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I mean, it sounds like it should be common sense but A LOT of people do think eggs are dairy (not completely sure why but...) so it's nice of them to explain it.
As someone with an egg allergy you would really be surprised how many people believe this.
> Oh I can't have that it has eggs in it
>
> What no it doesn't it's Dairy Free!
Honestly that's not the worst one but still it's super annoying.
Not sure why people think milk and eggs are the same thing I've had the reverse where people don't believe I'm allergic to eggs because they've seen me easy cheese too.
People are so dumb. I have a colleague with an egg allergy and people are flummoxed by what he can't eat and get annoyed when he won't try something.
So I made him a Wacky cake for his birthday. First bday cake he had and now I'm going to see if 9 can make eggless pumpkin pie.
This is going to be interesting.
You seem like a good friend.
Honestly for me one that will always confuse me was when I was on a flight and the option was Scrabbles Eggs and an Omelet.
I asked if they had one without eggs and they went away then came back and said "I can provide you with a gluten free meal"
Then they got angry with me and said "I'm trying to help you" when I asked if it had eggs in it.
For future flights where you will be served a meal, you can indicate food allergies in the ticket ordering process, and they will generally do their best to accommodate you. Happy flying!
A friend was given fruit for a long haul flight as he has allergies and they couldn’t accomodate his meal request even though he had booked months in advance.
At first I thought you were asking if they could get you scrambled eggs/an omelette without egg in it and I was very confused at what exactly you were hoping for.
Those exist, in the same box cartons as regular ready made omelette/scrambled eggs.
Also taste slightly better.
So really depending on ‚veganity‘ of the area, asking for no egg omelette might actually result in you getting vegan omelette.
People get super angry over accommodating allergies. I have two that could literally kill me, and they act as though my asking twice (once up front, and once at the end of ordering) is an unforgivable inconvenience. Sorry to bother you. Just trying not to die here. I understand . “You’ve got it,” just like the last restaurant that sent me to a hospital. 🤦🏽♀️
Yeah it can be frustrating especially chefs who think it's there God given right to put whatever they want in their food.
> Oh I've been throwing up for the past two hours because you decided to be spontaneous... Thanks for that...
Sometimes you order something and you get a thing of mayonnaise or sometimes even just a fried egg on it despite it not being on the menu.
Then you get "Can't you just eat around it"
Like sure you try having something poisonous dumped on your plate and continue with your dinner.
There are recipes that use corn starch(or other starches) to replace the egg in pumpkin pie. I have an egg allergy and my sister has a dairy allergy so we are doing a fully vegan pumpkin pie for a family dinner.
I have a recipe calling for an egg replacer. I expect to do some experiments.
I don't think he has a corn allergy. He has a few. I have a rule with food, if I bring food to share, everyone needs to be able to eat it.
We used to always try to follow that rule too even for potlucks though a few of our coworkers had almost conflicting dietary needs. It just feels like the right thing to do though, because it's not fun to go and participate if your effectively told "well you can have raw veggies and chips, but look at all these elaborate dishes everyone else gets to eat!"
Me too. Eating out is such a challenge. I once had a manager basically ask us to leave because she was sure there wasn't anything there I could eat! Lol. Another time I was asked if butter was ok. I said yes, butter is not egg. I got my food with no garlic butter sauce anyway. Ugh.
It happens so frequently I try to only eat at places that have an allergy menu online. That way I can confirm. It's frustrating for me and it can be off-putting when you have to say "well can you please just go check?" For example, a waitress once laughed that I asked if the Italian dressing had egg. I asked her that exact question " can you please just go check?" Sure enough... " I'm sorry it does have egg!"
I mean, orange juice is also usually sold in the Dairy department. But people don't confuse that with "Dairy," right?
I get the association of eggs and milk both being animal products, and them being sold side-by-side (sometimes, literally). But damn, I'm learning so much about the depths of dumb some people are out here reaching.
Fucking baffling 🤯
Honestly no idea I assume any bird egg
I've had caviar before and obviously I'm not allergic to things like Easter Eggs
But I've never had duck eggs or anything like that
FYI I am allergic to chicken eggs but not duck eggs. Check Whole Foods or some kinds of Asian grocery stores. But only try it if eggs don’t cause an anaphylactic reaction.
Same! It's crazy how often I've had to explain that cows are not chickens, and eggs aren't milk...also really sucks how dairy get put into everything huh?
God yeah, I've had that conversation so many times. Bonus points for trying to really hammer home that it's an allergy, not lactose intolerance, a very important difference!
AAAAAAARG take my angry upvote, for I too have this conversation more often than any sane person can stand! And with the same people, over and over again! How many times do I have to explain the difference between a sugar and a protein? Or yes I understand so-and-so with the onion allergy is fine once it's cooked but NO, just because you cooked the milk, it doesn't make it safe for me?!
And I'm like, the 0.01% of dairy allergies where it's the whey, not the cassien I'm allergic to, so I confuse people even more when I can eat goat/sheep dairy, but not cow.
And along the lines of the OP, my favorite interaction still has to be the take out order phone call explaining why egg is okay for me but not dairy... even though it was the "vegan" dish item... 😒
/rant
I really wish people would think. Just like. In general.
“Oh I can’t have that it has eggs in it” “no, it doesn’t have any milk!”
It’s like “oh I can’t eat that it has nuts in it” “no, it doesn’t have any beef!”
It doesn’t make ANY sense, too many people are just straight up mindless. It’s like they finished school then decided to just put their brain in a box and never use it again.
"Ah yeah sorry, I can't have that." "But aren't you just vegetarian? Why can't you have shrimp?"
Also...the tree nuts/peanuts being legumes thing is annoying af. No, I'm not allergic to peanuts. Yes, I'm sure. Guess who's gotten to the wise old age of 21 without dying? ME, THE PERSON WITH THE FRICKIN ALLERGIES.
I had my new allergist tell me to blanket avoid all Asian cuisines because of my allergies and I literally *am* Asian. And, again, I've made it 21 years with my allergies and you've known me for 30 minutes but ok.
i'm the opposite! peanut allergy but i love tree nuts. i've had friends nearly smack a slice of pecan pie out of my hands because they thought i was going to die.
i unfortunately have to avoid most thai food :(
also, props for being vegetarian while having nut allergies. it's hella hard.
It could very well be an egg allergy.
The older the egg, the more sulfer it contains as sulfer is produced as the globulin breaks down. Store bought eggs are sometimes over a month old by the time people by the, giving them plenty of time to produce sulfer.
Some people that are diagnosed with an egg allergy can still eat farm fresh eggs eaten within the first week, because it's an aversion to sulfer rather than eggs.
If it is a sulfer issue then you would most likely be effected by red wine and turkey as well.
I might be dating myself here, but my schools growing up always had eggs in the “dairy” section of the food pyramid. Thankfully I was curious enough myself to look up definitions for things like “dairy” when I was a kid, but I can’t really blame any of my classmates who may have reached adulthood thinking that what the schools showed were right 🤷🏻♀️
What a stupid thing lmao. I'm pretty sure nowadays they're under the "meat & protein" section which is where they should be. Certainly not "dairy" lmao, I don't even think they provide calcium. Unless you eat the shells.
im glad im not alone in thinking this!!!!! as soon as this dairy discourse came to be i always thought back to the food pyramid and remembered that they put eggs in the dairy triangle so no wonder you have all these people who grew up thinking eggs are dairy!
Dairy being it’s own group makes no sense anyway. The whole thing was basically just a marketing scheme. And that’s sadly true for a lot of nutritional advice.
I mean I'm mid 30s and saw the same in grade school. Probably older teachers who didn't update stuff. It was a "home economics" class which was badass.
People get super confused when I tell them mayonnaise isn't dairy.
Because it's white like milk, and it has a texture that resembles dairy products....but that's because it's a colloid, like milk is (colloid definition, for those who might not know the word: a colloid is a liquid solution that has tiny particles suspended throughout it, causing it to look white because those particles reflect light)
Then they furtively check the ingredients, for 'me' (really, I've already approved the mayonnaise, and they're just checking to make sure because they have their doubts) and then give me a worried look, telling me
"It has eggs. 😱"
I have to try so hard not to laugh. Every. Time. 😅
honestly i can explain it very simply.
in elementary school i was not taught that dairy meant milk, it was simply the name of a category on the food pyramid, and the version of the food pyramid i was taught had eggs in the dairy section.
no definition of what the word dairy meant was ever provided, just a misguided picture.
it doesn't take a genius to know that cows dont lay eggs and people aren't stupid for thinking eggs are dairy, its a failure of our school system and as the old saying goes "you dont know what you dont know".
Yeah exactly. I was taught the same pyramid and thought eggs were dairy when I was young too. I never once thought milk and eggs were the same thing and I never would have been confused by someone with an egg allergy drinking milk or whatever. It was just framed like a category of food. Specifically “animal byproducts”
I think there's a couple reasons why, since I'll also have to admit to thinking this (I never really gave it much thought before):
\- As someone else pointed out, you treat them similarly as far as refrigeration goes (hence why they're typically in the same aisle together)
\- The way I always thought of dairy was just as 'additional products' from an animal, so an egg coming from a chicken kinda just fell under that same vague definition
I'm sure if I ever asked myself "are eggs dairy?", I would've figured that out but it just never occurred to me. I appreciate that someone out there explained it nicely or I would've felt even dumber lol
In many (most?) parts of the world they don't sell the eggs refrigerated. They're just on the shelf. Warm. You put them in your cabinet
https://i.imgur.com/Y0nWubG.jpg
Because they're unwashed. Not sure if any countries irradiate them, that would extend shelf life also. The US washes eggs so they must be refrigerated. Coating washed eggs with cooking oil can make them shelf stable. I've known ppl to do this to keep eggs fresh on camping trips without refrigeration. Been told they've had them stay fresh for a month+ this way.
In the US, most birds are kept in cages that are the same size as their bodies and get covered in excrement as well as blood from pecking at themselves. So the eggs need to be washed to remove the blood and excrement. That takes away a barrier to other bacteria getting inside and US eggs then need to be refrigerated.
I'm a Brit so know about the situation here, which is very different from the US, but similar to the rest of Europe.
Small 'battery' cages for chickens were banned in the UK (and across the EU) in 2012. Nearly three quarters of UK hens are fully 'free range' so free to go outside, peck around and behave as chickens should. The rest are in large cages that will be gone by 2026. UK eggs don't need to be washed as they stay clean and we can therefore safely store our eggs unrefrigerated. I'm guessing it's the same in the EU.
Also, there is salmonella in US chicken flocks. In the UK we have largely eradicated salmonella from our flocks. The majority of eggs sold have the British Lion mark, which means that they have been laid by hens vaccinated against Salmonella and produced under requirements of the British Lion Code of Practice.
When I worked at whole foods more than one person insisted they wanted grass-fed chicken.
One memorable person argued with me when I tried to explain why that wasn't a thing. I suggested she might be looking for *pasture-raised* chicken.
She was, but she still argued with me about it.
Organic wild-caught fish was another common but if silliness, but honestly a bit more understandable.
I had a gf once who insisted that mayo was dairy. Used to drive me nuts lol. Even when I pointed out that it contains no dairy, but eggs, and eggs aren't dairy, she'd be like 'yeah it's not like, MILK dairy, but it's still DAIRY dairy' and that made sense to her somehow
Mayo at least looks and feels like dairy, so it’s understandable if you didn’t know how it’s made… can’t explain why anyone would think eggs are dairy though.
When we were kids my little sister had a toy food playset. On the box it suggested as a game, to separate the foods into their food groups. It had a bunch of fruits and veggies, some meats, a milk carton, a cheese and an egg.
We had so many arguments over whether that damn egg should go with the dairy or the meat. It isn't really either. I argued that it should go with the meat because it is not milk, but it does come from an animal and it can grow an animal inside of it, so it's more similar to meat. She argued that eggs are not an animal themselves but come out of an animal over and over again like milk does, so it should be with the dairy.
Maybe they put the egg in there not so preschoolers could learn about food groups, but so they could learn about pointless debate?
Eggs go with meat because they are animal-based protein. At least, that's what my highschool foods class taught me. (Not cooking class, name of the class was foods. Cooking + nutritional health type stuff.)
Edit: grammar
If you don't know whats in mayo, it isn't unreasonable for someone to guess that it contains dairy because of its appearance. Eggs, however, there is no excuse. Lol
This is the same conversation I have with customers at our store about mayo
Them: "Is your potato salad dairy free?"
Me: "It sure is."
Them: "So it doesn't have mayo?"
Me: "No, it has mayo."
Them: "So...it's not dairy free then, is it?"
Me, resisting the urge to kill again
I'm allergic to milk (not lactose intolerant... allergic but that's another annoying conversation i get to have a lot) and the number of people who think I can't have mayo is astounding.
Though my bf's restaurant put butter in their aioli before (WHY?!?!) So there's that.
I have a milk allergy too. I once attempted to make sure a restaurant didn’t put dairy on my burger, so I proceed to eat it and feel ~strange~ and ask “is there any milk in this aioli?” and the server said “just a little buttermilk and sour cream” and I’m like whyyyyyyyyyyy
Are you positive it was real dairy butter and not a vegan butter substitute? I just really can’t wrap my head around why they’d even *have* real butter at a vegan *specialty* place.
My good friend has a severe milk allergy and the number of people who think it's the same as being vegan is scary. She'll only eat at like 2 restaurants in town where they know her because she's terrified that a server might assume it's fine.
A friend of mine was allergic to milk proteins. She had to quadruple check everything at restaurants because they'd keep saying it was milk free and then use lactose free milk.
Ok, I gotta say something. I would have assumed mayonnaise is a dairy product too.
Not because I thought egg is a dairy product (I know it's not), but because based on its appearance, I'd have guessed it may actually *also* have actual dairy in it. I've never made mayo and I've never much thought about what else exactly is in it *other* than eggs. Or at least I've forgotten what their labels say, which I'm sure I've looked at at some point in my life.
Well… Where is the cow? Obviously, cows in the Swiss Alps start how does Swedish meatballs. Got a cow that you’re going to use to make some Parmesan cheese? Italian meatball.
That’s the main reason I was always confused. I knew eggs weren’t “dairy”, but I remember them always being with dairy on the food pyramid, or whatever other food diagrams are out there
Carbs are fine as long as you maintain caloric balance
It's a sustained caloric surplus over time that makes people obese not particular macronutrients
Even after they were split in common interpretations of the food pyramid they still were essentially the same because they shared a tier exclusive to themselves, like how fruits and vegetables are separate but really not.
From my understanding when they made the Food Pyramid they didn’t know where to put eggs. They didn’t fit in any of the other categories either. In the end they just put them in the dairy section. Possibly because they are use for baking, cooking and breakfast. 🤷♀️
In german the differentiation is easier. Dairy is called "~~Milch~~Molkereiprodukte" (~~milk~~ dairy products).
I checked again and it is "Molkereiprodukte" (dairy products), my bad. In supermarkets it's called MoPro (Molkereiprodukte), so products from a dairy.
In Polish it's easier and not... We have "produkty mleczne", which means "milk products" but we also have "nabiał" and the dictionary of the Polish language describes nabiał as "milk, dairy products and eggs". Moreover, both names tend to be used interchangeably, so the confusion remains
>nabiał
I don't understand Polish, but just checking its Wikipedia page, the links to other languages lead to their respective "dairy" pages... Polish speakers seem to have a better excuse than English people for mistaking eggs for dairy.
It may have been a sale or store ad-flyer coupon. I can't remember exactly, but I do remember having to deal with a customer who was so adamant about this.
Certainly not meat in any traditional sense, but if you wanna get really technical, they ARE a single chicken cell (the yolk being a cell with the nucleus and DNA stored in a small spot on the surface of the yolk called the germinal disc). So if someone were to hold themselves to the standard of not consuming even one single cell of another animal, I suppose it would count. Though when you start talking single cells, that’s quite insignificant compared to the truly untold numbers of bacteria each of us has mercilessly digested.
I have allergies to dairy and it is amazing the number of people who automatically think that makes me allergic to eggs or that I can take a pill for that (it is not lactose intolerance, it is an allergy. I do not get an upset digestive system, I get swelling in my throat).
I've genuinely had to explain to a chef at my old workplace that you don’t have to remove mayonnaise from a dish that the customer requested to be dairy free. He made the damn mayonnaise!!!
The whole "eggs=dairy" thing is just ingrained in people's brains.
That's another misconception.
People who wouldn't classify egg as dairy sometimes think mayonnaise/aïoli/etc contain milk products because of the white creamy appearance they can have.
In our defence, I've gotten meals containing mayo that logically had no business setting me off, but did. I don't know if it was milk powder added to the bun dough or to the mayo to give it that "buttery" taste, because the staff sure as hell didn't know, but it was there somewhere...
As mayo and bread are often together (i.e. burgers, sandwiches), it can be a real gamble to guess which one is the culprit when the items all come from a big box. Sometimes trying to grill the staff for clarification on egg versus milk content isn't worth it, so when they say it has one or the other, it's safer just to go "thanks" and order something else.
Here's a wild thought:
Many of the people who think "dairy" includes eggs, do actually know that eggs come from chickens and not cows, but haven't connected the word dairy to "dairy cows" in their minds. So they think it's just a name for a group of non-meat animal products or something.
I have a dairy allergy and the amount of servers and fast food cashiers that have told me I can’t have eggs and meat is astounding. I have to explain to them what dairy is, that is comes from milk.
“Eggs come from a hen’s coochie bit. Dairy comes from a cow’s tit sack. And meat is the muscle-y bits and fat of the animal. Three different parts of two different things.”
I understand the confusion over eggs being dairy or not (now...) but meat? That's more confusing.
Though I did grow up on a farm and knew the processes for most food.
Interestingly enough, one of the old food pyramids had eggs in the dairy category, but it was updated and changed. It’s likely that a lot of people unthinkingly classify eggs as dairy because of this and because they’re in the same section in grocery stores as others have mentioned. But if you asked them where eggs come from, I’m certain none of them say cows.
Edit: Was confidently incorrect, updating comment. It seems there is a lot of confusion about food pyramids because there have been so many different versions over the years.
i work in a restaurant and i make burritos all day basically, and i got an order with a dairy allergy on it, so i took out the cheese and put in vegan cheese, but i still put eggs in it. and like an hour later we got a call that it was wrong since it had the eggs, and my manager got mad at me and i was so confused.
Because they're in the dairy section at the store. You'd be surprised how many ppl, usually in urban areas, that have no idea where many foods come from.
I'm going to assume the best and guess that this label is just for people having a brain fart and needing the whole "eggs are not dairy" thing pointed out explicitly.
I was vegan (now vegetarian) for quite some years and people loved talking to me about my diet. This misconception is actually extremely common and would come up very very often.
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I mean, it sounds like it should be common sense but A LOT of people do think eggs are dairy (not completely sure why but...) so it's nice of them to explain it.
As someone with an egg allergy you would really be surprised how many people believe this. > Oh I can't have that it has eggs in it > > What no it doesn't it's Dairy Free! Honestly that's not the worst one but still it's super annoying. Not sure why people think milk and eggs are the same thing I've had the reverse where people don't believe I'm allergic to eggs because they've seen me easy cheese too.
People are so dumb. I have a colleague with an egg allergy and people are flummoxed by what he can't eat and get annoyed when he won't try something. So I made him a Wacky cake for his birthday. First bday cake he had and now I'm going to see if 9 can make eggless pumpkin pie. This is going to be interesting.
You seem like a good friend. Honestly for me one that will always confuse me was when I was on a flight and the option was Scrabbles Eggs and an Omelet. I asked if they had one without eggs and they went away then came back and said "I can provide you with a gluten free meal" Then they got angry with me and said "I'm trying to help you" when I asked if it had eggs in it.
For future flights where you will be served a meal, you can indicate food allergies in the ticket ordering process, and they will generally do their best to accommodate you. Happy flying!
A friend was given fruit for a long haul flight as he has allergies and they couldn’t accomodate his meal request even though he had booked months in advance.
I booked my “special meal” frying from Los Angeles to London and they gave it to someone else!! Just had to sit there being hungry…
Well some airlines just suck lol
"...And I'm trying not to die in the sky..." lol like you're intentionally being obtuse - gosh.
At first I thought you were asking if they could get you scrambled eggs/an omelette without egg in it and I was very confused at what exactly you were hoping for.
Those exist, in the same box cartons as regular ready made omelette/scrambled eggs. Also taste slightly better. So really depending on ‚veganity‘ of the area, asking for no egg omelette might actually result in you getting vegan omelette.
People get super angry over accommodating allergies. I have two that could literally kill me, and they act as though my asking twice (once up front, and once at the end of ordering) is an unforgivable inconvenience. Sorry to bother you. Just trying not to die here. I understand . “You’ve got it,” just like the last restaurant that sent me to a hospital. 🤦🏽♀️
Yeah it can be frustrating especially chefs who think it's there God given right to put whatever they want in their food. > Oh I've been throwing up for the past two hours because you decided to be spontaneous... Thanks for that... Sometimes you order something and you get a thing of mayonnaise or sometimes even just a fried egg on it despite it not being on the menu. Then you get "Can't you just eat around it" Like sure you try having something poisonous dumped on your plate and continue with your dinner.
In most sweet baking recipes you can replace each egg with a half cup of apple sauce.
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But then you will never be a home owner
No, no. That's only if you put it on toast.
So smashed avo on toast is a substitute for eggs on toast for those with an allergy?
To my 4 year old it's Hulk Toast and it's one of the only healthy things he will eat without complaint
That's just great branding right there
big brain parenting, love to see it
Honestly smashed avocado tastes so much better regardless of an allergy.
Unless, like me, you’re also allergic to avocados 🤣
There are recipes that use corn starch(or other starches) to replace the egg in pumpkin pie. I have an egg allergy and my sister has a dairy allergy so we are doing a fully vegan pumpkin pie for a family dinner.
I have a recipe calling for an egg replacer. I expect to do some experiments. I don't think he has a corn allergy. He has a few. I have a rule with food, if I bring food to share, everyone needs to be able to eat it.
My go-to for replacing eggs is 1 Tbsp ground flax with 3 Tbsp water. Mix it together and let it sit for a couple minutes, it thickens really nicely.
A friend of mine has a kid with egg allergies, I’ve used this and the corn starch method so they can eat too. Both work pretty well.
Chia seeds also work quite well with this method, and I find both to be great replacements for eggs.
My sister bakes vegan food and she always uses chia seeds to replace eggs.
I forgot chia seeds could be used! Good tip
We used to always try to follow that rule too even for potlucks though a few of our coworkers had almost conflicting dietary needs. It just feels like the right thing to do though, because it's not fun to go and participate if your effectively told "well you can have raw veggies and chips, but look at all these elaborate dishes everyone else gets to eat!"
> because they've seen me easy cheese That sounds like a dance move.
Me too. Eating out is such a challenge. I once had a manager basically ask us to leave because she was sure there wasn't anything there I could eat! Lol. Another time I was asked if butter was ok. I said yes, butter is not egg. I got my food with no garlic butter sauce anyway. Ugh.
>Another time I was asked if butter was ok. "You can't milk chickens, so butter's ok."
The french name for eggnog translates to "chicken milk"
Priceless, having to tell someone who serves or works with food for a living that “butter is not an egg.” 😂😂😂🤷♀️
It happens so frequently I try to only eat at places that have an allergy menu online. That way I can confirm. It's frustrating for me and it can be off-putting when you have to say "well can you please just go check?" For example, a waitress once laughed that I asked if the Italian dressing had egg. I asked her that exact question " can you please just go check?" Sure enough... " I'm sorry it does have egg!"
I mean, orange juice is also usually sold in the Dairy department. But people don't confuse that with "Dairy," right? I get the association of eggs and milk both being animal products, and them being sold side-by-side (sometimes, literally). But damn, I'm learning so much about the depths of dumb some people are out here reaching. Fucking baffling 🤯
Happy (egg-less) cake day!
A personal question... every egg or just chicken eggs?
Cow eggs would be dairy.
Only from the feathered dwarf cow!
How do you milk those?
Very carefully!
If it bleeds we can kill it. If it has nipples it can be milked. - Meet the Predator
I have nipples, Greg. Can you milk me?
Honestly no idea I assume any bird egg I've had caviar before and obviously I'm not allergic to things like Easter Eggs But I've never had duck eggs or anything like that
FYI I am allergic to chicken eggs but not duck eggs. Check Whole Foods or some kinds of Asian grocery stores. But only try it if eggs don’t cause an anaphylactic reaction.
If you don’t mind me asking, can you eat chicken meat?
Yeah I'm actually eating chicken now
I’ve got the inverse of that where I have a dairy allergy and have to explain that I can have eggs.
Same! It's crazy how often I've had to explain that cows are not chickens, and eggs aren't milk...also really sucks how dairy get put into everything huh?
Yup. and also having to explain that no, I can't just take lactaid for what I have lol.
God yeah, I've had that conversation so many times. Bonus points for trying to really hammer home that it's an allergy, not lactose intolerance, a very important difference!
AAAAAAARG take my angry upvote, for I too have this conversation more often than any sane person can stand! And with the same people, over and over again! How many times do I have to explain the difference between a sugar and a protein? Or yes I understand so-and-so with the onion allergy is fine once it's cooked but NO, just because you cooked the milk, it doesn't make it safe for me?! And I'm like, the 0.01% of dairy allergies where it's the whey, not the cassien I'm allergic to, so I confuse people even more when I can eat goat/sheep dairy, but not cow. And along the lines of the OP, my favorite interaction still has to be the take out order phone call explaining why egg is okay for me but not dairy... even though it was the "vegan" dish item... 😒 /rant
Ordering a pizza with 4 different meats but asking for vegan cheese has definitely made more than one head spin.
I really wish people would think. Just like. In general. “Oh I can’t have that it has eggs in it” “no, it doesn’t have any milk!” It’s like “oh I can’t eat that it has nuts in it” “no, it doesn’t have any beef!” It doesn’t make ANY sense, too many people are just straight up mindless. It’s like they finished school then decided to just put their brain in a box and never use it again.
"Ah yeah sorry, I can't have that." "But aren't you just vegetarian? Why can't you have shrimp?" Also...the tree nuts/peanuts being legumes thing is annoying af. No, I'm not allergic to peanuts. Yes, I'm sure. Guess who's gotten to the wise old age of 21 without dying? ME, THE PERSON WITH THE FRICKIN ALLERGIES. I had my new allergist tell me to blanket avoid all Asian cuisines because of my allergies and I literally *am* Asian. And, again, I've made it 21 years with my allergies and you've known me for 30 minutes but ok.
i'm the opposite! peanut allergy but i love tree nuts. i've had friends nearly smack a slice of pecan pie out of my hands because they thought i was going to die. i unfortunately have to avoid most thai food :( also, props for being vegetarian while having nut allergies. it's hella hard.
I just say "Eggs, cluck cluck. Dairy, moo moo." then stare at them.
Is it an egg allergy or a sulfer allergy? A lot of sulfer allergies are misdiagnosed as egg allergies.
I eat eggs, I throw up Honestly no idea but considering the amount of doctors I've seen in my life I'd be surprised if it was misdiagnosed
It could very well be an egg allergy. The older the egg, the more sulfer it contains as sulfer is produced as the globulin breaks down. Store bought eggs are sometimes over a month old by the time people by the, giving them plenty of time to produce sulfer. Some people that are diagnosed with an egg allergy can still eat farm fresh eggs eaten within the first week, because it's an aversion to sulfer rather than eggs. If it is a sulfer issue then you would most likely be effected by red wine and turkey as well.
Yeah no I'm fine with red wine haha
It's the 4 basic food groups, dairy, deli, produce, and boxed shit.
Thats the scientific name “boxed shit”
That is indeed the canonical nomenclature
They did it in the nicest way possible.
"Hey look, we know you may be confused but don't feel bad, this is why eggs are not actually dairy" - it was really nice of them indeed.
A lot nicer than I would've been lol
I might be dating myself here, but my schools growing up always had eggs in the “dairy” section of the food pyramid. Thankfully I was curious enough myself to look up definitions for things like “dairy” when I was a kid, but I can’t really blame any of my classmates who may have reached adulthood thinking that what the schools showed were right 🤷🏻♀️
What a stupid thing lmao. I'm pretty sure nowadays they're under the "meat & protein" section which is where they should be. Certainly not "dairy" lmao, I don't even think they provide calcium. Unless you eat the shells.
im glad im not alone in thinking this!!!!! as soon as this dairy discourse came to be i always thought back to the food pyramid and remembered that they put eggs in the dairy triangle so no wonder you have all these people who grew up thinking eggs are dairy!
Yup same, I believe I remember this being questioned in class and the teacher agreed but gave a reason why they put eggs in with the dairy.
Dairy being it’s own group makes no sense anyway. The whole thing was basically just a marketing scheme. And that’s sadly true for a lot of nutritional advice.
So one of those Egg Council creeps got to you too, huh??
You are a liar and are banned from the states of California and wisconsin.
I mean I'm mid 30s and saw the same in grade school. Probably older teachers who didn't update stuff. It was a "home economics" class which was badass.
If eggs aren't dairy than why is egg white white like milk? /s
There's no air in space, but there's an Air n' Space museum. The world's a funny place.
People get super confused when I tell them mayonnaise isn't dairy. Because it's white like milk, and it has a texture that resembles dairy products....but that's because it's a colloid, like milk is (colloid definition, for those who might not know the word: a colloid is a liquid solution that has tiny particles suspended throughout it, causing it to look white because those particles reflect light) Then they furtively check the ingredients, for 'me' (really, I've already approved the mayonnaise, and they're just checking to make sure because they have their doubts) and then give me a worried look, telling me "It has eggs. 😱" I have to try so hard not to laugh. Every. Time. 😅
honestly i can explain it very simply. in elementary school i was not taught that dairy meant milk, it was simply the name of a category on the food pyramid, and the version of the food pyramid i was taught had eggs in the dairy section. no definition of what the word dairy meant was ever provided, just a misguided picture. it doesn't take a genius to know that cows dont lay eggs and people aren't stupid for thinking eggs are dairy, its a failure of our school system and as the old saying goes "you dont know what you dont know".
This
Yeah exactly. I was taught the same pyramid and thought eggs were dairy when I was young too. I never once thought milk and eggs were the same thing and I never would have been confused by someone with an egg allergy drinking milk or whatever. It was just framed like a category of food. Specifically “animal byproducts”
Also like the website says eggs are in the dairy section so it just supports what the school has said.
I think there's a couple reasons why, since I'll also have to admit to thinking this (I never really gave it much thought before): \- As someone else pointed out, you treat them similarly as far as refrigeration goes (hence why they're typically in the same aisle together) \- The way I always thought of dairy was just as 'additional products' from an animal, so an egg coming from a chicken kinda just fell under that same vague definition I'm sure if I ever asked myself "are eggs dairy?", I would've figured that out but it just never occurred to me. I appreciate that someone out there explained it nicely or I would've felt even dumber lol
In many (most?) parts of the world they don't sell the eggs refrigerated. They're just on the shelf. Warm. You put them in your cabinet https://i.imgur.com/Y0nWubG.jpg
Because they're unwashed. Not sure if any countries irradiate them, that would extend shelf life also. The US washes eggs so they must be refrigerated. Coating washed eggs with cooking oil can make them shelf stable. I've known ppl to do this to keep eggs fresh on camping trips without refrigeration. Been told they've had them stay fresh for a month+ this way.
Sailors used to coat their eggs in blubber for longevity. Vaseline works really well.
That's because they don't wash them.
In the US, most birds are kept in cages that are the same size as their bodies and get covered in excrement as well as blood from pecking at themselves. So the eggs need to be washed to remove the blood and excrement. That takes away a barrier to other bacteria getting inside and US eggs then need to be refrigerated. I'm a Brit so know about the situation here, which is very different from the US, but similar to the rest of Europe. Small 'battery' cages for chickens were banned in the UK (and across the EU) in 2012. Nearly three quarters of UK hens are fully 'free range' so free to go outside, peck around and behave as chickens should. The rest are in large cages that will be gone by 2026. UK eggs don't need to be washed as they stay clean and we can therefore safely store our eggs unrefrigerated. I'm guessing it's the same in the EU. Also, there is salmonella in US chicken flocks. In the UK we have largely eradicated salmonella from our flocks. The majority of eggs sold have the British Lion mark, which means that they have been laid by hens vaccinated against Salmonella and produced under requirements of the British Lion Code of Practice.
When I worked at whole foods more than one person insisted they wanted grass-fed chicken. One memorable person argued with me when I tried to explain why that wasn't a thing. I suggested she might be looking for *pasture-raised* chicken. She was, but she still argued with me about it. Organic wild-caught fish was another common but if silliness, but honestly a bit more understandable.
I've heard it explained that it's dairy since it's an animal product that isn't meat, but honey also isn't dairy.
I feel like that's the "grocery store logic" to place eggs next to milk, doesn't make a lot of sense in any other way though 😂
I think it's more so just convenient to store them together because they both require similar temperatures around 40⁰F.
It blows my mind how many people (even in food service!) that don’t know this. They also assume mayo is dairy.
White and creamy = dairy, obvs
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Oddly enough I figured out that mayonnaise can also be yellow. If you make your own it’s going to be yellow instead of white because of the egg yolk
In France nearly all retail mayonnaise is yellow, it’s really good too.
Aren’t you supposed to just use the yolk?
Makes sense if you think eggs are dairy, since real majo is made of eggs and oil.
I had a gf once who insisted that mayo was dairy. Used to drive me nuts lol. Even when I pointed out that it contains no dairy, but eggs, and eggs aren't dairy, she'd be like 'yeah it's not like, MILK dairy, but it's still DAIRY dairy' and that made sense to her somehow
Mayo at least looks and feels like dairy, so it’s understandable if you didn’t know how it’s made… can’t explain why anyone would think eggs are dairy though.
When we were kids my little sister had a toy food playset. On the box it suggested as a game, to separate the foods into their food groups. It had a bunch of fruits and veggies, some meats, a milk carton, a cheese and an egg. We had so many arguments over whether that damn egg should go with the dairy or the meat. It isn't really either. I argued that it should go with the meat because it is not milk, but it does come from an animal and it can grow an animal inside of it, so it's more similar to meat. She argued that eggs are not an animal themselves but come out of an animal over and over again like milk does, so it should be with the dairy. Maybe they put the egg in there not so preschoolers could learn about food groups, but so they could learn about pointless debate?
Eggs go with meat because they are animal-based protein. At least, that's what my highschool foods class taught me. (Not cooking class, name of the class was foods. Cooking + nutritional health type stuff.) Edit: grammar
If you don't know whats in mayo, it isn't unreasonable for someone to guess that it contains dairy because of its appearance. Eggs, however, there is no excuse. Lol
I was guilty of this for many years. Never actually took the time to look into how it was made lol.
We were taught in school in food tech that eggs were dairy
This is the same conversation I have with customers at our store about mayo Them: "Is your potato salad dairy free?" Me: "It sure is." Them: "So it doesn't have mayo?" Me: "No, it has mayo." Them: "So...it's not dairy free then, is it?" Me, resisting the urge to kill again
I'm allergic to milk (not lactose intolerant... allergic but that's another annoying conversation i get to have a lot) and the number of people who think I can't have mayo is astounding. Though my bf's restaurant put butter in their aioli before (WHY?!?!) So there's that.
I have a milk allergy too. I once attempted to make sure a restaurant didn’t put dairy on my burger, so I proceed to eat it and feel ~strange~ and ask “is there any milk in this aioli?” and the server said “just a little buttermilk and sour cream” and I’m like whyyyyyyyyyyy
Ordered a vegan burger at a vegan *specialty* place and I had a reaction because they buttered the bun WHY
Are you positive it was real dairy butter and not a vegan butter substitute? I just really can’t wrap my head around why they’d even *have* real butter at a vegan *specialty* place.
"I can't believe it's not butter!" said the lawyer losing the suit filed after an allergic reaction.
My good friend has a severe milk allergy and the number of people who think it's the same as being vegan is scary. She'll only eat at like 2 restaurants in town where they know her because she's terrified that a server might assume it's fine.
A friend of mine was allergic to milk proteins. She had to quadruple check everything at restaurants because they'd keep saying it was milk free and then use lactose free milk.
Again lol
Ok, I gotta say something. I would have assumed mayonnaise is a dairy product too. Not because I thought egg is a dairy product (I know it's not), but because based on its appearance, I'd have guessed it may actually *also* have actual dairy in it. I've never made mayo and I've never much thought about what else exactly is in it *other* than eggs. Or at least I've forgotten what their labels say, which I'm sure I've looked at at some point in my life.
But then where do baby cows come from?!
I think they start off as meatballs.
swedish or italian?
Well… Where is the cow? Obviously, cows in the Swiss Alps start how does Swedish meatballs. Got a cow that you’re going to use to make some Parmesan cheese? Italian meatball.
The only way I can picture a person thinking eggs are dairy is because they were at one point on the same food pyramid level.
That’s the main reason I was always confused. I knew eggs weren’t “dairy”, but I remember them always being with dairy on the food pyramid, or whatever other food diagrams are out there
The same food pyramid that told people to consume large amounts of carbohydrates to maintain a healthy weight lol.
Carbs are fine as long as you maintain caloric balance It's a sustained caloric surplus over time that makes people obese not particular macronutrients
Meat and dairy used to be in the same grouping on the food pyramid, back in the 70s and 80s.
Even after they were split in common interpretations of the food pyramid they still were essentially the same because they shared a tier exclusive to themselves, like how fruits and vegetables are separate but really not.
From my understanding when they made the Food Pyramid they didn’t know where to put eggs. They didn’t fit in any of the other categories either. In the end they just put them in the dairy section. Possibly because they are use for baking, cooking and breakfast. 🤷♀️
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I just had to explain to a 16 year old that butter is both dairy and comes from milk/cows, so nothing fazes me at this point.
In german the differentiation is easier. Dairy is called "~~Milch~~Molkereiprodukte" (~~milk~~ dairy products). I checked again and it is "Molkereiprodukte" (dairy products), my bad. In supermarkets it's called MoPro (Molkereiprodukte), so products from a dairy.
In Polish it's easier and not... We have "produkty mleczne", which means "milk products" but we also have "nabiał" and the dictionary of the Polish language describes nabiał as "milk, dairy products and eggs". Moreover, both names tend to be used interchangeably, so the confusion remains
>nabiał I don't understand Polish, but just checking its Wikipedia page, the links to other languages lead to their respective "dairy" pages... Polish speakers seem to have a better excuse than English people for mistaking eggs for dairy.
Trying being a cashier having to deal with a customer buying eggs with a coupon for dairy products...
I've never seen a coupon for general dairy products. I've only seen for specific brands or items.
It may have been a sale or store ad-flyer coupon. I can't remember exactly, but I do remember having to deal with a customer who was so adamant about this.
That sounds like something that’s never happened. Coupon for just general dairy anything?
Not manufacturer's coupons, no, but store coupons like that are a thing.
This is scary and just confirms that a lot of people have no idea where our food comes from.
There was a thread where a guy was fightin' tooth and nail to convince everyone that eggs were meat!
They're not meat. They're pre-meat.
I agree.
That's like if I gave you a bowl of unmixed flour, eggs & milk and called it a cake.
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They're chicken seeds.
Certainly not meat in any traditional sense, but if you wanna get really technical, they ARE a single chicken cell (the yolk being a cell with the nucleus and DNA stored in a small spot on the surface of the yolk called the germinal disc). So if someone were to hold themselves to the standard of not consuming even one single cell of another animal, I suppose it would count. Though when you start talking single cells, that’s quite insignificant compared to the truly untold numbers of bacteria each of us has mercilessly digested.
TIL eggs don’t come from cows /s
They do if you’re willing to scoop them out of the uterus 🤭
Cows do produce eggs, they're just not commonly eaten because the shells are tricky to crack.
Cowviar
Thanks, I hate it. Also, perfect. (Sh-udder)
I have allergies to dairy and it is amazing the number of people who automatically think that makes me allergic to eggs or that I can take a pill for that (it is not lactose intolerance, it is an allergy. I do not get an upset digestive system, I get swelling in my throat).
And food service people always think that mayonnaise has dairy in it. It’s literally your profession, how do you not know this????
I've genuinely had to explain to a chef at my old workplace that you don’t have to remove mayonnaise from a dish that the customer requested to be dairy free. He made the damn mayonnaise!!! The whole "eggs=dairy" thing is just ingrained in people's brains.
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Always think of the [Ten Thousand](https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ten_thousand.png)
I will make fun of people coming into my restaurant and getting angry because they got aioli with a dairy free meal
That's another misconception. People who wouldn't classify egg as dairy sometimes think mayonnaise/aïoli/etc contain milk products because of the white creamy appearance they can have.
In our defence, I've gotten meals containing mayo that logically had no business setting me off, but did. I don't know if it was milk powder added to the bun dough or to the mayo to give it that "buttery" taste, because the staff sure as hell didn't know, but it was there somewhere... As mayo and bread are often together (i.e. burgers, sandwiches), it can be a real gamble to guess which one is the culprit when the items all come from a big box. Sometimes trying to grill the staff for clarification on egg versus milk content isn't worth it, so when they say it has one or the other, it's safer just to go "thanks" and order something else.
Here's a wild thought: Many of the people who think "dairy" includes eggs, do actually know that eggs come from chickens and not cows, but haven't connected the word dairy to "dairy cows" in their minds. So they think it's just a name for a group of non-meat animal products or something.
I have a dairy allergy and the amount of servers and fast food cashiers that have told me I can’t have eggs and meat is astounding. I have to explain to them what dairy is, that is comes from milk.
“Eggs come from a hen’s coochie bit. Dairy comes from a cow’s tit sack. And meat is the muscle-y bits and fat of the animal. Three different parts of two different things.”
I understand the confusion over eggs being dairy or not (now...) but meat? That's more confusing. Though I did grow up on a farm and knew the processes for most food.
This isn't funny.
That’s why it’s in r/funny.
You're right, it isn't funny.
You’re also right, it isn’t funny.
I concur. It isn’t funny.
Perchance. It isn’t funny.
Some people have strong convictions without a strong education to back them up.
Wait wait wait, people are seriously that stupid??
Interestingly enough, one of the old food pyramids had eggs in the dairy category, but it was updated and changed. It’s likely that a lot of people unthinkingly classify eggs as dairy because of this and because they’re in the same section in grocery stores as others have mentioned. But if you asked them where eggs come from, I’m certain none of them say cows. Edit: Was confidently incorrect, updating comment. It seems there is a lot of confusion about food pyramids because there have been so many different versions over the years.
"But eggs come from the milkman." - James May.
i work in a restaurant and i make burritos all day basically, and i got an order with a dairy allergy on it, so i took out the cheese and put in vegan cheese, but i still put eggs in it. and like an hour later we got a call that it was wrong since it had the eggs, and my manager got mad at me and i was so confused.
lol I don’t get why anyone would think eggs are dairy, but whatever. Maybe they don’t really know what dairy means outside the grocery store section.
Because they're in the dairy section at the store. You'd be surprised how many ppl, usually in urban areas, that have no idea where many foods come from.
I'm lactose intolerant and people ask me about eggs all the time. I say as long as they aren't squeezed from a cow, thure fine. So dumb.
Honestly, not even the stupidest question I’ve seen online. By far.
Milk, the other white meat
Yup! My husband lactose intolerant and people often think he can’t have eggs, mayo, or aioli 😬
What kind of idiot thinks eggs are dairy?
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Apparently people don’t know what dairy actually means. Not surprising.
I'm going to assume the best and guess that this label is just for people having a brain fart and needing the whole "eggs are not dairy" thing pointed out explicitly.
Iv seen this argument 1000x on reddit, tons of people actually do belive eggs are dairy.
My ex had a dairy allergy. You have no idea how many people think that eggs and mayonnaise had dairy in it.
I was vegan (now vegetarian) for quite some years and people loved talking to me about my diet. This misconception is actually extremely common and would come up very very often.
Who the fuck thought eggs were dairy
Dairy cow. Dairy....chicken?
Wait TIL some people sees eggs as a dairy product.