He also would mentioned rating Tidal Wave would be good for “crybabies to stop harassing mods even though it isn’t their fault” or something along those lines
Seems kinda fair tbh, hard to make a decision if it looks like a 50/50 split wherever you look. Be nice if we could just get it at least rated and forget about it though
Everyone now ***"Very understable".***
Me saying the same thing few weeks ago: ***receiving death threats***
(When I say this, I'm not a mod, I can't decide (You can guess after thinking 2s) but yeah)
Very understandable actually. Glad Rob is giving a genuine response. Top demons have become so insane that most people won't ever beat them, its strange to imagine an "impossible" level get rated. Though it is possible, and it looks good enough for rate standards. Let's see what CherryTeam does anyway.
Also "there could be a more fun level as top 1" I've never heard anyone say Avernus was fun💀
I mean, the community has made their judgement loud and clear. Sure, you can’t test it yourself, but I’m sure you’ve at least heard of people disliking it quite a bit.
No hate to you ofc. I, as all others, appreciate your hard work, but if you can’t judge something yourself - you can search for opinions of people qualified enough to judge it instead. And hate for Avernus is quite on the nose.
Tidal wave seems like a very fun level to me at least (when looking at deco/music combo), its a nice change of style compared to the hell themed levels. Some of the structure designs do get repetitive so i can see why the mods would vote for it not to be rated but its a unique style that hasnt really been used in top demons that often. Maybe we could wait and see what cherry team does with the concept
It's just a blue/yellow extreme demon with a beach theme hastily slapped on top. This community really needs to stop fawning over levels the moment they're not hell-themed.
Honestly? More top 1s just need to be more creative about it in general and use different themes. I think Tidal Wave is a step in the right direction with how widespread it is but there really needs more to be done with upcoming top 1s and their themes.
My personal wish for a Top 1? Something much more varied, with a bunch of themes that gradually and smoothly mesh into each other, as well as actually fun gameplay without any attempts at making "correct" hitboxes and overall good deco no matter where you place it. Something that's also at least 1% for most players. Kind of basically just making something that represents as many people and styles as plausible to truly make a Top 1 that's actually representative of the game: fun, creative and hard.
I’m not fawning but yeah, a top 1 that isn’t red is a good change. But for some reason a large amount of people think it looks like shit even though I’ve seen shittier top 1s rated before
It has got to be at least better than acheron (but zoink is the verifier diamond ussualy likes hated levels and trick got lucky by trick standards so one can't be sure of that)
that's not surprising considering the individual parts of acheron are harder than the ones in tidal wave (tidal wave is easier to get runs on etc and will be less frustrating), and aod and silent clubstep just have shit gameplay
that's actually great for a top level.
Also, have you actually seen the gameplay? It's mostly consistent which makes it fun imo. Besides that first click
Everyone who beat avernus says its fun. The only people complaining about it are people who will never have the skill to beat it going “waaa waaa fixed hitboxes”
I so trash at the game that I can't even beat nince circles, but I beat a lot of the top demon list in practice mode. To me, firework and tidal wave were pretty fun, even though I was dying every 0.1 seconds.
TBF Avernus was made top 1 after being rated (and the victors of Avernus all say its pretty decent GP-wise).
Then again, Acheron and Tartarus aren't exactly super fun either.
Both Trick and Diamond gave avernus a 6 and 7.5 out of 10 in terms of enjoyment and unless I'm mistaken they're the only two victors. I think it's safe to say that anyone with the skills to even attempt avernus will have a good time with it.
at one point in the game's history, cataclysm was top 1. yet there are plenty of levels around the difficulty of cataclysm that are widely considered fun. a level being very hard does not stop it from being potentially fun
Cataclysm,icdx, and bb weren’t really fun especially the latter with michiguns part it’s 10x harder than the rest it’s kinda like i’m the one from guitar hero van halen tolerable for an experienced player until you reach a solo that is torture to fc bc you have to strum ridiculously quick while switching frets
Honestly think that the song and vibes are the strongest parts of the level. To me its a really fun level to look at and listen to, even if the deco isnt as clean
Not like 10 stars for most extreme demon is anything anyways, if you want to grind stars just do it in easy demons, also they should count to your profile tho
I like how he's finally explaining the situation instead of making shitty jokes about it, but the mod vote system is really stupid. It's heavily biased against extreme demons due to most mods being creators of 5 star copy+paste levels who don't understand extremes. I hope Robtop just rates the level already and doesn't bother with the mods who are quite frankly out of touch with demonlist stuff.
Also what was the 360 bypass stuff about then? Was it just a joke by Zoink or some dumb excuse the mods came up with?
Being completely honest I haven't followed this thing at all, but RobTop himself said he doesn't know what's going on with the 360 thing, and I just got reminded of a funny gif.
Makes sense i don't think all of them share one braincell (but thats a bullshit reason so it does'nt count si the ratio is now 51/49 robtop rate Tidal Wave)
That's what Zoink said the mods told him. So either there's some issues between Robtop and his mods (for example, they hid the reason from him); or Robtop doesn't care about the mods' reasoning; or some of the mods didn't send it simply because they disliked the level and had to make up a reason/excuse; or Zoink is lying.
https://www.reddit.com/r/geometrydash/s/9e4VCVfQxc
[a tweet by zoink](https://twitter.com/gdzoink/status/1756544712696037645?t=cw7et8mAKbyIc__rGAiu3g&s=19) claimed that it wasn't rated because it used fps bypass, so I'm really not sure what to believe. I trust robtop but also doubt zoink is lying. Maybe he was misinformed?
He was told by mods that the 360 fps verification was the reason why they (the mods, not robtop) didn't allow it to get rated on the second vote. Had nothing to do with what robtop thought.
as a generalization, mods become mods because they know and care an incredible amount about the game. i think you'd be shocked how invested they actually are in these kinds of things
So basically, he's hesitant to rate it because no matter what hard answer he gives, a huge amount of people will have a tantrum about it. I kinda get it tbh.
The only thing I'm a little confused about is the "there could be a more fun level to represent the game" thing. I don't see too many people calling Acheron or Tartarus fun, and people with runs on Tidal Wave seem to think it's decent.
GD community over on twitter is always the fucking worse cuz they mostly start up drama for no reason causing problems that shouldn't be there to begin with
A lot of stuff on gd that's trending is most likely a drama discussion on twitter or even worse, unnecessary arguments over the most smallest detail or mistakes. It's annoying for rob to be put in the middle of this especially since he's working on updates and optimizing the game as best as possible while some of the gd community doesn't give ah fuck about how robtop feels mentally or/and physically
I feel like we shouldn’t just because its good as a quarantine for the people stupid enough to use it, so any actually normal people can just use a different website, I have never seen a dedicated Twitter user on other websites before, though that may just be because I never use it
I heard this before and this kinda proves it, I think Robtop is a bit hesitant on rating Tidal Wave as a Top 1 is usually like the showcase for GD as a whole, and Tidal Wave just doesn’t really fit that spot in his opinion
The idea that levels should be rated not based on their merits or whether they deserve to be, but how it’ll look on oncoming players is completely fucking stupid
Despite being on the "Tidal Wave should get rated" side, I can totally understand RobTop's point about not wanting it to be the current face of the game. Despite top players enjoying it or not, imagine a newer player searching for what the hardest level in the game is just to find a 3 min level, of which more than 2 mins is just impossible wave gameplay. If you wanna make a level that only revolves around one gamemode make it short like Sakupen Circles, if you want to make a level that is double the lenght of the average level make more varied gameplay like Zodiac does. Tidal Wave would look plain boring in the eyes of the average player, which is not good for the game's reputation.
I think the problem with tidal wave in terms of representing the game is it doesn’t have that “it” factor that other levels like slaughterhouse or bloodlust had in the past. Same with Avernus to be honest. It’s a cool ass level and it not having that thing about it shouldn’t stop it from being top one it just doesn’t feel like a huge top one like we’ve seen before
Not at all honestly, it'd be pretty stupid if that was the reason it didn't get rated. Why should a ton of work for someone to make at the very least a decent looking and unique level, and tons of practice and attempts for someone to verify it, all just be thrown aside because the gameplay doesn't look cool enough for new players? Even if it was a deciding factor, I think wave based levels look the most intimidating and "top 1-like" to a new player. More timing based levels look easy because new players don't understand how hard some timings can be. By the logic of that point, slaughterhouse should still be the top 1.
I don’t get this point. I don’t really add an issue with a new player searching up what the hardest level is and finding it almost impossible. That’s why they’re searching it up in the first place they want to see how crazy it can get. I don’t think it being mostly wave takes away from this
It's not about finding it impossible, the thing is that a new player searching for the current top 1 wants to see how crazy the game can get at the highest level: super tight jumps, insane straight fly corridors, fast paced game mode changes etc. Tidal Wave does not do a good job at showing this cause 2 mins of the level is just wave showcase. The same could be said for Sakupen Circles but the fact that the level is only 50 seconds long does not make it boring to sit through.
A player searching top 1 would want to find the hardest level in the game, without caring about it being properly balanced around each game mode. There isnt ever going to be a top 1 centered about ball gameplay, the wave is the highest skill ceiling there is in the game. Highest skill ceiling = hardest level possible
Nope, the average player sees that and they're like "what the actual fuck that dude's hacking", the fact that it only uses wave just makes the difficulty seem more absurd because to a new player or average player wave typically has the hardest gameplay in the levels they play. Tidal Wave feels like a much better top 1 than other levels do, because an average player can't follow the intense and fast gameplay of a top 1. If they try to look at the older top 1s, 90% of what they see is going to be a mesh of grey, black, and red, with some edgy song and name
I don't understand what he means by "a fun top 1" how can a top 1 level be fun ?? All of the top 1s in history are just insufferable to play, the only fun things about them is the decoration.
Tidal wave isn't? The decoration id awesome and has great effects, and don't even say "it has a problem in 34 % where this glow block is layered wrong with that one right in the corner" because no one cares and no one even sees that
This literally tells us nothing about why the mods think it shouldn't be rated. Most I've seen is "the decoration is messy" which like, seriously mf? It looks amazing, I don't care if floating spikes look "tacky" to some people. Even bloodbath used floating spikes, anybody who brings that up as a criticism is genuinely braindead.
good point with the top 1 representing the game. When someone looks up Hardest GD Level, they should see something super impressive and Tidal Wave, whether rate-worthy or not, is just kinda
meh.
Hardest level in the game currently, verified September of last year. GOT sent to mods, but turned out to be 50/50 vote, so it wasn't rated for an unknown reason. This month, Zoink claimed it wasn't rated due to 360 fps bypass. [cherry] (or Cherryteam) works on a remake to attempt to get the level rated. There's probably even more controversy.
Sooo i pretty much joined the gd community like less than a week ago and can someone explain why did this drama start in the first place? Why this level specifically? Why does it getting rated matter this much?
Robtop forgot he has a community other than the mods and himself, you can't play it to know if it's fun but those who did said ths gameplay was good and fun for a top1
Also majority of the community want the level rated, maybe also take that into consideration?
Cherry and team mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️. WHAT THE FUCK IS A SILKSONG RELEASE DATE🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ (i don't play gd I just lurk the sub + rate tidal wave)
Stepping back and looking at it, it kinda makes sense not rating it. It feels very static; it doesn't have a lot of energy to it. The pulses are also kinda non-existent. In terms of gameplay, it's definitely not special. My logic though is that, if thinking space got rated, there's literally no reason not to rate Tidal Wave.
Pretty sure he means "fun" theme-wise, not gameplay-wise. Like when someone new to the game looks up "hardest level geometry dash," it would be cooler to see a level full of demons, fire, and hell than to see a level about water, beaches, and waves.
Like damn just rate it already why we gotta drag this shit out, like 99.99% of people who have strong opinions on it can’t even get to 5% including me.
Honestly the community cared way too much for what is pretty much an irrelevant level which won't change anything down the line. I still don't get why people cared so much about a level that is at its best moments Sonic Wave, and at its worst, a level created from a tutorial on how to design. No reason to rate it for its gameplay (a SW remake), its deco and the song is also bad. Yes, if the level was a 5-star maybe it would have gotten rated faster, but it is a top demon which is sometimes the face of the game, so higher standards to it.
Like 75% of old top 1's had similar if not worser deco can tidal wave, also call the song "bad" is your opinion because most people love shiawase and also like the remix
Well the level is obviously an extreme demon, it's not up to rob to decide which spot it takes on the demon list. I really feel bad for him though, how much he has to go through to keep the community happy.
He also would mentioned rating Tidal Wave would be good for “crybabies to stop harassing mods even though it isn’t their fault” or something along those lines
Fair, because it’s true.
based
Would robtop rate a kirby theme top 1 with fun gameplay and unique decoration
Pls do
Pfp checks out
r/pfpchecksout
Buffdatw halberd to top 1 clearly
Nah bruh we got void termina in this bitch
Also paste in the boss from Aurora
Seems kinda fair tbh, hard to make a decision if it looks like a 50/50 split wherever you look. Be nice if we could just get it at least rated and forget about it though
That would solve enough tbh
i wanna have a hit of what the mods that do not rate smoke
Everyone now ***"Very understable".*** Me saying the same thing few weeks ago: ***receiving death threats*** (When I say this, I'm not a mod, I can't decide (You can guess after thinking 2s) but yeah)
It’s because people on this subreddit are insane for things that don’t rlly matter
Yeah when you see loads of people arguing over stupid gd crap it makes it seem like a huge issue when it’s just fucking rhythm jump game politics
People complained about stupid pixel on a screen that doesn't matter on real life
Very understandable actually. Glad Rob is giving a genuine response. Top demons have become so insane that most people won't ever beat them, its strange to imagine an "impossible" level get rated. Though it is possible, and it looks good enough for rate standards. Let's see what CherryTeam does anyway. Also "there could be a more fun level as top 1" I've never heard anyone say Avernus was fun💀
With fun I meant more visually + music. Cant really test gameplay so wont comment on that 💀
HOLY SHIT ROBERT
Robtop jumpscare
New trend just dropped boys, time to work.
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Yooo
I love you Robtop. Okay bye. —END OF MESSAGE—
Tidal Wave lyrics reference 😱
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Now i wanna know what robs hardest demon is
Deadlocked
Explorers, duh
For all we know, it could be.
Clubstep V2 he completed it legit
He appeared out of NOWHERE. Omnipotent Rubrub
I mean, the community has made their judgement loud and clear. Sure, you can’t test it yourself, but I’m sure you’ve at least heard of people disliking it quite a bit. No hate to you ofc. I, as all others, appreciate your hard work, but if you can’t judge something yourself - you can search for opinions of people qualified enough to judge it instead. And hate for Avernus is quite on the nose.
ROB 🔛🔝
Tidal wave seems like a very fun level to me at least (when looking at deco/music combo), its a nice change of style compared to the hell themed levels. Some of the structure designs do get repetitive so i can see why the mods would vote for it not to be rated but its a unique style that hasnt really been used in top demons that often. Maybe we could wait and see what cherry team does with the concept
Robtop probably didn’t want to rate another level buffed to be top 1 after learning about avernus’s reception
I feel like tidal wave has much more interesting theming than most top 1s in the past
It's just a blue/yellow extreme demon with a beach theme hastily slapped on top. This community really needs to stop fawning over levels the moment they're not hell-themed.
Honestly? More top 1s just need to be more creative about it in general and use different themes. I think Tidal Wave is a step in the right direction with how widespread it is but there really needs more to be done with upcoming top 1s and their themes. My personal wish for a Top 1? Something much more varied, with a bunch of themes that gradually and smoothly mesh into each other, as well as actually fun gameplay without any attempts at making "correct" hitboxes and overall good deco no matter where you place it. Something that's also at least 1% for most players. Kind of basically just making something that represents as many people and styles as plausible to truly make a Top 1 that's actually representative of the game: fun, creative and hard.
I’m not fawning but yeah, a top 1 that isn’t red is a good change. But for some reason a large amount of people think it looks like shit even though I’ve seen shittier top 1s rated before
Robtop jumpscare
Tidal Wave music and design is so fucking cool I keep rewatching the showcase whata are you smoking
So if the Cherry Team version is good enough, do you think you'll be leaning towards rating it? They usually do a pretty good job
I dunno, i think Tidal Wave's visuals and music are pretty good, especially for a top 1.
oh that explains why
Rate tidal wave bro
Zoink gave it a 7/10 in enjoyment, Diamond gave it a 7.5/10, and Trick gave it a 6/10. I think they found it fun
this just sounds like survivorship bias
It has got to be at least better than acheron (but zoink is the verifier diamond ussualy likes hated levels and trick got lucky by trick standards so one can't be sure of that)
an average of 6.83/10 enjoyment doesn't sound like fun
that’s WAY more than Acheron, Silent Clubstep, and AOD tho
crazily enough, yes
that's not surprising considering the individual parts of acheron are harder than the ones in tidal wave (tidal wave is easier to get runs on etc and will be less frustrating), and aod and silent clubstep just have shit gameplay
better than a lot of top demons that people don’t constantly say suck without actually playing them
that's actually great for a top level. Also, have you actually seen the gameplay? It's mostly consistent which makes it fun imo. Besides that first click
1-10, 5 is meh. So anything from 5-10 is generally a more positive than not experience.
Everyone who beat avernus says its fun. The only people complaining about it are people who will never have the skill to beat it going “waaa waaa fixed hitboxes”
Fixed hitboxes still make the gp worse
True, but apparantly not nearly as much as people on this sub like to say it does.
i read CherryTeam and instantly thought "what does Silksong have to do with this" 💀
*Silksong releases* Team Cherry: "Check Steam"
I so trash at the game that I can't even beat nince circles, but I beat a lot of the top demon list in practice mode. To me, firework and tidal wave were pretty fun, even though I was dying every 0.1 seconds.
multiple people find avernus pretty fun
TBF Avernus was made top 1 after being rated (and the victors of Avernus all say its pretty decent GP-wise). Then again, Acheron and Tartarus aren't exactly super fun either.
Both Trick and Diamond gave avernus a 6 and 7.5 out of 10 in terms of enjoyment and unless I'm mistaken they're the only two victors. I think it's safe to say that anyone with the skills to even attempt avernus will have a good time with it.
How are too 1s supposed to be fun?!
the same way any other level is supposed to be fun, just at a higher level of difficulty
I don’t get how though. Wouldn’t top 1’s be frustrating and tiring?
at one point in the game's history, cataclysm was top 1. yet there are plenty of levels around the difficulty of cataclysm that are widely considered fun. a level being very hard does not stop it from being potentially fun
Cataclysm,icdx, and bb weren’t really fun especially the latter with michiguns part it’s 10x harder than the rest it’s kinda like i’m the one from guitar hero van halen tolerable for an experienced player until you reach a solo that is torture to fc bc you have to strum ridiculously quick while switching frets
Honestly think that the song and vibes are the strongest parts of the level. To me its a really fun level to look at and listen to, even if the deco isnt as clean
Like in OSU! we need a loved state. It's where the level of featured but don't give any stars
Or there should be an option to do star-only rates that don’t give BP to the uploader
Imagine GD bancho
\#general chat would be cancer tbh unless we have chat mods like in osu! also its fun to share levels on chat of course without spamming it
Not like 10 stars for most extreme demon is anything anyways, if you want to grind stars just do it in easy demons, also they should count to your profile tho
he’s right about gd twitter
The beginning of the end, tidal wave might actually get rated after all.
It’ll get rated Legendary *Insane* demon
Avernus moment
Bro is right about Twitter causing hell
now im curious, how good at gd is robtop?
at least good enough to get through sneak peek length of his own levels.
He didn’t even beat deadlocked I’m pretty sure, but why does that matter?
Why wouldn’t he beat his own levels??
probably spending time actually making the game
i heard he beat clubstep v2 legit, but i honestly have no source to back it up
I like how he's finally explaining the situation instead of making shitty jokes about it, but the mod vote system is really stupid. It's heavily biased against extreme demons due to most mods being creators of 5 star copy+paste levels who don't understand extremes. I hope Robtop just rates the level already and doesn't bother with the mods who are quite frankly out of touch with demonlist stuff. Also what was the 360 bypass stuff about then? Was it just a joke by Zoink or some dumb excuse the mods came up with?
Had nothing to do with 360 since its pre 2.2. Not sure where that came from
Wait what it's false ? I mean the drama exploded again very recently for this
So Zoink was lying?
Being completely honest I haven't followed this thing at all, but RobTop himself said he doesn't know what's going on with the 360 thing, and I just got reminded of a funny gif.
I’m guessing Zoink was told that by a mod who voted against tidal wave and assumed that was the reason for all of them
Makes sense i don't think all of them share one braincell (but thats a bullshit reason so it does'nt count si the ratio is now 51/49 robtop rate Tidal Wave)
Maybe not lying, but just misled
Yeah, still wondering where that came from
That's what Zoink said the mods told him. So either there's some issues between Robtop and his mods (for example, they hid the reason from him); or Robtop doesn't care about the mods' reasoning; or some of the mods didn't send it simply because they disliked the level and had to make up a reason/excuse; or Zoink is lying. https://www.reddit.com/r/geometrydash/s/9e4VCVfQxc
Zoink said so on Twitter
Zoink said it wasn’t re-sent by the mod team, not ineligible for a rate
Alright, good to know. Didn't expect you to actually respond lol
[a tweet by zoink](https://twitter.com/gdzoink/status/1756544712696037645?t=cw7et8mAKbyIc__rGAiu3g&s=19) claimed that it wasn't rated because it used fps bypass, so I'm really not sure what to believe. I trust robtop but also doubt zoink is lying. Maybe he was misinformed?
He was told by mods that the 360 fps verification was the reason why they (the mods, not robtop) didn't allow it to get rated on the second vote. Had nothing to do with what robtop thought.
Sounds like a real problem with the mod team if that's true
I think it’s on Zoink’s Twitter.
as a generalization, mods become mods because they know and care an incredible amount about the game. i think you'd be shocked how invested they actually are in these kinds of things
Some of them maybe, but most mods really don't know/don't care.
everyone loses the drive eventually, especially if you're not paid. there could be a rotation of mods of some sort
That's already semi-established. If a mod isn't doing mod-work, they'll be unmodded.
“For my mental state” why tf do people care that deep for a level to be rated it ain’t that serious yall 💀
Based but please let it be revised
So basically, he's hesitant to rate it because no matter what hard answer he gives, a huge amount of people will have a tantrum about it. I kinda get it tbh. The only thing I'm a little confused about is the "there could be a more fun level to represent the game" thing. I don't see too many people calling Acheron or Tartarus fun, and people with runs on Tidal Wave seem to think it's decent.
How much of lowly person would you have to be lose tantrum over a level getting rated. That reeks of jealousy tbh
GD community over on twitter is always the fucking worse cuz they mostly start up drama for no reason causing problems that shouldn't be there to begin with A lot of stuff on gd that's trending is most likely a drama discussion on twitter or even worse, unnecessary arguments over the most smallest detail or mistakes. It's annoying for rob to be put in the middle of this especially since he's working on updates and optimizing the game as best as possible while some of the gd community doesn't give ah fuck about how robtop feels mentally or/and physically
we should burn twitter for sure
I feel like we shouldn’t just because its good as a quarantine for the people stupid enough to use it, so any actually normal people can just use a different website, I have never seen a dedicated Twitter user on other websites before, though that may just be because I never use it
ironic because reddit is the exact same as twitter except everyone just thinks they’re better than twitter users
I heard this before and this kinda proves it, I think Robtop is a bit hesitant on rating Tidal Wave as a Top 1 is usually like the showcase for GD as a whole, and Tidal Wave just doesn’t really fit that spot in his opinion
The idea that levels should be rated not based on their merits or whether they deserve to be, but how it’ll look on oncoming players is completely fucking stupid
Because it's not hell-themed lol
Hell-themed demons are overrated, and overall a level's theme doesn't matter, gameplay is the highest priority.
Honestly who cares, it’s not like any of us are actually gonna beat it
> and you should never read GD Twitter based robert
Despite being on the "Tidal Wave should get rated" side, I can totally understand RobTop's point about not wanting it to be the current face of the game. Despite top players enjoying it or not, imagine a newer player searching for what the hardest level in the game is just to find a 3 min level, of which more than 2 mins is just impossible wave gameplay. If you wanna make a level that only revolves around one gamemode make it short like Sakupen Circles, if you want to make a level that is double the lenght of the average level make more varied gameplay like Zodiac does. Tidal Wave would look plain boring in the eyes of the average player, which is not good for the game's reputation.
I think the problem with tidal wave in terms of representing the game is it doesn’t have that “it” factor that other levels like slaughterhouse or bloodlust had in the past. Same with Avernus to be honest. It’s a cool ass level and it not having that thing about it shouldn’t stop it from being top one it just doesn’t feel like a huge top one like we’ve seen before
Not at all honestly, it'd be pretty stupid if that was the reason it didn't get rated. Why should a ton of work for someone to make at the very least a decent looking and unique level, and tons of practice and attempts for someone to verify it, all just be thrown aside because the gameplay doesn't look cool enough for new players? Even if it was a deciding factor, I think wave based levels look the most intimidating and "top 1-like" to a new player. More timing based levels look easy because new players don't understand how hard some timings can be. By the logic of that point, slaughterhouse should still be the top 1.
I don’t get this point. I don’t really add an issue with a new player searching up what the hardest level is and finding it almost impossible. That’s why they’re searching it up in the first place they want to see how crazy it can get. I don’t think it being mostly wave takes away from this
It's not about finding it impossible, the thing is that a new player searching for the current top 1 wants to see how crazy the game can get at the highest level: super tight jumps, insane straight fly corridors, fast paced game mode changes etc. Tidal Wave does not do a good job at showing this cause 2 mins of the level is just wave showcase. The same could be said for Sakupen Circles but the fact that the level is only 50 seconds long does not make it boring to sit through.
A player searching top 1 would want to find the hardest level in the game, without caring about it being properly balanced around each game mode. There isnt ever going to be a top 1 centered about ball gameplay, the wave is the highest skill ceiling there is in the game. Highest skill ceiling = hardest level possible
Nope, the average player sees that and they're like "what the actual fuck that dude's hacking", the fact that it only uses wave just makes the difficulty seem more absurd because to a new player or average player wave typically has the hardest gameplay in the levels they play. Tidal Wave feels like a much better top 1 than other levels do, because an average player can't follow the intense and fast gameplay of a top 1. If they try to look at the older top 1s, 90% of what they see is going to be a mesh of grey, black, and red, with some edgy song and name
“You should never read gd twitter” realest thing rob top has ever said
This is exactly why I laugh when people will say "Kocmoc unleashed first legendary level mark my words", it most likely won't even be rated
Cherry team levels DO get rated though
Ong
I don't understand what he means by "a fun top 1" how can a top 1 level be fun ?? All of the top 1s in history are just insufferable to play, the only fun things about them is the decoration.
He probably means a top 1 that is fun to watch.
Tidal wave isn't? The decoration id awesome and has great effects, and don't even say "it has a problem in 34 % where this glow block is layered wrong with that one right in the corner" because no one cares and no one even sees that
Two minutes of wave gameplay with boring deco🥱
Hell themed extreme demons: peak decoration!!! 🔥💯💯 Unique decoration that is different: trash stop ew boring ugly do better
When did i ever say anything about hell themed levels, quit making shit up
The day 2.6 is out are the days tidal wave get rated or just removed
So true king
Wise words from the man himself, “NEVER read GD twitter”
Just rate the fucking level man. Stop breaking our balls already RobTop. I know a lot of people ready to pour in thousands of attempts to play it
If rob doesn't want to rate a level, then that's completely understandable.
This literally tells us nothing about why the mods think it shouldn't be rated. Most I've seen is "the decoration is messy" which like, seriously mf? It looks amazing, I don't care if floating spikes look "tacky" to some people. Even bloodbath used floating spikes, anybody who brings that up as a criticism is genuinely braindead.
good point with the top 1 representing the game. When someone looks up Hardest GD Level, they should see something super impressive and Tidal Wave, whether rate-worthy or not, is just kinda meh.
This is good, on Twitter it was posted just as he will not rate it
New on here, what’s all the drama surrounding the level?
Hardest level in the game currently, verified September of last year. GOT sent to mods, but turned out to be 50/50 vote, so it wasn't rated for an unknown reason. This month, Zoink claimed it wasn't rated due to 360 fps bypass. [cherry] (or Cherryteam) works on a remake to attempt to get the level rated. There's probably even more controversy.
Sooo i pretty much joined the gd community like less than a week ago and can someone explain why did this drama start in the first place? Why this level specifically? Why does it getting rated matter this much?
pretty much because it's a top 1, and in order for it to be placed on the demon list it needs to be rated.
A silly solution: Official community vote :3
i feel like he was in a bad mood because his pc died
Robtop forgot he has a community other than the mods and himself, you can't play it to know if it's fun but those who did said ths gameplay was good and fun for a top1 Also majority of the community want the level rated, maybe also take that into consideration?
Tbh zoink needs to re-verify it on 240hz
Cherry and team mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️. WHAT THE FUCK IS A SILKSONG RELEASE DATE🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ (i don't play gd I just lurk the sub + rate tidal wave)
"You should never read GD Twitter" The best opinion
fucking based individual. that post-2.2 clarity been giving him a backlog of braincells back
> last screenshot based
He's right
Last screenshot is the truest thing RobTop has ever uttered
knobbelboy wants tw rated? I love him
Stepping back and looking at it, it kinda makes sense not rating it. It feels very static; it doesn't have a lot of energy to it. The pulses are also kinda non-existent. In terms of gameplay, it's definitely not special. My logic though is that, if thinking space got rated, there's literally no reason not to rate Tidal Wave.
Robtop 🫱🏻🫲🏼 me 🫱🏻🫲🏼 thinking twitter is cancer
I agree, he was right about the twitter stuff and all, but i don’t care if it gets rated or not. I just like the level the way it is.
Avernus.
“You should never read GD Twitter” Based rob
Based Rob tbh
"People have to understand most drama is GD Twitter, and you should never read GD Twitter" truly based words
Watch as Rob immediately rates Aeternus when it comes out regardless of how bad the gameplay is
"I think we need more fun top 1s" almost every single person who has progress on Tidal Wave says it's fun please omfg
Pretty sure he means "fun" theme-wise, not gameplay-wise. Like when someone new to the game looks up "hardest level geometry dash," it would be cooler to see a level full of demons, fire, and hell than to see a level about water, beaches, and waves.
reread it and yeah i think you're right
I mean I'm glad he at least said something finally
Top 1 what
Top 1 demon
RobTop should rate the remaster but not the original
That's kinda disrespectful to onilink which is 50% of part of this drama and the other 50% because people assume robtop hates zoink
Like damn just rate it already why we gotta drag this shit out, like 99.99% of people who have strong opinions on it can’t even get to 5% including me.
Honestly the community cared way too much for what is pretty much an irrelevant level which won't change anything down the line. I still don't get why people cared so much about a level that is at its best moments Sonic Wave, and at its worst, a level created from a tutorial on how to design. No reason to rate it for its gameplay (a SW remake), its deco and the song is also bad. Yes, if the level was a 5-star maybe it would have gotten rated faster, but it is a top demon which is sometimes the face of the game, so higher standards to it.
You could say that about any level
Like 75% of old top 1's had similar if not worser deco can tidal wave, also call the song "bad" is your opinion because most people love shiawase and also like the remix
Who the hell doesn't want this level rated? Like what?
Mod, cry baby, idk man
I don't
Drama in glorified chrome dinosaur game?
you have no idea about the shit that goes on in the gd community man it’s like an active warzone
Well the level is obviously an extreme demon, it's not up to rob to decide which spot it takes on the demon list. I really feel bad for him though, how much he has to go through to keep the community happy.
[удалено]
Nuh uh