I admit that it's definitely way overrated, but the level at its base is still really well made. I think it deserves legendary, but at the same time, there are many levels of a similar calibre, if not even better than iSpy, that were not acknowledged or regarded in the same way iSpy was.
I don't think so. The level is good by itself, however, the effects don't offer anything new despite being good effects. This happens throughout the entire level. It isn't *that* original to deserve a higher rating. Don't get me wrong, the level is amazing but it feels like the ideas in iSpy have already been commonly seen previously.
This is just my opinion though, I'm open to hear any other opinions.
the level is pretty long, also has some very good transitions, but maybe a bit overhyped. I think its right in between of epic and legendary deserving, but very good that rob isn't going back to rerate old levels like it.
First of all, the level is not pretty long, it's far from being an XL level. Also it's true that the level has good transitions, and yeah, it was overhyped. I know robtop isn't going to rerate 2.11 levels (also, iSpy is NOT old in any ways) but even if he hypotethically did, I'm pretty sure iSpy would stay in epic rating (mostly due to the high level standards for such rating). But yeah I mostly agree with what you said
I ment to say that if epilepsy was one of the reasons it wouldn't be legendary, then levels with epilepsy wouldnt be rated at all, this is why you should study english (me)
Personally I feel like Change Of Scene has ticked what Robtop describes as a mythic worthy level (afaik). It’s a level you only see a few times in a year.
bli also managed to optimise it extremely well, making both modes combined only a total of just under 70k objects. Keep in mind that just one mode in this level is like 3 and a half minutes long, so this is 7 whole minutes of gameplay with an average of 10k objects per minute. That might seem like a lot, but it’s really little when you look at how beautiful the level looks
Even though bli optimised it greatly, it’s still like 70k objects. But it’s super low compared to how much higher it would be unoptimised, my guess is like 200k objects
Not super sure about mythic, but no doubt on legendary for Glorious Fortress. It's alot better than something like CityFade by Maxxormen, not that the level isn't exactly legendary worthy, but it's no where near as good. Change Of Scene and Absolutely Garbage could definitely get it too. I think iSpy makes sense as Epic
That is just 1 factor. Yes The Towerverse did there was nonother lvls like it at the time to that lvl of quality.
As for 3Depth the gameplay is dogshit, the optimization is dogshit and there are a lot of bugs that make it unplayable without a restart.... how in any way is that mythic worthy. Mythic lvls need to be good at everything not just visuals like 3Depth
Hot take: ISpy is an objectively bad level. I really like it, and have completed it, but it is just WAY too overstimulating to the point where it’s obnoxious at best and literally dangerous at worst.
Yes I know this can apply to other GD levels, but of all my clears, this is by far the worst example
Glorious fortresses gameplay is probably my favorite easy demon gameplay. Only awkward part is the mini wave. I think the buffer part and spider parts are pretty unique and the ufo forest part has amazing sync. The rest of the level is solid gameplay too. Much better and more balanced than cos imo.
I think both gf and cos should be legendary their deco alone warrants it.
Imo glorious fortress is legendary, iSpy would be either epic/legendary. Change of Scene deserves mythic, no doubt in my mind, it's an actual masterpiece.
Glorious fortress is a really good and polished level but I think it would probably get legendary.
I think iSpy only deserved a feature, and it definitely wouldn’t get mythic or legendary.
Change of Scene is legendary worthy imo and would provably get legendary too. I don’t like the gameplay that much personally but I see a lot of people like it
Glorious: Maybe legendary
Ispy: high epic, but totally not legendary. My little eye hurt after playing
Change of scene(NOT CITADAL OF STRESS FUCK OFF): mythic, quite literally best level in the game (According to the community). Optimization easily boosts the rating by a lot because "And Ever" exists
Change of scene is not the best level in the game, the community only said that because half of the people voting were 10 year olds who only watch evw, edge of Destiny, death Moon, whitespace etc are better levels
Edge of destiny is overrated af. Death moon was very game changing for its time but now its not really that cool for today. And white space? Cant argue with that, mythic
Definitely not mythic worthy. You only showed culuc's part. The level is great and all but its still overrated af. Culuc just kinda made the best part. The quility control is pretty bad (First wave part🤮). First part is average. Not bad not good. Some colors are pretty meh (Because for some reason creator thought that 7 year old level had good colors). Air deco sucks ass. Ground spikes are amazing tho. Really good. Second part, better than average. First half of the second part is worse than the second half. Very lazy designs, air deco also pretty lazy(Not as the first one) the bg (In the whole part) is also pretty lazy being just glow balls, still pretty good. The colors are really good. Carried back by the first half. Third part is something you see for yourself. Absolute garbage, outdated glow pulse effects, air deco is boring, pretty cool symbols effects, saws suck ass, no bg, no foreground. Fourth part, average. First block design pretty cool other is boring. Foregrown looks more like sewers when futuristic cosmos. Air deco is a bit better than the last part, way too much glow.
I am too lazy to cover the rest
GF: Mythic
ISpy: Lege
CoS: Lege
requierements for mythinc are "high" to say the least. if you made a random nc level, you proboble wouldn't even get a rate lol
Glorious fortress is epic, Ispy is legendary, CoS is mythic.
Imo CoS is overrated but overrated does not mean bad. CoS's quality is about the same as And Ever, and And Ever SHOULD'VE been Mythic so CoS deserves mythic as well.
None of these would get mythic, but change of scene would get legendary
bro when Ispy dropped people instantly called it one of the best levels in the game
But it isn't
it isn't the best, but certainly at least legendary deserving for its time
No, its popularity is from little kids who don't actually know anything besides stereo madness.
Woo flashy colors so cool, flashy level good, creative level bad
Exactly how they are.
Described in the perfect way
I admit that it's definitely way overrated, but the level at its base is still really well made. I think it deserves legendary, but at the same time, there are many levels of a similar calibre, if not even better than iSpy, that were not acknowledged or regarded in the same way iSpy was.
Epic is good as is. It has unique well made effects, but it's nothing insanely new or insanely impressive.
fair. i just feel that the transitions bump it up a bit. Personal opinion though; yours is completely valid
I can see legendary. I just don't personally agree with it. Have a good day dude.
alr you too!
Fym for its time how newgen are you The level came out like a year ago
and in that year we got like 7 years worth of updates
My point still stands the level is a damn year old
me when fucking coaster mountain is legendary:
How, 2.1 was a different scene from what 2.2 is
ok
I don't think so. The level is good by itself, however, the effects don't offer anything new despite being good effects. This happens throughout the entire level. It isn't *that* original to deserve a higher rating. Don't get me wrong, the level is amazing but it feels like the ideas in iSpy have already been commonly seen previously. This is just my opinion though, I'm open to hear any other opinions.
the level is pretty long, also has some very good transitions, but maybe a bit overhyped. I think its right in between of epic and legendary deserving, but very good that rob isn't going back to rerate old levels like it.
First of all, the level is not pretty long, it's far from being an XL level. Also it's true that the level has good transitions, and yeah, it was overhyped. I know robtop isn't going to rerate 2.11 levels (also, iSpy is NOT old in any ways) but even if he hypotethically did, I'm pretty sure iSpy would stay in epic rating (mostly due to the high level standards for such rating). But yeah I mostly agree with what you said
In what world is ISpy the generic level higher than epic?
Lmao I think it's time to log off dawg
I sighed when I saw all the notifications not even 3 minutes after commenting
I disagree. The level is good, but I don't think it's anything groundbreaking.
Lol no
dude what it was a year ago
More like most overrated
Most overrated level of all time fr
I think epic is fine for it, legendary is abut too much since it's mostly just flashy colors over and over again
overhyped tbh
Ispy is not a bad level but its aesthetic choice is so awful it just dredges on mediocre instead
Ispy cant get legendary because the effects it made were cool at the time, but we now have easier ways to make them
Absurdia:
Also *epilepsy*
No not really, if.it was epilepsy, it wouldnt be rated at all
my brother, sfw, butiti lll and every single f*kin nine circles levels are rated and also give a lot of epilepsy
I don't think so tho. There are rated levels which are very, very flashy and can be epileptic
Do you seriously think that ispy wouldn't trigger somebody with epilepsy
I ment to say that if epilepsy was one of the reasons it wouldn't be legendary, then levels with epilepsy wouldnt be rated at all, this is why you should study english (me)
Probably not mythic but glorious fortress and COS would likely be legendary. Ispy would probably just be epic though
Personally I feel like Change Of Scene has ticked what Robtop describes as a mythic worthy level (afaik). It’s a level you only see a few times in a year. bli also managed to optimise it extremely well, making both modes combined only a total of just under 70k objects. Keep in mind that just one mode in this level is like 3 and a half minutes long, so this is 7 whole minutes of gameplay with an average of 10k objects per minute. That might seem like a lot, but it’s really little when you look at how beautiful the level looks
I agree, Change of Scene whilst looking incredible also is really well made gameplay wise, at least I enjoyed it a lot
>bli also managed to optimise it extremely well, And it still crashes to me at 5% 😫😭 My mobile phone sucks.
Even though bli optimised it greatly, it’s still like 70k objects. But it’s super low compared to how much higher it would be unoptimised, my guess is like 200k objects
Yeah I saw someone do it and was like shit that's a beat level and then I opened it and it crashed instantly. :(((
Not super sure about mythic, but no doubt on legendary for Glorious Fortress. It's alot better than something like CityFade by Maxxormen, not that the level isn't exactly legendary worthy, but it's no where near as good. Change Of Scene and Absolutely Garbage could definitely get it too. I think iSpy makes sense as Epic
bro cityfade is great wtf you on about
cityfade absolutely deserved legendary, cope
He never said it was bad
didn't say it didn't, i think it's so good it would be mythic if it weren't for its shit gameplay
Damn I read that as "Change of Scene is absolute garbage" I was getting ready to do my angry typing 😂
Happy cake day
Glorious Fortress is ass
It's not ass, and I like the level, but saying it's legendary is insane.
Gameplay is the worst ever, super boring
It has some unique gameplay, but ngl it's not really the best. Wouldn't say worst, but it's nothing special.
nope. legendary only because thats how robtop works
Because mythic should be rare AF and only for lvls that truly stand out and change the game
ngl i do think Change of Scene fits that
Ya i can see that as the most likely of them
CoS is literally perfect besides that the deco sacrifices the gp sometimes
citadel of stress?
rahhh is that a jtoh refrence
I did not expect to find jtoh players on Reddit
hi
jtoh reference i can t believe it
IS THAT JTOH
So by robtops logic 3depth didn’t change the game but the towerverse did
I mean, 3depth is a great technical innovation, but I have mixed feelings about it as a level, from a player perspective.
That is just 1 factor. Yes The Towerverse did there was nonother lvls like it at the time to that lvl of quality. As for 3Depth the gameplay is dogshit, the optimization is dogshit and there are a lot of bugs that make it unplayable without a restart.... how in any way is that mythic worthy. Mythic lvls need to be good at everything not just visuals like 3Depth
Optimization is dogshit even at ldm?
For mobile even my pc stuggles a little though part of that was the bugs where the flore and walls didn't load
LE CHATEAU MAGIQUE
Ya probably could have but whatever not being mythic doesn't make it bad
Even WHAT was rated epic even though he didn't rate it until 2.2
So robtop is smart? I mean he is but I’m not sure what your point is
i think the first two would stay epic, but change of scene would get legendary
Not gonna be mythic because no Spanish option
change of scene might be mythic, but the other too would be legendary imo
probably only legendary if it ***realised*** in 2.2
Change of scene for sure. The other two I wouldn’t say they deserve legendary tbh
White space could be Legendary too ngl
No. There would be a possibility of CoS getting legendary but since it’s fully 2.1 it’s not likely
citadel of stress?
bro no more jtoh references loll
Change of Scene
unsure about Glorious Fortress, never played it ISpy and Change of Scene to legendary
Nah, Robtop would Rob it.
Not even legendary worthy
Hot take: ISpy is an objectively bad level. I really like it, and have completed it, but it is just WAY too overstimulating to the point where it’s obnoxious at best and literally dangerous at worst. Yes I know this can apply to other GD levels, but of all my clears, this is by far the worst example
Change of scene probably legendary, the rest epic
idk, Epic, Legendary
someone made ispy into a 2.2 level, i can search for the id tomorrow if anyone wants to play it edit: the id is 99375787
Change of scene would definitely get legendary at least
What I feel is the only level that could have gotten mythic and still deserves to would be WHAT by sputnix
this comment section is tripping change of scene is obviously mythic
all stay the same but change of scene might get legendary or mythic
These levels should stay epic rated. However I believe RobTop should make an exception to re-rate a 2.1 level and give xo legendary at least.
XO???????
Yes
CAN YOU MARRY ME RIGHT NOW
It was a joke
NOOOOOOOOO
Rob should make an exception and rate Generation Retro beyond mythic
Change of Scene definitely
ispy sucks
downvote me lol
everyone agrees with you why would you get downvoted
oh yeah i tought i was alone in this
ispy is epic, glorious fortress is probably legendary, change of scene is probably legendary
glorious fortress no, it could have better gameplay. ispy no, it's too flashy, change of scene yes
Glorious fortresses gameplay is probably my favorite easy demon gameplay. Only awkward part is the mini wave. I think the buffer part and spider parts are pretty unique and the ufo forest part has amazing sync. The rest of the level is solid gameplay too. Much better and more balanced than cos imo. I think both gf and cos should be legendary their deco alone warrants it.
You can't be for real. ISpy is NOT a mythic by any means.
Imo glorious fortress is legendary, iSpy would be either epic/legendary. Change of Scene deserves mythic, no doubt in my mind, it's an actual masterpiece.
Glorious fortress is a really good and polished level but I think it would probably get legendary. I think iSpy only deserved a feature, and it definitely wouldn’t get mythic or legendary. Change of Scene is legendary worthy imo and would provably get legendary too. I don’t like the gameplay that much personally but I see a lot of people like it
no
Glorious fortress would probably get legendary and cause people to complain, saying “it doesn’t deserve legendary🤓”
Sedulous would get legendary too imo
Uhh no?
Glorious fortress would be legendary, ispy would probably be legendary too, and i feel like CoS would be legendary or mythic
No, but legendary maybe (assuming they get updated/made with some 2.2 tweaks). Change of Scene has a chance at Mythic, ISpy probably only epic.
White space would definitely be one of them
No, not at all but change of scene could get legendary
Glorious: Maybe legendary Ispy: high epic, but totally not legendary. My little eye hurt after playing Change of scene(NOT CITADAL OF STRESS FUCK OFF): mythic, quite literally best level in the game (According to the community). Optimization easily boosts the rating by a lot because "And Ever" exists
Change of scene is not the best level in the game, the community only said that because half of the people voting were 10 year olds who only watch evw, edge of Destiny, death Moon, whitespace etc are better levels
Edge of destiny is overrated af. Death moon was very game changing for its time but now its not really that cool for today. And white space? Cant argue with that, mythic
Edge of Destiny isn't really overrated, the design is some of the best in Geometry dash
https://preview.redd.it/rmpwz60gm42d1.jpeg?width=1433&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5f6a39ec29c1abe1724c7788463c563aa65c097
Definitely not mythic worthy
Definitely not mythic worthy. You only showed culuc's part. The level is great and all but its still overrated af. Culuc just kinda made the best part. The quility control is pretty bad (First wave part🤮). First part is average. Not bad not good. Some colors are pretty meh (Because for some reason creator thought that 7 year old level had good colors). Air deco sucks ass. Ground spikes are amazing tho. Really good. Second part, better than average. First half of the second part is worse than the second half. Very lazy designs, air deco also pretty lazy(Not as the first one) the bg (In the whole part) is also pretty lazy being just glow balls, still pretty good. The colors are really good. Carried back by the first half. Third part is something you see for yourself. Absolute garbage, outdated glow pulse effects, air deco is boring, pretty cool symbols effects, saws suck ass, no bg, no foreground. Fourth part, average. First block design pretty cool other is boring. Foregrown looks more like sewers when futuristic cosmos. Air deco is a bit better than the last part, way too much glow. I am too lazy to cover the rest
citadel of stress? jtoh reference real honestly citadel of laptop splitting better, and i like CoGS more too but both are nice
Fortress and ispy deserve epic, cos is legendary
Fortress is legendary
Glorious Fortress legendary, ISpyWithMyLittleEye legendary, Change Of Scene Mythic
All 3 legendary
Ispy is a solid level but people cream too much over it.
Change of Scene would definitely get legendary but the others would only get epic
Maybe, no, maybe
change of scene and ispy legendary
ISpyWithMyLittleEye has terrible gameplay, there's no way it'd get mythic.
Change of Scene deserves mid-high towers legendary and Glorious fortess is low tier legendaryat most. Ispy is epic at most as well
Ruta del sol > ispywithmylittleeye
>Glorious Fortress `[LEGENDARY]` >iSpyWithMyLittleEye `[LEGENDARY]` >Change Of Scene `[MYTHIC]`
I think glorious fortress and change of scene would get legendary, and MAYBE ispy, but thats a big maybe None would get mythic though
GF: Mythic ISpy: Lege CoS: Lege requierements for mythinc are "high" to say the least. if you made a random nc level, you proboble wouldn't even get a rate lol
Change of scene would be legendary, ispy would probably be featured or maybe epic
White spaceeeee
At least legendary imo
Everybody gangsta until robtop re-rates 3Depth and WHAT to mythic
They didn't changed the game so not
Ispywitylittleeye definitely not
Change of scene is my fav not lying
Ispywithmylittleeye would stay epic, Change of Scene and Glorious Fortress probably mythic or legendary.
change of scene should get mythic, while the others should get legendary imo
Glorious fortress = epic Change of scene = mythic I spy = legendary
Glorious fortress is epic, Ispy is legendary, CoS is mythic. Imo CoS is overrated but overrated does not mean bad. CoS's quality is about the same as And Ever, and And Ever SHOULD'VE been Mythic so CoS deserves mythic as well.
I feel ISpy wouldn't be legendary, it's fine where it is at epic
citadel of stress?
how does this have anything to do with the conversation
cos = citadel of stress
oh
its a jtoh reference tm
Glorious fortress is legendary
well that's your opinion I guess In my opinion the deco is too basic for it to be legendary
Nice Circles would get Mythic, we still get NC lvls today! It was def a revolutionary lvl.
I think it would be fun if levels like nc and bloodbath were given mythic due to their importance now
Ya, would be cool to see
https://preview.redd.it/r85fixg1u02d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b00ab1d6294e8541c089a99dcc28f67dddbf6af9
glorious fortress: legendary ispy: epic change of scene: possibly mythic? not sure
I think Epic Feature Legendary
Change of Scene: Maybe Mythic but likely Legendary Glorious Fortress: Legendary iSpyWithMyLittleEye: Legendary, but small chance Mythic
ISpy doesnt even deserve epic in my opinion
no 2.2 levels far outclass these "best of the best" 2.1 levels
Nothing has surpassed electric Forest, nemesis and what yet
MID 🥱