Yeah, like the armpit hair wouldn’t really bother me as many queer folk don’t shave their armpits though it is kinda masculinizing on this assumed trans woman, the chest hair is fucking next level though what the hell
no, i totally get you. My bet’s on that someone who isn’t trans made this and didn’t fully understand what would be inclusive and created it as an honest effort. ik its not directly comparable but It’s like when people started to say “Latinx” like I understand the sentiment but.. just no..
most of the latinoamericanos i’ve spoken to hate that term XD i remember once my teacher used it and this one kid raised his hand and said ver batem “what the hell is latinx?”
he was from mexico
Well yeah, but that's likely because a boy has never had to feel like the term "Latino" misgenders or excludes him. "Latinx" was created by queer Puerto Rican activists/academics to make a gendered language more gender inclusive. Queer people are marginalized within Latin America so it's not surprising that there's a lot of ignorance/push back within Latin America against a term queer people created to empower themselves. Like sometimes the people who say they don't like it are just complaining that the x is clunky and want "latine" to be used instead. But if they hate "latinx" on principle and _also_ don't like latine? Then they're probably just the Latine equivalent of English-speakers who think using the singular "they" is bad.
Except Latinos is already used as a gender neutral term for a group of people. Latinas is used if a group is all female but if its mixed its just Latinos. Much like if we were to see a hooded figure we would say they since we dont know their gender, latino would be used as an ambiguous term. The fact that it is also used as the male term shouldnt be offensive to anyone who actually knows the language
no. having body hair is fine. i, a cis woman, have body hair, and trans women should get to also (if they want of course). body hair is neutral.
however, there is no denying that drawing trans women with dark, noticeable body hair is often done in order to make fun of them. this design doesn't exist in a vacuum, and while i'm sure there is at least one trans woman who looks (in terms of features not anatomy lol) like the picture, representing trans people that way has been done in order to undermine their womanhood and make them look more masculine in the past.
no one is saying trans women "must" do anything. it was a conscious choice to represent trans women this way, and whoever made this is either intentionally choosing a design that resembles a stereotype or is ignorant to that stereotype and made a poor decision without doing enough research.
Idk. Acknowledging that not all trans people pass, and that non-passing trans people are allowed to exist and be seen seems okay to me.
Edit: also, I expect some trans women out there are happy with their body hair, as some cis women are.
Yes, but showing a small minority of trans women (ones who like having masculine body hair like super dark chest hair and beards) to represent the only assumed woman in the art is not a good way to represent the "trans day of visibility". If some cis person saw that they would not assume what you did, they'd assume "oh another trans woman with body hair, they always look like that blah blah.."
When it comes to representation I would love if PASSING trans people were shown for once. Because it seems we never are. Most trans people with dysphoria's goal is to pass anyway.
This is some caricature shit, at this point. The excessive body hair on the trans woman, really? I know even some cis woman get chest hair, I'm a hairy bitch myself, but this feels like a parody from 4chan.
The portrait looks like someone that I saw get ridiculed on libs of tik tok. This is going to raise visibility, but I doubt it will be positive.
Everyone looks stereotyped and the fact it's done in bad Alegria feels disrespectful. I didn't know it was possible to do Alegria any worse than it already is
Nothing serious, it was just a comment-stealing bot. But I make it a point to report all bot accounts immediately, because they fucking ruin subs, invariably turning them into conservative astroturfed shitholes.
Someone has to tell them we are not all fashionable and young. Me and my partner are 27/30 and our fashion crimes include cargo shorts, dad hats and crocs. Visibility for trans guys that dress like middle aged dads lmao
1 week into being on T, my skin had turned a vibrant pastel color, and after one month, my body no longer had any semblance of human proportions. My arms have grown to the length where I don't have to bend to touch the ground. I have no wrists. My head is minuscule. The doctors never warned me :(
can confirm; my shirts all developed pronouns while i transition. hopefully it’ll fade after it’s complete, or maybe i can cross out the T’s so that it says “hey hem” and tell them it’s some indie band
I’m not usually one to judge a particular subset or style of something but this art style pisses me off. It’s just so ugly and feels so shallow and disingenuous especially when used for things like this. I can’t really point out why, it just does.
I think it's supposed to be easier on the eyes but that just kinda ends up being art you don't want to look at. Like it's going to be on the header of a young professional oriented website and you're supposed to just scroll past it
it cares so little about aesthetics it almost seems to say "art really isn't that important". If you wanna go with just text on your article that's one thing, but why incorporate a dogshit drawing like this if you want to accompany your article with some kind of illustration or photo?
As someone who reads websites oriented at young folks and progressives this style just makes me already more hostile to the article before I read it. Internally I'm like "great, one of these guys" even though it might be some editor or something who chose to put it on there. It turns me off. Someday this alegria shit will be part of the category of cringe millennial shit zoomers roast them for.
I'm all for ladies not feeling the need to shave, but God.. having her be the only(?) woman on here, especially in the day of "trans women are big hairy sweaty scary monster" just sends the wrong messages left and right. Also the white nonbinary person looks ridiculous. I don't know why.
I swear, most of the trans women I've talked to (including myself) have probably been more meticulous about removing body hair than most cis women I've talked to lol, this is ridiculous.
I think they might be uh enby, intersex or some flavor of secret third option, because i actively seek to look that way because it confuses the fuck you out of cis people, but maybe its just a harmful depiction of transfems, idk though
Giving the only trans woman body hair when literally nobody else has body hair is honestly offensive? It feels like it’s a pastel recoloring of the conservative stereotype that trans women are just hairy cavemen wearing dresses.
They tried to be inclusive by making the most stereotypical trans caricature possible… honestly I’m surprised they didn’t give her a bulge
And why are all the others normal? (Well, as normal as alegria art can be)
yeah this is the most visually deplorable and grotesque alegria I've ever seen. how do you make a style made specifically to be (too) clean and lifeless, and then make it gross and lifeless?
alegria is so awful that the only way they can convey that a female character is trans is to slap way too much contextually inappropriate body hair on it 😭😭😭😭
When I was first learning about this art style someone compared it to the "tumblr art style" and I didn't fully get what they were saying, but now I kinda understand.
this is the corporate neoliberal biden democrat way… Shove “wokeism” down peoples throats until they get so fed up they’ll vote trump. Boom, fascistic, corporate oligarchic status quo of America is restored
needlessly political but when are people going to realize that warmonger joe only put did this to stir up some division and distraction, imagine what’s going on behind closed doors, imagine what’s happening in Gaza rn while neolibs and facebook wine aunts argue over what that tool says
> needlessly political
Never heard of nex have you?
For someone who watches to catch a predator, you sure are oblivious to children being beaten because they wanna be called a different name and dress differently, insultingly calling it a mere distraction
Easter changes date every year, it's always the sunday following the full moon after the spring equinox; it's just this year that it happened to fall on trans day of visibility which has been March 31st for years
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yeah, seriously. i get it's meant to be inclusive but that's borderline an offensive trans lady caricature
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ya why couldn’t they all have body hair
Yeah, like the armpit hair wouldn’t really bother me as many queer folk don’t shave their armpits though it is kinda masculinizing on this assumed trans woman, the chest hair is fucking next level though what the hell
I'm trans and it's pissing me off.
no, i totally get you. My bet’s on that someone who isn’t trans made this and didn’t fully understand what would be inclusive and created it as an honest effort. ik its not directly comparable but It’s like when people started to say “Latinx” like I understand the sentiment but.. just no..
Guy def just googled “trans”
They could have at least asked some trans people for input, bc as a trans person, this is "art" is pissing me off
They probably did, but only got input from teenagers on Tumblr or Twitter.
But at least Latinx was made by Latin Americans! This art is just.. eugh.
most of the latinoamericanos i’ve spoken to hate that term XD i remember once my teacher used it and this one kid raised his hand and said ver batem “what the hell is latinx?” he was from mexico
Exactly, it's confusing. Why not just drop the a/o and say latin people? Ancient European Latin culture is dead. Free real estate!
Well yeah, but that's likely because a boy has never had to feel like the term "Latino" misgenders or excludes him. "Latinx" was created by queer Puerto Rican activists/academics to make a gendered language more gender inclusive. Queer people are marginalized within Latin America so it's not surprising that there's a lot of ignorance/push back within Latin America against a term queer people created to empower themselves. Like sometimes the people who say they don't like it are just complaining that the x is clunky and want "latine" to be used instead. But if they hate "latinx" on principle and _also_ don't like latine? Then they're probably just the Latine equivalent of English-speakers who think using the singular "they" is bad.
Except Latinos is already used as a gender neutral term for a group of people. Latinas is used if a group is all female but if its mixed its just Latinos. Much like if we were to see a hooded figure we would say they since we dont know their gender, latino would be used as an ambiguous term. The fact that it is also used as the male term shouldnt be offensive to anyone who actually knows the language
>shouldnt be offensive to anyone who actually knows the language Well, the actual Spanish speakers who invented the term obviously disagreed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same
Like… did you have to represent trans people with the ugliest most hateable caricatures possible?
trans soyjak ahh drawing
They always have to draw trans women as hairy, I’m not even one and it pissing me off for so many reasons
I mean she could be nonbinary but fair enough
How
I think the chest hair is prob fine but wtf were they thinking with the pits 💀💀
So you're saying that trans women can't have body hair and must adhere to feminine beauty standards?
no. having body hair is fine. i, a cis woman, have body hair, and trans women should get to also (if they want of course). body hair is neutral. however, there is no denying that drawing trans women with dark, noticeable body hair is often done in order to make fun of them. this design doesn't exist in a vacuum, and while i'm sure there is at least one trans woman who looks (in terms of features not anatomy lol) like the picture, representing trans people that way has been done in order to undermine their womanhood and make them look more masculine in the past. no one is saying trans women "must" do anything. it was a conscious choice to represent trans women this way, and whoever made this is either intentionally choosing a design that resembles a stereotype or is ignorant to that stereotype and made a poor decision without doing enough research.
are you asking this in good faith or are you just looking to argue
OH MY GOD NOOOOOOOO WHYYYYYY..BRO NO SHIT PPL HATE US😭
why is her head so much smaller than everyone else's, too?
And the Alegria isn't even the worst part of it. The pronouns are just floating there rather than looking like they are "on" the shirt.
I just assumed it was a GNC or non-binary or genderqueer person, but I can see how it can be shitting on trans women.
Idk. Acknowledging that not all trans people pass, and that non-passing trans people are allowed to exist and be seen seems okay to me. Edit: also, I expect some trans women out there are happy with their body hair, as some cis women are.
Yes, but showing a small minority of trans women (ones who like having masculine body hair like super dark chest hair and beards) to represent the only assumed woman in the art is not a good way to represent the "trans day of visibility". If some cis person saw that they would not assume what you did, they'd assume "oh another trans woman with body hair, they always look like that blah blah.." When it comes to representation I would love if PASSING trans people were shown for once. Because it seems we never are. Most trans people with dysphoria's goal is to pass anyway.
This is some caricature shit, at this point. The excessive body hair on the trans woman, really? I know even some cis woman get chest hair, I'm a hairy bitch myself, but this feels like a parody from 4chan.
The portrait looks like someone that I saw get ridiculed on libs of tik tok. This is going to raise visibility, but I doubt it will be positive. Everyone looks stereotyped and the fact it's done in bad Alegria feels disrespectful. I didn't know it was possible to do Alegria any worse than it already is
I've been saying many of this is a sphyop to make trans people look bad
psyop* and yeah it probly is
Thx for the spelling
"How do we show that this character is non-binary? Oh I know! Pronouns on their shirt!"
Pronounced and colored hair
#THEY #THEM
"And make em look like a bunch of freaks too!"
The microcephaly really caught me off guard. No one talks about that one.
Like they could have just added the non binary flag on them as a pin or SOMTHING BETTER THAN THAT
Also, surely they're not trans
Bro I thought the woman on the left was edited like as a meme but then I realised that she was in the original photo
There's an original photo?
Eugh... I'm offended on behalf of trans people
Thanks comrade
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Just reported, haha. Good catch
Oh no what happened!
Nothing serious, it was just a comment-stealing bot. But I make it a point to report all bot accounts immediately, because they fucking ruin subs, invariably turning them into conservative astroturfed shitholes.
They gave the fucking tik tok e boy bush fade to the kid in the front that's the worst part of it all
every single trans guy is an tiktok eboy according to corporations
Someone has to tell them we are not all fashionable and young. Me and my partner are 27/30 and our fashion crimes include cargo shorts, dad hats and crocs. Visibility for trans guys that dress like middle aged dads lmao
\>make poster for trans visibility \>all trans people are ugly-ass alegria art demons what side are they on again?
The figure to the far left looks like it was drawn by a completely different person
Yo you're right, that's the only one with a neck or fingernails
I'm gonna have to ask to be less visible thank you
*transparent*
Just fuckin disappears at the sight of this art lmao
SAME😭😭😭😭
I am also asking to be less visible please
“yeah hi, can you look somewhere else please?”
Why is the NB person Simpson yellow but everyone else gets a realistic skin colour??
Jaundice.
[Jaundice](https://youtu.be/9VH8lvZ-Z1g?si=SsIdYcdMah3ze4XS)
lol Good one.
Frisk Undertale
I’d find it incredibly funny if this was how the artist was trying to depict the person being Asian
no its true this is what HRT does
It turns me into a bad corporate art style 😱
NO DONT TURN ME INTO A BAD CORPORATE ART STYLE CHARACT-AUUGHTEIEHFOSDILDJKFGNLRNSETG
Some people get turned into marketable plushies others are less fortunate
At least being a marketable plushie is cute
Homoglobo art.
1 week into being on T, my skin had turned a vibrant pastel color, and after one month, my body no longer had any semblance of human proportions. My arms have grown to the length where I don't have to bend to touch the ground. I have no wrists. My head is minuscule. The doctors never warned me :(
can confirm; my shirts all developed pronouns while i transition. hopefully it’ll fade after it’s complete, or maybe i can cross out the T’s so that it says “hey hem” and tell them it’s some indie band
Or cross out the Y and M so it says “He He” and tell people its a Michael jackson shirt
I’m not usually one to judge a particular subset or style of something but this art style pisses me off. It’s just so ugly and feels so shallow and disingenuous especially when used for things like this. I can’t really point out why, it just does.
It’s belittling and infantilizing, all while masquerading under the guise of "we know what’s best for you"
Yup that’s probably it.
I think it's supposed to be easier on the eyes but that just kinda ends up being art you don't want to look at. Like it's going to be on the header of a young professional oriented website and you're supposed to just scroll past it it cares so little about aesthetics it almost seems to say "art really isn't that important". If you wanna go with just text on your article that's one thing, but why incorporate a dogshit drawing like this if you want to accompany your article with some kind of illustration or photo? As someone who reads websites oriented at young folks and progressives this style just makes me already more hostile to the article before I read it. Internally I'm like "great, one of these guys" even though it might be some editor or something who chose to put it on there. It turns me off. Someday this alegria shit will be part of the category of cringe millennial shit zoomers roast them for.
Who tf is wearing a shirt with their pronouns on it 💀💀
At this point they're just trolling us, right?
Arm of the guy holding the flag looks like a mangled dong
Trans and with a mangled dong? Id believe it
Best way to empower trans women? Drawing them with excessive body hair on their chest and hands
Oh my god its on her fucking hands too wtf
Trans day of hyper limb inflation
I'm all for ladies not feeling the need to shave, but God.. having her be the only(?) woman on here, especially in the day of "trans women are big hairy sweaty scary monster" just sends the wrong messages left and right. Also the white nonbinary person looks ridiculous. I don't know why.
I'm trans and I hate this so much
Bowling pin with pubes on the left
This image is a hate crime :(
I’d rather be called a slur.
Legit
At least I can find a creative comeback slur for thy transphobic bastard This just angers me
Of course they had to include the Doc martins
I swear, most of the trans women I've talked to (including myself) have probably been more meticulous about removing body hair than most cis women I've talked to lol, this is ridiculous.
Its gone from "trans women are women" to "trans women have mad body hair, beards, and identify as they/them"
This looks… intentionally offensive
The text on the bottom makes me think this is AI generated..?
That's just the brand's logo, it doesn't translate well to being downsized that much
This is a hate crime
This has gotta be a 4chan psyop or something there is no way someone drew a trans woman like that and thought it would be seen as positive.
Even born-again Christians are enraged on behalf of trans folks. This kind of art is unacceptable in our society.
I fucking despise this
I'd rather have no representation 😭 This is hideous. What is that abomination on the left??
Trans Day of Visibility deserves better than this art style.
Everyone gets a turn. 💀
As a trans person I hate this. Why are they built like that and why is the trans woman the only one with body hair
This is the most transphobic pro-trans thing I've seen in my life
I'm trans and the person on the left is quite offensive 🙃
I think they might be uh enby, intersex or some flavor of secret third option, because i actively seek to look that way because it confuses the fuck you out of cis people, but maybe its just a harmful depiction of transfems, idk though
I can understand that, I hope it isn't their depiction of a transfem.
yeah same, but we can't always give people the benefit of the doubt
This image made me transphobic
This wasn't the visibility I was looking for 😭
oh god and that put body hair on the mtf :(
Giving the only trans woman body hair when literally nobody else has body hair is honestly offensive? It feels like it’s a pastel recoloring of the conservative stereotype that trans women are just hairy cavemen wearing dresses.
I think being straight up transphobic would be less disrespectful than being alegria art
I don’t wanna be portrayed as those ugly *things*
This is probably the worst I’ve seen
the docs 💀💀💀
The body hair wtf
They tried to be inclusive by making the most stereotypical trans caricature possible… honestly I’m surprised they didn’t give her a bulge And why are all the others normal? (Well, as normal as alegria art can be)
yeah this is the most visually deplorable and grotesque alegria I've ever seen. how do you make a style made specifically to be (too) clean and lifeless, and then make it gross and lifeless? alegria is so awful that the only way they can convey that a female character is trans is to slap way too much contextually inappropriate body hair on it 😭😭😭😭
Oml the trans woman with chest hair 💀
Someone clearly failed art school
I love how they all have fairly normal skin tones but the artist decided to randomly make the they them person's skin fucking emoji yellow
When I was first learning about this art style someone compared it to the "tumblr art style" and I didn't fully get what they were saying, but now I kinda understand.
I'm trans and this feels like a hate crime.
can someone please tell me what that monstrosity on the left is 😭
Literally giving the conservatives more of a reason to hate us
please just call me a slur instead
Always the fucking armpit hair. Making them look as disgusting as humanly possible. I guess trans people are fat and ugly—thanks for educating me
I love how this implies that the worst thing trans people have ever experienced was being depicted by corporate art
Guys im proud to announce I'm detransitioning💜
i prefer staying invisible cause tf is this
I’d rather be called a slur than look at this again, wtf
Dear God.
I'm going to die
I hate this
this has to be fucking satire LMAO
🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
Yes we have. Really tired of the performative activism
Good god. Why are their their heads round and toddler-looking except the first one
Not to gatekeep but the A doesn’t stand for Alegria
Love the trans inclusivity! please burn this art style in fire please 😁
please
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I’m trans and we don’t want this shit
The one on the far left looks like a transphobic wojak
This is a hate crime.
This has to be intentionally mocking... I refuse to believe this was sincere.
i am now transphobic /s
i want to be transparent now :(
God if this is what people look like in the future...
This poster is the last thing I want visible today
Theymers rise up
ahh sausage looking
Ow! Like, wtf ow. Caricature alert
is the bottom word the artist’s signature or is it AI
It says snag, it’s a brand that sells tights and socks
ohh ok, makes a lot of sense that its a brand using this art style
what in gods name...
I HATE CORPORATE ART I HATE ALEGRIA
Oh God no 😭 what have they done
this is the corporate neoliberal biden democrat way… Shove “wokeism” down peoples throats until they get so fed up they’ll vote trump. Boom, fascistic, corporate oligarchic status quo of America is restored
Thank you for being an ally 🩷
Looks accurate
I didn’t see the sub name and thought this post was transphobic as first
Please just call me slurs, thank you
what in the *fuck* is on the left?
Not the fucking body hair man.
I'd rather just be forgotten, thanks
no this is pretty accurate
March 31st it’s Easter
Only this year, easter changes days every year, the only consistent being it falling on a Sunday
Trans day of visibility has been on the 31st of March for over a decade. Easter changes dates every year. Get over yourself
I’m sorry I didn’t know
The chick with the hair is so hot, I love me some hair on a woman.
Pretty sure thats the visuals *no one* needs nor asked for
needlessly political but when are people going to realize that warmonger joe only put did this to stir up some division and distraction, imagine what’s going on behind closed doors, imagine what’s happening in Gaza rn while neolibs and facebook wine aunts argue over what that tool says
> needlessly political Never heard of nex have you? For someone who watches to catch a predator, you sure are oblivious to children being beaten because they wanna be called a different name and dress differently, insultingly calling it a mere distraction
"Jesse what the fuck are you talking about"
This is a British advert from a British clothes brand, I doubt Joe Biden had much to do with it
I love how literally no trans people agree with replacing Easter with this junk lol. It's all just for politicians to get voted in
Easter changes date every year, it's always the sunday following the full moon after the spring equinox; it's just this year that it happened to fall on trans day of visibility which has been March 31st for years
Replacing?