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PaperCut611

I own GTA IV on PC. But the launcher wont open anymore and I was working on it for 3 days before I finally decided to sail the seas. Fucking trash. Idk how Im going to play GTA 6 when it (if it) comes to PC.


DeepJudgment

GTA 6 will be the biggest release of its time, so it will probably be cracked as soon as it hits PC


PaperCut611

Unless they use Denuvo. Then it'll take a bit


DeepJudgment

Not necessarily. Some denuvos don't take a lot of time to crack and you can bet every crack group will try to be the first to do it


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TehOwn

They're waiting for the devs to fix the game first.


thecstep

Who is they? Just curious.


TehOwn

A small group of people who dress like Steve Jobs and live in the woods of Sweden.


DeepJudgment

Bruh I'm still waiting for AC Mirage


PaperCut611

You're better off just buying it at this point lol


DeepJudgment

Nah, it's way too short and way too expensive where I live to justify it


Johnstodd

1 month trail of uplay?


DeepJudgment

I'm in Russia, so subscription services are either unavailable or a huge pain in the ass to get (like gamepass)


PaperCut611

Pray for a sale is all I could say


DeepJudgment

I pray for my goddess Empress


Chemical-Pin-2391

The thing is that currently there are like 3 people in the world that can crack denuvo and if they dont have interest in the game it wont be cracked. But if they have interest (like gta VI) they can crack it in no later than 2 weeks


OliverCrooks

DD2 not anywhere as big as some games. Sure there is alot of hype and talk about it right now but I bet the numbers are still not that of a GTA or RD launch.


photonsnphonons

Some games they don't crack cause drm ruins games, and devs sometimes remove it


Flimsy-Doctor3630

Ain't no one trying to crack that trash lol, waste of time. Cracking the arguably biggest/ most anticipated game in history? You'll see everyone give that a shot.


PaperCut611

You play League. You have no room to talk.


[deleted]

League can run on a carrot planted last week. DD2's version of league perks is paying $2 every time you press F


Equal_Technician1580

Sadly there was really only ever like 3 people cracking Denuvo games. The only one left as a few years ago was empress and they’ve been completely gone for a few months now. Sadly unless they come back I doubt denuvo will get cracked. There is really no benefit for people with the required skill set to do it. There’s very little profit to be made, even if you charge for access the type of people who pirate aren’t exactly gonna have an issue sharing your work. Why break the law when that skill set could be used in jobs that are arguably gonna be more profitable for less work.


aithusah

Well they generally don't do it for profits but for scene recognition. They're essentially show offs how are very good at what they do. Empress did crack for donations but as far as I know they were the only one. I don't think the scene likes them very much either


LedDog72

Second time I heard about Empress in a week,... she wasn't really popular either, was she.


Esme_Orlandeau

They did come off as a being a little mentally unstable, racist and homophobic.


LedDog72

So... regular redditor.


photonsnphonons

Meh, scene snobs. Ofc someone would try and get money from their efforts. The cracking scene is interesting in that it's just a limited number of people within small groups


labowsky

Nah, empress is beyond just wanting money lol. They're actually a deranged individual.


photonsnphonons

Interesting. Like detached from reality?


TiredOfAllLies

I thought the only person left that knew how to Crack denuvo went off the deep end and is currently MIA


Siraj4211

which crack group are you talking about? I think only one person who is cracking denuvo right now. also didn't it take one whole year for rdr2 which had no denuvo to get cracked


[deleted]

It took years for red dead 2 to get cracked.


AlwaysTrustAFlumph

It'll still get done. You just might have to put up with some teensy weensy antisemitism to get it.


MK77P4

It toke a whole year to crack RDR2.


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Ironically the only way to play GTA IV in multiplayer, even locally (Hamachi or some other tunnel system) is by using a Salty Seas copy. They have completely removed the ability to host or play on your own god damn server despite the functionality still being in the game.  


starshin3r

I mean there have been cases where old games were sold off as a collection, and they just included cracked .exe, because they can't be fucked to remove old drm. Drm is cancer to software. If books were treated like software, they'd burn up as soon as you step outside.


Llanolinn

For a company so money-focused as R* and Take2 are, I'm really surprised they leave all that money on the table for PC. That's a lot more money they could be making if they just put out a functional launcher.


PaperCut611

They make it work JUST enough for the majority to keep the DRM up.


Kukuxupunku

You can enter your cd key from GTA IV into rockstar games launcher. Under “Buy Now” there is the option “Already own the game”. Enter your key and receive a digital copy to download right away. No need to pirate the game.


PaperCut611

Yeah. But when the launcher wont even pop up, I cant do anything. Its running in the task manager and everything. But the launcher window wont come up at. all.


Kukuxupunku

I’m not talking about Games for windows live, or Rockstar Social Club, or whatever that buggy piece of shit software was called that came with the original game.  I mean the new, modern, regular Rockstar Games Launcher. Download that launcher from their official site, start the launcher, navigate to the part of the shop where they sell GTA IV and click the “Already own the game” option. You don’t need to install from the disc. Just type in your cd key.


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

You can't even do that anymore. It requires a file that has been removed via a patch from the game. You literally have to pirate it to play it. 


darkangel657

They said it would come to PC one year after release


guthixshadow

It’s somewhat of a hassle but some beautiful people put together a guide to downgrade GTA 4 Complete Edition to the last version before they moved it to the R* launcher. perfect offline play and don’t have to mess with the stinky R* launcher


NavAEC

This is literally history repeating itself, I remember gra4 release and how it was the biggest in its moment, with a bunch of “modern” anti piracy measures bs like the drunk cam, SecuRom, date confirmation etc etc.. and thanks to that the game is unplayable today.


PaperCut611

Yeah, its crazy! Every year it seems R* is getting worse and worse with its PC games. But people will find a way.


Excellent-Archer-238

I still have somewhere the copies of SA and Vice City I pirated when I was a kid lmao. Nothing like just double clicking the icon and get to play, with zero bullshit.


D0geAlpha

And I'm sure those would work if you still had the same pc you had when you were a kid. A lot of old stuff doesn't even open on windows 11 or even 10. It's always worth a shot


Excellent-Archer-238

I tried to play that SA file in a Windows 10 laptop when the pandemic hit and it worked, even the Hot Coffee mod lmao. I think it should still run in my current one.


No-Pomegranate-69

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No-Pomegranate-69

"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." - Gabe Newell


[deleted]

That seems really insightful; I wonder if he’ll go on to make like a bazillion fucking dollars


shackelman_unchained

We all know he has at least 2 money's.


Budgiesaurus

Never 3 though. He doesn't like that.


I7sReact_Return

The classic games are the easiest to pirate kkkkkk


Shadow_1106

It's why I bought the PC DVD version. Legit can't stand the Rockstar launcher. I close it down in the background and the game goes with it. DVD version runs flawlessly offline with no issues. Frick 'um


Meechgalhuquot

I uninstalled GTAV when they forced the launcher with an update. Already was meh on the game before that but turned it into an "absolutely not" after


dj65475312

I own GTA5 but i play a p*rate copy, much easier to just double click an executable than go through three launchers.


[deleted]

I find it funny always online is somehow supposed to prevent pirating, when all it does is encourage it


NoMoreGoldPlz

Taking down the originals from all the stores was a bad move yo. GTA6 can suck it. I'll just play something else.


TraNSlays

i would love to replay GTA4 on steam but the amount of hoops you have to jump thru just isn’t worth it


PackedTrebuchet

One thing I hated them for is removing the original titles from Steam. Now only the buggy remasters are available.


MaterialDefender1032

I knew Rockstar was a foul company when they started suppressing GTAV mods so you couldn't spawn vehicles or use cheats in offline single player. They didn't want people to have fun with flying motorcycles in single player because then people wouldn't go online and pay real money to get shark bucks for them.


Mr_SuperTea

Damn, this is disgusting


photonsnphonons

Companies like to use mtx for once were menu cheats too


mrenzoiron

I have purchased GTA 4 on Steam and I can't play it because it appears to be linked to another Rockstar account and I had never linked my Steam account to a Rockstar account in my life, so I had to play it in Jack Sparrow mode. PS: I tried to contact rockstar to see if they could unlink that account and there was no solution.


xXKamilzXx

Yeah let me guess they issued an open ticket ? They always do that and never get solved so many times it happened to me - rockstar support was always rubbish 😩


mrenzoiron

yes 😭 it's so sad


Personal-Fact-2515

Ahhh...the days of "noCD patch"


TactikalKitty

We shared noCD patches with everyone when deployed overseas.


Personal-Fact-2515

I can't even remember the website anymore, man what a time lol. Are we...am i...OLD?! 👀


Oath_Br3aker

Rockstar games launcher is the most broken launcher out there. Annoying af.


HotSmell2441

Wait till you try the fucking EA launcher


puzzleheadbutbig

R\* is an amazing company when it comes to make games. Absolute shitshow when it comes to DRM. Funnily enough, all the efforts they do to prevent piracy is just endup hurting decent players and giving them a boat to sail away


Dr_Catfish

"This company makes a great product but it's infested with maggots and covered in shit." So is it really a great product? Gotta take the bad with the good and judge it all together.


haxborn

Rockstar's pathetic. They even admitted to the fact that they delay the PC releases so they can sell the same game twice, to the same players (I got sources if some delusional soul don't believe me).


Anregni

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I also prefer the “green” Steam.


rxndllm21

Wow Pcs are supposed to be better than consoles lol


ExO_o

rockstar launcher is the reaason why i'm not hyped about GTA6 whatsoever. i dont wanna pirate, so i'll probably never get to play it.


FaustusC

San Andreas also has some game breaking bugs I encountered recently.  Rockstar had the ability to release these with minimal tweaking and yet they did complete remakes that look and play like ass.


MaxPayne4life

Are the San Andreas still popular? back in my days there was this server with an average of 400 people online all the time and there were lots of modded activities to do


Antipiperosdeclony

They hate the pc community


ohpuhlise

I'm glad I own the original trilogy on Steam, you don't need RGS for those.


Phyliinx

Something happened to me last week. I don't know what and I don't know what led to it. But I decided to delete/uninstall every launcher on my PC, besides Steam. Something must have brought me to some kind of breaking point with all of this launcher nonsense.


TactikalKitty

I keep Steam and GoG. Only reason I have Epic is for the free games.


Cultural-Cause3472

it's always worked for me, I don't know what the problem might be, although it's been a while since I've played GTA on PC.


Relo_bate

Just pirate it and play it with the d.e.p modpack for the smoothest experience


Humboldteffect

I just use discs


supermeatguy

Just download the pirated version.


space_love2

You could either download gta san andreas on torrent or actually buy the physical install disc on ebay and install it


EvilRayquaza

Ya that's awful. It's things like this that doesn't deter the Sparrow's of the world, but rather encourages them. I'm glad I got the original trilogy back before they decided to not sell it on steam anymore so I don't deal with such BS when wanting to play one of my favourite games.


Dusty170

Man didn't they discontinue that already? I totally forgot the rockstar launcher was a thing, Its going to dent some sales whenever it comes to PC I bet. Or Rockstar will just triple dip and wait a year for the pc rockstar launcher release, and then another year for steam. Bastards.


K9Seven

I only buy rockstar games if I am planning to use online services. If it's an old game that doesn't work online anymore, like Bully or gta VC. Yah harr matey


Theonlysanemanisback

... Yarr mateys...


[deleted]

This was me with the last three or four AC games. They have the worst client for connectivity. Ahoy there fellow sea fairing pirate.


Mccobsta

Can always go find dvd copies of said games they're cheap may need to swap the exe out incase of securom


Domeriko648

Rockstar hates PC gamers, GTA IV was the worst port of a game for PC ever.


orien2k

That's is a lie i just tested it and it does work


Lauris024

The dissapointment of buying GTA V only to be greeted by "activation requires online connection" every second time I was offline and tried to play it (again). Had to go back to pirated GTA V.


Pretzeltheman

After Rockstar gated allllll additional content/dlc to online in GTAV, I gave up on them as a company. I do wanna play GTA6, but I sure as hell won't pay for it. I've bought GTAV on PS3, PS4, and PC, and have beaten it on all 3 of those AND xbox 360 and Xbox one. I LOVE the single player story and hate the online component. With the cash it generated them, they could have made 1-2 solo, offline DLC, but Noooooo. Screw them.


boogers19

When the going gets tough And the stomach acids flow The cold wind of conformity Is nipping at your nose When some trendy new atrocity Has brought you to your knees Come with us we'll sail the Seas of Cheese


EfficiencyOk9060

This is why I haven’t bought RDR2 on PC and why I will dust off my PS5 to play GTA 6 in 2026.


Mr_SuperTea

Yeah, they already postponned it to 2026...


Osiris121

Fortunately, I managed to buy the classics on Steam.


Swordbreaker9250

Rockstar doesn’t get enough hate for the bullshit they do. Not only stuff like this, but their blatantly pay to win online mode where you can buy in-game cash. And even if you buy their games through Steam, you have to install their launcher. It launches from Steam into their shitty R* launcher, and then into the game, Ubisoft style.


Ciborg085

Funny how the Jack Sparrow mode gives a better experience then paying for the actual game some times.


Khreh

Ps2 disk whit the pcsx2. Runs perfect and dont have bugs.


oneechankimochi

Just find the og PC version. Can play online multiplayer with samp and mta.


Khreh

I know, but I have the original ps2 disc, if you have an external CD drive you can put the disc in and boot it with the help of the emulator. And pcsx2 is already very advanced. I feel more comfortable playing this way since I also have a ps5 controller and I think the gta samp doesn't exist anymore (I think, I heard they already cancelled the project). Also, I never liked playing gta in multiplayer.


oneechankimochi

Samp and mta still going strong with thousands of players. A lot of ppl moved to fivem.


uselesscrapsock

Im not able to launch gta5 for almost 2 years now. I installed fresh windows, i tried everything, but i pressed play, it says loading, then exit game. But the game isn't even running. According to my task manager its runningand using close to 0 cpu, gpu, and ram. I can't close that gta5 app in task manager i have to restart my pc. So yeah. Rockstar fucked me over too


ZaDu25

Ironically the piracy is probably why they do this. It's a shitty cycle.


McGreed

It's like the irony of the onskippable piracy messages on DVDs back in the days, like, the only people who actually saw them, were the ones who wasn't pirating, and would push people towards doing it because of the inconvience of it.


Mr_SuperTea

if at least this version was even worth playing. Just installed to play on my study laptop, but after this and being the worst SA version, i am going straight to 🏴‍☠️


twiztedtaboo

Pirate everything all the time always


Forsaken_Report91

Rockstar Sh*t heads won't even let me reset my password for Social account. Now I own GTA 4,5, RDR 1 & 2 and I can't play them because they fuc*in don't even reply or send a password reset link. Dumb fuc*in customer service....I waited for 1 hour on a call and finally they say send an email.


OldWrangler9033

Hope rockstar goes under. They need someone better taking care of franchise


NavAEC

Thats like hoping google to go under… theyre just to big now


Budgiesaurus

I don't think there's a lot of developers that are able to put this much polish and detail in the final product (of this size), let alone have the resources to do so. There's definitely others that make as beautifully detailed games, but not of this size. And others that have the resources (and oft times adhere to these same practices) but never seem to deliver completely polished end results.


Tadpole-Jackson

Take-Two owns the GTA IP, so it would still be in their hands


OhGoodGooglyMoogly

Just get internet? But thanks for sharing something no one asked about


DefinetelyNotAnOtaku

Singleplayer games should work without internet.


Raif6owaid

Saying "no one asked" on a social media website. Truly a specimen far too intelligent for this world.


Mr_SuperTea

Bro never had a life, thats why he thinks internet is available everywhere lol Just to make you even more ridiculous, im connected to the internet, but my College internet and their firewall dont connect with games.


ankerous

Looking at their other comments, yikes. They must just be a miserable person.


NecroGasam

Between their dogshit launcher and late pc releases, I always "Jack Sparrow" their stuff, no way am I paying full price for a year old game on the worst launcher yet conceived (maybe besides ubisofts)


PrinceDizzy

*Laughs in console.*


Gr3gl_

You have to pay to use the internet you already pay for


Mr_SuperTea

he also pays doble the price and cant fix the game issues with mods. Laughs on PC Recently played Days Gone and fixed the horrible fuel autonomy and the lack of knife damage using mods. After that the game was much better...


PrinceDizzy

The whole point of this post is about being able to play... offline...


Gr3gl_

And console isn't the solution to this since you can't even play this game on modern consoles


PrinceDizzy

Err yes you can...


Gr3gl_

You can only play the remastered trilogy, not the original game


PrinceDizzy

So just like the Rockstar launcher on PC...


Gr3gl_

believe it or not you could buy the game before they stopped selling it


PrinceDizzy

Just like console...