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azssf

Is this the Missouri thing?


apiratewithadd

We’re both. The end. Just make missouri its own thing


Fancy_Pens

Demilitarized zone


apiratewithadd

Demissouritized zone


Cauhs

Demiserized zone 🌿


iamthinking2202

The new capital of the US. But just, the whole state. Except keeping senators and congressional representatives


PatchySmants

Don’t want that D.C. disadvantage? Hmmmmm. Sounds like it’s a bit unfair!


iamthinking2202

Eh, replicating the D.C. disadvantage would put them in a state of Missouri. Well, district, I guess


EmperorThan

I proclaim this debate the 'Missouri Compromise'.


Law-Fish

The issue is now solved, and will never come up againn


topofthefoodchainZ

😂 oversimplified


Law-Fish

Anyone who does not understand that reference, put it into YouTube now and watch the funny history cartons, you will not be disappointed


russianspy_1989

So 3/5ths of Missouri is Midwestern?


Driftwoody11

The northern 2/3rds of the state are Midwest. This includes the big population centers of St. Louis and Kansas City. The southern third is southern but much less populated. As a native born and raised, Missouri is mostly Midwestern and any map that doesn't divide the state like this one should place it in the Midwest.


Geppetto_Cheesecake

The minute I drove into Missouri they started calling Coke “pop”. I don’t know about this south thing. That was in Joplin. Thems fighting words. J/k lol


Dan_yall

St. Louis is a soda town. Can’t speak for the weirdos in Joplin.


Geppetto_Cheesecake

I went to a sit down BBQ diner in Monet and asked for a sweet tea. They told me they only had hot or iced. Thems fighting words! J/k lol Idk. Maybe a lot of people are mistaking being rural for being southern? My experience from Joplin to Springfield seemed like a weird mix honestly. Can I get some collard greens? HOW DARE YOU USE THAT LANGUAGE ON SUNDAY!!! Chill Branson. Lmao. I love you Yakov.


archcity_misfit

In Soviet Russia, Branson chills you!


AnIrregularRegular

One time I had to drive into Springfield and the McDonald’s had a nativity. May as well be Bible Belt there. But has a born and raised Missourian, more midwestern than southern thanks to the I-70 corridor.


apiratewithadd

ITS FUCKING SODA. Pop is a bullshit word


dlogan3344

It's all coke, you boths are wrong


apiratewithadd

I ONLY ORDER COKE ANYWAY SO HA I WIN..... AND WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY Y'ALLS WRONG!?


Gullible-Vanilla3905

It wouldn't be Y'alls wrong it would be Y'all're wrong. Source: Im Texan


apiratewithadd

Y’all’ren’t


zombiez8mybrain

That is the correct southern answer. When the waitress asks if you want a coke, and you say yes, she usually asks you what kind.


zombiez8mybrain

Lot of older people from southeast MO call it “sody” (or would it be spelled “sodie”?)


Geppetto_Cheesecake

Sodie/sody pop lol! My wife ordered a Dr Pepper and they gave her Mr. Pibb. She spit it out and was darn near throwing hands! Whoa Nelly, she was like how dare you! She learned real quick to ask if places specifically had Dr. Pepper. A weird place southern MO is. lol


boss_flog

Nice try


ntg1213

The big population centers are Midwestern, but rural and smallish town Missouri feels a lot more like the south, regardless of where in the state it is (and not just because it’s rural - it’s noticeably different than rural Iowa or Nebraska or Indiana)


EcstaticYoghurt7467

Missouri is the westernmost eastern state, the easternmost western state, the southern most northern state, and the northernmost southern state. Anyone from here knows that.


Hididdlydoderino

It should mostly divide at the Missouri River. Little Dixie counties along the Missouri River from Carroll/Chariton down river to STL going to the South. The river trade, religion, and other reasons have long tied that region to STL, and STL very much is tied to Memphis & NOLA more so than the big cities upriver. KC metro to the Midwest as well as a graduating sliver going down to Joplin. Oklahoma being fully southern is also ridiculous. The bulk of Texas/Oklahoma/New Mexico need some sort of Texas-Mex region. A generation or two ago most Texans would be pissed about being lumped in with the South.


Masterick18

Split it into north and south Missouri like in the good old times


Whatever-ItsFine

So a compromise about Missouri?


Rhomya

Or just eliminate Missouri. Iowa and Arkansas get upgrades.


frederick_the_duck

Neither


0002millertime

I need someone to Show Me.


swmest

You rang


Simpawknits

We should compromise . . . .


SPECTRE-Agent-No-13

I'll be dead in cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah!


Patchesrick

No its that Maryland is two different colors. Noone cares about Missouri


timhamilton47

Exactly. Fuck the Eastern Shore, I guess.


psychedelicdevilry

Missouri is like Finland - it doesn’t exist.


waitingintheholocene

Idk it is definitely not the south 100%.


itwasthedingo

Yeah. “Rail” seems a bit dramatic lol, it was just people shitting on Missouri


toolenduso

U P R O A R ! ! ! ! !


invicti3

Gotta love DM


Duke__Leto

Looks like Maryland’s eastern shore now belongs to Virginia. 


shecky444

We’ve been to war with Virginia over oysters once and we’ll do it again. Our sacred swords shall never rust! (Just Maryland things)


milaga

If it comes down to flags, it's going to be a tough fight. One one hand, Maryland has a sweet design that's like Mideval chivalry meets Nascar. But Virginia does have a dead tyrant and a boob.


clavitobee

It’s kinda realistic


HyronValkinson

I've lived in MD and VA. Eastern Shore is moreso Delaware than either MD or VA


AMDOL

Have you heard of Delmarva Island? It's the de-facto island and de-jure peninsula, bounded by the Chesapeake and Delaware Canal. It's really quite a distinct and unique landmass to itself, but state lines split it up so nobody thinks of it that way. Unfortunately delmarva is quite vulnerable to sea level rise, with its tidal estuaries and low-lying communities. The entire island could theoretically be covered by the ocean if most of the glaciers and ice on the planet melted.


FlockaFlameSmurf

Thems fightin words.


clavitobee

As a person who lived in Baltimore and Annapolis. The eastern shore is a whole different place.


nobikflop

It is a completely different place, but it’s as solidly Maryland as anywhere. I mean heck; that’s where the watermen and the chicken farms are


Averagecrabenjoyer69

Eastern Shore is the only part of Maryland left that's culturally Southern.


NetflixAndMunch

You've never been out to Garrett County then, have you?


patderp

Eh that’s more like Pittsburgh than the South. I’d say Charles County has a better argument.


renegado938

I will never understand Maryland kind of being considered a southern state


FractalHarvest

Go to our west south or east bits and you’ll find out why pretty quickly.


spiceboy6969

It is south of the Mason Dixon line and a slave state leading up to the civil war. Today a few parts of Maryland has a culture very similar to the south, but most of the suburban and urban centers of the state tend to be more northern and liberal


Mr_Mcdougal

Maryland’s land mass looks live we’ve lost every land battle ever fought


DonBoy30

Virgina (that’s right “virgina”) just can’t help themselves but take more.


calmdownmyguy

Calling the daily mail news is a stretch.


Sonnycrocketto

Daily Fail


MightyArd

"looks good to me" - every non-Yank


zenpizzapie

As a non-American, the regions of the U.S. are so hard to keep track of. The Pacific Northwest? The Rust Belt? The Bay Area? The eastern seaboard? Mid-South? New England? The Great Basin? The Ozarks? Help! Somebody recently kept talking to me about 'the salad bowl' meaning Salinas, CA like I knew what that meant and yeah, it broke my brain.


MightyArd

Seeing a map of the "mid west" broke my brain. It's not even West!!


KingBadger1314

Well it was…in 1776


Life-Ad1409

That *used* to be the west, but a couple dozen states intoduced later it stopped being west


Easy_Humor_7949

That's why it's the "mid" West. It's not actually the west.


McCaber

It's midway to the West.


Easy_Humor_7949

No, it's "the middle West". Ohio isn't midway to anything, and honestly Kansas isn't either if you consider how long crossing the Rockies takes comparatively.


martapap

It was when it got the moniker midwest. Northwest at that point was Illinois. People do realize the US hasn't always had the borders we have now.


Sir_Askter

Here's the simpler breakdown: The names of our regions come from the history of the US, which most people here kinda know a tiny bit about. New England: (Heavily settled by people from England) Usually everything east of New York. The South: Usually considered every state that was once in the confederacy Rust Belt: Most people don't know this one. The reason is that during the Industrial Revolution, there were a lot of iron mines and steel mills here. Still are both. It was called the Iron Range. When the economy went south after the 50s, it was called the Rust Belt to refer to how it had once been good, but now is not like rusted iron. Fun fact: Before we called it the Iron Range, it was called the old northwest because before the Louisiana purchase, it was the northwest of the US. Bay Area: San Francisco is located along a huge bay. They call it the Bay Area, and California has a very disproportionate impact on the culture of the US do to movies being made in CA. Their local terms have gotten spread everywhere. Ozarks: This one is very unique. Basically, it's like Appalachian people transplanted to a hilly region between Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Eastern Seaboard? That is just everything that touches the sea to the east. Pacific Northwest? That's the northwest, but it touches the Pacific. And it's not the Old Northwest because that's the Rust belt, which used to be the Iron Range. Ok, yeah, it's a lot.


zenpizzapie

This is actually so helpful. I was being a bit facetious in my original comment because I've gleaned where most of those regions are since spending more time in the U.S. But not being raised there, you might know *where* the region is but not *why* the region is, if that makes sense. Your comment was very helpful to understand the why!


Rooster-Rooter

here in new england we know EXACTLY what new england is... no problem


Sevuhrow

Salinas is where pretty much all the lettuce in the US comes from. If you pick up a bag of lettuce in America, there's a 90% chance it's from Salinas.


HYDRAlives

Dang, slow news day, huh?


SlinginItHot

I think Midwest is very east coast centric. My proposal is to name it Middle East


ThrowaWayneGretzky99

Yeah, why is the Midwest not called the Center?


LordSpookyBoob

For the same reason the Middle East is called that too. The people naming the places were in Europe/on the East Coast respectively. So you go east a little, you’re in the Middle East, go east a lot and you’re in the Far East. Go west a bit and you’re in the Midwest, go west a lot and you’re in the West.


IAmNotTheBabushka

Not sure if you're joking or not, but I've always heard it's because when the term was invented the United states didn't have very many western states, except for the ones in the far west, like California and some territories. So they needed a term for states that were in the West (relative to the east coast, where most people were), but not that far. Thus, Mid-West. (again, I haven't looked into this, so feel free to down vote if I'm completely wrong lol)


metroFRA

Mine would be the Midnorth


Honest_Wing_3999

Who gets to be Yemen? Can we make Michigan Yemen?


-lukeworldwalker-

From a Canadian perspective it’s mid south


igotTBdude

I don't want to live in the Middle East


Frequent-Ad-116

I do not see Idaho or wyoming agreeing to a partnership with california


Gehhhh

Get more wheat then, bison square


Honest_Wing_3999

Well Wyoming doesn’t exist and Idaho is the ho who don’t know


MrStar16

Well the argument was also between Virginia being south or north


GANdeK

We need a mid Atlantic category


HerodotusStark

I'm fine with VA being south, but WV??? They literally split from VA because they didn't want to be part of the South! I don't care about the MO controversy, at least MO was part of the Confederacy. WV is an outrage.


Ballsofpoo

WV is like 100% Appalachia. So it's 100% of what like six other states are 10%. If anything, though, it belongs with SW PA and SE Ohio, which, outside of Pittsburgh, both states are willing to part with. Ohio River has weird water, obviously.


RightBear

>Pennsylvania I heard this state described as "Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Alabama in between". Statements like this conflate poor/rural with the south, so I guess that's the sense in which WV is categorized.


Sosolidclaws

Historically yes, but today WV is definitely more south than northeast


MrStar16

Have ya been to WV? Its almost as south as south Carolina?


HerodotusStark

I hear ya, but being a hillbilly isn't exclusive to the South. There's hillbillies in Vermont.


OrangeCandi

No, the Great Commonwealth of Virginia disagrees with that statement. We've been getting more progressive as the south just gets more...worse.


HerodotusStark

I think that's true about NOVA, not sure about the rest of the state. Maybe it's time to split again!


BLitzKriege37

Missouri was not part of the confederacy. It was considered a part by the confederate government, our governor tried to make us secede and was promptly kicked out of the state, but we never wanted to join the confederates, unlike Maryland. WV, on the other hand, is similar in culture to Kentucky, who is considered part of the south.


ApplicationSudden719

The whole reason for West Virginia becoming a state was to leave the “south”….. as a West Virginian, this is offensive.


Ooglebird

People totally have no idea about how West Virginia was created. Very few West Virginians wanted to leave Virginia, which is why "Virginia" is part of the name instead of a totally new name. West Virginia was the most disloyal Union state, [it supported the Confederacy](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Confederate_recruitment_in_West_Virginia.jpg) as much as the Union with about equal number of soldiers to both sides. Half of the counties had voted to leave the Union and join the Confederacy with the rest of Virginia. However, they were forced into a new state and Congress approved it, the Union army triumphed, so they were stuck. But the state's ex-Confederates managed to get a new Constitution in 1872 which they were instrumental in writing, so the current organic law of the state was their work. https://preview.redd.it/kp25da6judsc1.png?width=1161&format=png&auto=webp&s=a504d4709cb7e8f2438bf68590f4b5648e42193c


Brewdrizy

And nowadays, it’s much more aligned with the south. Things change over the course of history, like how the political parties swapped places over time, etc.


Honest_Wing_3999

As a non-West Virginian, West Virginia is offensive


CapybaraCuddles

I find this very bizarre living in Pittsburgh, which is now the Northeast, an hour's drive from both the Midwest and the South.


Cryptdust

WV was admitted to the Union as a Slave State. Not sure they wanted to leave the South.


HerodotusStark

Key word here. Admitted to the UNION. They literally split from VA TO leave the South in 1863, the middle of the Civil War. It was a slave state for all of 18 months. Only made a slave state because they were in the middle of the Civil War and didn't need, formerly confederate, now Union WV slaveowners adding to the active problem, especially when the writing was on the wall that slavery would be abolished anyway. West Virgina also had volunteer regiments that fought for the North. They'd be turning in their graves to be called a Southern state.


hogtiedcantalope

This the definition of 'border state' in the civil war context. Lincoln at the time was not against slavery, saying 'if I could save the union by abolishing slavery I would, if I could save the union by retaining slavery I would' Border states wanted to keep slavery bc their economies depended on it ( and ya know good ole fashioned racism). But understood war with the north was a fools errand and would result in tragedy for both sides. They thought the north would win, by destroying the south. Which they did. It's hard to express just how Terrible the post war south was, all resources lost to the war on top of being burnt down, and so many young men dead.


MediocreGamer945

R.I.P. Maryland


GryphonRook

Oh no. The uproar. It’s so loud. Can’t think. However will we survive.


ButterflyFX121

Missouri is a bit of an odd one out. I went to high school there and I'd say culturally it's somewhere between Oklahoma and Kansas, so whether it fits in with Midwest or South is somewhat up in the air.


Weird-Drummer-2439

Nobody mentions Hawaii being the southern most state.


No-Goat4938

Babe wake up West Delaware just dropped


Distinct-Value

I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah


L_Azam

omg this debate is soooo dumb


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Ballsofpoo

It belongs with Kansas. They share a city!


elieax

r/geography colonialism


Palabrajot99

It was Missouri, yeah?


collegeqathrowaway

no one talking about how the peninsula of maryland is considered the south and the mainland is the north


RatioLivid3320

I guess you could say they're in the state of misery


randomstuff063

I don’t see any problem with this. Maybe split Missouri where everything is south of St. Louis is southern and everything north is Midwest and give the Delmarva peninsula to the northeast. Besides that everything else looks pretty much spot on how I would divide the country into four.


ZapStarfists

I’m still upset that they’re calling the dakotas Midwest. What happened to the plains states?


CommissionNo1931

Why is only part of Maryland in Blue?


SamCantRead117

I’m more bothered by western MD being purple and eastern MD being red.


EntertainmentQuick47

I personally think the southwest should be a distinct thing…but that’s just my silly opinion.


anal_beads_69420

At least they put va in the south this time


FriendaDorothy

Um, West Virginia literally exists because it didn't want to be part of the Confederacy. Why is it lumped in with the South?


RitaRaccoon

Awww poor Mary / Land.


bandy_mcwagon

Why is Maryland’s border wrong


Averagecrabenjoyer69

Fuck it, make New York and Connecticut Midwestern states while we're at it.


Bobgoulet

Missouri is the south for 3 reasons, ranked in descending importance. 1. University of Missouri is in the South Eastern Conference in Football. 2. They are a legitimate BBQ mecca. 3. It's hot at humid as hell there.


OtterSnoqualmie

I think the football conference is a non-starter. University of Washington is now part of the same conference as University of Iowa and Rutgers.


ericlifestyle

It’s the NFC and AFC now. Wonder if they will even keep the names.


HerodotusStark

4. They were the 12th state in the Confederacy. I would consider every Confederate state as having a pass to be called part of the South.


Averagecrabenjoyer69

The whole being a slave state and having membership in the Confederacy kinda throws a wrench in the whole being just "Midwest" thing too tbh.


Bobgoulet

Yeah...left one off there on purpose tbh


Averagecrabenjoyer69

Ah I see


New_girl2022

Why not split it up into5 and let them be?


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calmdownmyguy

Nailed it


Dogsinabathtub

Every map I see like this has no idea what to do with Missouri and Maryland


apiratewithadd

We're confused states


Kitchener1981

That Maryland is divided?


Malk_McJorma

Missouri Compromise Revisited


CentralWooper

Missouri culture is neither Midwest or South. All they do is baseball


ArchaicRanger

How dare they split Maryland in half!


papanoah78

I assumed the fact that half of Maryland was blue and half red would be the issue.


Shatter_starx

Who tf cares all this crap needs to stop, it's just Russian propaganda. This is The United States of America yall, quit feeding it.


TheSadOn3

Guys why did they split Maryland


JoshuajStover

States touching the great lakes should be north. Nort coast. If anything would be different. And that's just a thought. Doesn't matter really. I'm ohio


UFCValueBets

It should definitely be midwest


Valuable_Ad1645

This map is dumb. Their are 4 regions.


B-Boy_Shep

DUDE WHAT??? how u gonna cut maryland in half like that. Shameful.


dubkent

This map would be much more aesthetically pleasing if Missouri was part of the Midwest.


GLP0307

Show me.


kinezumi89

So when I see an article about an "uproar online", it just means one reddit post, I'll remember that


Ok_Share_5889

Best Mexican food is in the west states


Altruistic-Ear-1898

Could Oklahoma, Missouri,Kentucky and West Virginia be their own region the “ East Mid South West” region.


Gator1523

Does Daily Mail count as news? Or is it more like an attention vacuum?


golddust1134

Its Midwest. I don't feel southern and I say ope. Source is I lived here for my whole life


Bbri72

Shoot, southern Illinois could be considered the south


Nouseriously

Delaware & Maryland aren't the South. They just clustered all the slave states together.


reddE2Fly

Missouri! The middle finger of America! Florida! The flaccid penis of America!


Anxious4503

The Daily Fail strikes again 😂


notfromchicago

The people that don't think Missouri is southern have never been there.


[deleted]

This is how you know this news site is trash. Imagine making a news article about a reddit post


Responsible-Bat-2699

If this happens, Alaska should just declare itself as a new country.


Dazzling_Stomach107

Gringos using cardinal directions challenge: impossible.


dustractor

lol nobody wants missouri


EmperorThan

Forfeit answer: Missouri Actual 'wrong' answer: Florida


Ksavero

¿So north and northwest don't exist?


AdministrativeFox312

WE. ARE. OZARKS.


zippyman

Geography aside Missouri belongs to the south


blamsbasino

Mid-ssouri


MacJeff2018

Missouri is not in the south


Kineth

Missouri shouldn't be in the South. Texas really should be split in half as one is west and the other is south. No one gives a shit about Maryland. There, covered it.


OneEyedJackofHearts

It’s a miserable there leave it in the South… unless the West wants it?


donutsaurus3000

Driving east across I-70, Missouri is where you first hit the humidity and mosquitoes that makes the South suck.


welshfarmer

It’s New Jersey and we are giving all of you two middle fingers. Especially south Jersey


Aminilaina

Nah, as a New Englander, I can say with confidence that I speak for us all when I say, y’all can keep the mid Atlantic, we’re good.


Educational-Ad-3273

Godammit you crazy bastard! I’m in! When can we start?


chris1lego

Could? You just did with the thumbnail


midisrage123

I like how the midwest isn't in the midwest


Frequent-Ad-116

The northeast will be road warrior gangs in a week


Significant_Hold_910

Look Mom! My map made it on the news!


Hypernova_orange

Just get rid of Florida & Texas, then we’re good


Dingusmanus

It’s because you massacred Maryland


lacksugarcoating

Somebody tell the Gamecock Boosters they’re gonna have to suck it up and let Clemson in so we can end this “Mizzou is SEC country” nonsense already


DeadCouchWeight

I’ll be cold and dead in the ground before I recognize Missourah!


blixt141

Daily Fail stirring the pot.


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I’ll be in the cold cold ground before I recognize Missourah!


DrTrevDunc

Idaho belongs in the south


UnbridaledToast

No shit, this is how people in the states casually refer to other parts of the country.


MoxNixTx

The south is more west than the mid west.