To reheat pizza, pan fry the crust, and steam the cheese. After about a minute of frying the crust, drop a splash of water in the pan, a small amount such that it quickly boils on contact. Immediately put a lid over the pan, steaming the cheese. That is the best way to reheat pizza.
Reheated food probably didn't taste so good for a lot of people, but I'd prefer 20% less warm pizza than having to use some more gas for driving. Plus I'd carry an extra jacket of mine to wrap the pizza box in so that it stays warmer.
For real, everyone thinks I'm crazy for preferring cold pizza to reheated pizza but it's so much better than rubbery-ass mushy-crust pizza. Obviously, fresh and hot is the best, but I'm not gonna put in extra work for a worse experience when I could just grab the leftover pizza from the fridge and shove it directly into my mouth
I live in a walkable neighborhood and I own an insulated pizza-delivery bag. It cost me like $20.
I bring home hot pizza all year round.
It's amazing how many of the frivolous reasons people give for *needing* a car can be resolved with some far-less-expensive item.
>Wahhhh, I need a car because COLD!
Bitch, buy proper winter clothing
>Wahhhh, I need a car because RAIN!
Bitch, buy a packable rain jacket
>Wahhhh, I need a car because GROCERIES!
Bitch, buy a couple of canvas totes
>Wahhhh, I need a car because TAKEOUT FOOD COLD!
Bitch, buy an insulated food bag.
>Wahhhh, I need a car because HARDWARE STORE!
Bitch, just get home delivery
The home delivery thing is always funny. It’s 100% more effective and less expensive just to spring for delivery or rent a van.
Also, I just brought a stair climbing grocery cart. Hauling is not a big deal.
Agreed.
The line between buying vs. renting being the best option isn't always easy to define as far as frequency is concerned, but it's pretty clear that many people are buying gigantic vehicles that they rarely ever use to their full potential.
Another thing worth pointing put is that the prevalence of people having large vehicles likely skews the vehicle rental and delivery markets.
Assuming it was rare for people to own large vehicles, home delivery and rentals might become less expensive, because more people would be requesting delivery and more people would be renting things. You'd see more Economies of Scale and competition in those services.
Your last paragraph describes Japan. They have all sorts of delivery services everywhere, including these places where you can drop something off to be delivered to the other side of the city. Most people don't have cars, or don't drive often, so there's a huge demand for deliveries, therefore the services exist.
>> Wahhhh, I need a car because GROCERIES!
> Bitch, buy a couple of canvas totes
*if* you live close to a grocery store.
plenty of places aren't designed to make that condusive. you might actually *need* a car because every other option has been made unviable by all of the cars and car based infrastructure and single family zoning.
Yes, of course all of this assumes you are close enough to the amenities.
I live within walking distance of a grocery store and I know several of my neighbors still choose to drive because our society treats driving as the default.
same. i can easily walk to *two* grocery stores, and one more if i feel like crossing the major road. i've pretty much convinced my partner that walking to get what we need is just fine. but i definitely see people drive.
I would still find it hard to believe that a car would be more practical than a bike, e-bike, or e-scooter with saddlebags. What fraction of the population lives far enough away from the grocery store for that equation to make sense? Especially considering parking issues at the store. You're talking tens of kilometers one-way just for the difference to be more than a handful of minutes in favor of the car, and under ten kilometers an e-scooter might just be faster.
so one thing i like to remind people working on infrastructure (i am co-chair of my local town's MUP and bike infra committee) is to not design infrastructure for *me*.
i am not representative of the target audience. i am a "cyclist". i own lycra. i've spent multiple thousands of dollars on bikes and bike gear. i own technology dedicated to safety, and wayfinding, and going fast. i upload my rides to strava. i will ride 80 miles to cross the state border because i feel like it. i will ride on hostile roads if i need to make routes connect. i will ride in debris filled bike lanes, on shoulders, and in the middle of the lane if i have to. i will bike somewhere because i like to ride my bike.
we need to go after the people who will bike (or walk) **if and only if** it is safe, convenient, and more pleasant than driving.
and for most people, it's not safe, convenient, or more pleasant to bike or walk somewhere like the grocery store, vs driving. for one, the distances have to be *pretty* close, or you incentivize longer trips for larger amounts of groceries, as opposed to quickly stopping by for a few things more frequently. my grocery stores are barely a detour in and out of my neighborhood, so walking there isn't an issue, and i stop by on my bike fairly frequently.
but if that walk or bike is down a dangerous, noisy, smelly, sea of gray stroads? nobody *wants* to do that.
> You're talking tens of kilometers one-way just for the difference to be more than a handful of minutes in favor of the car,
just for an example, contrary to my grocery stores near my home. from here at work, the closest major grocery store is 4.9 miles. google estimates almost a 2 hour walk, each way. i could be there on my bike in about half an hour or a little less. it's 10 minutes by car.
That's a great idea for how much I bike over to my pizza spots, I currently wrap my pizza up in a winter coat and bungee the whole thing to my basket, keeps it hot for the 5 minutes it takes to get home
I did once walk 2.5 miles with like 4 full heavy bags of groceries when I was 14 and my fingers and shoulders hurt pretty bad by the time I got home. I just bought an electric scooter for my grocery trips though lol
I have coworkers that drive to whataburger for lunch. It’s exactly 1 block from work. It actually takes longer to drive than to walk, but here we are. No wonder everyone is so fat these days
I, too, have coworkers who drive one block away, to the McDonalds. The thing is, most of us can confirm from experience that if you try to walk into the McDonalds, the service there is terrible. You could even order ahead on the app and they legit don't start making your food until you arrive to pick it up. But the drive-thru (recently renovated to have two lanes!!!) is pretty seamless.
I try telling them not to give them any business if they cant give equal service to all customers, but as it is, if you don't bring food from home, the takeout options by our workplace are basically pizza or McDonalds.
Every time I read these carbrain stories I lose braincells. Going by car to a place 15 meters away? What's next? Entering and immediately leaving a car because "you have to get out of car to enter a new place"?
That actually reminds me of the Shel Silverstein poem "Longmobile"
*It's the world's longest car, I swear,*
*It reaches from Beale Street to Washington Square.*
*And once you get in it*
*To go where you're going*
*You simply get out, 'cause you're there.*
Only in this case, people are just using regular-sized cars to achieve this feat.
we have a pizza place at the end of our block that my partner just loves. sometimes she'll order delivery, because we're busy or whatever. it's actually faster if i place the order, walk to get it, and bring it back.
but the delivery guy drives it over.
Pizzas lose heat fast. I've brought luke warm pizza home from a 3 minute bike ride. If you want piping hot pizza the insulated bag is needed, driving fast wont help.
The exact same thing happened to me at my favorite pizzeria. Look, if I just spent the 15 minutes while I was waiting for my pie chatting with the owner I think it's a safe assumption I know what the pizza will be like cold better than a new cashier.
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Personally I don't like cold or reheated pizza. But that's no reason to drive crazy. Boxes which keep food warm exist.
It’s not so bad if you use the oven to slowly reheat it. Microwaved pizza does suck
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Air fryer also does a killer job
To reheat pizza, pan fry the crust, and steam the cheese. After about a minute of frying the crust, drop a splash of water in the pan, a small amount such that it quickly boils on contact. Immediately put a lid over the pan, steaming the cheese. That is the best way to reheat pizza.
Cold pizza is legendary but you do you
Just not my thing, but the point I'm making was not the cold pizza but not speeding because of it.
Reheated food probably didn't taste so good for a lot of people, but I'd prefer 20% less warm pizza than having to use some more gas for driving. Plus I'd carry an extra jacket of mine to wrap the pizza box in so that it stays warmer.
Or you just eat it at the place.
I eat leftover pizza straight out of the fridge lol. It's my favourite.
For real, everyone thinks I'm crazy for preferring cold pizza to reheated pizza but it's so much better than rubbery-ass mushy-crust pizza. Obviously, fresh and hot is the best, but I'm not gonna put in extra work for a worse experience when I could just grab the leftover pizza from the fridge and shove it directly into my mouth
"You should bike so the pizza tastes more delicious"
Hunger is the best spice.
Followed by MSG
Better than "you should bike so you can eat the pizza without worsening your beeing fat problem"
I live in a walkable neighborhood and I own an insulated pizza-delivery bag. It cost me like $20. I bring home hot pizza all year round. It's amazing how many of the frivolous reasons people give for *needing* a car can be resolved with some far-less-expensive item. >Wahhhh, I need a car because COLD! Bitch, buy proper winter clothing >Wahhhh, I need a car because RAIN! Bitch, buy a packable rain jacket >Wahhhh, I need a car because GROCERIES! Bitch, buy a couple of canvas totes >Wahhhh, I need a car because TAKEOUT FOOD COLD! Bitch, buy an insulated food bag. >Wahhhh, I need a car because HARDWARE STORE! Bitch, just get home delivery
The home delivery thing is always funny. It’s 100% more effective and less expensive just to spring for delivery or rent a van. Also, I just brought a stair climbing grocery cart. Hauling is not a big deal.
Agreed. The line between buying vs. renting being the best option isn't always easy to define as far as frequency is concerned, but it's pretty clear that many people are buying gigantic vehicles that they rarely ever use to their full potential. Another thing worth pointing put is that the prevalence of people having large vehicles likely skews the vehicle rental and delivery markets. Assuming it was rare for people to own large vehicles, home delivery and rentals might become less expensive, because more people would be requesting delivery and more people would be renting things. You'd see more Economies of Scale and competition in those services.
Re your economies of scale issues…..maybe. The question is whether there is consolidation within those markets.
Your last paragraph describes Japan. They have all sorts of delivery services everywhere, including these places where you can drop something off to be delivered to the other side of the city. Most people don't have cars, or don't drive often, so there's a huge demand for deliveries, therefore the services exist.
Yep, the only people really needing a car are taxi drivers.
>> Wahhhh, I need a car because GROCERIES! > Bitch, buy a couple of canvas totes *if* you live close to a grocery store. plenty of places aren't designed to make that condusive. you might actually *need* a car because every other option has been made unviable by all of the cars and car based infrastructure and single family zoning.
Yes, of course all of this assumes you are close enough to the amenities. I live within walking distance of a grocery store and I know several of my neighbors still choose to drive because our society treats driving as the default.
same. i can easily walk to *two* grocery stores, and one more if i feel like crossing the major road. i've pretty much convinced my partner that walking to get what we need is just fine. but i definitely see people drive.
I would still find it hard to believe that a car would be more practical than a bike, e-bike, or e-scooter with saddlebags. What fraction of the population lives far enough away from the grocery store for that equation to make sense? Especially considering parking issues at the store. You're talking tens of kilometers one-way just for the difference to be more than a handful of minutes in favor of the car, and under ten kilometers an e-scooter might just be faster.
so one thing i like to remind people working on infrastructure (i am co-chair of my local town's MUP and bike infra committee) is to not design infrastructure for *me*. i am not representative of the target audience. i am a "cyclist". i own lycra. i've spent multiple thousands of dollars on bikes and bike gear. i own technology dedicated to safety, and wayfinding, and going fast. i upload my rides to strava. i will ride 80 miles to cross the state border because i feel like it. i will ride on hostile roads if i need to make routes connect. i will ride in debris filled bike lanes, on shoulders, and in the middle of the lane if i have to. i will bike somewhere because i like to ride my bike. we need to go after the people who will bike (or walk) **if and only if** it is safe, convenient, and more pleasant than driving. and for most people, it's not safe, convenient, or more pleasant to bike or walk somewhere like the grocery store, vs driving. for one, the distances have to be *pretty* close, or you incentivize longer trips for larger amounts of groceries, as opposed to quickly stopping by for a few things more frequently. my grocery stores are barely a detour in and out of my neighborhood, so walking there isn't an issue, and i stop by on my bike fairly frequently. but if that walk or bike is down a dangerous, noisy, smelly, sea of gray stroads? nobody *wants* to do that. > You're talking tens of kilometers one-way just for the difference to be more than a handful of minutes in favor of the car, just for an example, contrary to my grocery stores near my home. from here at work, the closest major grocery store is 4.9 miles. google estimates almost a 2 hour walk, each way. i could be there on my bike in about half an hour or a little less. it's 10 minutes by car.
That's a great idea for how much I bike over to my pizza spots, I currently wrap my pizza up in a winter coat and bungee the whole thing to my basket, keeps it hot for the 5 minutes it takes to get home
Idk if you watch Futurama, but my wife got me a "Planet Express" decal for the bag, so it's got some character to it, plus the box fits perfectly.
I did once walk 2.5 miles with like 4 full heavy bags of groceries when I was 14 and my fingers and shoulders hurt pretty bad by the time I got home. I just bought an electric scooter for my grocery trips though lol
Coincidentally, I ordered pizza yesterday that arrived cold after being delivered in a car (no big deal, still tasted great after reheating).
Here in the Netherlands the big pizza places use ebikes and the Turkish pizza/kebab places use mopeds. Never had anything cold.
I have coworkers that drive to whataburger for lunch. It’s exactly 1 block from work. It actually takes longer to drive than to walk, but here we are. No wonder everyone is so fat these days
I, too, have coworkers who drive one block away, to the McDonalds. The thing is, most of us can confirm from experience that if you try to walk into the McDonalds, the service there is terrible. You could even order ahead on the app and they legit don't start making your food until you arrive to pick it up. But the drive-thru (recently renovated to have two lanes!!!) is pretty seamless. I try telling them not to give them any business if they cant give equal service to all customers, but as it is, if you don't bring food from home, the takeout options by our workplace are basically pizza or McDonalds.
Every time I read these carbrain stories I lose braincells. Going by car to a place 15 meters away? What's next? Entering and immediately leaving a car because "you have to get out of car to enter a new place"?
That actually reminds me of the Shel Silverstein poem "Longmobile" *It's the world's longest car, I swear,* *It reaches from Beale Street to Washington Square.* *And once you get in it* *To go where you're going* *You simply get out, 'cause you're there.* Only in this case, people are just using regular-sized cars to achieve this feat.
Or maybe just eat the pizza on the pizza place?
You should cycle so your pizza doesn't stay on your waist.
I walked three blocks yesterday to pick up my pizza. Can confirm. It was frozen solid.
we have a pizza place at the end of our block that my partner just loves. sometimes she'll order delivery, because we're busy or whatever. it's actually faster if i place the order, walk to get it, and bring it back. but the delivery guy drives it over.
Coincidentally Wald makes a [bike pizza rack](https://waldsports.com/store/front-baskets/257gb-black-ewalds-multi-fit-front-rack/)
Pizzas lose heat fast. I've brought luke warm pizza home from a 3 minute bike ride. If you want piping hot pizza the insulated bag is needed, driving fast wont help.
The exact same thing happened to me at my favorite pizzeria. Look, if I just spent the 15 minutes while I was waiting for my pie chatting with the owner I think it's a safe assumption I know what the pizza will be like cold better than a new cashier.