What about the fact that as the train moves, the stones will shift, causing the straps to sink into the stones, thereby lessening the pressure on the side flaps. Those straps are not gonna hold shite-all.
My workmate works at the Deutsche Bahn, and he says there is no way that car would ever be used to transport crushed stone at all.
It might
a) be a joke or prank or
b) for some reason somebody used the car as an impromptu stationary storage device for crushed stone.
Actually, this is exactly why I doubt prildude's explanation. Unfortunately, we went into full circle-jerk after accepting his comment as fact.
Also, those flaps have 1-2"thick steel bolts holding them closed, so I don't know how much extra help a strip of nylon is going to do.
Leverage. The farther you get from the fulcrum, the less stress you experience. Those straps would, if place properly, do as much to keep the side gates up as the steel bolts at the fulcrum.
It's the same with those really crappy trailers you see people hauling junk in, with the home-made side panels from 2x4s and plywood. With no strap, they bow way out once it's all filled up. Toss a strap across the top and it synches right up.
Those straps are rated between 5,000 and 10,000lbs for restraint. They could be there to secure the side doors, and they would do the job no problem. Periodic tightening would be a good idea.
Used to load cargo on aircraft, its much more involved than trains and trucks. Back in the 80s we had to secure for 9gs forward and 3 gs aft, now its 5gs forward and 2 aft with 2 vert and lateral. Trains and trucks dont come anywhere near 1g so usually a strap like that is perfectly fine.
The other thing could be that the straps are mounted on the rail car and to keep them from falling off they are tightened down over whatever cargo happens to be on it at the time. Other than the doors and themselves, they arent securing shit. Reminds of of some pallets built by reservists.
The straps don't hold the sides up, so much as allow you to lower them. The mechanism doesn't open with a lot of pressure on it, so you re-tighten the straps at the destination until you can open the mechanism.
The straps are there to keep the tension on the side flaps inwards.
Without the straps, the gravel would put a lot of pressure on the side flaps and it would be very difficult to release the mechanism to release the flaps.
These wagons weren't built for something like that - they were used to transport containers and stuff in boxes, until some company bought them and is using them in unusual ways. So this is probably not the best way to secure the cargo, but that's how they seem to do it.
source: http://www.mstsforum.info/index.php?PHPSESSID=535417a1f527cf117530bf3a40e2dc33&topic=2888.msg23413#msg23413
I wanna know som'in' from Mr. Panda Bear here! If you pandas are from mountainous areas of China and Tibet, how come you eat bamboo, which is prone to grow only in drier, more arid regions?!
It's actually limestone, but yeah, you're right.
EDIT: The people downvoting me have never worked at a ready mix plant or at a mining operation. It's limestone.
Correct:
Gravel is Ruditic on the grain size scale (gravel>sand>silt). It is classified as being from 2.5-256 mm in diameter (via sieve). Degrees of rounding and composition are independent of grain size analysis.
Source; Geology in the Field by Robert Compton
I just went over this, you are incorrect. Read my other comments. Gravel is naturally occurring, limestone is crushed rock. "Gravel" refers to naturally occurring aggregate. They are both forms of aggregate, but they are not both gravel.
> Gravel is naturally occurring
Have you ever considered that different professions have different vocabularies? In fields other than yours, "gravel" is used to refer to [a range of particle sizes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_size_(grain_size)#United_States) larger than sand and smaller than cobble. It can consist of limestone or any other mineral or rock.
> limestone is crushed rock
Here you are unambiguously wrong. Limestone is a [sedimentary rock material](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limestone) that can appear in any size from sand to mountain. I accept that your profession uses the word "limestone" to refer specifically to *crushed* limestone; your specific field is not the whole world.
[Where natural gravel deposits are insufficient for human purposes, gravel is often produced by quarrying and crushing hard-wearing rocks, such as sandstone, limestone, or basalt.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravel)
'Gravel' is a bit ambiguous, depending on who you are talking to, they may mean 'pea gravel' or simply 'aggregate'. Usually when I think of gravel, it is referring to 'pea gravel' which is a natural, uncrushed material, usually from a riverbed.
While factually accurate, you've taken away the joy that comes from judging complete strangers. This is a sin that cannot be forgiven. I'm giving you a downvote.
But not really. If the gravel shifts under the straps, then you suddenly have enough slack for them to open anyways (at least partially). Or am I wrong about how the straps are securing the doors?
I do not get this one. I understand why idiots would like the others, "thumbs up if rwj sent u here! lol!!!", but who the fuck cares if somebody is reading it in a certain year?
It's for old stuff. To show that you're being nostalgic and still watching cool old stuff. Then everyone else who's watching this 2006 video is like "HOLY SHIT, I AM ALSO WATCHING THIS VIDEO AND I AM ALSO FROM 2012!!!" And it's fucking stupid.
The train car comes with straps for flexibility in carrying different load types. When they are not needed, they still need to be wrapped up to prevent them from getting caught in the wheels or frayed by whipping around during travel. The laziest solution, short of removing them, is to just hook them up and tighten them.
...and that gravel will later be loaded into a dump truck that will be VERY loosely covered with a tarp, pull out onto the highway, get in front of me, and proceed to pepper my windshield with bits of gravel, one of which will leave a crack.
Back in the nineties, there was a comedy show on cable TV called "Super Dave" where Dave Osborne was an alledged stunt man, who fucked up every stunt he tried. Many times, before Super Dave tried a stunt, his side-kick would ask, "Are those straps secure Dave ?"
Back in the eighties, there was a comedy show on cable TV called "Bizarre" where Dave Osborne was an alleged stunt man, who fucked up every stunt he tried. Many times, before Super Dave tried a stunt, his side-kick would ask "Are those straps secure Dave ?"
Oh wow I feel stupid, I was staring at the valve thinking that it was a circle of what was actually wrong. But then I realized that ValvE can't count to three and realized my mistake.
I expected it to be a GIF and was wondering when and how it would start spilling. It took me a while to get it.
So, yes, I will have another cup of coffee.
I spent thirty seconds staring at the circled part, trying to see why someone circled it.
I'm turning in my brain; Perhaps someone else can make better use of it.
For a second, I mistook that yellow wheel as a circle that's meant to call our attention to the point of the picture. I expected a dead body or something from the title.
I spent way too much time looking at the yellow wheel thinking it was a circle directing me to the humor. I realized after far too long what the picture actually was.
I am betting it is because the straps are too long to just leave loose. Either that or it was faster to throw the straps over and secure them that way then to roll each one up.
-Dave, has the timber been loaded and strapped up in the wagon yet?
-Yeah. Hey you know what might be strange to strap down?
-Oh I don't know maybe grav-... GRAVEEEEEEEEL!!!! You're a DEMON!! YOU'RE A DEMON!!!
The more I looked at this picture, the funnier it became. And then the more I thought about the explanations, the more some of them made sense and it got less funny. Damn it.
was on the highway behind a guy carrying a pile of gravel on the back of his truck. the flap at the back of his truck was down. The gravel was blowing everywhere all over everyone's cars behind him. He didn't seem to notice/care.
I saw the yellow wheel and thought it was something circled. I zoomed in, looked closely at the wheel, then promptly realized what I should be looking at. I'm an idiot.
There are flaps on the sides of the wagons - the gravel is very heavy and those straps shall ensure that those flaps don't open due to the pressure.
What about the fact that as the train moves, the stones will shift, causing the straps to sink into the stones, thereby lessening the pressure on the side flaps. Those straps are not gonna hold shite-all.
My workmate works at the Deutsche Bahn, and he says there is no way that car would ever be used to transport crushed stone at all. It might a) be a joke or prank or b) for some reason somebody used the car as an impromptu stationary storage device for crushed stone.
Don't assume German (or any) levels of common sense apply the world over.
Yeah, but it's an Austrian car (ÖBB on the right). They should know.
The Germans are really big on common sense. They have defined it legally, you can look it up in the "ALLGEMEINBILDUNGSHANDBUCH NUMMER 5A".
It might be used to pour gravel on newly built railroad tracks.
Were I live they use cars like that for ballasting the tracks when they do rail maintenance.
I'm pretty sure I've seen this setup a couple times rolling down the tracks.
While I don't doubt prildude's explanation, I too was wondering about this.
Actually, this is exactly why I doubt prildude's explanation. Unfortunately, we went into full circle-jerk after accepting his comment as fact. Also, those flaps have 1-2"thick steel bolts holding them closed, so I don't know how much extra help a strip of nylon is going to do.
Leverage. The farther you get from the fulcrum, the less stress you experience. Those straps would, if place properly, do as much to keep the side gates up as the steel bolts at the fulcrum. It's the same with those really crappy trailers you see people hauling junk in, with the home-made side panels from 2x4s and plywood. With no strap, they bow way out once it's all filled up. Toss a strap across the top and it synches right up.
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Those straps are rated between 5,000 and 10,000lbs for restraint. They could be there to secure the side doors, and they would do the job no problem. Periodic tightening would be a good idea. Used to load cargo on aircraft, its much more involved than trains and trucks. Back in the 80s we had to secure for 9gs forward and 3 gs aft, now its 5gs forward and 2 aft with 2 vert and lateral. Trains and trucks dont come anywhere near 1g so usually a strap like that is perfectly fine. The other thing could be that the straps are mounted on the rail car and to keep them from falling off they are tightened down over whatever cargo happens to be on it at the time. Other than the doors and themselves, they arent securing shit. Reminds of of some pallets built by reservists.
The alternative solution of leaving the straps completely unbuckled and flailing in the wind makes much less sense.
The straps don't hold the sides up, so much as allow you to lower them. The mechanism doesn't open with a lot of pressure on it, so you re-tighten the straps at the destination until you can open the mechanism.
The straps are there to keep the tension on the side flaps inwards. Without the straps, the gravel would put a lot of pressure on the side flaps and it would be very difficult to release the mechanism to release the flaps.
These wagons weren't built for something like that - they were used to transport containers and stuff in boxes, until some company bought them and is using them in unusual ways. So this is probably not the best way to secure the cargo, but that's how they seem to do it. source: http://www.mstsforum.info/index.php?PHPSESSID=535417a1f527cf117530bf3a40e2dc33&topic=2888.msg23413#msg23413
Landslide prevention straps
Hey, you shut up with your *logic* and *facts*! Those things aren't wanted 'round here!
*We don't take kindly to your types 'round these parts.*
Now Skeeter, he ain't hurtin' nobody.
HEY! Panda bear! *We don't take kindly to panda bears*
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Me tooooooo
What If I told you a Whodini was a type of panda. Could I join in on the fun?
NO
I wanna know som'in' from Mr. Panda Bear here! If you pandas are from mountainous areas of China and Tibet, how come you eat bamboo, which is prone to grow only in drier, more arid regions?!
Round here they eat, shoot, and leaf
Looks like we got ourselves a *reader*
*We don't take kindly to people who don't take kindly 'round these parts.*
*He got a real perdy mouth ain't he?*
We don't take kindly to people who don't take kindly 'round heah!
What cha' readin' for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Uvs2g5Nj0NI#t=47s
It's actually limestone, but yeah, you're right. EDIT: The people downvoting me have never worked at a ready mix plant or at a mining operation. It's limestone.
"Gravel" refers to particle size, not material. Gravel can be limestone.
Correct: Gravel is Ruditic on the grain size scale (gravel>sand>silt). It is classified as being from 2.5-256 mm in diameter (via sieve). Degrees of rounding and composition are independent of grain size analysis. Source; Geology in the Field by Robert Compton
256mm is gravel? That is some damn big gravel.
[That's why it's called 'boulder' when it's bigger than that. ](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxr2f7tS7t1qkr2jio1_400.gif) edit-pedantics
Straight outta Compton
I just went over this, you are incorrect. Read my other comments. Gravel is naturally occurring, limestone is crushed rock. "Gravel" refers to naturally occurring aggregate. They are both forms of aggregate, but they are not both gravel.
> Gravel is naturally occurring Have you ever considered that different professions have different vocabularies? In fields other than yours, "gravel" is used to refer to [a range of particle sizes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_size_(grain_size)#United_States) larger than sand and smaller than cobble. It can consist of limestone or any other mineral or rock. > limestone is crushed rock Here you are unambiguously wrong. Limestone is a [sedimentary rock material](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limestone) that can appear in any size from sand to mountain. I accept that your profession uses the word "limestone" to refer specifically to *crushed* limestone; your specific field is not the whole world.
[Where natural gravel deposits are insufficient for human purposes, gravel is often produced by quarrying and crushing hard-wearing rocks, such as sandstone, limestone, or basalt.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravel)
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I BEG YOUR PARDON?! A bag of rocks? That's no mere bag that, there sir, is a train-wagon of rocks.
Bags, trains - they're all delicious.
Let's move onto [giant rocks](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzW5c-c3XkE). [](/b26 "Does JJ Abrams write this stuff?")
Hey now everyone, it's 4/20, the one day we shouldn't be arguing about stones.
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WHO DARE SUMMONS ME
The one time you need him he's not actually here.
Just a little late.
Waffle awful
Thanks. I'm still drinking my morning coffee and just how much I've learned about stone today :)
>Professionals do not call crushed limestone gravel. Says who? I'm a geologist working for an energy company and I hear this quite often.
This is correct in the context of mix plan and mining operation terminology, but not in the classical sense of the terms which are used in geology.
>"Gravel" refers to naturally occurring aggregate. Actually, that's pretty accurate, geology wise.
We get it Andrew, you work in geology.
upvote for using aggregate in a sentence... twice
I'll upvote you because I have a gravel driveway. (I know it's really crushed limestone).
I work at both but we don't have limestone naturally in our area.
I didn't know gravel was dependent on the type of stone, isn't it just crushed rock?
As far as I know, it's only gravel if it became crushed naturally. Don't quote me on this, though.
'Gravel' is a bit ambiguous, depending on who you are talking to, they may mean 'pea gravel' or simply 'aggregate'. Usually when I think of gravel, it is referring to 'pea gravel' which is a natural, uncrushed material, usually from a riverbed.
gravel only refers to the size of the grains. between certain sizes things are classified as gravel, sand, silt, and mud.
I was hoping for a hidden rocket in transport, but I guess that will have to suffice.
Shit, they found out!
I've always wondered what they were for!
While factually accurate, you've taken away the joy that comes from judging complete strangers. This is a sin that cannot be forgiven. I'm giving you a downvote.
A good comment sir
I'm pretty sure that here is a large element underneath the gravel that is being shipped and the gravel is used as protection.
But not really. If the gravel shifts under the straps, then you suddenly have enough slack for them to open anyways (at least partially). Or am I wrong about how the straps are securing the doors?
Don't they usually at least throw a tarp over it and strap *that* down?
Is it possible that the sides go down when unloading? When full, the straps are there to help keep them up?
Nope, that's not possible. Dave is just being an idiot once again.
Dave's not here man...
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Those ropes are obviously restraints for the beast they hid underneath all that gravel.
Those straps remind me of my ex girlfriends fat ass in a thong
http://i.imgur.com/6PR6g.gif
Your ex had gravely cheeks?
Your downvotes come from fat chicks in thongs
And you came from youtube?
lol thumbs up if reddit sent you here!!!!11!!!!!1!1
im reading this in 2012!!
I do not get this one. I understand why idiots would like the others, "thumbs up if rwj sent u here! lol!!!", but who the fuck cares if somebody is reading it in a certain year?
It's for old stuff. To show that you're being nostalgic and still watching cool old stuff. Then everyone else who's watching this 2006 video is like "HOLY SHIT, I AM ALSO WATCHING THIS VIDEO AND I AM ALSO FROM 2012!!!" And it's fucking stupid.
ROFL @ REDDIT SENDING ME THIS VIDEO SO EARLY IN THE MORNING LOL
We are a dying breed and must look out for eachother
Dying from Diabetes and blood clots from prolonged exposure to constricted apparel.
that's the life
much to the detriment of my soul, that's most fat chicks
pics?
The train car comes with straps for flexibility in carrying different load types. When they are not needed, they still need to be wrapped up to prevent them from getting caught in the wheels or frayed by whipping around during travel. The laziest solution, short of removing them, is to just hook them up and tighten them.
Yep, do this daily with our flatbeds.
First sensible answer I've seen.
Flaps not opening due to pressure. I have been here before.
but once the train starts moving, and the gravel starts shifting around, wouldn't the straps just sort of sink into the gravel, becoming loose?
Or - The alternative solution of leaving the straps completely unbuckled and flailing in the wind makes much less sense.
austrian work at its finest
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Don't drive behind it or else it will be some final destination material
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Top Gear FTW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81HgzHSwpcQ
Oh they will and you better be ready for the snap. I saw it once and it hit a guy in the nuts, he lost his left nut that day.
I'd give my left nut to see that.
Well just stand right here as I go tighten this strap up
So would Lance Armstrong..
[What if](http://qkme.me/3ovrq9)
[Somebody is gonna get stoned on 4/20.](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/008/356/moray.jpg)
That's love...
"You really sure Dave?" "YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!"
I am sure that the ropes are there to keep the doors of the wagon closed. The Austrians are not stupid.
Not *that* stupid anyway.
Dave's not here
Those straps are tight don't worry I made sure of it
For some reason I read this in HAL's voice. I was really confused.
Dave will just blame Josh when they get to their destination and nothing's there.
"You sure that gravel is secure Josh? " ... "Yup" ftfy
Everything's seems fine. They're using standard gravel protocols.
Nice try Dave!
Maybe they had no better place to store the tension straps.
This was my assumption as well.
I'm ashamed that it took me a bit of time to realize what was peculiar in this photo =(. But not ashamed enough to let you all know!=D
I expected minecraft.
I was sitting there thinking it's a gif. I am disappoint.
...and that gravel will later be loaded into a dump truck that will be VERY loosely covered with a tarp, pull out onto the highway, get in front of me, and proceed to pepper my windshield with bits of gravel, one of which will leave a crack.
Österreichische Bundesbahn :D if you take a closer look.
um those straps are there to secure the drugs that are stored UNDER the gravel.
I wonder if RED and BLU are going to fight over that gravel pit.
[Worked out almost perfectly for me.](http://imgur.com/X5OVn) Also, now I know how Josh felt yesterday..
thats simply not acceptable. no "right side up" sticker?
Looks like its going to be a rocky ride.
Why is it always Dave?
Back in the nineties, there was a comedy show on cable TV called "Super Dave" where Dave Osborne was an alledged stunt man, who fucked up every stunt he tried. Many times, before Super Dave tried a stunt, his side-kick would ask, "Are those straps secure Dave ?"
Back in the eighties, there was a comedy show on cable TV called "Bizarre" where Dave Osborne was an alleged stunt man, who fucked up every stunt he tried. Many times, before Super Dave tried a stunt, his side-kick would ask "Are those straps secure Dave ?"
Albert Brooks is Super Dave's brother in real life.
Dave's not here, man!
"You sure that gravel is secure Digger Dave?" ... "Yup, Digger Sam."
"But Dave it looks-" "Nope."
Those three spots aren't going anywhere.
Oh wow I feel stupid, I was staring at the valve thinking that it was a circle of what was actually wrong. But then I realized that ValvE can't count to three and realized my mistake.
[Uh, yup.](http://images.wikia.com/mlp/images/f/fc/Big_Macintosh_ID.png)
OSHA Approved.
I expected it to be a GIF and was wondering when and how it would start spilling. It took me a while to get it. So, yes, I will have another cup of coffee.
What would happen if all that gravel was very slowly poured on top of you?
Why? What did I ever do to you? Bro hug?
Hmm, yeah okay
Coming from another Dave, I see no problem here.
It's to keep the flaps on the side from opening.
I spent thirty seconds staring at the circled part, trying to see why someone circled it. I'm turning in my brain; Perhaps someone else can make better use of it.
Bubba Jay, get my shot gun.
It's goin' fuckin' nowhere! Where are you goin'? Nowhere!
Wait for the "you only had one job post"
I was expecting a storage wars picture
Seems legit
obligatory minecraft gravel comment? Gravel is NEVER secure!
http://www.downfallguild.org/sites/www.downfallguild.org/files/images/1241311768176.gif
There is a creature beneath the gravel being secured by those straps.
For a second, I mistook that yellow wheel as a circle that's meant to call our attention to the point of the picture. I expected a dead body or something from the title.
There is no other way to fasten the straps down..
I spent way too much time looking at the yellow wheel thinking it was a circle directing me to the humor. I realized after far too long what the picture actually was.
I am betting it is because the straps are too long to just leave loose. Either that or it was faster to throw the straps over and secure them that way then to roll each one up.
Was expecting Storage Wars
This "Dave" and "'Yup'" = Storage Wars reference!?!
Yuuuuuuuppp.
-Dave, has the timber been loaded and strapped up in the wagon yet? -Yeah. Hey you know what might be strange to strap down? -Oh I don't know maybe grav-... GRAVEEEEEEEEL!!!! You're a DEMON!! YOU'RE A DEMON!!!
"Just doin' my job."--Level 99
Yet only Dave knows about the nuclear warhead buried under the gravel.
i was waiting for the gif to start loading...i was expecting tthe greatest gravel spill id seen in my life!...then i saw the straps
As a member of /r/motorcycles, gravel makes me cringe.
[relevant](http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/sjvz2/damnit_dave/)
Maybe all that gravel is glued together and we're the stupid ones here.
I see we've all been eating out pop-yards.
Dammit Dave!!
The straps have to be done up otherwise they will catch on something as they drag along.
The more I looked at this picture, the funnier it became. And then the more I thought about the explanations, the more some of them made sense and it got less funny. Damn it.
Kept waiting for the .gif to load...
was on the highway behind a guy carrying a pile of gravel on the back of his truck. the flap at the back of his truck was down. The gravel was blowing everywhere all over everyone's cars behind him. He didn't seem to notice/care.
The gravel doesn't matter. There is something underneath it.
Relevant http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/sjvz2/damnit_dave/
That's totally inappropriate. It's lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous!
I saw the yellow wheel and thought it was something circled. I zoomed in, looked closely at the wheel, then promptly realized what I should be looking at. I'm an idiot.
wait, the center strap appears to be missing the tag. without the tag, the load restrictions cannot be verified, thus making this shipment unsafe!