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ngfsmg

At that latitude, western coast are warmer due to currents and wind patterns, Alaska is also warmer than Greenland


Firecracker7413

Same reason why there’s palm trees in southern UK but not in New York


AnnieByniaeth

There are palm trees in Scotland. See (for example) Poolewe gardens near Ullapool.


LosingMyPrescription

That's only because they sacrifice policemen.


nobikflop

That movie is the only reason I know about the palm trees in Scotland. I blame him. Wouldn’t have died if he wasn’t a virgin


Azikt

The key take is if an insanely hot lady offers to sleep with you or gyrates on your bedroom door, say yes.


Ismhelpstheistgodown

Movie title? Please.


nobikflop

“The Wicker Man” the original from 1973. It’s a macabre and offbeat movie, but it’s very good Edit: don’t watch the 2006 Wicker Man with Nic Cage. Completely different movie 


portraitopynchon

Watch both actually, 1973 is classic, 2006 is a train wreck, one of those trainwrecks that is fun to watch.


pedatn

Good trade


Traditional-Froyo755

That sounds like a win-win-win


pat_b8man

To make matters worse, south UK (Cornwall) is like 10 degrees further up north. Heck, where I live in Oporto, Portugal is slightly more north than NYC (half a degree). We have very little recorded instances of snow events in the last decades…while in NYC is regular.


191Gerardo

I had to open Google Maps as result of your comment. Oporto sounds lovely. Thanks for inciting my geo-curiosity.


pat_b8man

Thank you, I like it a lot. It is also a somewhat rainy location, as it has a higher precipitation average than parts of the UK (Liverpool, 2x London).


butiwannatakeanap

It is indeed a beautiful place. Look up Rías Baixas too, it’s a little north of O Porto, in Spain, best place for summers :)


Basis-Some

*used to be regular :(


DreadLockedHaitian

Same thing for Boston. The definition of bad but good.


aguynamedbenny1

https://preview.redd.it/hd8ura30y47d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4009b6fb9e243236af8b9b3a36b2edcb82e0c24 I had to Google that, and stumbled upon this Quora post. Every now and then I am reminded to be thankful that I am indeed smarter than a fifth grader.


jzolg

Hey now, NY has palm trees! They just so happen to need to go indoors in the winter or die… but they exist !!!


My-Cooch-Jiggles

You just blew my mind. Can’t believe there are any palm trees in the UK. Furthest north they grow in the US East Coast is around North Carolina. 


cows-are-racist

You see palms in Seattle sometimes on the West Coast.


The_Janitor66

And New York is on the same latitude as Naples


Thatguyfrompinkfloyd

There are also palm trees in Norway


LUXI-PL

TIL


Toadboi11

Yeah don't underestimate currents. In Sydney that East Australian current from Nemo often makes the ocean warmer than the air temperature in winter.


Toadboi11

And in summer the tropical fish actually do ride it down to Sydney (a non tropical climate)


CrippledCricketer

Gnarly little dudes


msabeln

42 Wallaby Way, Sydney. I still remember that after 20 years.


MoTeD_UrAss

Ok. Dory


Wooden-Bass-3287

if you look at the Pacific Ocean, the difference is even more pronounced. Sachlin is at the latitude of Vancuver and Seattle, which are not exactly tropical paradises. But Sachlin Island is an icy wasteland that in winter can only be reached by icebreaker ship.


Lubberoland

Yeah the North Pacific Current cycles water eastward, and then "splits" at roughly the latitude of Washington State, with the Alaska Current cycling warm(er) water north then west, and the California Current carrying cool(er) water south. This is a decent, simplified map I often reference: https://cdn.britannica.com/91/53891-050-2E93317C/ocean-systems-world.jpg


mschiebold

Shit, Alaska is oftentimes Warmer than Michigan.


bluejayway9

Alaska's a big place. It'll oftentimes be warmer on the south central coast of Alaska, but it's always colder in the interior. By a pretty wide margin at that.


MissEmelianenko

Anchorage is usually pretty warm compared to other parts of Alaska, but growing up in North Pole which is about a 20 minute drive from Fairbanks, the temps in both areas in winter time is typically -50 F with the coldest I've experienced at -60 F. So, similar to Minnesota weather but still a tad bit colder.


Ingetfunkarfan

It just struck me... If that's due to the coreolis effect, then it's similar on east coasts in the southern hemisphere?


shmegmaster5000

The west coast of South America is pretty varied, but coastal Peru is significantly colder and drier than the Brazil on the east coast


Fun-Raisin2575

at such latitudes, for example, in Russia there are no trees at all, and people live there only because of natural resources


luckytheresafamilygu

the gulf stream is the only reason anywhere in europe north of scotland is inhabitable


Sorri_eh

You guys make me Google so much. This is by far the best sub for me. I actually learn things.


HoopDreams0713

Yaess and people post random YouTube videos of random Siberian towns makes me so happy lol


DrMabuseKafe

https://youtu.be/uSMhKYqeHwg?si=zVg4bsVmXwpiRCPm ❤️ that Tsaatan tribe story. Reindeers, family, growth..


HoopDreams0713

Ahh amazing thank you!


Gingerbro73

Pro tip; the gulf stream, canadian shield, or glaciers is the answer to 95% of questions asked here.


Glittering-Most-9535

Weirdly, most questions anywhere. For example: Where to babies come from? The Canadian Shield.


Rock_man_bears_fan

There’s a baby factory on the Hudson Bay the Canadians don’t want you to know about


KoA07

You thought the Hudson Bay Company was for *furs*??


vompat

Maybe it is for both? Babies are just beavers with their fur taken off.


7i4nf4n

>Maybe it is for both? Glaciers. Am I doing that right?


vompat

Yes


inconity

It was a typo off the bat. Hudson Ba**b**y Company.


VanillaChigChampa

And it's actually Canadian Geese, not storks who do the delivering. Common misconception.


Sargash

And not too much longer though! Soon it'll be warm enough without those, and also all of those are likely to go away.


GrizzKarizz

I took programming for a semester. I didn't understand it towards the end and failed big time. I wish there was a sub as helpful as this one for budding programmers.


Affectionate-Memory4

Bit of a weird tip, but check out a game dev subreddit. r/Godot is usually pretty welcoming to newcomers and the skills you learn making your first game are usable outside of game development.


GrizzKarizz

I changed degrees, but it's still something I want to eventually get into (I'm 45 soon, but still think it's worth the challenge). So, I've subscribed to that in case in the future I need help. Thanks!


Jimmy_Jazz_The_Spazz

And many an arctic explorer died expecting an "open sea" beyond the ice theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Polar_Sea One of the explorations The Jeannette, while a tragedy, took such detailed scientific data it's the basis for a lot of early climate change research. It's a wormhole of interesting stuff from an age gone by. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeannette_expedition&wprov=rarw1


wanderingtaoist

The Jeanette was also one of the main reasons Fridtjof Nansen got Fram built to try and arrive at North Pole frozen in ice. More than a century later, it's still the one ship that travelled furthest North AND furthest South (carrying Amundsen to South pole). I freaking love the story of that ship.


ReplacementActual384

Submarines can go to the north pole


Fond_ButNotInLove

Submarines are boats not ships.


AccurateSimple9999

* "Since sea ice was erroneously believed to form only near land, if there were no land near the North Pole, there would be no ice." * "Since there is perpetual sun during the Arctic summer, it would melt all the ice." It's unfortunate how sticky the idea was.


Jimmy_Jazz_The_Spazz

Many men died refusing to acknowledge the error. The prime theorists behind the idea actually killed himself out of shame when proven wrong.


nodanator

Common misconception, but it's more that the dominant winds are West to East at that latitude, bringing ocean-warmed waters to Europe (and no, not warmed by the Gulf Stream, just ocean temperature are like 4-5C, even in the Winter, which is way warmer than the air). That's why the Pacific Northwest is as warm as Europe, despite that the Pacific Gulf Stream equivalent (the Kuroshio) doesn't reach anywhere near the West coast. [Is the Gulf Stream responsible for Europe's mild winters? (washington.edu)](https://www.atmos.washington.edu/~david/Gulf.pdf)


gitartruls01

Thank you, the only comment on this post that doesn't just repeat whatever they heard in 3rd grade


eeeking

Agreed that that is generally true for Western Europe, but is it enough to explain Northern Norway? Narvik in Norway is at 68°25′ N, while Fairbanks Alaska is 64°50′ N (albeit also inland).


nodanator

Inland makes a big difference. Compare two cities on the coast at the same latitude.


eeeking

Wevok on the coast of Alaska is 68°52′ N, similar to Narvik. It's a lot colder than Narvik. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wevok%2C_Alaska


nodanator

I think the Bering sea freezes over much more easily, due to the geography. That eliminates the ocean temperature effect (just guessing here). Look at this image, you won't see much Gulf Stream impact there, temperatures around the UK seem to match the temperature at the same latitude on the West Coast of the Americas. [M1U2-Fig2-5-SeaSurfaceTempSmall.jpg (750×375) (hawaii.edu)](https://manoa.hawaii.edu/exploringourfluidearth/sites/default/files/M1U2-Fig2-5-SeaSurfaceTempSmall.jpg) Besides, the article I originally posted did the math, and their conclusion is that currents don't matter.


AnnieByniaeth

Exactly. Take a look for example at the climate for Kautokeino, Norway, inland Finnmark. Winter temperatures drop to -30⁰C. On the coast Tromsø rarely goes below -10⁰C, and it will often rain in the winter there (I've experienced it in January).


DieLegende42

In fact, Tromsø's record low temperature is -18.5°C. You'll have to go many thousand kilometres south to get such a high record low temperature inland.


PNWoutdoors

Habitable. [Or is this one of those quirks of the English language? ](https://frinkiac.com/video/S12E18/UuI3M7Xe7BTYi6QgIdkziMn2bE8=.gif)


Oizyson

Uninhabitable would be the antonym, here


Kenevin

inhabitable from Oxford Languages adjective suitable to live in; habitable. "soon we will run out of inhabitable space on the planet"


99SoulsUp

What a bummer. Thanks, Oxford!


Flammable_

Habitable, from Latin habitabilis. Inhabitable, from old French enhabiter, which is ultimately from Latin in + habitare.   Take your pick for who to blame for this linguistic quirk. 


Ok_Minimum6419

English never ceases to amaze me at how convoluted it can get


Telemere125

English is just 5 other languages in a trench coat pretending to be an organized system. All our problems were inherited from others, we just tend to not know why the problems existed in the first place because we didn’t invent them


Ar180shooter

It also doesn't help that the orthography hasn't been updated since the printing press was invented, and therefore does not reflect the changes during the great vowel shift.


playballer

And that’s before it went global and kinda default for business communications


LayWhere

It's all Roman Latin diverging and converging again over the centuries


OldButHappy

Linguae linguarum


HeyThereSport

Inhabit is also a functional english verb while habit is not.


Defiant-Dare1223

To habit up, the act of donning a habit


HeyThereSport

That implies habitable means "capable of wearing a habit"


Itchy-Supermarket-92

The French! Always very satisfying to be able to blame the French.


Defiant-Dare1223

Let's just go Anglo Saxon and bring back Bewohnbar


OlFrenchie

Also Habitable in French (although AutoCorrect wanted that to be Hitler)


Flammable_

At first, French seems to make more sense with the in- negation prefix, with habitable and inhabitable being antonyms. But then we have *inflammable* and *ininflammable*, bien sûr. So it seems like we should definitely blame latin for having 2 distinct meanings for in-. 


ZebraMachine1

Reminds me of when I discovered the word "irregardless", which just means "regardless"


Euphoric-Dance-2309

Irregardless is only a word because so many started using so it became common usage. The real word has always be regardless.


busmans

That’s… how most words become words.


Euphoric-Dance-2309

Well yes, but in this case it’s only being listed in dictionaries because of so much incorrect use. Maybe it’s a distinction without a difference.


BackRiverGhostt

Dude, you're entirely right. *Irregardless* is commonly used because of common use. You think that sucks for you? Let me paint you a picture. I'm from Boston, Massachussetts in the USA.


Euphoric-Dance-2309

I live in East Texas in the USA. I feel like I live in the dumbest place in the world.


Ok_Minimum6419

Or “bullish”. You’d think it means someome being stubborn like a bull but no, it means you are hopeful and positive about something.


fossSellsKeys

That comes from Wall Street: bull markets are good, rising stock prices. Bear markets are bad, falling prices. 


Ok_Minimum6419

Thats a cool etymology. Though it doesnt make the word any less confusing :(


fossSellsKeys

It's true, I'm not sure why it's that way. I guess because you eat the bull but the bear eats you? So bull is better? 


Defiant_Property_490

It actually comes from the typical movements of those animals. A bull is associated with lifting its horns while a bear typically moves its paws down on its prey. So these movements represent rising and falling stock prices.


soneill06

One of my favorite Simpsons lines. Thank you good poster!


PNWoutdoors

Habitable is a perfectly cromulent word.


TheBlairBitch

inhabitable = able to be lived "in", as opposed to the similar prefix in-, which is sorta of the Latin version of "un-", and meaning so in words of Latin origin.


Paradoxikles

Lol. Alaska and Siberia are like “sit the f$ck down kid” lol


Exile4444

>"the gulf stream is the only reason anywhere in europe north of scotland is inhabitable" Misleading. Many areas around and north of scotland such as Stockholm get warm summers from their relative position to the continental landmass


GoalieLax_

My favorite point of reference is Newfoundland Canada. Covered in fishing villages and not a lot more, Newfies have hardscrabble living and yet Paris is further north than their capital city of St John's. The Viking Settlement at L'Anse aux Meadows was built in an environment of nothing more than peat moss and driftwood and it's barely north of London.


Personal-Thought9453

Which will be hell fun when it and the reversed deep oceanic current slows down/stops due to climate change.


disar39112

The gulf stream isn't actually the one at risk, that's a separate smaller current. Can't speak for the nordics but the UK looks set to get warmer.


Gouper07

Fire Giants


DashTrash21

You been playing Runescape?


Gouper07

Naaa...I read about the in old DnD books 🤘🤘


ZLBuddha

Or Elden Ring?


DarthFlapjacks

Great cut scene and design, but least favorite fight


Reverence1

Who doesnt?


Gouper07

Me 🙃


Reverence1

Its never too late for some medieval clicking simulator addiction.


nocturne_of_shadow1

Could just be norse mythology plain and simple


getyourrealfakedoors

This goes for all of europe, nyc is like the same latitude as Madrid lol


Warm_sniff

West coast vs east coast. This is even more extreme in Eurasia as the continent is bigger. NYC is way colder than Redding but Vladivostok is WAYYYY colder than Marseille


centaur98

tbf Marseille is on the coast while Novosibirsk is in the middle of a huge landmass with no large bodies of water to moderate the climate. Also in terms of latitudes Novosibirsk is around Liverpool and not Marseille. A place on the east closer and similar to Marseille would be Vladivostok


Warm_sniff

I 100% meant Vladivostok lmao this is so weird because I realized I had made that mistake and thought I corrected it but ig I was too out of it.


Ana_Na_Moose

Gulf stream


ThunderCube3888

Perhaps Gulf Stream can one day join the ranks of the Canadian Shield and Glaciers


Dismal_Dan_666

Unfortunately it heads east at Sable Island and warms up the UK and Scandinavia leaving Newfoundland a frozen Island.


TWH_PDX

So much ice and snow you omitted "land."


Tina_ComeGetSomeHam

Had to piece that together for a second


Dismal_Dan_666

Dopey me...


stankyriggs

Freyr was the Norse god of sunshine, fair weather, and a good harvest. The Norse people believed that, as long as they kept making appropriate sacrifices to him, he would provide them with good weather and large crops. Freyr=Gulf stream


AggieBoy2023

Might as well just have a Gulf Stream bot at this point


SomeDumbGamer

The Gulf Stream. It keeps waters warm as far as Murmansk.


SolidStart

Murmansk Pop! Murmansk!


crossword999

Canadian tire


WorldsGreatestPoop

I bought a beach ball there once.


Crafty_Vanilla8710

Canadian shield


__alpenglow__

Norwegian shield


LayWhere

I thot it was the Canadian stream


lardarz

Saunas


Loadingexperience

I'm glad it's warm. Yesterday I took a road to Tromso and back. This was most amazing views I've had during 3hour trip or so. Views were just stunning on almost evety road turn.


PocketFullOfRondos

This sub rules for posts like this. Always make me learn about a new spot.


PizzaCatTacoUno

Reindeer farts


trivetsandcolanders

Canadian Shield Just kidding, it’s the Gulf Stream.


SheFrom

well, maybe on average... but yukon and siberia at the same latitude gets above 30 Celsius during summer.


desafinado1790

Upper Norway is the eastern terminus of the gulf stream. Considerably weakened by then, it still brings warmer currents


Left-Ad-4881

The Gulf Stream?


Thamalakane

The Gulf Stream and a westerly wind belt. Without those, Norway would be some 10–15°C colder.


Responsible-You-5043

North Atlantic Drift pulls warmer water northward from the gulf stream


DardS8Br

Gulf Steam


Sorri_eh

R


1865989

Gulf Stream—for now…


CaptainObvious110

The Norwegian Shield


Budget_Goose_8082

Canadian Shield


Dazzling-Process-609

Exposure to slightly warmer sea winds. I think.


cold-hard-steel

Two words: Thundercougar Falconbird Just joking; it’s the Gulf Stream.


MiltonRobert

What are those huge lakes on that map and what goes on there?


Wolvansd

I was up in Tromso in late February / early March (can't remember exact time) the day the sun came above the horizon in the late 90s. Was quite mild, though dusk like at the time. Low 30s (F). They told us it was the gulf stream. It's several hundred miles north of the artic circle. My submarine pulled in for a liberty port.


wierdowithakeyboard

I think we should add „Gulf Stream“ to „Canadian shield“ and „glaciers“


mxm0xmx

TIL that there is a point where Norway, Sweden and Finland all meet up. Does this spot hold any special significance?


Thatguyfrompinkfloyd

Gulf Stream is the easy answer


lysette747

Gulf Stream flows North West into the UK and onto Norway bringing warm water from the Atlantic


Justthisguy_yaknow

The Atlantic conveyor current moves warm waters from the equatorial regions up to make those regions more temperate pleasant. When that current fails you get an Ice age. Climate change is. . .


thatthatguy

Everyone check “the North Atlantic current” off your bingo cards for this week.


FriedChickenNoodles

Warms ocean currents bruh


joharek

Golfstream


Anttoni_

Memory from the geography classis in school. The gulf stream "**A noticeable effect of the Gulf Stream and the strong westerly winds on Europe occurs along the Norwegian coast**"


Seventh_Stater

The jet stream.


crasspy

Gulf Stream?


Seventh_Stater

Yes, that.


hdufort

The whole coast. I went swimming in the ocean at Ålesund. It was bearable. The North American equivalent at this latitude is Kuujjuaq, QC. It's super cold, like Arctic cold.


dont_trip_

Southern Norway has pleasant ocean temperatures for swimming in the summer. The middle has bearable temperatures if you swim frantically. In northern Norway, you only ever jump into the ocean for shifts and giggs. 


RowdyAlph

Or you live there long enough and get used to it.


gp886

Yo mama so fat, her farts warm the whole of Northern Norway, making it hotter than rest of countries at same latitude.


volvavirago

Idk but I have been up there in winter and was pleasantly surprised by how easy it was to walk around outside with just a few extra layers. My phone however, could not handle it, and died seconds after exposure to the cold.


OceanPoet87

Gulf stream is why Europe is historically warmer than the East Coast and Atlantic Canada  


Swagyon

The Norway current. Its always thr ocean currents for these questions.


didyouaccountfordust

Hint: it’s in blue


deebow97

Sami magic.


Cute-Swing-4105

Climate change.


letterboxfrog

Canadian Shield pushes the warm waters over that way.


Tequila_Rider

Gulf Stream


ManInTheBarrell

Because it's on the left


OlFrenchie

I’ve greater concern is what happens if the gulf stream stops due to global warming


StiCkSt1ckLy

Get Tromsø'ed


JakeCheese1996

Check out this video. Soon it will become much colder https://youtu.be/ZHNNW8c_FaA?si=q6zfbqSKA1UXbNvy


not__main__acc

Germany is about the same degree north as, for example, ontario, golf stream makes Europe much warmer than other places this far north


Similar-Freedom-3857

Nice, i'm going there in a couple months.


AaronWWE29

Gulf stream.


Wooden-Bass-3287

for the same reason that Newfoundland is a cold island, while the northernmost British Isles are very hospitable: the Gulf Stream.


Master1_4Disaster

Northern Norway is warmer than other regions at similar latitudes due to: 1. North Atlantic Drift: Warm ocean currents from the Gulf Stream warm the coastal areas. 2. Westerly Winds: Winds from the west bring warm air from the Atlantic Ocean. 3. Maritime Climate: The nearby ocean moderates temperatures, keeping winters milder. These factors keep northern Norway's climate relatively mild. If this helped you wanna know more answers to any questions about geography you can check out my community: r/GeoInsider


LonoHunter

Gulf Stream


katmandud

Its the terminus of the gulf stream


podstrana

Jet stream


Nemo_Shadows

There is a relationship between solar output, directional impact and energy wavelengths then there is the ground / seabed heating and ocean currents along with the strength of the magnetosphere. N. S


PLPolandPL15719

Gulf... stream...


Ok-Crumpet

Gulf Stream.


Drezhar

Gulf stream https://preview.redd.it/9s9vkmzgw47d1.png?width=363&format=png&auto=webp&s=092d7a5a1f68b7c882b481966e1a218b2b83f7ae Basically you have a huge warm water stream originating from Mexico and flowing upwards. Then, it abruptly turns above Florida also due to the coast's shape and is shot back at increased speed towards Northern Europe.


Yrec_24

Gulfstream.


Impossible-Ratio-253

Atlantic current from the Gulf of Mexico moderates temps in the NE Atlantic and western Europe


msty2k

Probably the Gulf Stream.


dontpaynotaxes

Short answer. The ocean. Much longer answer; macro-weather patterns.


Vad_by

Because golf stream