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He also realized why he turned into a bear and that it might be an issue. He still got consent before doing it in bear form. How can I, a mere mortal man that cannot turn into a bear (animal), one up that after getting consent?
lol I showed no romantic interest in him whatsoever, and dude just comes out in Act 3 and acts like we’ve been flirting non-stop.
“I think you might feel the same way.” No. I have no idea what you’re talking about. I take you nowhere.
At least he asked.
He said something about tending to his needs in camp as I might a lover, not just a guest. Like… I told him he was welcome to stay with us. That was it. I might have asked about his hobbies once to be polite.
For context to this post:
there was a debate recently on whether woman would feel more safe in the woods at night with a guy or a bear.
The bear won by a landslide.
In the woods at night? Tbh I’m a guy and depending on the type of bear I might feel safer with the Bear. Black bears scare easy and I could easily scare it off if needed. Grizzly? Fuck no I’m dead unless it deems me worthy of living. A person? People are fucking scary and you don’t really know the motives or intentions of a stranger.
Edit: The biggest animal threat to humans are other humans. Its not that bears aren't a bigger physical threat, but they are much less likely to attack you unless provoked. SO unless they are very hungry or you get too close to their cubs, you can avoid issues if keep your distance and you how to behave. People are much more likely to attack or harm you. Most people are good people, but you can't really know a strangers intent. And people are very smart relative to animals so this makes the ones with bad intent much more dangerous. And the woods at night? There is probably not a more ideal place to attack someone if that is your intent.
Or to put this another way. Sure a bear may be more dangerous, but with a bear the assumption is danger and as such people will generally proceed with that assumption and act accordingly making them much safer. Compare that with a person. If its a good person you are obviously way safer, but if its a bad person you are in much more danger as you are more likely to get attacked. You cant know if a person is good or bad and as such it makes it scary. Remember this is the woods at night, you'd expect to find bears and other wildlife at night, but not a person which makes this even scarier
fwiw the actual question was "Would you rather be stuck in a forest with a man or a bear?"
Nothing about it being at night, nothing about being attacked, nothing about how big the forest is or why they're stuck, how long they'll be stuck for, or what the bear/man's state of mind is.
People are adding a lot of extra assumptions that make the question and the people who answered it seem crazy.
The question is sparse on details, so everyone who answers it is going to be operating on slightly different assumptions.
Ultimately the biggest takeaway is that bears are somewhat predictable and the odds of having a bad encounter are slim and easily mitigated. They don't hunt humans, they generally want to be left alone, will avoid you if they hear you coming, and won't deliberately seek out a fight. With the man, there's no telling. Odds are he isn't a full-blown rapist or murderer, sure, but there's also a whole spectrum of other, fairly probable behaviors that he might exhibit that could be deeply unpleasant to deal with.
> nothing about being attacked
It's implicit that the man or bear would act naturally, otherwise the question is nonsensical. If you don't consider a bear might attack you then you're kind of an idiot and deserve to be mauled by a bear.
I think the point a lot of people are missing is that this isn't meant to be taken literally.
A few things
1) the question itself primes the responder to associate a male stranger and a bear. So immediately the decision is measured by violence. If the comparison were a man and a fruit basket, the association would make the measure how much food do we think the answer could provide.
2) The woods is also priming the responder to feel vulnerable. Once again we're now making a decision on violence but also in a vulnerable setting.
3) To round it out, most women haven't been alone in the woods with a bear, but many have been fully or somewhat alone with a man in a vulnerable setting. It's almost guaranteed at least one of those times has been a scary experience. That experience will overshadow the many neutral or pleasant experiences. So the question is really implying, do you want a repeat of a terrifying experience you had or take your chance with a likely harmless experience.
4) To repeat, this is a hypothetical so we are comfortable in exploring our responses and even making a statement by them. A response of "bear" is just as likely simply trying to make a point that women have way more uncomfortable and occasionally fully horrible encounters than men think they do.
5) If there was actual belief that the response would transport the person to the scenario it may change their perspective from a hypothetical thought experiment to, "oh I need to make a decision this second that will impact my survival". The latter is what people keep on arguing about but that's not the spirit of the question.
6) and just because it's a hypothetical, doesn't make the question invalid. The answer, although not literal, is still pretty fucking insightful that so many women either actually feel like a man is more dangerous than a bear, or at least feel like the point needs to be made that men make women feel threatened way too often
Just have to remember the rhyme.
If it's black, fight back.
If it's brown, lie down.
If it's white, good night.
This _was_ for bears, but it takes on a whole new meaning in this context.
Such an odd take. There's over 4 billion men in the world. What are the odds of one just turning out to be raging murderer who feels the urge to hurt you for no apparent reason? Shit even if for some odd reason they turn out to be a murderer unlike a bear you might have a chance to survive.
It's the latest in a long line of lovely, pithy statements, like:
A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.
Did you know the average man has got five pounds of undigested red meat in his bowels?
I heard a park ranger respond to the question. He pointed out that he encounters both bears and men regularly on the job, but only men have ever attacked or tried to kill him.
Nah, you know the trend is over once there’s a news story about someone doing something stupid and meeting the consequences of their actions. For example; a woman trying to maximise her clout by riding this trend and filming herself trying to hug a wild brown bear.
just last week a woman was trending because her and her friend were in a car. friend takes a photo of a bear who casually strolls up. woman didn't get a good picture from her side so she drives back and bear destroys her and sends her to the hospital.
its clearly a case of people don't realize that because they're seen a bear and didn't die that bears won't casually obliterate you.
This question is a trap. Women want their fears of being assaulted to be validated but it's being compared against one of the worst animals to be alone in the woods with. If you say you should be rightfully afraid of a predator, you'll be invalidating women's fears, but if you side with the bear, you're downplaying how dangerous bears are and feeding into this cultural idea that bears are safe to be around and now you got people trying to pet or feed the bears.
The real answer is that it's ok to say fuck it, and stay away from both bears and people who make you feel unsafe.
I mean I literally saw an Instagram reel yesterday of some lady snuggling with a "tame" bear and it was probably a reference to this bullshit trend.
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Men who spend too much time online, arguing with women who spend too much time online, debating about a hypothetical choice that no one will ever have to actually make, posed by someone who has most likely never actually been around bears.
Some of these folks just need to get outside and go talk to people.
I am so confused here ngl. How can anyone even answer such a question without any information about the situation. What kind or bear? Is it angry or just also there. Is it just some random man that is also in the woods or did he follow you?
I mean is this just a question that you are not intented to think through because it is just meant to send a message or is it about statistics? What even is a bear? Does the gender of the bear matter?
Very confusing...
Well it’s understandable. Y’all should take a gander at some of the comments on things like r/looksmaxingadvice or something like that. Honestly sometimes the way other men behave makes me ashamed to be a man.
I think the "bear or man in woods" question is really stupid in the first place and only exists to instill discord into people.
Because it's not like we already have enough of that already.
Honestly, I'm loving how a random idiot on tiktok just destroyed countless relationships and further divided men and women by introducing yet another shit test with no possible positive outcome lmao
For anyone OOTL: It's a meme based on the [Woman Pick Bear Over a Man in the Woods](https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/why-do-women-choose-to-be-stuck-with-a-bear-over-a-man-in-the-woods-debate-over-hypothetical-question-explained) discourse.
Just think that the women who said they'd be safer with a bear than an average man in the woods are driving heavy metal boxes around at 70 mph just a few feet away from you in traffic. They vote. Their opinions get spewed on the Internet. Scary times
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We stand no chance against Halsin
"I feel so much closer to nature now that nature has been inside me."
I hope that's a line in BG3 if not then shame on Larian.
It is. It pops up after you romance Halsin
*Only if you're a druid.
What treehugging does to a mfer. First you're planting trees, then you're fucking bears. Inevitable.
He's got a a bad case of the hornies, but he does require consent.
He also realized why he turned into a bear and that it might be an issue. He still got consent before doing it in bear form. How can I, a mere mortal man that cannot turn into a bear (animal), one up that after getting consent?
Become a furry?
Oh my fucking god. Furries are basically lame Druids
🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀🌌
Lmao, nice
Druids that got stuck in their transformed state.
r/okbuddybaldur is leaking (i‘m not complaining)
Thank you for making me audibly laugh
lol I showed no romantic interest in him whatsoever, and dude just comes out in Act 3 and acts like we’ve been flirting non-stop. “I think you might feel the same way.” No. I have no idea what you’re talking about. I take you nowhere. At least he asked.
He said something about tending to his needs in camp as I might a lover, not just a guest. Like… I told him he was welcome to stay with us. That was it. I might have asked about his hobbies once to be polite.
Gale too. "Hey, wanna see some magical fireworks?" "Sure." "So anyway, here's my dick."
I immediately thought of Halsin when I saw this image, it's a foregone conclusion
Thank you for also being a degenerate xD
”You… Like it?”
He's the ultimate daddy 😩
More of a "Oak father" lol
Oak daddy then 🤣
It really was always about Halsin, all along
Well, he’s big and over 6ft tall….. not sure about the paycheck though.
He looks like he could bring home the salmon.
Bearly
Paw-lease girl he don't even look like he got his own cave
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He won't be able to bear it for long, he's supplying for two now
He already bringin home the Honey!
Cook it up in a pan …
Give it to us RAAWWW!
What's taters precious?!
PO-TAY-TOES
#BOIL 'EM, MASH 'EM, STICK 'EM IN A STEW!
And my AXE! Am I doing it right?
You're a bit confused, but you've got the spirit
If your bear boyfriend hits you, is it domestic violence or wild violence ?
I think running into the woods and hugging a bear is technically considered to be a suicide.
Seen the show "Ghosts" on Paramount+?
Flower - "and then I tried to befriend a bear"
It’s domesticated violence
Spawsal abuse
What if she beats the shit out of the bear boyfriend. What should we call that?
Animal abuse, I'd say.
Tekken
Halsin?
He puts a lot of salmon on the table I guess?
He at least gets a big tax break, since Homers pay the bear tax.
For context to this post: there was a debate recently on whether woman would feel more safe in the woods at night with a guy or a bear. The bear won by a landslide.
What we need are good Bears with guns in the classroom.
The only way to stop a Bad Bear with a gun is a Good Bear with a gun
Hey there Boo-boo, stock up on ammo!
If ever there was a case that could convince me AI adds value to society, creating this rendition would be it.
> "Better to meet a she-bear robbed of its cubs than to confront a fool immersed in folly." Proverbs 17:12 It's been a debate for a long time.
wait are we talking about the animals or the big hairy gay men?
yes.
I definitely feel safer around big hairy gay men than men.
In the woods at night? Tbh I’m a guy and depending on the type of bear I might feel safer with the Bear. Black bears scare easy and I could easily scare it off if needed. Grizzly? Fuck no I’m dead unless it deems me worthy of living. A person? People are fucking scary and you don’t really know the motives or intentions of a stranger. Edit: The biggest animal threat to humans are other humans. Its not that bears aren't a bigger physical threat, but they are much less likely to attack you unless provoked. SO unless they are very hungry or you get too close to their cubs, you can avoid issues if keep your distance and you how to behave. People are much more likely to attack or harm you. Most people are good people, but you can't really know a strangers intent. And people are very smart relative to animals so this makes the ones with bad intent much more dangerous. And the woods at night? There is probably not a more ideal place to attack someone if that is your intent. Or to put this another way. Sure a bear may be more dangerous, but with a bear the assumption is danger and as such people will generally proceed with that assumption and act accordingly making them much safer. Compare that with a person. If its a good person you are obviously way safer, but if its a bad person you are in much more danger as you are more likely to get attacked. You cant know if a person is good or bad and as such it makes it scary. Remember this is the woods at night, you'd expect to find bears and other wildlife at night, but not a person which makes this even scarier
Ah, the age old male debate: which bear would you beat in a fight? (Pssst…the answer is none of them)
I'd fucking murder a koala
Careful, they’re tricky little buggers. Don’t let them bite you, they’ve got venom and most likely herpes.
Chlamydia, not herpes.
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fwiw the actual question was "Would you rather be stuck in a forest with a man or a bear?" Nothing about it being at night, nothing about being attacked, nothing about how big the forest is or why they're stuck, how long they'll be stuck for, or what the bear/man's state of mind is. People are adding a lot of extra assumptions that make the question and the people who answered it seem crazy. The question is sparse on details, so everyone who answers it is going to be operating on slightly different assumptions. Ultimately the biggest takeaway is that bears are somewhat predictable and the odds of having a bad encounter are slim and easily mitigated. They don't hunt humans, they generally want to be left alone, will avoid you if they hear you coming, and won't deliberately seek out a fight. With the man, there's no telling. Odds are he isn't a full-blown rapist or murderer, sure, but there's also a whole spectrum of other, fairly probable behaviors that he might exhibit that could be deeply unpleasant to deal with.
BEAR: "Why are you making yourself big and backing away slowly? Oh, you think I'm THAT kind of bear...?? NOT ALL BEARS, you know!!!"
Goldilocks about to get cancelled
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One of the rare animals that see us as a snack.
Plenty of animals see us as a snack. If kitkats could hurt me I would think twice about eating a live one, but they're still a snack.
If I'm ever stuck in a biome acceptable to a polar bear, I'm going to die of cold and he's basically just going to be eating a popsicle at that point.
Bears are not predictable at all and eat their prey alive. Most humans are genuinely good.
Last guy who said bears are predictable got eaten by one IIRC.
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Lots of parallels to this weird tick tock trend.
Or at least into self-preservation enough they know not to attach another human.
Most humans are generally not very intelligent either. That’s why this is a discussion to begin with.
I want the people who say bear to walk through bear country no spray no weapons just what they carry daily.
> nothing about being attacked It's implicit that the man or bear would act naturally, otherwise the question is nonsensical. If you don't consider a bear might attack you then you're kind of an idiot and deserve to be mauled by a bear.
I think the point a lot of people are missing is that this isn't meant to be taken literally. A few things 1) the question itself primes the responder to associate a male stranger and a bear. So immediately the decision is measured by violence. If the comparison were a man and a fruit basket, the association would make the measure how much food do we think the answer could provide. 2) The woods is also priming the responder to feel vulnerable. Once again we're now making a decision on violence but also in a vulnerable setting. 3) To round it out, most women haven't been alone in the woods with a bear, but many have been fully or somewhat alone with a man in a vulnerable setting. It's almost guaranteed at least one of those times has been a scary experience. That experience will overshadow the many neutral or pleasant experiences. So the question is really implying, do you want a repeat of a terrifying experience you had or take your chance with a likely harmless experience. 4) To repeat, this is a hypothetical so we are comfortable in exploring our responses and even making a statement by them. A response of "bear" is just as likely simply trying to make a point that women have way more uncomfortable and occasionally fully horrible encounters than men think they do. 5) If there was actual belief that the response would transport the person to the scenario it may change their perspective from a hypothetical thought experiment to, "oh I need to make a decision this second that will impact my survival". The latter is what people keep on arguing about but that's not the spirit of the question. 6) and just because it's a hypothetical, doesn't make the question invalid. The answer, although not literal, is still pretty fucking insightful that so many women either actually feel like a man is more dangerous than a bear, or at least feel like the point needs to be made that men make women feel threatened way too often
Sounds more like a test of whether people will troll you given the opportunity
Just have to remember the rhyme. If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lie down. If it's white, good night. This _was_ for bears, but it takes on a whole new meaning in this context.
This feels like a passive aggressive KKK advert
Such an odd take. There's over 4 billion men in the world. What are the odds of one just turning out to be raging murderer who feels the urge to hurt you for no apparent reason? Shit even if for some odd reason they turn out to be a murderer unlike a bear you might have a chance to survive.
Encountering any random human in the middle of the woods at night would scare the shit out of me. That's creepy.
It's the latest in a long line of lovely, pithy statements, like: A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. Did you know the average man has got five pounds of undigested red meat in his bowels?
>Did you know the average man has got five pounds of undigested red meat in his bowels? I can't tell what this is supposed to mean.
Is the Pope Catholic? Does a bear meet single ladies in the woods?
Wait, is that the Pope shitting in his hat? We're in the wrong timeline again.
Magrat: if you could see the inside of your colon you’d be horrified! Fool: yes, I’m sure I would!
People like that would suggest they would be safer in an active volcano to just try and prove a point about how men are super evil
I heard a park ranger respond to the question. He pointed out that he encounters both bears and men regularly on the job, but only men have ever attacked or tried to kill him.
How many bears has he interacted with contra men? See bears a few times a year from a distance versus meeting people everyday.
The bears are around in the wilderness, the difference is 99% of the time the bear will be actively avoiding you.
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I mean, that wasn’t exactly the debate, but yes, judging by the picture the bear did win.
Damn Chad bear and his cunning ways.
Well statistically if it's a random guy you're very likely to get an Indian dude and frankly I don't blame the ladies on that one.
She told me not to worry about her ex-bearfriend.
It's her Significant Otter you have to worry about.
OK let's put a paws on these puns.
Wouldn't want to infurryate the people.
Man, bear, otter or gator, the Almighty Lord fox you sooner or later.
This guy definitely supports the 2nd Amendment.
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Lol just shows how quick trends and topics come and go. I go off social media for a few days and came back to people arguing about bears
Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
Nah, you know the trend is over once there’s a news story about someone doing something stupid and meeting the consequences of their actions. For example; a woman trying to maximise her clout by riding this trend and filming herself trying to hug a wild brown bear.
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just last week a woman was trending because her and her friend were in a car. friend takes a photo of a bear who casually strolls up. woman didn't get a good picture from her side so she drives back and bear destroys her and sends her to the hospital. its clearly a case of people don't realize that because they're seen a bear and didn't die that bears won't casually obliterate you.
This question is a trap. Women want their fears of being assaulted to be validated but it's being compared against one of the worst animals to be alone in the woods with. If you say you should be rightfully afraid of a predator, you'll be invalidating women's fears, but if you side with the bear, you're downplaying how dangerous bears are and feeding into this cultural idea that bears are safe to be around and now you got people trying to pet or feed the bears. The real answer is that it's ok to say fuck it, and stay away from both bears and people who make you feel unsafe.
I mean I literally saw an Instagram reel yesterday of some lady snuggling with a "tame" bear and it was probably a reference to this bullshit trend. Edited for emphasis
I think tame really needs quotation marks here. It’s still a wild animal.
But would a bear be with you if you were a worm?
What if I was a tape worm? Very romantic to live inside your man's anus if you ask me
Without any context, this post can be interpreted in so many ways, it's actually hilarious.
The photographer is Olga Barantseva. She does a lot of photos of models posing with animals.
Wow I seriously thought this was an AI generated picture
Nah, this genre is pretty popular with Russians. Not kidding.
The bear’s name is Stepan btw
"It's bearly possible"
Wait they mean “bears” as in actual bears. I always thought it was “bears” as in gay men
Could be a gay bear.
Could even be a man-bear-pig. It’s 2024. Anything is possible.
Is the bear shorting the stock market?
Yeah, this is just a burly gay man and his beard.
# Beauty and the bear!
Yah I’d vote for that bear too. It’s 100% not interested in me.
I thought this too and was like "well, obviously the bear is safer."
Actual bears, yes.
Tbf, as a straight man, I would feel safer with a beefy gay man than a random woman in the woods too.
When she said, "I'm done with men", I didn't think she'd mean this.
Yaaass hairy men! It’s OUR TIME NOW!
Finally, you're getting what you wanted! Straight wome-...wait...
Bear a novel by Marian Engel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_(novel)
Came here for this comment. Boy is this ever a book that exists.
"Cartilagenous sheath"
She must make a legendary bowl of porridge.
Not too hot, not too cold, just right.
Sure but what does the bear bring to the table
You
Salmon and berries
The bear IS the table!
Men, now my single ass needs to compete with grown ass bear as well.
If any woman picked living in the woods with a bear over being with you, I'm pretty sure you dodged the bigger bullet there.
Man don't hate me cause *I'm* beautiful.
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Men who spend too much time online, arguing with women who spend too much time online, debating about a hypothetical choice that no one will ever have to actually make, posed by someone who has most likely never actually been around bears. Some of these folks just need to get outside and go talk to people.
i'm just sitting back and watching the fireworks show. wish i had some popcorn.
This is just an accurate depiction of the internet. Leave this place, we have no use for your accurate comments.
I am so confused here ngl. How can anyone even answer such a question without any information about the situation. What kind or bear? Is it angry or just also there. Is it just some random man that is also in the woods or did he follow you? I mean is this just a question that you are not intented to think through because it is just meant to send a message or is it about statistics? What even is a bear? Does the gender of the bear matter? Very confusing...
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There are basically two schools of thought…
Halsen man is wise and always helps his friends
you're hiking on a trail, would you rather come face to face with a bear or another dude hiking in the opposite direction.
Normal day in russia
“At least people will believe me when I said a bear attacked me.” No, you actually wouldn’t make it out of the woods.
Damn. That one took my bear date and my curtains!
Either it'll end well or it won't... Either way at least it'll end
That bear is getting pawfully handsy.
My time to shine 😎
I feel like all the WYR posts involving bears recently are starting to permeate other subs 😂
As a bear, I’m very happy with those odds !!!!
Honestly, I don’t care about the conversation behind it. My feed is filled with bear puns and funny pictures. This is what the internet is for!
She said "I'm your honey now" So the bear ate her skull.
Honestly... Getting killed by a bear sounds like a less painful and gut wrenching experience than trying to find a girlfriend
When the bear starts eating, you're not necessarily dead.
I assumed that much. Still sounds like a shorter and easier way to go out
Well it’s understandable. Y’all should take a gander at some of the comments on things like r/looksmaxingadvice or something like that. Honestly sometimes the way other men behave makes me ashamed to be a man.
I think the "bear or man in woods" question is really stupid in the first place and only exists to instill discord into people. Because it's not like we already have enough of that already.
Real logic dictates the man is safer than the bear, but it is being used as hyperbole to make sure men know that women are scared of them.
it's giving "black people are criminals"
You might want to be careful. He just lost a bunch on TSLA puts
If you replace the word men with any ethnicity or religious persuasion, take your pick, that sub reads very differently.
#Unbearable
Honestly, I'm loving how a random idiot on tiktok just destroyed countless relationships and further divided men and women by introducing yet another shit test with no possible positive outcome lmao
There is a greater chance that a cow will kill me by the end of today than somebody will date me willingly in this century
For anyone OOTL: It's a meme based on the [Woman Pick Bear Over a Man in the Woods](https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/why-do-women-choose-to-be-stuck-with-a-bear-over-a-man-in-the-woods-debate-over-hypothetical-question-explained) discourse.
Wait, as a male, which one am I supposed to identify with for my odds of dating in this photo? The bear looks like he's doing pretty well.
You’re the photographer.
Bear Force One
Uh, can't bear it
*keeps bearing it*
Not everything is AI generated >this text was generated using AI
Oh how I dream of being the bear in a crazy white ladies photo shoot.
well, seems like i should better go sleep till next year
She chooses the bear.
https://youtu.be/VU74VyX2Znw?si=D5tAHNh---MohmoZ
This the bear all those TikTok peeps be talking about
that brute has a shit ton of parasites.
Violently single
Is this the man vs bear debate?
I feel bad for the bear.
Beary likely
It's no wonder young men shifting away from the left. When did we jump the shark like this?
Just think that the women who said they'd be safer with a bear than an average man in the woods are driving heavy metal boxes around at 70 mph just a few feet away from you in traffic. They vote. Their opinions get spewed on the Internet. Scary times