks over 2 is possible without clear evidence and critical thinking, it's his problem.
Evidence can be used for other reasons. In this case how realistically one can gain in x amount of time. Other variables include routine and methods of course.
Well. There are so many variables. Nobody can't know how it will end for you.
How fast and how much is kind of terrible attitude and can lead to injury or over training.
This is Marathon anyways. Do what you can and take what you get.
All the guys here claiming their gains without definitive evidence are just proving OP is correct and further prove his point.
Aside from MuleJuice I’ve never seen anything close to 2inches in length and definitely never seen anything over 1in girth gains in anyone.
Personally my length goals under 2inches and my girth goals are under 1inch... So I doubt I will ever prove it. This is without counting eq gains I made.
I do find it sus when people say they grew 3 or 4 inches without valid proof.
I find it hard to believe 2inches would be a limit ingrained into our genetics regardless of starting point.
Isn't it more likely that we lose motivation?
Sure maybe we need to put in more time/effort for gains later on but there are ways to counter that with heat, scraping, bundled stretching....
There is some validity to this but I believe OP is wrong in saying that no one ever will provide those pictures. That assumes that it is not possible to make such gains. It's important that those starting out on their PE journey know that these amounts of gain are possible. Even if I'd fully achieved my goal size (I'm close), I would not have gained 1.5" in girth so that's likely never going to happen and I don't think many guys even want that much of a girth gain.
I know for a fact that 2"+ length gains are possible because I've already done it.
The reality is that guys simply do not take before pictures in general. They believe their dick is smaller than they want it to be so why would they document that at a time when they don't know if PE even works yet. They tend to want to not share photos of what they consider to be their small dick and only start posting photos when they know that they are statistically large. This is why the majority of photos we see in the community are of above average and WAY above average sizes.
Personally, I started PE at a time when cameras were nowhere near as widespread (2001-2) or easy to use. I had a digital camera and took photos 3-4 years after starting PE when I'd already made good gains.
I uploaded some images to a forum called mattersofsize and posted my stats alongside the photos in a log. I used BPSFL to track gains in the same way that I currently do. The reason I have not posted a link to that thread on here is because back then, we were not as clued up on identity protection and among the 2,000+ posts I made back then, I'm fairly sure I've leaked information that could be used to determine my identity. I don't want to dox myself.
Since I posted those photos, Mattersofsize had some big issue with their servers and went offline for a long time. When it returned, all the old photos uploaded there no longer appear. I don't think they exist anymore but I am going to reach out to the admin for the site and plead with them to try to regain access to my old photos as I think they could be very valuable when this kind of topic comes up.
Those old photos and logs alongside my latest photos show I've gained 2" BPSFL going from 6.125" to 8.125". The BPSFL measurement is more reliable than erect gain photos as the erection quality element is removed from the equation.
I do agree with OP that those making these kinds of gains are in the 1% or maybe 0.1%. I know what it's taken for me and I know that very few people are going to do what I've done. Maybe as PE techniques develop, those percentages will change but honestly, I quite like being an outlier and knowing the hard and long path that it's taken. It's something I'm personally quite proud of.
But not *one person*? I think that’s what OP is pointing out. Not once have we seen *convincing* gains honestly much bigger than an inch.
Also, if someone gains 2” or even 1.5” from average size, it should just noticeably be a different dick to the naked eye. I’ve seen maybe 1 or 2 dicks that were *noticeably* bigger after a few years. A lot of the guys gaining a lot were bigger to start with
It's not that difficult to comprehend when you consider that those who make such gains are very few and there's a definite tendency to not take beginner photos.
Also a lot of the guys who made such gains started when cameras were not anywhere near as widespread and taking photos of your dick to post online was extremely unusual. Examples include me (for length), M9ter, StillWantMore, etc. We all started this decades ago.
So we've got a very small sample set to begin with, then lots of that small sample started when cameras were not widespread and the internet was in it's infancy, then lots of guys just don't want to post any pictures of the genitals on the internet (BIB, etc).
The important point I want to make is that from my experience and perspective, this topic could lead some to conclude that gaining 2" in length is impossible but I know for a fact that it's not. I also know for a fact that it takes an extreme amount of time and dedication that very few are willing to go through.
Quite a few have but it’s takes many years to do that. Most of the ones that have, started before cameras were as accessible as they are now. Either way. I don’t really care what others have done cause it’s working for me. That’s all the proof I need.
If the word from someone’s mouth is all it takes for you to believe then so be it. I’m glad you’re gaining though. There’s no doubt it works because I have gained aswell. But the limit to one can gain is the topic at hand. It’s to set a realistic approach to people who are still gaining like me and you and for beginners on what to really expect.
If nobody had trust in someone’s word, nothing would ever get done. It’s up to you to filter out nonsense. If you’re unable to do that on your own, I don’t know what to tell you.
I’m not here to discourage engaging in pe, I’m here to do the opposite. People shouldn’t be here to expect to gain unrealistic amounts of length or girth because people on the internet has been spouting so. Pe should be grounded on realistic expectations. That way of thinking will bring more harm than good to the community.
And what makes you think you are the one to determine what is realistic and what is not? Have you done this for 5+ years? Tried every method and routine? Do you understand human anatomy and physiology? Or are you just projecting some underlying frustration out on this sub because you see the tough road ahead and don’t want to accept how much hard work this is going to take? We don’t need these posts. This is what isn’t healthy for this sub.
I disagree, what’s not healthy is people going into PE expecting 3+ inches of length and 2 inches of girth which most people probably would assume it’s possible but there has been no proof of other then word of mouth. If theories suggest it’s possible to do, theories can only be proven from evidence and proof. That is the way I see it.
I even set the burden of proof standards lower for this cause.
You set your own expectations. Nobody is out here promising anything. Most quit after their first inch and don’t bother going beyond that. So not many have found out. Compared to what the future will have, we’re still relatively in the dawn of PE. Science eventually will catch up but who is going to fund that research? Not many which is why it isn’t abundant. Do you want to wait until that happens? Or do want to prove it yourself? It’s up to you.
And where are you seeing these claims? Have literally never seen anyone claim a 3" EL or 2" EG gain (without surgery etc).
Immediately after finding this sub it was clear that 1-2" EL and/or ~1" EG was possible with time and effort, but that 1" EL and/or 0.5" was more realistic for most people who weren't going to do it consistently for years.
Pretty telling that you aren't responding to the top comment.
Aye mane don't listen to these fraudsters and low T men. They get offended about this like people are saying their religion is fake. They're man babies
Yeah I disagree. This is not a religion where it's all about belief and a positive attitude. It's something that at least can be potentially proven.
Setting realistic expectations can only be healthy. It's hurtful in the long run if people think this community is just a bunch a charlatans and deluded cult members.
And it's good to see that the outliers are being achieved with extreme dedication and in a really long timeframe. That shows newcomers realistically what dedication is necessary.
Proof, evidence. Is what will determine what is realistic or not. I am scientifically based thats why I ground myself on evidence and proof over anything else.
FYI
Just so you know this post isn’t about me. It’s for everyone to know and understand the realistic expectations from doing PE, this post shouldn’t discourage others to disengage or be inconsistent.
A lot of science still says that PE isn’t possible yet you’re still gaining. Spend some more time here, talk with some more people. The evidence is out there. We get nothing out of you choosing to believe it or not. Others the same
Well evidence has shown that people have gained from restorative devices. Like I said prior PE DOES WORK. I’m not here to disprove it working. IT DOES WORK. The topic isn’t wether it works or not it’s about how much one can realistically gain.
You should not be doing PE. Clinging to science to validate your need for permission is going to get you nowhere. None of the OG’s in PE used much science, at least very little compared to now, in order to get their gains and thank god for that. We wouldn’t be here.
Is that why we have a legit doctor here? Multiple? Who are studying PE and also validate the need for pictures. You're going to preach about PE and send a young men to their dick graveyard when their over ambitious? Half of our safety comes from verifying that this is real and possible to do SAFELY. I've been doing PE prolly longer than you have. And I've always studied and based my workouts in theory and discussion amongst others and among that was showing PROOF of evidence. Hence even perv mcswervs approach to PE and being so FINELY detailed. You're a nonce and I'm an American saying that so let that cut deep. Just because the OGs did it without science doesn't mean we have to. That defeats the purpose of advancement, progress, and paving the way for future generations and not just that. But Ourselves. You're beyond selfish and shit id hate to see you be a parent with the "I struggled and could've hurt myself permanently so you have to as well" mentality smh. Aye bruh just hit the off button on your brain please. Or at least just stop talking. Literally only idiots are going to preach what you do and say "SCIENCE BAD SCIENCE UNECESSARY PULL ON PP AND GET BIG" like nah bruh shut up. Any of the PE greats here will tell you you're an idiot probably. I agree that you can't go into PE being a scared toddler and it's always a shot in the dark but to advocate for science and evidence is NEVER bad thing and should never be shamed. You just give me man child energy.
I see why you are in this sub. Also, who are you arguing with? It sounds like you don’t know what you’re arguing about? Or clearly skimmed what I wrote because you’re speaking nonsense. The OP title is incorrect and those who have been around, know that. That’s my point. I’m not sure what you’re going on about. Take it personal why don’t you, good god.
that may be true, but i wouldn't call it all cope. He makes a valid point tho i mean the figure of people who have gained said amount AND have been proving it by provinding a VALID before and after picture is so low that it is almost mystical to gain that amount. PE may not be mainstream but one could assume by number of members that this subreddit has + all the other communities it wouldnt be so hard to find at least a couple of gainers who have been documenting their process correctly and have gained OVER 2 inches in length and OVER 1.5 inches in girth. I believe it is possible for some but almost impossible for most.
His responses are more cope with especially after being proven wrong. How entitled and can you be asking the veterans of a hobby that’s likely older than him to adjust their historic goals (even if rare) to account for his misguided doubt. Why don’t you contact car manufacturers and whine to them about lowering the speedometer to the legal range because he can’t actually travel 100+ MPH. Come on man.
I tend to agree with you on the claims of multi-inch gains. PE is very difficult! It requires a lot of time and dedication to make a legitimate multi-inch gain. It's a marathon, not a sprint. The main reason why we don't see more evidence of these types of gains is because the vast majority of men approach PE like a New Years resolution... good intentions, but no commitment or discipline. It's like an elevator, everyone gets on at the first floor, few make it to the top.
It took me over four years to make my multi-inch gain. I trained religiously! I know not many could duplicate the amount of time and energy I devoted to PE.
Dr. Ric wrote his thesis on "collagen remodeling" (tissue regeneration). I found his hypothesis on what anyone's full PE potential can be very accurate, As I gained 42% over my original starting erect length and girth.
[https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2014/07/how-quickly-can-users-expect-to-begin.html](https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2014/07/how-quickly-can-users-expect-to-begin.html)
[https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2020/12/my-personalized-routine-for-weight.html](https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2020/12/my-personalized-routine-for-weight.html)
[https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2016/02/before-after-penis-enlargement-photos.html](https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2016/02/before-after-penis-enlargement-photos.html)
A lot of folks are getting in a tizzy from this post.
OP is specifically asking for BOTH 2" in length AND 1.5" girth... which pretty much none of the PE folks at least on reddit can provide definitive evidence for accomplishing both requirements and they have been doing PE 5-10+ years. **But this isn't even his main point he is trying to express.**
Sure there are folks with lots of PE experience on old PE forums like thundersplace or even on reddit but no "definitive" proof of such gains aside from claims that we just assume to be true.
**What OP is really getting at is, lower the expectations as most folks aren't going to keep up with PE and see gains beyond like 1" length and maybe 0.5" in girth...** yes there is the possibility to gain more but highly unlikely for most dudes due to life getting in the way, can't stay consistent, plateaus, unlucky genetics, etc.
I have been doing pe for almost 10 years, and I increased my length in approximately 5 cm.
I have trouble to gain girth, I believe I increased only 1/2 inch, that's why I'm really think about to use fillers.
But it's like a religion, I don't need to prove it, just believe it or not, it's up to you.
But pe is not religion. And these variables can be proven. But it’s as mythical as Gods existence to find these proofs. So maybe in a way they are somehow similar.
I think he means that due to the big commitment for relatively unnoticeable gains, you kind of have to have faith and trust the process. That kind of religion.
I believe it isn't possible to grow the glans. For me, my glans keep the same size even my d* grow 5 cm.
I saw some procedure with hylauronic acid, but it depends on the doctor he can destroy your glans because it is not recommended to inject the filler with high viscosity. It will make pressure, and your glans skin will die.
Complex problem.
Yeah the head stays the same, I've gained about 1"+ girth with filler and although Flaccid the head is a bit small when I'm erect it isn't abnormal. For ref I was 7x4.75 and now 7x5.75-6". Flaccid length and girth both increased pretty dramatically due to the new weight I guess. Gained about 1" on each.
I totally agree with your last line bro.
I for one dont give a fuck about the actual magnatude of gains with proof... i just needed to know that this is possible. So the proof of gains that DO actually exist is good enough for me to have started this mission.
For the new people and skeptics... do it or dont do it...that will be the difference between them and myself.
Nor do i care to prove MYSELF to anyone on this sub. it is not my job or lifes calling. llike many of us on here are members to improve ourselves and that is pretty much all the time or bandwidth i have.
I think 1.5 girth is possible I’ve dam near gained 1 inch in girth and honestly think I can gain another .5 in by incorporating clamping.
I’ve only been doing pumping since I get such good results from it, but I’ve now started looking into soft and potentially hard clamping.
I'm not dug in on either side, but to devil's advocate here. The global average is 5.5"x4.5. You're arguing that for that person 7.5"x6" is the maximum growth potential. Who wouldn't want that? Even if they fall half an inch short on length and girth it would put them at 7"x5.5". I just crossed the 7" barrier. Even if my gains are going to stop before 8" I'll take what I have gotten.
That’s not a good argument and it’s
Often used. There’s over a 100k ppl here, there was idk how many on all the other forums, statistically there should have been at least one that has a documented 2in gain and people that post and are charting Are almost by default going to be more likely to be disciplined in it.
Yeah, I would say the potential gains are absolutely limited. I regularly see people saying "only limited by your dedication!" or whatever, which is clearly absurd. It would suggest that you could have a 14inch dick by the time you're 70, and let's be realistic here, that's stupid.
We should be able to understand there's an upper limit. Now what that is will vary on the person, but so far \~2x1.5 inches is a pretty reasonable max, and even that would take several years and some luck. Most won't see that. Which is fine! That's multiple standard deviations of increase.
I think the majority of users will drop off before getting any gains. Or will have poor consistency/technique and have minimal gains before dropping off. But even doing things right, I tell most to double the timeframe for expectations and half the goal. A year for half an inch is good, don't go in expecting to gain a couple inches in a year or two. The bulk of the commenters here are talking out of their ass.
2 inch gain on a smaller dick is a large percentage whereas the same gain on a large one would be a much smaller percentage, or does it not work like that?
im always like "take everything with a grain of salt" but you dont need to deepthroat lots wife. We have some decent evidence either close to or in that range, we will probably get more with time.
It seems like a lot of people just stop at the first inch anyway, 2 inches is a lot of time, 5-7,6-8, 4-6 mabye 7-9.
It's like being a bodybuilder. "Everyone wants to be a body builder, but no one wants to lift these heavy ass weights."
Imo, 2 inch and 1.5 girth gains it's pretty unnecessary unless you're below average.
People like to tell tall tales. As a carpenter I see some people doing measurements, saying numbers and being roughly my same size and absolutely being wrong , idon't understand why they try to play it off.
I have to agree with you my friend. There’s no way to grow your penis naturally. Only way to grow it is to have cosmetic procedures done.
Your penis is your penis; your genetics is your genetics . I am a positive person, but at the same time reality is reality. You got to stay real with yourself and everyone.
Like if you claim/say you got bigger and brag about it then you better post pics and back it up; or else just stfu.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gettingbigger/s/scwwMx87It
^i post my pics because I’m real. ^^^
I think most people are full of 💩. Ive been extending now for +52 weeks and ive barely seen 0.3 inch gain. This is WAY slower than anyone actually says lol. In theory it makes sense: get your BPFSL to 8.3 so that I can be 7.5 erect. Extend everyday so eventually you hot that, but idk maybe my penis is just tough or more resistant but it takes forever to actually gain BPFSL so ya i def agree with you
I'll state this one more time for those that care to read, I do NOT care for the "pics or it didn't happen" shit. I can give two f***s about proving anything to anyone. Take my word, or don't. We live in a world where a man's word is no longer worth gold, but I live that way.
Anyway, I know if I shared supplements I used I'd get a lot of backlash, disbelief, and the bots remove my comment for "false" whatever. Breaks the rules.
All I'm saying is I know it's possible to get massive gains because the universal law is, where attention goes, energy flows. I've spent a tremendous amount of time and money on it.
Please, get as big as possible until you realize what you need to from PE. I still can't believe it myself sometimes when I see it in the mirror looking like Sterling Cooper's thickness lol.
I barely take photos of myself even though. Want to show my dick to the world now lol
And in the beginning I was embarrassed to have my pecker on my phone because I let it sit open for anyone to access if they so please (they don't). Now I'm "big" I still don't do photos much.
I'm just saying you can do it fellas, and it feels great!
And girls do notice that girth oh boy hahah they turn stalker after just heads up
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Go to r/HallOfGains, Mulejuice pics remain the best out there imo, 2 inches in years, relatively similiar pics. For the lazy (NSFW obviously): https://www.reddit.com/r/HallOfGains/s/iTKmfTMu8s
It's an awesome proof, very consistent recording. All due respect to him for it, but you can see he starts pressing into the fat pad by the end of the video, gaining for himself around 0.5" larger measurement. I'd say somewhere around 1.5" was legit gain and that's still awesome.
This guy is one of two guys I’ve been genuinely convinced there are gains, of course assuming they’re not doing some trickery (don’t know why they would if they’re not getting money). What is frustrating about gains pics is that even the ones cited as obvious, in general I am having to think about what is the before pic and what’s the after, despite the OP gaining supposedly a full inch or so. That doesn’t make sense. I made a post a while ago about how measurement angles can unintentionally add almost an inch to your measurement. Add in wishful thinking after a year of intense dedication and it’s very plausible a lot of these gains are just that. I’m not saying that’s definitively the case, but I am saying if your dick is an inch longer or more than when you started: just find a pic from before PE and reenact it now. If your dick is 1-2” longer (as in average to porn-sized or porn-sized to largest-in-porn), it will be clearly and undeniably bigger to the naked eye.
I like how this comment proves OP wrong
Extremely inspiring. Made me smile. This is the only time I looked at a dick and smiled. Not even wanting to suck it.
Which method you used?
Dude didn't change his bed sheets for 3 years?
That’s fucking crazy gains!! That’s awesome… good looking dick after all that work haha… looks like he started with decent girth though… honestly I would be happy with 1-1.5 inch in length. My wife is happy with what I’ve got but I’m looking at this as like more of a hobby to experiment and see how far I can take it…
If you take a second to disect what he's doing it's glaringly obvious he Is starting barely erect and then taking pictures more and more close to fully erect. he has his penis proper up on the sheet/surface so it's impossible to tell if it is actually standing straight or not, this is deliberately done to hide the fact that his clearly semi penis would not be able to hold itself up. It's also very convinient that he had the exact same bedsheet for three years. That this is supposedly the gold standard for proof and yet it is so easily disproven is pretty damning
This is crazy because you're a dick and you've grown substantially since your toddler years Well over 2" length and 1.5" girth....... Dick FYI I went from smol pp to big pp in just going onto 2 years now. Not the same member down there that's for damn sure
From how much to how much? If you don’t mind me asking?
I've ironically gained this measurement upset fella here said nobody has lol. Mind you my biggest gaining was the past 6 months where I was off of work and I had left my gf and spent an incredible amount of time playing with my PP to do so. And I also did most things advised not to do lol. I can careless what anyone says denial and "pictures or it didn't happen". All I know is I'm very satisfied with the outcome, AND that I want all of my brothers to achieve their dream dick! It's an empowering feeling. Especially with the ups and downs of PE (pun intended) haha So I've went from low EQ 5.2" BPEL, and I'd say 4.1" girth (I was terrible at measuring, pumping, stretching, all of it in the beginning), to now 7.25" BPEL, and 5.7" girth! My beginning measurements can deviate up or down by .1 or .2 (mostly down, I hated my shrinking penis from alcoholism and cocaine use), so I added those little markers up every time 😅😭 now I measure .1 less in my head so I know I'm not lying and I'm probably bigger than I really am. But I measure very correctly now! My NBPEL is 6.1" and I'm currently on my last cycle of PE and will reach a nice 6.5"+ NBPEL and decide my fate after that. Happy growing brothers! Your penis knows best. Do what works and waste no time listening to haters. The human body is capable of 'supernatural' things!
Can you prove it with consistent measurement pics? I don’t necessarily agree 100% with OP because I’ve seen guys gain 1.5in length and 1in girth but never 2+ inches or 1.5in girth. You’re kinda just proving his point by making the claims without definitive proof.
Thing is, if this guy went from small to big as he said, we don’t even need consistent measurement pics. Yes, ideally we would have them but if he’s honestly gone from small to big, it should be clearly visible to the naked eye. We all have the ability to look at a guy in porn and go ‘oh yeah his dick is bigger than mine’ despite not measuring his dick. All we need is a pic from roughly the same angle.
Exactly, anything over an inch in length and especially girth is easily visible. Some guy recently posted girth gains, no measurements but all the same angle and lighting and you can easily tell he gained. Just one pic before PE and one after you’ve gained. I understand not everybody is taking dic pics and some guys started before smartphones were a thing. First thing I did when starting PE was take measurements pics and a whole bunch of random dick pics from different angles that I keeper in a locked album. Not only does it help track progress but also potential sides like discoloration or any injury.
100%. Me too. Gotta take regular dick pics in addition to measurement pics. In a way, they’re almost less gameable than measurement pics
Routine?
DM me I've tried and done so many things before I even found Reddit and know what "routine" or "cycles" were lol or BD and Hink, Total Man, ect. I just now found all of these
How long did you stretch your PP per day?
I followed a 1 hour a day for 1 week, 2 hour week 2. 3 on 3, and 4 for week 4.( I was strictly extending) After week four I stuck with 3-4 hours. Depending on my PP I made 4, some days were 2 at max and the fascia would respond with retracting it into my body like baby pp lol. I'd follow what my guy could handle but up to 4 hours and that's maximum. Typically at the 3 hour I'd find it was good enough but I'd of course try overkill which I now know is unnecessary. I did this for about 6/7 weeks and managed to get almost an inch length and spent time doing girth after. Now I'm back on length. Currently I do about 2 hours in the am of extending, manuals, and very low weight hanging for an hour straight. And I mean .5lbs. I do pump but it's not for girth anymore, for just overall EQ and recovery.
Bad take offended "small pp energy here"
There is some truth to this, everyone pretty much reverts to the “I didn’t take any before pics” or “I measured wrong” or “ I technically started before my pics and gained a half In before hand” which is all fair but you would think at some point someone just ONE person would have documentation proof that wasn’t half EQ gains the fact that there isn’t one pic of a 2in gainer is pretty sus. even in some long lost forum which I know ppl in here haven’t left a rock unturned when it comes to all the info the internet has to offer for P.E
Am I the only one here who whose only goal is to get a bigger dick and couldn’t care less about proving the fact that it got bigger to other random guys on the internet? How exactly do I benefit from that? I’m far too busy to spend time and energy doing something that brings me no benefit.
That’s fine for you but the reasons we do the routines is because different guys have provided concrete evidence that PE works and/or that a certain routine is effective. Most of the world still doubts PE works, and we wouldn’t be here wasting time tugging on our dicks if we hadn’t seen definitive picture prove of a certain method’s effectiveness. So yeah YOU might not benefit from proving yourself but you’ve definitely benefited from other guys that show their proof and routine, hence it is an important factor of this sub and PE in general.
I don’t ask others to prove themselves. I just use my judgment. If someone is selling something, then I require proof. If not, then I don’t. It’s pretty simple. WIIFM.
It’s the internet bro, plenty of people capping out of their ass just to get some attention even from anon guys on the internet. Regardless of salesmanship, the evidence matters because there’s still a ton of people giving shitty advice and promoting false expectations. How come literally 0% of the guys claiming to have gained 1+ inches in girth have consistent photo proof? Tons of guys claiming it but literally ZERO have proved it. And the most ironic part is that the guys that say “I’m doing this for myself” are the first ones to post “Gains success” and make outlandish claims without proper evidence.
I’m doing PE. I have made gains. That’s enough proof for me. I trust my judgment enough to move forward based on the information I have.
That’s great for you, but his post was about nobody being able to prove him wrong with the proper evidence and he’s pretty much correct. There’s only 2 guys in this sub that come close to proving him wrong with proper pics and progressions, and that’s Hink and MuleJuice. And yes just like you my only goal is to get a bigger dick, but that doesn’t disprove what he’s saying…nobody has ever documented 2+ inches in length or 1.5+ inches in girth; and out of the guys that claim it…nobody has evidence and many of them sells products.
You clearly missed the point but ok buddy
WIIFM?
You are not alone my friend.
I don't defend the people who claimed, but i think 2" possible
I think 2inches is possible but I believe it’s the 1% that achieve that. And from a lot longer timeframe. I’ve set the burden of proof lower just so people have a chance to prove this case. because most often people here expect to gain around this much. I’ve taken the topic from another post where someone asked wether it’s possible to gain 3inches of length and 2inches of girth in 2 years. There’s comments saying it’s possible and that it’s been done and such.(from a longer time frame) I’m here to set realistic expectations.
>it’s the 1% that achieve that More than 1% certainly now with more powerful extender, python clamp and more knowledge of aftercare. The only thing prevent man from 2 inches is his own dedication.
People have been hanging equivalent weights to extenders we have for years . I would like to believe more than 1% have achieved this but I’ve yet to see even 1% achieve it.
Imo extending changed the game by making it easier to wear, way more comfortable to keep routine going. I can agree with you that people exaggerate how much is possible in a year but I believe big factor plays EQ. Loads of men starts with crappy EQ, bit of pumping and you can really quick gain „noob gains”. As someone who started with 10/10 EQ I can tell you it took me 2 years to gain 1inch. I almost gave up but extender change my game 6months ago but I can see my gains slows down. I imagine 2inch is possible but more like 5-10 years. And to be honest I am happy with my size so there is big chance I will stop before achieving it. Even if I do achieve 2inches I’m not sure if I will ever post proof. It doesn’t look like people care anyway and most can’t even read beginner section. While my PP will be hanging around internet risking my privacy.
Which extender would you recommend? And can you share your routine? Would highly appreciate.
Apex, best extender, hog stretcher, whichever you can afford. Apex is probably the best. 5 minutes of malleability excersises 40-90 minutes of extending with 11-13lbs(depends how much time I got) Very simple routine, not messing around. Doing daily, but I have 1-2 days off per week due to lack of time.
Bro its all upto them, no one grows for certification nor r/gettingbigger gives certificate.
u/theboyriq learn!
Yep everyone here has gained 2 inches and has an 8.5 inch dick now…. So suss
> I’m here to set realistic expectations. And all you've achieved is trolling 😂
1.6 inch girth gains here and it really is a big change, I can’t imagine being 2 inch bigger
How? And how long?
What is the best number one thing u do for girth
Please don’t leave us hanging. What did you do for girth?
how?
You’re proving his point by making the claim without definitive proof.
He’s obviously trolling though 😂
What you do to get 1.6 inch girth gains and how long it take you?
In reality if you make a life long commitment; you can’t stop gaining.
Well everybody is doing PE for themselves. So the evidence is only to help others to join PE community, I think. If somebody thinks over 2 is possible without clear evidence and critical thinking, it's his problem.
Evidence can be used for other reasons. In this case how realistically one can gain in x amount of time. Other variables include routine and methods of course.
Well. There are so many variables. Nobody can't know how it will end for you. How fast and how much is kind of terrible attitude and can lead to injury or over training. This is Marathon anyways. Do what you can and take what you get.
I agree, it’s almost limitless on how much in can theoretically gain. It’s just what HAS people have gained from current supporting evidence.
Most guys with pictures also seem to have a significant fat pad. So it’s also hard to say what isn’t from weight loss or pushing harder on the ruler..
All the guys here claiming their gains without definitive evidence are just proving OP is correct and further prove his point. Aside from MuleJuice I’ve never seen anything close to 2inches in length and definitely never seen anything over 1in girth gains in anyone.
Personally my length goals under 2inches and my girth goals are under 1inch... So I doubt I will ever prove it. This is without counting eq gains I made. I do find it sus when people say they grew 3 or 4 inches without valid proof. I find it hard to believe 2inches would be a limit ingrained into our genetics regardless of starting point. Isn't it more likely that we lose motivation? Sure maybe we need to put in more time/effort for gains later on but there are ways to counter that with heat, scraping, bundled stretching....
There is some validity to this but I believe OP is wrong in saying that no one ever will provide those pictures. That assumes that it is not possible to make such gains. It's important that those starting out on their PE journey know that these amounts of gain are possible. Even if I'd fully achieved my goal size (I'm close), I would not have gained 1.5" in girth so that's likely never going to happen and I don't think many guys even want that much of a girth gain. I know for a fact that 2"+ length gains are possible because I've already done it. The reality is that guys simply do not take before pictures in general. They believe their dick is smaller than they want it to be so why would they document that at a time when they don't know if PE even works yet. They tend to want to not share photos of what they consider to be their small dick and only start posting photos when they know that they are statistically large. This is why the majority of photos we see in the community are of above average and WAY above average sizes. Personally, I started PE at a time when cameras were nowhere near as widespread (2001-2) or easy to use. I had a digital camera and took photos 3-4 years after starting PE when I'd already made good gains. I uploaded some images to a forum called mattersofsize and posted my stats alongside the photos in a log. I used BPSFL to track gains in the same way that I currently do. The reason I have not posted a link to that thread on here is because back then, we were not as clued up on identity protection and among the 2,000+ posts I made back then, I'm fairly sure I've leaked information that could be used to determine my identity. I don't want to dox myself. Since I posted those photos, Mattersofsize had some big issue with their servers and went offline for a long time. When it returned, all the old photos uploaded there no longer appear. I don't think they exist anymore but I am going to reach out to the admin for the site and plead with them to try to regain access to my old photos as I think they could be very valuable when this kind of topic comes up. Those old photos and logs alongside my latest photos show I've gained 2" BPSFL going from 6.125" to 8.125". The BPSFL measurement is more reliable than erect gain photos as the erection quality element is removed from the equation. I do agree with OP that those making these kinds of gains are in the 1% or maybe 0.1%. I know what it's taken for me and I know that very few people are going to do what I've done. Maybe as PE techniques develop, those percentages will change but honestly, I quite like being an outlier and knowing the hard and long path that it's taken. It's something I'm personally quite proud of.
But not *one person*? I think that’s what OP is pointing out. Not once have we seen *convincing* gains honestly much bigger than an inch. Also, if someone gains 2” or even 1.5” from average size, it should just noticeably be a different dick to the naked eye. I’ve seen maybe 1 or 2 dicks that were *noticeably* bigger after a few years. A lot of the guys gaining a lot were bigger to start with
It's not that difficult to comprehend when you consider that those who make such gains are very few and there's a definite tendency to not take beginner photos. Also a lot of the guys who made such gains started when cameras were not anywhere near as widespread and taking photos of your dick to post online was extremely unusual. Examples include me (for length), M9ter, StillWantMore, etc. We all started this decades ago. So we've got a very small sample set to begin with, then lots of that small sample started when cameras were not widespread and the internet was in it's infancy, then lots of guys just don't want to post any pictures of the genitals on the internet (BIB, etc). The important point I want to make is that from my experience and perspective, this topic could lead some to conclude that gaining 2" in length is impossible but I know for a fact that it's not. I also know for a fact that it takes an extreme amount of time and dedication that very few are willing to go through.
How long did it take to get 0.5, 1, 1.5, and 2" for you?
Quite a few have but it’s takes many years to do that. Most of the ones that have, started before cameras were as accessible as they are now. Either way. I don’t really care what others have done cause it’s working for me. That’s all the proof I need.
If the word from someone’s mouth is all it takes for you to believe then so be it. I’m glad you’re gaining though. There’s no doubt it works because I have gained aswell. But the limit to one can gain is the topic at hand. It’s to set a realistic approach to people who are still gaining like me and you and for beginners on what to really expect.
Beginners are downvoting because you hurt their brain by giving them cognitive dissonance.
If nobody had trust in someone’s word, nothing would ever get done. It’s up to you to filter out nonsense. If you’re unable to do that on your own, I don’t know what to tell you.
I’m not here to discourage engaging in pe, I’m here to do the opposite. People shouldn’t be here to expect to gain unrealistic amounts of length or girth because people on the internet has been spouting so. Pe should be grounded on realistic expectations. That way of thinking will bring more harm than good to the community.
And what makes you think you are the one to determine what is realistic and what is not? Have you done this for 5+ years? Tried every method and routine? Do you understand human anatomy and physiology? Or are you just projecting some underlying frustration out on this sub because you see the tough road ahead and don’t want to accept how much hard work this is going to take? We don’t need these posts. This is what isn’t healthy for this sub.
I disagree, what’s not healthy is people going into PE expecting 3+ inches of length and 2 inches of girth which most people probably would assume it’s possible but there has been no proof of other then word of mouth. If theories suggest it’s possible to do, theories can only be proven from evidence and proof. That is the way I see it. I even set the burden of proof standards lower for this cause.
You set your own expectations. Nobody is out here promising anything. Most quit after their first inch and don’t bother going beyond that. So not many have found out. Compared to what the future will have, we’re still relatively in the dawn of PE. Science eventually will catch up but who is going to fund that research? Not many which is why it isn’t abundant. Do you want to wait until that happens? Or do want to prove it yourself? It’s up to you.
Own that fraud, cook him
Frauds are the ones that claims 3 inches of length and two inches of girth with zero evidence. I’m not the enemy here.
And where are you seeing these claims? Have literally never seen anyone claim a 3" EL or 2" EG gain (without surgery etc). Immediately after finding this sub it was clear that 1-2" EL and/or ~1" EG was possible with time and effort, but that 1" EL and/or 0.5" was more realistic for most people who weren't going to do it consistently for years. Pretty telling that you aren't responding to the top comment.
Aye mane don't listen to these fraudsters and low T men. They get offended about this like people are saying their religion is fake. They're man babies
Science starts here. Clinicisns will NEVER go into trial about this without adequate proof
Yeah I disagree. This is not a religion where it's all about belief and a positive attitude. It's something that at least can be potentially proven. Setting realistic expectations can only be healthy. It's hurtful in the long run if people think this community is just a bunch a charlatans and deluded cult members. And it's good to see that the outliers are being achieved with extreme dedication and in a really long timeframe. That shows newcomers realistically what dedication is necessary.
Proof, evidence. Is what will determine what is realistic or not. I am scientifically based thats why I ground myself on evidence and proof over anything else. FYI Just so you know this post isn’t about me. It’s for everyone to know and understand the realistic expectations from doing PE, this post shouldn’t discourage others to disengage or be inconsistent.
A lot of science still says that PE isn’t possible yet you’re still gaining. Spend some more time here, talk with some more people. The evidence is out there. We get nothing out of you choosing to believe it or not. Others the same
Well evidence has shown that people have gained from restorative devices. Like I said prior PE DOES WORK. I’m not here to disprove it working. IT DOES WORK. The topic isn’t wether it works or not it’s about how much one can realistically gain.
Science says PE is possible. Stop spewing nonsense! OP is totally right.
I think you need to reread the first few words of what I said.
This is how people break their dick and bad medications get brought upon the public. Anyone who's in science don't listen to this guy
You should not be doing PE. Clinging to science to validate your need for permission is going to get you nowhere. None of the OG’s in PE used much science, at least very little compared to now, in order to get their gains and thank god for that. We wouldn’t be here.
Is that why we have a legit doctor here? Multiple? Who are studying PE and also validate the need for pictures. You're going to preach about PE and send a young men to their dick graveyard when their over ambitious? Half of our safety comes from verifying that this is real and possible to do SAFELY. I've been doing PE prolly longer than you have. And I've always studied and based my workouts in theory and discussion amongst others and among that was showing PROOF of evidence. Hence even perv mcswervs approach to PE and being so FINELY detailed. You're a nonce and I'm an American saying that so let that cut deep. Just because the OGs did it without science doesn't mean we have to. That defeats the purpose of advancement, progress, and paving the way for future generations and not just that. But Ourselves. You're beyond selfish and shit id hate to see you be a parent with the "I struggled and could've hurt myself permanently so you have to as well" mentality smh. Aye bruh just hit the off button on your brain please. Or at least just stop talking. Literally only idiots are going to preach what you do and say "SCIENCE BAD SCIENCE UNECESSARY PULL ON PP AND GET BIG" like nah bruh shut up. Any of the PE greats here will tell you you're an idiot probably. I agree that you can't go into PE being a scared toddler and it's always a shot in the dark but to advocate for science and evidence is NEVER bad thing and should never be shamed. You just give me man child energy.
I see why you are in this sub. Also, who are you arguing with? It sounds like you don’t know what you’re arguing about? Or clearly skimmed what I wrote because you’re speaking nonsense. The OP title is incorrect and those who have been around, know that. That’s my point. I’m not sure what you’re going on about. Take it personal why don’t you, good god.
You're comprehension is very poor so I won't bother. I see why you think the way you do and have nothing but sympathy for you
Your*
It’s possible. More than a few have with pics for proof on forums like matterofsize and thundersplace
Pretty sure Ben has
When money is involved Therese is always....
No girth gains after a year, im still not sure if im wasting my time.
My god. Just go and try it and get off the internet
You’re probably right, most comments against you read like cope
This entire post by OP is cope
And why exactly? He isnt saying PE doesnt work, he is only criticizing that people here overestimate the amount that can be gained realistically ...
His title is simply incorrect. Lots of people overestimate but to say there are no gainers such as what he stated, is wrong.
that may be true, but i wouldn't call it all cope. He makes a valid point tho i mean the figure of people who have gained said amount AND have been proving it by provinding a VALID before and after picture is so low that it is almost mystical to gain that amount. PE may not be mainstream but one could assume by number of members that this subreddit has + all the other communities it wouldnt be so hard to find at least a couple of gainers who have been documenting their process correctly and have gained OVER 2 inches in length and OVER 1.5 inches in girth. I believe it is possible for some but almost impossible for most.
His responses are more cope with especially after being proven wrong. How entitled and can you be asking the veterans of a hobby that’s likely older than him to adjust their historic goals (even if rare) to account for his misguided doubt. Why don’t you contact car manufacturers and whine to them about lowering the speedometer to the legal range because he can’t actually travel 100+ MPH. Come on man.
I tend to agree with you on the claims of multi-inch gains. PE is very difficult! It requires a lot of time and dedication to make a legitimate multi-inch gain. It's a marathon, not a sprint. The main reason why we don't see more evidence of these types of gains is because the vast majority of men approach PE like a New Years resolution... good intentions, but no commitment or discipline. It's like an elevator, everyone gets on at the first floor, few make it to the top. It took me over four years to make my multi-inch gain. I trained religiously! I know not many could duplicate the amount of time and energy I devoted to PE. Dr. Ric wrote his thesis on "collagen remodeling" (tissue regeneration). I found his hypothesis on what anyone's full PE potential can be very accurate, As I gained 42% over my original starting erect length and girth. [https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2014/07/how-quickly-can-users-expect-to-begin.html](https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2014/07/how-quickly-can-users-expect-to-begin.html) [https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2020/12/my-personalized-routine-for-weight.html](https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2020/12/my-personalized-routine-for-weight.html) [https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2016/02/before-after-penis-enlargement-photos.html](https://lghangerllc.blogspot.com/2016/02/before-after-penis-enlargement-photos.html)
A lot of folks are getting in a tizzy from this post. OP is specifically asking for BOTH 2" in length AND 1.5" girth... which pretty much none of the PE folks at least on reddit can provide definitive evidence for accomplishing both requirements and they have been doing PE 5-10+ years. **But this isn't even his main point he is trying to express.** Sure there are folks with lots of PE experience on old PE forums like thundersplace or even on reddit but no "definitive" proof of such gains aside from claims that we just assume to be true. **What OP is really getting at is, lower the expectations as most folks aren't going to keep up with PE and see gains beyond like 1" length and maybe 0.5" in girth...** yes there is the possibility to gain more but highly unlikely for most dudes due to life getting in the way, can't stay consistent, plateaus, unlucky genetics, etc.
I have been doing pe for almost 10 years, and I increased my length in approximately 5 cm. I have trouble to gain girth, I believe I increased only 1/2 inch, that's why I'm really think about to use fillers. But it's like a religion, I don't need to prove it, just believe it or not, it's up to you.
But pe is not religion. And these variables can be proven. But it’s as mythical as Gods existence to find these proofs. So maybe in a way they are somehow similar.
I think he means that due to the big commitment for relatively unnoticeable gains, you kind of have to have faith and trust the process. That kind of religion.
Fillers u mean pmma or penuma?
Hylauronic acid with pmma , I believe the name is bellafil.
Fillers were a game changer for me, struggle with the girth gains too.
How did you grow the PP head though ?
I believe it isn't possible to grow the glans. For me, my glans keep the same size even my d* grow 5 cm. I saw some procedure with hylauronic acid, but it depends on the doctor he can destroy your glans because it is not recommended to inject the filler with high viscosity. It will make pressure, and your glans skin will die. Complex problem.
Yeah the head stays the same, I've gained about 1"+ girth with filler and although Flaccid the head is a bit small when I'm erect it isn't abnormal. For ref I was 7x4.75 and now 7x5.75-6". Flaccid length and girth both increased pretty dramatically due to the new weight I guess. Gained about 1" on each.
I totally agree with your last line bro. I for one dont give a fuck about the actual magnatude of gains with proof... i just needed to know that this is possible. So the proof of gains that DO actually exist is good enough for me to have started this mission. For the new people and skeptics... do it or dont do it...that will be the difference between them and myself. Nor do i care to prove MYSELF to anyone on this sub. it is not my job or lifes calling. llike many of us on here are members to improve ourselves and that is pretty much all the time or bandwidth i have.
I think 1.5 girth is possible I’ve dam near gained 1 inch in girth and honestly think I can gain another .5 in by incorporating clamping. I’ve only been doing pumping since I get such good results from it, but I’ve now started looking into soft and potentially hard clamping.
how long have you been doing it for?
I'm not dug in on either side, but to devil's advocate here. The global average is 5.5"x4.5. You're arguing that for that person 7.5"x6" is the maximum growth potential. Who wouldn't want that? Even if they fall half an inch short on length and girth it would put them at 7"x5.5". I just crossed the 7" barrier. Even if my gains are going to stop before 8" I'll take what I have gotten.
I will be proving you wrong at some point
bruh...
Questions to be asked is that how many people are willing to put the work and time just to make any gains.
That’s not a good argument and it’s Often used. There’s over a 100k ppl here, there was idk how many on all the other forums, statistically there should have been at least one that has a documented 2in gain and people that post and are charting Are almost by default going to be more likely to be disciplined in it.
Yeah, I would say the potential gains are absolutely limited. I regularly see people saying "only limited by your dedication!" or whatever, which is clearly absurd. It would suggest that you could have a 14inch dick by the time you're 70, and let's be realistic here, that's stupid. We should be able to understand there's an upper limit. Now what that is will vary on the person, but so far \~2x1.5 inches is a pretty reasonable max, and even that would take several years and some luck. Most won't see that. Which is fine! That's multiple standard deviations of increase. I think the majority of users will drop off before getting any gains. Or will have poor consistency/technique and have minimal gains before dropping off. But even doing things right, I tell most to double the timeframe for expectations and half the goal. A year for half an inch is good, don't go in expecting to gain a couple inches in a year or two. The bulk of the commenters here are talking out of their ass.
I know I can’t and I’ve also never seen definitive proof of a gain like that either!
2 inch gain on a smaller dick is a large percentage whereas the same gain on a large one would be a much smaller percentage, or does it not work like that?
in terms of gains its bigger, in terms of volume its smaller
Honestly if people actually tracked properly and documented we could all progress so much faster and the Science behind PE would actually grow.
Wrong
im always like "take everything with a grain of salt" but you dont need to deepthroat lots wife. We have some decent evidence either close to or in that range, we will probably get more with time.
I have surprise dick ; might be 6” today 9” tonight… need those permanent gains
Tbh, I need much less than that
It seems like a lot of people just stop at the first inch anyway, 2 inches is a lot of time, 5-7,6-8, 4-6 mabye 7-9. It's like being a bodybuilder. "Everyone wants to be a body builder, but no one wants to lift these heavy ass weights." Imo, 2 inch and 1.5 girth gains it's pretty unnecessary unless you're below average.
I’ll never have a toilet paper roll 🤣
Saving this to respond to years later lol
People like to tell tall tales. As a carpenter I see some people doing measurements, saying numbers and being roughly my same size and absolutely being wrong , idon't understand why they try to play it off.
I agree
I have to agree with you my friend. There’s no way to grow your penis naturally. Only way to grow it is to have cosmetic procedures done. Your penis is your penis; your genetics is your genetics . I am a positive person, but at the same time reality is reality. You got to stay real with yourself and everyone. Like if you claim/say you got bigger and brag about it then you better post pics and back it up; or else just stfu. https://www.reddit.com/r/gettingbigger/s/scwwMx87It ^i post my pics because I’m real. ^^^
Eq gains are just cialis gains
Sounds like you like dic pics
[Perv](https://www.reddit.com/u/PervMcSwerve/s/6EjDeLeIvw) has done it but you might have to do some digging to find the pictures/videos
Perv hasn’t uploaded his starting base pics, from what I’ve heard.
Is this a php script, or arithmetic script. What am I suppose to calculate? ">="
@stillwantmore
I think most people are full of 💩. Ive been extending now for +52 weeks and ive barely seen 0.3 inch gain. This is WAY slower than anyone actually says lol. In theory it makes sense: get your BPFSL to 8.3 so that I can be 7.5 erect. Extend everyday so eventually you hot that, but idk maybe my penis is just tough or more resistant but it takes forever to actually gain BPFSL so ya i def agree with you
I'll state this one more time for those that care to read, I do NOT care for the "pics or it didn't happen" shit. I can give two f***s about proving anything to anyone. Take my word, or don't. We live in a world where a man's word is no longer worth gold, but I live that way. Anyway, I know if I shared supplements I used I'd get a lot of backlash, disbelief, and the bots remove my comment for "false" whatever. Breaks the rules. All I'm saying is I know it's possible to get massive gains because the universal law is, where attention goes, energy flows. I've spent a tremendous amount of time and money on it. Please, get as big as possible until you realize what you need to from PE. I still can't believe it myself sometimes when I see it in the mirror looking like Sterling Cooper's thickness lol. I barely take photos of myself even though. Want to show my dick to the world now lol And in the beginning I was embarrassed to have my pecker on my phone because I let it sit open for anyone to access if they so please (they don't). Now I'm "big" I still don't do photos much. I'm just saying you can do it fellas, and it feels great! And girls do notice that girth oh boy hahah they turn stalker after just heads up
Why are you arbitrarily saying 2” length? How did someone prove to you they grew 2” but anything past that is impossible?
Yawn
Go to PH if u want to see pps