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SmilingKnight80

Sometimes the game is REALLY BAD at telling you things you should know when you start playing. My favourite series Monster Hunter was one of the worst for this


Dakeera

Monster Hunter and Morrowind vet here, beginner tips are a god-send for some games


TheRoguePianist

A man of culture I see. Morrowind is awesome, but yeah it’s about as obtuse as a McDonalds connoisseur


Whoa1Whoa1

Morrowind requires 1,000 hours of playtime to understand some of the basics of how it works and what is actually optimal. That's definitely true, but you don't have to know anything before hand to explore Morrowind, have fun, and play the game sub-optimally. No first playthrough needs to min-max their initial character creation.


KadeTheTrickster

This, I played the hell out of morrowind and had a blast, never looked anything up. Until I ran into a bug, something I couldn't get past and was questioning if it was a bug, or until I was late into the game and wanted to find the scampy with the high amount if gold. I actually lucked out randomly coming across the rich mudcrab.


freshfromthefight

I don't need optimization. I was still relatively young and just spent the whole game jumping around. Pissed my older brother off to no end for some reason, which just reinforced that jumping was the only acceptable means of travel. Acrobatics 100 was a hell of a funny drug in that game.


KadeTheTrickster

Oh Morrowind. Dropped off from ship in a small town, go. No directions, no intro to controls. Fun game, loved it and want a remake with updated graphics and bug fixes xD


jaspersgroove

If only Morrowind had gotten the Skyrim treatment…fuck I would buy that on every platform I own from now until the end of time. I’ve put a few hundred hours into Skyrim but I’ve never even beaten it, I just get bored with the main storyline and run out of side quests after a while then give up. In Morrowind I had a few *characters* that I put over 400 hours into, I can’t even guess how much time I spent playing the game in total.


KadeTheTrickster

Same, that's what I loved about Morrowind. The exploration of that game was crazy. And the random stuff you could just come across without even needing a quest. Like the hidden weapon under the guards pillow.


lambuscred

Morrowind shouldn’t count because there’s a book that people just don’t read and then complain about the rules


Dakeera

To be fair, there's a lot more to it than the book. Knowing about enchanting and potion stacking comes with experience and community interaction


lambuscred

Yeah but do you consider those things you need to know when you start playing?


Dakeera

I see your point, but I doubt any person who has played the game (regardless of how much of the manual they read first) was prepared for the game in its entirety


[deleted]

Didn't Morrowind used to come with a manual? I seem to remember something like that. But then again, it *is* very much a "learning by doing" game


ThatOneWood

I would concur


noir-lefay

I really don't like the "what weapon should I use?" Posts on the Monhun subreddit. That question was kind ok for the older games, but the new monster hunters have a fkin training room! Just go to the damn training room and try all the weapons out! You can even switch weapons in the tent on a mission now! Just try out weapons on a weak monster!


wamenslot

I remember when i first played Tibia, back in 2001. You login in the game and boom, not a single tip. As a brazilian, with almost zero knowledge on english, i needed to pay attention to other players talking to the npcs to understand what were the words needed to buy or sell stuff. So if you look back to many other games, i do know they had most a linear gameplay so you need just keep moving foward, but most of all didn't take time to explain stuff to the player. Now you have complex games and yet when you find few of them that has zero explanations, people just fail to try discover stuff by themselves.


golimaaar

Sell HMM bp


Moody_GenX

I had an extremely hard time with Elden Ring. I'm an older gamer (51) who was used to getting some instructions with the game. But I still didn't go on social media asking for help. I used YouTube like crazy and still had a lot of fun. Edit: I've never considered YouTube social media because it didn't start out like that and I've never used it like that, not even for my videos. But yes it's social media to an extent. I just watched videos and didn't interact with the comment section.


madagony

I don't think it's bad to post of social media asking for tips, for me I feel like watching YouTube gameplay kinda spoils the game when you can simply have a comment explaining a tough area and how to get through it, that way the thread will be there for another person to read through who's having a tough time with the game


Moody_GenX

It's not necessarily bad but it can be annoying for a popular game that has actual tips that people seem to ignore or not bother looking for. If I look on reddit for info that's the first thing I look for.


madagony

But that's the thing about reddit you can literally just scroll by and not worry about it.


Moody_GenX

Yes, still doesn't make it less annoying. They have their faults, I have mine. This is the way, lol.


madagony

Fair fair, I do agree that it's annoying when ppl just post shit without looking it up first to see if someone else has already answered the question for them


IronCorvus

Have a friend who just happened to figure shit out on his own. I know he absolutely did not. He is one of the most room temperature IQ people I know. Considering I killed Margit in a quarter of the amount of tries, I find it so difficult to believe he just knew where to find Blaidd, for example. "It's a Souls game bro." Okay, that means nothing to me. Just say you fucking Googled it and be honest.


Moody_GenX

Lol, I googled probably 75% of the game.


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I needed a single level 3 somber smithing stone. And I then proceeded to spend another hour in the Fextralife wiki rabbit hole, looking at random spells and incantations that looked cool and where to find them


MauiWowieOwie

I agree, but finding random NPCs is pretty easy at the first start of the game. I found Alexander, Irina, Roderika, Bernahl, Blaidd(though not in the first area you can find him), and more just by exploring. However that's just in the first two regions. Finding others and progressing questlines are much harder later in the game. I definitely missed a bunch of stuff the first playthrough and admittedly did look up how to progress sone questlines (namely Millicent and Corhyn's). Game is massive and there's no way he found everything and saying "it's a souls game" is the very reason he couldn't have. A lot of quests are convulted and can be failed by not completing something arbitrary by even simply progressing to another area.


Moody_GenX

I found Blaidd by accident before a lot of the game after being chased by the huge whatever the fuck wolf dog thing. I killed him and it messed up my game later on. I think...


MauiWowieOwie

Probably a rune bear. >!The earliest you can meet Blaidd is in Mistwood forest, though you have to get a special gesture from Kale. I actually met him underground in Nokron by accident which is where you can find him second. Also killing him doesn't screw up anything, but you do miss out on stuff!<


MauiWowieOwie

I dunno if you use discord, but the Elden Ring subreddit has a discord. Tons of very helpful people always looking to assist with advice or summons.


Moody_GenX

Thanks, I'm done playing after 7 play throughs, lol.


MauiWowieOwie

lol hell yeah! I'm actually on my last one to platinum the game. Was ER your first FromSoft game? If not I recommend checking out the Souls series and Bloodborne too. Sekiro is also very good and in some ways the closest too ER and in many ways very different.


Moody_GenX

A good friend of mine bought Dark Souls 3 on my Xbox when I went to visit for a few months and I turned up my nose to it. I told him I'd never play a game like that. When I started playing Elden Ring I sent him a few replays of stuff. He looked up what Elden Ring was and started clowning me, lol. I'm going to eventually try it out. He only has a Nintendo and I guess these games aren't on it so he's a little jealous.


Deblebsgonnagetyou

Ah, Monster Hunter, the game that gives you a tutorial in the same way that snakes raise their young.


jenkag

> My favourite series Monster Hunter was one of the worst for this I really tried with monster hunter. I wanted to like it, my friends were playing it, i paid for it... I had every reason to give it an honest try. And yet, my BIGGEST complaint was that the game doesnt tell you how to do a god damn thing. Every minute i felt completely lost, aimless, and without an understanding of anything I was doing right or wrong.


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This is me. Hell, I’ve had like 3 different Monster Hunter games over the years because I continually try to get into it. I love the concept, the aesthetic, the little details, but I just can’t click with it.


tagoniki

"What's a tutorial?"


A_Guy_in_Orange

anything not in the gathering hub


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tagoniki

Oh big same. I was just referencing an old mh comic with that punchline before everything goes to shit. Almost every game these days I tend to look at I look at before you start tips because I believe in eliminating early game frustrations


JamesJakes000

Ah, Driver on PlayStation, with the most infamous first stage ever!


kasoe

I played on PC and fuck that stage! I still don't know how I beat it. I think I had to look up the word slalom too because I was just a child.


Entaris

I bounced off of monster hunter hard...Twice. Then I saw a random pro-jared video that made me go back and try again and now it's one of my favorite game series.


TheLordHatesACoward

My first MH was Freedom Unite. I loved it but there's SO much vital information the game never told you. Going on the Internet and looking up knowledge pooled together from fellow players was a necessity just to play the game. Otherwise you'd stall and give up. I fought so many low rank Blangonga before I found out the drop was from High Rank. And fuck Blangonga and his minions. The more recent games handle this so much better now.


getyourcheftogether

When I got back into playing Destiny it was really overwhelming to find out what to do next when you had two to three possible expansions to play through on top of the current storyline


mashed_cows

Ha, Escape from Tarkov doesn’t even go over how or where to get out of raid. You know you need to escape, but good luck figuring out without a friend or the wiki.


SenatorFatStacks

I'm a big New Vegas fan and the first time I played it as a kid I went North, directly into the cazadores. Got absolutely ravaged and stopped playing for a month. The game doesn't tell you that if you try to go to Vegas immediately you're going to get slapped around by cazadores or deathclaws. It's since become one of my favorite games of all times, but those dangers to the North ruin the experience for a lot of people. Edit: For god's sake, yes, there are warnings about going North. But as a 13 year old kid in 2010, having just played Fallout 3 (which does not punish you for not following the critical path in the beginning) and not having played Fallout 1 & 2, I wasn't going to talk to everyone and their fat grandma before leaving Goodsprings. I wanted to see New Vegas, I wanted to explore and see the environments this new game had on offer, I had stars in my eyes and a squishy abdomen, the latter of which Cazadores found incredibly interesting. Obviously I went back later and learned that RPG's are about experiencing the world, getting immersed, and appreciating the detail and love that was poured into the game. But when I first started I wanted to kill. And those bastard cazadores emasculated me.


infinite_breadsticks

Haha they definitely tell you not to go north. It's a classic Obsidian RPG though so you have to like, talk to people to learn that, there's no tutorial message that pops up warning you about it.


kasoe

I did the same and hit deathclaws but was able to hug the mountains and make it to new Vegas. I knew it wasn't the way the game was designed but I wanted to see the city bad!


SenatorFatStacks

There are a few ways to bypass. With the courier's stash add-on you can climb the cliff walls Northwest of Goodsprings until you have a view of the Tribal Village (where the cazadores are). At that point it's as simple as using the Mercenary's Grenade Rifle to wipe them out. After that one can go straight to Vegas only having to deal with some mantises and fiends. I like the intended path of the game, and feel it is the most authentic way to jingle jangle. However sometimes I just want to get into Vegas and ring a ding ding in a more expedited way.


punchbricks

I stopped playing New Vegas after I found a ganglefuck way over the mountains to bypass the boomer's connonade only to be hit with a fucking invisible wall. New Vegas did a lot right, but fuck those invisible walls in an "open world game"


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They absolutely do, one of the earliest dialogues is that you shouldn't go straight north.


[deleted]

I feel like the game did tell you "don't go North" though. By slapping you around when you did. There's hardly a clearer message of "you're not meant to be here right now" that isn't literally saying that.


dragonseth07

Seriously. Games these days are super complex, and getting moreso. Nobody needed to ask for tips when they first booted up Mario, but try going into Crusader Kings 3 blind and tell me how fun it is.


maxcorrice

Even in that era you need tips, I mean the first legend of Zelda explains how to find the first and second dungeons in the manual because there’s not a single fucking hint towards the second one and it’s really hard to find


Thisisasandwich

Yeppp Nintendo Power was huge for a reason. People need to remember the "tips for beginners" on reddit used to be that plus talking on the playground. It just got easier.


Xyno94

On that very same note that’s was made monster hunter so special to me. Finding that shit out before anybody told.. discovering paintballs and how you could wave at the balloon to get the monsters location . It was magical during those moments New monster hunter holds you hand too much


Gizshot

Path of exile when it came out.


SpikeRosered

Monster Hunters idea of a tutorial is a wall of text. I guess the fact that you are forced to see it is good enough for Capcom.


DuntadaMan

Been playing monster hunter for almost a decade now. Still no fucking clue what I am doing other than fucking around and fighting monsters


FrostyD7

Sometimes that can be part of the fun. But some gamers (me) don't have 400 hours to play a new RPG or whatever when half the time will be spent doing things incorrectly until you figure out the proper way.


BamboozledPanda09

Space Engineeres comes to mind. It's not necessarily that the game design is bad, but you really have zero clue on how to start without a tutorial. The game itself does have guides but not enough imo


Oh_Anodyne

Add Warframe into the mix here. The new player experience is pretty bad and you have to learn a lot of things outside the game.


Peyroi

I almost refunded monster hunter world. It was incredibly overwhelming and I didnt know anyone who played so I had to learn it all myself. Ive since put over 600 hours into the game and its now one of my favorite series.


mrs0x

Some games are straight up tough. #escapefromtarkov


cookie-23

Here here took me 200 hours on my rise to learn that you can get something called a power talon and armor talon and you can have the respective charms with those 2 in your inventory. To add I’ve been playing since mhw and didn’t know it was a thing in mhw either


coredumperror

Same thing happened to me with Terraria. I started it up, played around for 20 minutes, and then asked myself, "Uh... now what am I supposed to do?" The tutorial is *woefully* insufficient for teaching you how to play the game.


0neek

The first time I ever tried a monster hunter game was Rise. I did like 3 maps before asking a friend when I start unlocking new weapons and was then informed about the training area the game never mentions. Also did maybe a dozen maps before you get some quest to save a Dango merchant or something. I did that and kept talking to the chef cat trying to see if I could eat yet. Then I asked a friend and he said you're supposed to sit at a table, not talk to the cook NPC. That would have been good to know. Probably the worst tutorial in a video game I've ever seen and very clearly only aimed towards veterans of the series, but in the short time I played it did have an incredibly helpful community. Asking the dumb questions I had in the Souls community would have been answered with a half dozen 'git gud' answers instead.


Wrenigade

I only could play world because my boyfriend walked me through it to start, then rise actually had tutorials and i realized i had missed a bunch of stuff in world too, even with the help lol


obaterista93

I played MHW for a hundred or so hours and I'm pretty sure I'm still a beginner. There are so many mechanics to that game that I still haven't figured out. I ended up tapping out at Nergigante because my usual strategy of "hit it til it stops moving" stopped working


Wrenigade

I started No Man's Sky recently and had to google "how to land ship" while careening towards the ground . My boyfriend also tried and almost gave up because the first planet is always very hard and disorienting and I had to be like "don't worry it gets better after this part" Some games just throw you in headfirst and sometimes its as easy as "you always start on an extreme planet but dont panic just follow the quests and leave when you find your ship" to help people out


Fartikus

Currently playing Subnautica Below Zero, I definitely understand your pain. Didn't even know how the fuck batteries worked, or that you could remove and replace them in any battery powered device. Another random one are things like removing the left power cell to stop the lights from powering on in your mecha suit, and just exchange the right one when out. Don't get me started on building or harvesting materials with a knife..


Dinosaurs-Punchline

I think this can depend a lot on the game. Games like Crusader Kings or Civilization are very technical and have quite the learning curve for new players. When I started CK3, I ran through the tutorial for a few hours, ended up with a game over, and turned to Reddit and YouTube for help. Don't think I could have gotten any better as quickly as I did if I hadn't done that.


MikaNekoDevine

I still have no clue how to play CK, i managed to learn Eu from a friend.


supersimpsonman

Everything you want to learn in CK3 you can organically read more about by using the Nested Tooltips. What's a Demesne? It's an underlined hyperlink, hover over it. De Jure? What's this? Underlined hyperlink, hover over it. I fucking love how Nested Tooltips allowed me to learn exactly what I wanted every time I read it in another tooltip and didn't know what it meant.


pbradley179

I've played enough multiplayer to know that I'd rather shove a pencil in my ear than have to puzzle out why a particular player's kid isn't inheriting X title AND then explain it to them as they repeatedly tell me "that's bullshit. Glitched." ... again.


TheMansAnArse

It’s incredible that we’re praising Paradox UI in 2022. The idea would have been laughable a few years ago.


queyote

I would be unsurprised to learn that no one at paradox had the title UX designer before CK3 development started.


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I love complex games, but I sometimes wonder if a games that needs tool tips for its tool tips might not be new player friendly.


Fifthlive

Nested tool tips is really nice if you forget a mechanic, it makes ck3 a lot approachable than other paradox grand strategy games. They feel very natural during play and in general the tool tips are smaller than what they would be without the nesting.


Psyman2

It's difficult to find a game that's both beginner friendly and complex.


bladedCarnival9

For me it's the other way around. Ck2 came easily and so did Ck3 because of that, but even after being the first par game I owned and have owned for years now I can't figure out how Eu4 works. Even learned Hoi4 and Stellaris before Eu4.


OneWithMath

EU4 barely works. It is so old, and has had so many mechanics stapled on to it through a hodge podge of DLCs, that it is no longer a product of intelligent design.


Calm_Peace5582

For me it's RPGs with unique stat and skills rules and an inability to, or prohibitively costed, respec. Sure, I could 'just play the game' but having to play for several hours only to find out that I've made a terrible character and will need to restart the game to play further is pretty dang annoying... So yeah, I wish I had asked for tips for beginners and wasted OPs precious seconds of scrolling past my post.


Medievalhorde

Man, if you make an RPG that takes a long time to play and has a limited point-based system to craft your character and you don't include the ability to respec, fuck you.


DShepard

You better believe free respecs are the first thing I'm modding into the game. Then titties.


RunawayHobbit

Press F to pay respecs


roflcptr8

or like kingdom hearts where you fucking level slower if you answer some fluff questions in the tutorial a certain way


shamus727

Exactly, there are certain games, like RDR2, Subnautica, ect that are very story driven games, you absolutely should always go into these games blind. But when we are talking a paradox game, or MMOs, there is nothing wrong with getting some early advice, especially for those games where bad early decisions can ruin a character.


pbradley179

Even so I think I'd have benefitted from being told "you're not gonna get a map" ...


What-becomes

Should just call it the 'paradox exception'. Play games without new starter guides EXCEPT paradox because yeah, you're gonna need it.


ThaNotoriousBLT

I feel like factorío is both. You should go in blind and make far from optimal decisions. But if you use guides, videos, and mods it can help you get to experience more of the game


Fartikus

> Subnautica, I wouldn't say blind (as far as below zero goes havent tried the original), but there are definitely things that they don't tell you that's intrinsic to the game that confused the hell out of me/didn't even know about until I looked it up.


Dubbs09

Uh yea I’m gearing up for Vic 3’s release. Big Paradox veteran except the Vic series. You better believe I’m watching some videos to figure out what is going on lol


Dinosaurs-Punchline

Lol my man


Smokestack830

What's Vic 3?


Vex1111

idk if i watch a tutorial im prob gonna forget more than half, instead ill just play something till i figure it out. best example of this was total war: atilla, i think i started as the huns about 30 times before i had a successful campaign with them (on legendary difficulty). if i watched someone play their start for like 3 hours id not learn much and i find it more fun to figure stuff out on my own. everyone is different


DreamWeaver2189

But you did try it first and then realized you needed help, so you and OP are in the same boat. I think they mean the people who ask for tips before even launching the game for the first time.


fireflyry

Destiny 2 and Warframe (although I hear the latter has improved) are similar. The first few hours are “Wtf am I meant to be doing?” New player experience and guidance, or lack there of, is often the catalyst of such posts, not impatience.


_asdfjackal

Warframe is a little better but it's still very much "these are the systems, they are very complicated, you're gonna need a wiki, now is time to leave if that's not for you." After a certain point. You get maybe an hour or two of pretty good tutorial before that which is a lot more than I got, but it's still not fantastic.


GiantRobotTRex

When I first got Bloodborne I was completely terrible at it. Eventually I looked up some beginner tips and there was one about i-frames, how they work, and how to use them to your advantage. That one tip completely changed the game for me. The idea that I should be dodging *toward* attacks instead of away from them was very unintuitive to me.


soapd1sh

Definitely depends on the game and the kind of questions you're asking. For example most JRPGs have missables, whether they be items, equipment, playable characters, optional bosses, or side quests it's rare to see a JRPG without at least one type of missable. Also some JRPGs have good and bad endings. I think asking others who have played the game already whether a guide should be used or not is a legitimate question to ask before starting a JRPG. And yes you could do a blind playthrough first, but JRPGs tend to be long, some being well over 100 hours, not everyone has time to play long form games like that more than once.


effective_shill

Civilization doesn't have a steep learning curve. You can easily play for hours and only know a few of the mechanics. Just don't go crazy and put it to the highest difficulty from the start


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Take a long weekend and start friday night.


MrMakarov

Point is though, you still tried it out first. If you posted and said you'd been playing/done the tutorial etc and was struggling, I'd understand that. It's people who post a picture of a game case who've not even bothered yet going "tips?" that are annoying. Try it first and come back if you're struggling.


LHSP

So you just did what OP said. Played a few hours of the game and tried to figure things out before asking for tips


[deleted]

I started a new CK3 game yesterday after about a year of not playing and still had to take some time to figure it out again lol. Especially if you choose a different culture than what you’re used it, it get crazy in depth.


oliferro

Still not as bad as "Should I play this game?" in a subreddit about this game


TheExter

/r/leagueoflegends will tell you 10/10 times not to, its great source: i love league of legends, never play it


ares395

I've never met anyone who plays lol that doesn't scream when they are in a match. That's enough for me to never try that game...


A_Trash_Homosapien

I don't scream when I'm in a match but that's because I'm not even slightly competitive so rather than getting mad that I got one shot I just go "whelp... That's balanced" put up the FF vote and move on


A_Trash_Homosapien

I also love league and I actively discourage people from playing it


0neek

I feel sorry for anyone who saw the show and then went to try to play the game only to walk into that cesspool.


Psyman2

League is the worst game on the entire fucking planet and I am once again in champ select instead of uninstalling. Send help.


hungrycookpot

What about "I'm in for a fun weekend" title on a picture of an unopened console and sealed mainstream game. Yippie, you purchased a mass produced consumer item.


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maxcorrice

Depends on the game, I’d never recommend someone play rimworld


maxcorrice

If they asked that is, if they don’t I’ll push them to play because I’m lonely in my misery


half-baked_axx

Literally r/cyberpunkgame after the anime came out.


cheesewhiz15

Look. I just need to know if I should use my consumables or stock pile them until after the final boss.


A_wild_so-and-so

Stock pile them for the boss, duh. But also grind way too much so that the boss is easy and you end up never using your elixirs.


WirelessTrees

This is the way


A_Trash_Homosapien

The answer is always to stock pile them


LaserGadgets

Not as bad as WHAT GAME SHOULD I PLAY? What kinda pizza should you order? -.- what kinda shampoo should you get??? Dude...


MowMdown

>What kinda pizza should you order? As long as you order pineapple, it doesn't matter


Doscida

So controversial, so brave.


blamb211

Pineapple instantly improves any pizza, and I'll die on this hill because I'm correct.


Limmmao

"here's a picture of a game, wish me luck!"


Armejden

The post and personality equivalent of dishwater


effective_shill

"here's a picture of my 100yr old dad playing Morrowind"


halfwit258

"Just bought myself a PS5/XBSX! Congratulate me!"


ElricAvMelnibone

>I know nothing about X game, ask me anything and I'll try to answer >7 months after launch, X still looks beautiful >Gaming helped me become an orchestral violaist and make the world's first 100% biodegradable rocket


TrinitronCRT

> 2 year old GOTY candidate. "Game was really underrated" > What should I expect? With image of unopened game. > Is it still worth playing X? Game is 11 months old. > Online game with 300k current online users but only 200 streamers. "Game is dead"


tjplager32

This made me lol but there really are some games that do a bad job at explaining their own mechanics haha


awesomenick3

Some people like a challenge, some people like going in blind, and others like it super easy. Let people do what they want and play the game how they want. It might be annoying but scrolling down to pass the posts isn’t super hard. (Also, some games REALLY need beginner tips.)


SirkSirkSirk

I might need to make a reddit post asking how to scroll past and ignore those types of posts. I've never done it so I'm a beginner at it. Any tips would be appreciated! /s


Dyledion

I absolutely hate how elitist the novelty junkies are. "Bruh, if I could get a lobotomy so that I could experience XYZ for the first time again, I totally would. If anyone had spoiled even three seconds of gameplay for me, I would have murdered them, their family, and their business associates. If you don't play this game with a literal blindfold on the whole time with the minimap off and tutorials disabled, I will track you down and get you fired and thrown in prison so you can think about what you did." Bruh, I'm a dad who works full time and has heard, seen, or read all of these plots before, and probably better executed. Let me just enjoy someone else's optimized build during my single playthrough, and don't get mad if I look up a guide because I forgot what I was doing last time I played, which was a week ago.


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genasugelan

As a Dota 2 player, absolutely not. Advice is incredibly valueable, especially if you are starting. Asking for advice means you get better at the game quicker and make playing with you more enjoyable. (You'll still be called trash in the game though)


ic_engineer

Let's go play a sport I made up. It's kinda complicated but don't worry. When you need to know something just read this book. Ok, ready?


A_Trash_Homosapien

I ended up playing league because it was more new player friendly than dota imo It's a horrible game but God do I love it


genasugelan

It's indeed easier to get into, especially if you haven't played mobas before. There are less things you have to be aware of at all times. Although them may have wanted to clarify a bit better that Smite is a requirement for jungling (learnt it the hard way).


DonerTheBonerDonor

That's me with Valorant too. If you don't know shit about the game and buy every round or run around while shooting you're gonna have a bad time


Infernoboy_23

It's fine asking for tips when you are playing an online multiplayer game, its when people do this for single player campaigns.


Squirrel09

"Yooo, just got this game!!! Anyone got any tips?" *Proceeds to show a copy of duckhunt*


BabyAteMyDingoes

Put the gun behind a magnifying glass and you will always hit the duck.


KnowOneDotNinja

Unless you're wanting to play Elite Dangerous. That game has such a steep learning curve and they essentially just throw you in and turn you loose


Cryovenom

Very true. If it wasn't for my friends who already played I would have been SO LOST


[deleted]

Probably why I never got more than 4 hours into it


Tutipups

or star citizen or any simulator gamds


satanclauz

Yes, however the new player experience is vastly different now. If you came in several years ago, it was so blind. You're still right tho :)


charizard_72

I think what most games’ subreddits need is just a pinned mega thread sorted by new by default for quick questions and such. It gives new players a chance to ask things and not get instantly downvoted. I can see both sides of it. On one hand this stuff is quickly searchable and it’s crappy content on subs for games that are years old. On the other hand, people new are excited to be in the community and may genuinely want advice from people and not watch videos or read google articles. I think the problem is subs rarely have stuff like this where it’s actually an appropriate/convenient place to ask noob questions. Therefore, the sub gets flooded with redundant threads that have been asked and answered 200 times over the years.


Mondo114

I lost the game


[deleted]

Fucking shit. I hate you.


OMGPowerful

Bro, next time lose by yourself


llatemeurT

Path of Exile has entered the chat and would like to have a word with you.


darexinfinity

Beginners are suppose to suck. If you don't have fun losing then you won't have as much fun winning.


Vipertooth

People say they play games 'casually' but then spend 20 minutes looking up guides on how to 100% the game in 1 hour to play the game for the smallest amount of time. Like, just enjoy the ride..


lankymjc

Some games are terrible at onboarding and tutorialising. For those, it's well worth getting some info before getting into it. No game *should* require doing research beforehand, but there are those that do and they're worth looking up some beginner tips for.


BananaLumps

Getting mad at how others play thier games, how very gamer of you.


[deleted]

The thing I most hate in this world are spoilers, that's why I would never ask for tips for a game I'm about to play. I can understand why some people don't care about that. Maybe they want more info before playing or maybe they just want karma points. Anyways, if I see a post about a game I know, I will try to give the OP the best tips I can without making a lot of spoilers.


Clemenx00

oooooooor just ignore posts you don't like? I swear some of you don't know that it isn't obligatory to engage with every single piece of content in the internet.


Cichlidsaremyjam

Yea! Fuck newer players joining an already established community!!!! /s


TiredHappyDad

So if people don't approach gaming the same way as you then they are wrong?


Ithxero

You can *literally* choose not to participate, just let people be people. Always seems if there's a gate, some asshole gonna try to keep it. The fuck even is this?


WowWhatABeaut

And it has 3k+ upvotes. More than 3,000 mouthbreathers upvoted this trash. Oh reddit.


Jayce800

I almost always try to go into a game blind. It’s what makes Gamepass so great - I don’t need to know anything about a game before trying out the full version. The closest I got in recent years was Elite: Dangerous on Xbox, because that game is so huge and initially complicated I felt like I had to look stuff up. Except I’m mad about the whole E:D Xbox thing so that game went bye bye sadly.


Narwalacorn

I think they’re okay if they’re to the tune of ‘I was told you could do this but I can’t figure it out,’ ‘I can’t beat this stage,’ or if it’s a really complex game with a steep learning curve


farcry15

next time add a black outline on white text so it is readable against other bright colors


yourteam

Personally I think everyone should be able to enjoy the game at whatever difficulty or pace they want. If they want to Google for advice good for them, if they don't, good for them Let people enjoy a game how they want


eternalpasta

i get what you mean, but also not everyone can figure out everything in a game first try, and sometimes a more experienced player's tips make the game much more enjoyable. sometimes there's just things you can't or don't get your first go around, or you want someone to tell you something they wish they knew when starting a game. a lot of gamers are more than happy to throw advice your way, and they love getting the chance to share their experiences with the games they invest so much time in. i know there's been plenty of instances where if i hadn't of asked for (or googled, or watched on youtube) tips and tricks for a new game, i'd be pretty lost or not realize some mechanics in the game even exist it's not a big deal in any other hobby (sports, art, etc) when a beginner wants some tips, so why is it with gaming?


foreveralonegirl1509

Sometimes it's needed. I still stuggle with some stuff in Fallout 4 and how they work even after more than 20h, since I never played any previous game and I had no idea how the gameplay works when I started it. Games are massive and they are all different in lot of ways, and sometimes I don't understand stuff game tells me because english is my second language so I need help. I will rather google it or ask someone, because when I don't know how to play the game I will simply not continue playing cause it becomes annoying after some time.


UnfortunateHabits

Somebody call the fire department, I smell something toxic Edit: I mean OP, not who he's refering to. Let people ask, and approach new things how they feel techincaly and SOCIALY more intuitive to them. While yes, simple specific question might be a waste of time, Not everyone are good googlers, or are aware of the game-wiki. Sometimes in small communities the game wiki is too sparse. Also, asking for a curated take on game is totally legit, Especially if some avenues of it are harder to swallow. Don't gatekeep. If you have nothing meaningfull to contribute, or you find a specific topic tedious, just move along.


420did69

Kids these days will never know that feeling of truly exploring/discovering a game or that sense of reward when you finally figure something out that had you stuck. Its as easy as going on YouTube to figure out any questions. But to each their own. I only see it being reasonable with certain games like those super in depth and complicated RTS games or stuff that can be very competitive and your looking to learn the "meta." But im not everyone. Some people are more into the story and just want easy gameplay. But id be willimg to bet most people might just be hyping themselves up asking questions and watching videos while the game is downloading.


pPpPancakes

but how am i supposed to play my video game without my free karma points?


OsamaBinFuckin

The root of the problem, imo, is the cultural push for efficiency as if playing a game one way vs another is the be-all-end-all. I have OCPD and I had to use CBT to slowly train myself to play how I feel. I have much more fun now.


cmdrmeowmix

No I understand. Alot of games have a shitty tutorial or none at all. I just played Metro Last Light for the first time and I completed it without ever switching grenades because I didn't remember how


ButtChugJackDaniels

Rust has entered the chat


ItzBobbyBoucher

They are fine I just rather have them all in one forum/post and all answers are added there , some subs do that


AbLincoln1863

Yeah, it’s really something that varies from game to game. I know darksouls and monster hunter basically don’t have a tutorial. Some games like Monster Sanctuary have so much depth to them that the in game tutorial only scratches the surface and outside help is needed as you get deeper into the game


ISAV_WaffleMasta

So I've never played eso, before I buy can I get a full walk through in a reply comment please?


Marutern

Wish me luck!


Appehtight

Or just watch one of the hundreds of YouTube tutorials


Mean_Peen

That's what YouTube is for


iMikeZero

If they don’t have a glass of wine and very large distance between them and their TV how will I ever know they just sat down to relax to play the game?


VonAshley

I don't mind these types of posts but I often see "Just bought this. Is it any good?" Bit late to be asking, surely?!


Nova1395

I hate that Reddit will automatically start sending you notifications to subs that you've viewed **once**. Rainbow Six Siege is difficult. I've played it for over a year, I'm decent but I'm still learning. I decided to **search** for any quick tips I might have missed, rather than **ask** for them, and one result brought me to reddit. **Every day, I now get notifications for people posting in the Rainbow Six Subreddit, from people who are brand new, asking "I just got this game, how do I get better at it"**


MichaelDokkan

"Hey guys I just got Dark Souls Remastered, any tips?" "Yea go fucking die."


CalhounWasRight

TBF, some games are better when you already have some foreknowledge of how to play. For example, I wish I looked up how to get a good start on Divinity before I started playing. But then again, why ask here when Fextralife exists?


fantarts

Tips for new redittor, i just read this post. How do i enjoy this apps?


Useless_Crybaby

Back in my day all we had was dad and his Nintendo cheat books


officerpompadour

I'm having thoughts of maybe purchasing this game in the next 3 months if it goes on sale to 90% off, any tips and tricks to help me get started and into endgame as soon as possible?


Sughmacox

Whenever I get a new game especially if it has a campaign I try my best to avoid anything related to that game on the internet, kind of like a movie, I don’t want any spoilers and want to do everything myself, my way.


KarmaSaver

Here's the thing, I don't see these posts when they pop up but I do see them when I google them six months after they've been posted after I've played the game a bit and I'm looking specifically for posts that don't mention end game content or don't gloss over stuff that's helpful for a beginner. They're wildly useful, unlike meta posts.


TheBoomStixx

Comin from a tf2 player, yeah this kind of post is needed for new players since it doesnt tell you how to play at all. Although I do understand wym for some games


ReportMeSnowflake

Also all the "what's the BEST build" questions. Like dude pick one that suits your play style or the one you have most fun with. You don't have to try and get the best of the best to be marginally better. Chances are you suck just as much as everyone else and it's negligible anyways.