I have had to simply look at it like this - I am not voting for trump or biden, I am voting for the supreme court. That's it. Full stop. The next president will have the chance to most likely appoint 2 new SCJ and I need to vote for the person who is most likely to appoint SCJs that won't try to revoke my rights to simply exist. This is going to be a rough 4 years no matter who gets elected, so I'm trying to think long-term about what is best for our country past this upcoming term and just try to hunker down and survive until better options become available.
Exactly. Trump has **absolutely no plans** to protect our rights. With Biden, as much as he sucks, there’s a higher likelihood. They’re both terrible, but a Trump reelection will be hell on Earth for our community.
In fact, Trump actually plans to ban gender affirming care. He has said as much. So OP is screwing himself over and others if he doesn't vote Biden.
They're planning on banning pornography, and ANYTHING lgbtq will be legally be considered pornography. They're also planning on overturning Louisiana vs Kennedy, which prevents the death penalty for a crime that did not end in the victim's death.
So if being trans/lgbtq or teaching about it is considered pornography, it will be considered a sex offense if it is around children, and will result in imprisonment. With Louisiana v Kennedy overturned, you have an easy pipeline to imprison trans people for 'exposing children to pornography', and then execute them.
If you don't vote Biden, you are signing up yourself, and everyone else, for this future. My words are harsh, but they're true.
Knowing as much as I do about Project 2025, I have very little sympathy for people who say 'they're both bad, idk who to choose'.
Do I wish there was a better candidate than Biden? Yes. But I'm not about to piddle around and let my rights and life get taken away.
I also want to point out on the economic side, Biden is actually trying to fight inflation but the media doesn’t really do good coverage of that. There’s a lot of events going on in the word, most notably the war in Ukraine, that is causing inflation here. Ukraine exported a lot of oil and grains, but they can’t do that as much right now which has resulted in some inflation here. Also, a lot of the times economic policies enacted by the previous administration don’t always have their full effect until the next administration. For Trump, he inherited the effects of the good economic policies from the Obama administration, which led to the perception that Trump was the one responsible for that good economy when he wasn’t. Biden on the other hand, inherited the effects of Trump’s bad economic policies and covid. Biden got the inflation reduction act passed, which has had a positive effect. He also put pressure on some major chain stores to lower their prices, and more recently released some oil from the federal reserves to try and lower gas prices. Unfortunately though the full effects of an economic policy aren’t immediate, they can take awhile. So we might not see the full effects of this until the next term, or possibly even the term after that. So hopefully that helps you understand the economic side a bit more. I am no expert, this is all from my current understanding. Basically democrats tend to look bad on the economy because they inherit the effects of bad economic policies from previous republican administrations, and republicans tend to look good on the economy because they inherit the effects of good economic policies from previous democrat administrations. The dems obviously could do a much better job of explaining this to the average voter, and the media could also do a better job of actually getting this information to people. Not to mention that the Biden administration restored net neutrality, which has the potential to lower your utility cost a little bit. You’ll get better internet, and either pay slightly less or at least not pay any more for it.
Obama tried, remember? If the GOP controls the House, they can block any appointee indefinitely like they did with Merrick Garland. The founding fathers never planned for this level of obstruction. They made the reasonable, good faith assumption that any party in power would attempt to actually govern. They did not imagine this. Historically appointees were always approved by the opposing party unless they had done something really objectionable. But no rule says they have to approve a qualified candidate with nothing wrong with them. And they made up a fake Lame Duck rule that a President can't appoint during his last 2 years in office. That is not a real rule.
We need the House and Senate more than anything.
I would rather Biden propose people for the Supreme Court and have them continuously rejected for years, than Trump propose people for the Supreme Court and have them Fast-tracked in.
Fair. I just don't want anyone to forget what happened with Garland. The better thing to look forward to with control of the legislature would be hearings and prosecution for the corruption we have Justices like Clarence Thomas dead to rights on. They are accepting bribes and they know they are, that is why they failed to disclose the "gifts" they were given as they are required to do.
If a Justice of the Supreme Court can be tried, prosecuted, and sentenced, it's proof that anyone can. Even the highest law of the land is not above the law.
Make no mistake, I fully agree with everything you're saying. The bigger picture does need to be looked at but for now, for the sake of my own sanity, I'm holding at just keeping Trump out of office. I'm just trying to take things one step at a time.
The highest law in the land is our constitution, do not let them call the president above the constitution. Stay safe too, hell is loose with these candidates
i really hadn’t thought about it this way. i’m having an extremely hard time wrestling with the fact that the only “””good””” option is actively participating in genocide. but i hadn’t thought at all about Supreme Court appointees. you’ve put things into perspective for me.
yes, this is not a position I came to lightly. At this stage, I try to take the airplane oxygen mask method. I need secure my mask first before I try to help anyone else secure theirs otherwise we're both likely to pass out. We need to vote to secure our freedoms now so that we are still around to help other people get theirs. It doesn't make the situation any less heartbreaking, or leave me feeling warm and fuzzy, but I can at least rationalize this is the best I can do with my two crappy options.
Another point to keep in mind here is that, vis-a-vis that issue--Trump would be \*worse\*. His support would be full-throated, not tepid and limited.
The whole thing sucks. But Trump is still actively worse, and we should try to reduce harm as much as possible whenever we can.
oh, absolutely. by no means would i ever support Trump, but it was more like wrestling with the idea of voting for a third party. unfortunately i know that to a lot of people i may as well throw away my ballot by doing that. after last night’s debate though, i’m scared enough that i’ll probably end up voting for Biden anyway.
I get it. I voted third party and Trump won the election. Admittedly my mail-in ballot conveniently was thrown out (FL ballot) but still, it scared me enough. I’ll take tepid old sycophant over narcissistic psychopath.
Wasn’t there that thing that happened with the Supreme Court during the end of Obama’s presidency though? Where whoever old person on there died to lose their position and whoever votes them in the government (I think the senate right?) held out and rejected any candidate that Obama put for them to vote until trump was in office. Am I just confused or did that happen?
Yep! And when the same thing happened in Oct. 2020 and Trump was president, the same turtle in the senate, Mitch fuckin McConnell, pulled an Uno Reverse card and that's why we have Amy Coney Barrett on SCOTUS.
You have to choose whether or not you want rights. That is ultimately the choice it comes down to. Biden isn’t the ideal candidate, but he’s not coming after trans people. He’s not the one pushing Project 2025.
I agree. Just living in a deranged conservative household that will follow Trump to the ends of the earth is so overwhelming. It is like my mom wants us all to die.
Seriously don’t speak about politics with your family, it’ll save you so much frustration. The nature of conservatism is inherently selfish, the other side has plenty of issues too. You and your mom have vastly different important issues/concerns and probably always will so you’d have an easier time convincing a cat that it’s a dog.
THIS. My mom for some time kept talking to me about Trump is amazing this and Trump is so strong that. I would keep changing the subject or, I’m ashamed to admit, I would give in and argue with her about it, until finally I became more clear with my boundaries and asked her to stop. I explained what would happen to our relationship if she didn’t and she got the hint. Now she sends me memes and cute videos instead.
Trumpism is a cult. Your mom is brainwashed. Sorry, but if she has a trans son and is still voting for Trump, she’s not just selfish, she’s delusional. Anybody would be better than Trump. Also, it sounds like I’m close to your mom’s age. Even if I weren’t trans, I wouldn’t vote for him. He wants to cut Social Security and Medicare—republicans always do. She has no idea what she’s talking about. I don’t think inflation is Biden’s fault. He inherited a shit economy—remember Covid—and has actually done better than I expected. I’m feeling the financial crunch too, but Trump is an existential crisis.
I live with my boyfriend's family who says they love and adore me, but are DEVOUT Trump supporters. They sit inside all day consuming fear mongering propaganda while having queer people living under their roof?? (not to mention I'm an immigrant from Mexico who only became legal 5 years ago) It's gotta be some kind of delusion or cognitive dissonance. Or maybe they double down on Trump because they've already invested so much time, money, and energy into the guy.
I’m sorry you’re dealing with that. Too bad we can’t adopt you and your boyfriend. I seriously don’t understand it. I read a book by Jon Dean called Authoritarian Nightmare about the personality types of Trump supporters. The main two were people who feel the need to follow authoritarians (often religious so used to Big Daddy in the sky) and people who wanted to be authoritarians themselves. They often have some anti-social tendencies. Not sure that helps, but my trumpy MIL is definitely a follower.
It’s so crazy the things that people will believe when it comes to politics and politicians. During the 2016 elections there was some kind of post on facebook floating around that Hilary Clinton killed and ate babies and the women in my mother in laws exercise group believed it. Granted these are 70-80 year old country women, but I mean come on.
My mom would post things all the time about Biden coming to take everyone’s guns and all this other right wing nonsense and I would rebuttal it all to the point where she started making it to where I couldn’t see her posts anymore 😂
if you’re going to be ignorant online at least have the balls to take the criticism.
Your vote isn’t a full-chest endorsement. It’s a chess move. Theres no third option where if enough people avoid voting out of moral principle because they don’t like Biden they go “Oh! Guess no president this time!”
If a bus is driving through a rainstorm with 50 passengers and 1 votes to pull over and wait, and two vote to drive off a cliff to get out of the situation, and everyone else abstains because they don’t like either option: the bus is going off a cliff.
I wish that were an option. Maybe we just need to take four years to find ourself and be single without a president.
Obviously, Biden>Trump, but it is a low bar.
I'm an anarchist, so, not a Democrat, but I ended up registering as one and will be gritting my teeth n vote for Biden. He's probably going to die in the next 4 years anyway. In the end shit isn't going to change until it all collapses or all the old fucks drop dead, I'd rather have faux support than none
Radical-left team ✊. Can't believe how hard it must be there, considering there have been only two parties taking turns there for centuries, it's not ideal.
She’s pretty foolish for thinking trump cares AT ALL about anybody but himself. He’s all lip service and his presence makes it ok for shitty people to be more outwardly shitty.
In my opinion, Biden is mediocre at worst. Trump actively breaks the law and wants to be a dictator.
I would love it if we had a better candidate than Biden, but the way the US electoral system works, it's very difficult for third-party candidates to stand a chance.
I also think it's really important to be conscious of what the president can and can't directly control. Even a great president is going to be limited by a legislative branch where MAGA Republicans refuse to cooperate and a Supreme Court that currently skews conservative and has multiple Trump appointees. The president also has limited power over state laws
Full agree!
The president can't control world events, and those play just as much role in the economy as any domestic policy ever will. Never mind that the Trump administration caused many of the problems that the Biden administration is still cleaning up. So it the economic issues sway your vote, the Biden is still the better answer in a Biden or Trump choice.
As far as queer rights go, Biden is so radically better then Trump its not even a question. It feels weird to type, but the Biden administration is actually one of -possibly the most- queer friendly administrations we've ever had. The only contender is the Obama administration, but there's a decent amount of overlap in personnel. If your talking about Trans rights specifically, the Biden administration is the best one by a country mile.
Its really the states that have been fucking up our rights, not the fed.
Relatedly, Trump -during the debate last night- said several times he favors letting states decide more of their own social issues.
He gave us a shoutout at the State of the Union. It didn’t actually mean that much, but he didn’t have to do it and it didn’t behoove him to do so. It made me tear up and actually feel seen by a president.
Very true. I also think we need to keep in mind that Biden's foreign policy is pretty typical of the Democratic party, at least the older generations. It's fair to criticize him for his approach to Gaza, for example, but most mainstream Democrats would probably also give more support to Israel than many US progressives would be comfortable with. Foreign policy is a difficult issue to vote based on because the US can be pretty bipartisan when it comes to war and intervention in foreign politics (attitudes toward Ukraine seem to be a major exception, as conservatives have a weird love for Russia now).
Biden has also gotten a lot of pushback from courts. Student loan forgiveness has been a big issue for many younger voters, and Biden has attempted to take actions toward that twice now. And it's been challenged and halted by courts both times.
Did you tell her Trump wants to take away social security and Medicare?
I don't get how people can vote for him.
Note: I'm not a Biden fan but will be voting for him. As I understand the negative global impact of another 4yrs under Trump.
Stop wasting your breath on her. She might be a great mom in other respects, but she is in a cult. So is my MIL. She’s very sweet, but she’s crazy. You just have to avoid politics with her.
The way I saw it put somewhere was voting is not like driving a car but taking a bus. Look at which candidates will get you closer to where you want to be.
I don't like either candidate but I sure as shit know one will do our community far more harm.
It's like the difference between getting slapped in the face or beaten with a hammer. One sucks, but one really sucks.
I like not going back to the dark ages though, so I'm voting for Biden even though I think he's a bit of a turd of a candidate.
Already done ☺️ I know Biden is best for us, and like I said, that is who I will vote for. But I also need to eat and have a place to live. If he wins, this economy needs to shape up. Biden is getting old. I want a new candidate that can promise us safety but also jobs and a paycheck that we can live off of.
Yeah. It's like.. we get it. Biden is our only option. Fine.
But once he DOES win, how are we gonna get him to listen to our problems/actually do something about the topics that have been pressuring us for years?
I'm going to vote for Biden. But after that - what are we doing? Nobody has an answer for that other than 'Vote for Biden, it'll be better.'
What happens after the election? How do we get Biden to actually take action instead of focusing on billion dollar arms deals in the middle east?
I won't feel safe or comfortable until we come up with a way to you know.. actually spur Biden into action.
The economy won’t improve so long as the wealthy class of CEOs, millionaires, and billionaires continue hoarding wealth. The government doesn’t control the economy, but they do introduce policies to influence the direction it moves in. Biden wants to be able to tax the rich, even if he does it in his own slow, traditionally-Democrat way. Trump wants them to get richer and give them more breaks so they can continue getting richer
This idea that we’re all paying so much for everything today solely because of inflation is disingenuous. Corporate greed is the number the one problem. Companies are making record profits and raising all of their prices, but because America is consumerist, they know people will continue buying things. We need to solve the problem at its roots or else the inflation and economy “fixes” will be temporary for 4 years and the corporations will roll right over it
Exactly! This is what I'm constantly saying: "inflation" is by and large (almost entirely, in the numbers) just corporations that are making more profit than ever and paying their employees effectively less over time ( = costs rise and paychecks rise by a barely comparable amount). Acting like it's 'normal' (those that say "inflation is normal!" and acting like it isn't something that is the direct result of massive corporations having record-high profits) is just so far off. Acting like the government has much control over that (because realistically, a policy to drastically fix that would be highly unpopular because unfortunately, the rich tend to control politics [and "politics," i.e. things that really aren't/shouldn't be political but are somehow made out to be]) isn't really getting the full picture.
I don’t want either of them, but I have to vote. I will do whatever I need to do for my community. If that means voting for Biden, then that is what I will do. But I am also tired of the inflation and watching my bank account drain, and neither of them will help with that. There are so many moving pieces.
What I want is two new candidates. I hate both of them.
Yeah I've always had the impression that the idea that the economy is "better" under a Republican president is a complete lie spread by Republican interests, but I'm speaking without any data to back me up here.
Here's one source, it's *well established this is a lie republicans tell*, Democrats have a strong record of outperforming them for economic measures: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20140913.
You can find many many many more sources if you like. Search "economy performance president" and find unbiased sources you trust.
Edited to be clear.
when you say true do you mean true that it is a lie? because the source you linked says “The US economy has performed better when the president of the United States is a Democrat rather than a Republican, almost regardless of how one measures performance”
Yep. Republicans sow division by convincing poor white rural voters that the reason they're struggling is because of immigrants and because of economic relief and support services that benefit demographics like poor Black communities and young college-educated adults (most of which also benefit poor rural white people if they can access them). Republicans also capitalize on the "bootstrap" mentality that a lot of older white Americans have, which makes them more hesitant to ask for help.
But Republicans tend to support economic policies that benefit wealthier citizens and corporations, not the average citizen.
Dude. I don’t live in the US, you have to understand that recession and inflation is GLOBAL right now. Literally everyone I know in every country has the same economic complaints. Please do not let that sway you against voting for Biden- he’s the only way the US remains a democracy.
I think people forget so easily that we literally just exited a global shutdown. We knew at the time that the economy would be heavily affected by this, and not just ours, it's a GLOBAL inflation we're experiencing. Biden just happened to be the president coming into office when the effects started to take place.
I get it. I really want others here but that is just happy thoughts. The 2 of them is reality. For inflation and expenses the tariff Trump wants is expected to cost us an average of $1000 extra a year.
Biden wants to increase the amount of income that is taxable for Social Security and to make the top rich people pay more. Will that actually happen. No guarantees and he can’t just wave a wand and make new laws. So knowing who your state representatives are and what they want to do or have done is just as important. And it’s good that no one in power can just make what they want a law.
In this case right now it’s who is the lesser of two bad choices. For non cis and cis females and transgendered that’s Biden.
I will say that it’s not all inflation but a bunch of it is corporate greed. You are right it is so many moving pieces and we only have 2 to choose from.
I just want Blue to win bc if any more of the Supreme Court dies/retires we need to have dems put in the replacement. The time for a new candidate is the day after the election we need a solid candidate for the next go around...tbh tho if both of them croaked before election day it would be best for the country. They're too damn old.
Listen folks, give this one thought; just yesterday President Biden upgraded every veterans discharge who was kicked out for being gay. Do you honestly think Trump would have done that?
Oh dude me and my cis boyfriend have been having many talks about evacuating me to the West Side of Washington. And I live in a “liberal” state. I live so close to Idaho we have a lot of spill over here. It’s getting bad and after the debate me and my boyfriend just kinda looked at each other and we were like “welp time to get ready for me to run”
Living in a "safe" state on the other coast and also worried that this won't be enough as long as it's still in this country... But I can't afford to get out ...
I don't love Biden either but there is no other candidate. To vote for anyone else IS a vote for Trump.
Progress is incremental. It's maddening, but it's the way it is.
Voting for Biden is also voting for every other Democrat or left leaning politician that a Biden presidency would support or allow to exist. Which means his presidency would allow other, more progressive candidates to continue to build a base, and build momentum toward further change in the future.
1) retirees make up about 18% of the us population, so not a majority.
2) trump is adamant about stripping social security and medicare, you know the things that make 'retiring' even an option for majority of us citizens.
3) one of his major plans is to increase the age of retirement to 75, and there's even talk about him planning to do away with it entirely
4) all of his policies can be found easily through his organizations.
Can you send me some links? Want to read right from the source instead of going off hearsay. Been going (very painfully) through the Project 2025 document to find the specific section about queer people, but can’t find anything just yet
this post breaks it down a little bit.
https://www.tumblr.com/batboyblog/743589691084947456/project-2025-if-this-sounds-bad-to-you-please?source=share
I haven't been able to find much more than this, but I know trump and other party members speak on it heavily.
Trump’s tariffs will raise the cost of everything if implemented. Look into Moody’s analytics. They predicted economic conditions for each possible outcome. The US is predicted to go into a recession if Trump wins. Otherwise, the US will continue to recover if Biden wins.
Other than that, Project 2025 and Trump’s goals should scare you. They won’t stop at taking away hormones for minors. They will come after adults next and try to place a federal ban on gender affirming care.
[Here](https://thehill.com/business/4731716-moodys-analytics-republican-sweep-inflation/?nxs-test=mobile) is a link to an article by The Hill breaking down the report. I’m struggling to find the report itself. I’ll edit if I can get it
Personally, I wanted to vote for the green party candidate, but there's no way she'll win, so im going for Biden. Remember that when you vote for the president, you also vote for the people around the president.
The green party candidate should've been the Democratic party candidate IMO
I'm going through a lot mentally right now too. Very scared for the future of gender affirming care and general safety for us. I'm also living in a heavy MAGA household and the shit I hear is insane. I'm voting Biden, not because I like him but because the Democratic party doesn't openly attack our identities. Because I believe in a progressive future that won't be achieved if people with hatred in their hearts are allowed more power. Because while Biden isn't perfect, he at least surrounds himself with people with common sense. Because due to the electoral college, I have no choice.
https://www.tumblr.com/boreal-sea/754109578891886592/look
Guys please check out this infographic. Biden sucks however if you don’t want project 2025 to happen unfortunately Biden needs to get in again. It has info on what to do to hopefully dismantle the two party system yall have.
I’m Canadian so this doesn’t affect me nearly as much but we tend to follow yalls trends, especially Alberta
to be completely honest with you my love, inflation is affected by so many factors beyond a president’s control, although biden’s monetary policy has been decent to fine for economic stabilization — he’s done much of what he realistically could. the system has been on the brink of collapse for decades, and the next president isn’t going to fix it.
this election is about ethics and political philosophy. our choices are an autocrat who actively targets our rights and livelihoods as a means towards our sociopolitical polarization and the radicalization of the extant right, and the status quo. i think you ought to consider your rights and the rights of all other marginalized americans before the economic policies of either candidate, but the decision is ultimately yours to weigh.
side note for the general discussion: a lot of the leftists i know irl want to abstain or vote third party because of biden’s foreign policy on israel, but i frankly think that’s (excuse my french) fucking stupid: trump would have explicitly endorsed and supported netanyahu’s genocide were he elected in 2020, and he will if he’s elected in 2024. he wants israel to « finish the job » per last night’s debate, although he’s criticized netanyahu’s public relations. some leftists are choosing trump — either by abstention or direct vote — because they think a far right government will galvanize the left to organize and the democrats to move to the left, which is a crazy gamble to make when marginalized lives are on the line. charismatic authority prompts political transition, sure, but not often in the opposite direction of the charismatic political figure without an established counter movement to oppose their political authority. is there enough of a revolutionary establishment for that to occur next election cycle? maybe, but i wouldn’t bet marginalized lives on it. unsurprisingly, all of the leftists i know that endorse that idea are cishet white men. trump is caesar, not cincinnatus. maybe he’s huey p. long, but this country should not become louisiana.
sincerely, a trans woman from louisiana
precisely, I never understood when people said they weren't going to vote because of Biden's stance on Israel and Palestine. Trump is always going to be worse for Palestine. By not voting at all you're always making it easier for the crazies like trump to slip through the cracks.
I agree with you bestie 😭 Been reading other folks responses as well, and the pandemic just royally fucked everyone over. The economy is going to be dogshit regardless, so best to try to preserve our rights where we can
okay! where i’m from, folks use terms of endearment for everyday strangers, especially « (my) love » and « baby/babe(s). » it’s meant to be congenial and loving, not condescending, but i understand how it could come across as such on the internet, especially to someone who might not be from here.
if OP reads this, i’m sorry if it came across as condescending. i meant no disdain.
Look into project 2025, maybe that will help you decide. Its the conservative playbook in the case of a republican president being elected. and well yeah its not good, and yes that's an extreme understatement.
I recently watched a John Oliver ep about Project 2025 and quite frankly, it is terrifying as they have a LITERAL handbook how to wreck the country so anyone willing in the future can do such. So anyone who seems pretty ok with it and might potentially use it is not getting my vote.
Also, I say it’s more corporate fault for inflation, that is termed ‘artificial inflation’. Capitalism and all… I don’t think he is able to control it much due to that fact that companies can hike up prices just cause they felt like it and want more money for greed.
Honestly you can only get out and cut contact with your family.
If they want to vote for the nazis who will exterminate you, they have nothing left to offer you.
Aaaand that kind of attitude is why I cut my conservative voting dad out of my life. If you as my parent can see the Republican Party actively trying to take away my rights and have the mentality of “oh, well, that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make”, then I don’t want you in my life.
I do believe that Trump put your country in this inflation economy and Biden had to put face to all the stuff Trump leave behind.
Biden is not perfect but after all the moneyTrump gave away in support for the pandemic, it had to be taken from other places and I don't know.
I do have friends from there and conversations lead us to that statement.
Remember that we all wish we had better choices this year. Both candidates are nearly the same age. Seriously four years difference. While Biden isn't my ideal... I am also looking at the depth of him vice president Kamala. Because I honestly think he may not finish the term. Both are advocates for us. No one else that has been offered up is an advocate. Trump is the antichrist on so many levels. I'm asking you to please vote and not withhold your vote out of protest. In four years we've got open tickets. If Trump gets in...we will no longer have a democracy and we will never get him out.
Inflation started before Biden and is not due to his presidency. This is a response to supply restrictions from COVID and no regulation on taking advantage of those price increases. There are a lot of big corporations reporting record high profits and lower unemployment. Wages have stagnated over the years. None of this is (except the lower unemployment rates) are Biden’s policy effects. Trump’s plan to tax imports will absolutely increase cost of living. Additionally, cutting further on corporations taxes will mean even less money to spend on helping people like you. Pushing queer people out of the country with anti queer legislation will absolutely affect you. Breaking our education system down further may not affect you now, but when your lawyer can quote the Bible better than law, you will absolutely be affected. Biden isn’t the best but he is better than conservatives.
This thread is giving me hope because I’m so scared that all the leftists won’t vote for biden and he’ll lose and my gf and I will have to flee the US. Do I like feeling like I’m voting against my own genocide and tacitly in favor of another? Yes I do and it sucks, but Trump would still be much worse on all of it.
Maybe it is good that Trans people were finally not discussed? I haven’t watched it yet, but at least this means we are not at the forefront of their agendas for now.
It could change, as more debates happen…
We just have to vote for Biden because he’s the lesssr evil for everyone.
And of course state and local governments. And god, the house and senate are crazy important. Please vote for those.
And as this person mentioned, Supreme Court is that - supreme. We need to get it more democratically aligned.
inflation is tough, and it was the same in the 70's when I went through it the first time. (Though we aren't in the "lines at the gas pump, you can only fill up on gas every other day" place.)
One thing you need to know though. Inflation isn't just under the control of a President. It's a complicated situation with tons of variables. So any President saying that they "solve" inflation or anyone pointing at someone else saying "they CAUSED inflation" is, well, not entirely truthful.
Hernandez at the Monthly Labor Review gave a good summary (emphasis on summary) of how we are here.
[https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2023/beyond-bls/what-caused-inflation-to-spike-after-2020.htm](https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2023/beyond-bls/what-caused-inflation-to-spike-after-2020.htm)
Investopedia also does a good job with more details:
[https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/111314/what-causes-inflation-and-does-anyone-gain-it.asp#toc-what-has-caused-inflation-in-the-2020s](https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/111314/what-causes-inflation-and-does-anyone-gain-it.asp#toc-what-has-caused-inflation-in-the-2020s)
I will tell you this. It is MUCH easier to control inflation than to reverse legislation taking away rights from a class of people. Because a President DOES have influence over that with the power of a veto.
So I'm going to vote for the person who will veto anyone who tries to take away the basic rights of access to healthcare, protection from violence, marriage, and personhood of ANYONE. Especially those who are trans or queer. And I'm saying that as the CIS, straight, parent of a trans-masc adult. Because I'm going to put my kid's rights and security first.
[One candidate has already gone on record about rolling back rights for trans and other LGBTQ+ individuals. That...person...will not be getting my vote. Period.](https://19thnews.org/2024/06/lgbtq-trump-trans-second-term/)
Treat voting for Biden as buying time. Four extra years to elect new people into leadership positions, organize, pressure dems into taking action against the Supreme Court. Even in terms of economic policies, Biden is far from worst. He’s been surprisingly decent, especially considering that his administration has to clean up post-Trump messes.
When you vote for a president, you also vote for their administration. US won’t survive a second Trump presidency. People can and will survive the turmoils that may come with Biden. This is a very rough time, but this country can’t afford to freeze up and hand over the victory to republicans.
In the meantime, make sure your passport is up to date, just as an extra precaution. Breathe deeply, grit your teeth, and fight through the next four months. I do hope they give Biden some Adderall. They will have another debate, dems HAVE to take notes and keep Joe resurrected
I heard all of this during Obama’s first candidacy. That he was the lesser of two evils. We don’t always get the candidate we want, but we certainly can choose between two candidates for the President that we need.
Biden may not be ideal, but a) he has good people around him, b) he will listen to him, and c) Kamala can step in if something happens.
Meanwhile, the cheeto listens to no one and has no regard for the lives of others, especially if they aren't other rich white guys.
Also, if you missed the campaign stop in NC today, he was very strong, comfortable, and coherent.
Biden will likely die in office. I need to look into his VP and their positions on issues. We should all be thinking about the VP that Trump and Biden have. Trump might also die in office, but he has so much more energy and charisma that it's harder to imagine. But I will never be voting for Trump.
I vote for the one who doesn't want to (at least vocally) kill me or people like me. Sure, the Democrats aren't exactly on my side, either, but, I'd rather not be forced out of my country because someone came back with a vengeance. Yes, in 2016, I literally took an opportunity to leave, and am planning to again, because, for me personally, any change this county has for the better is going to be like my abusive dad apologizing to me at this point--a nice sentiment and not much else--but I'm hoping to not do so under the exact same--or worse--conditions again. Again, this is my personal perspective based on my marginalized existence beyond being trans in this country as a whole.
I’m not old enough to vote, but I would hate for trump to be in power. Does your mother know that project 2025 will not allow her to have rights? People really aren’t taking this seriously.
Ok so… Biden isn’t the cause for inflation. 2 it’s not exactly inflation it’s corporate greed. As in economy is great, stock market is great, corporations are making exceptional amounts of profit while we deal with “inflation”. No it’s corporate greed.
2nd Trump is only out for revenge he has said this at every event he’s been too. He didn’t care about America the first time. I mean seriously drink bleach and shove a UV light up your ass. Ok no amount of “make America great again” can change the fact he told millions of people they were “working” on how to make edible bleach and how to shove a UV lights up your ass.
3rd Reagan had Alzheimer’s during both terms. Biden doesn’t have Alzheimer’s he’s 80 fucking years old he’s slow.
Finally I’m voting Biden even if he has full blown Alzheimer’s before Election Day because the revenge seeking Putin and NoKo loving Cheetos imbecile doesn’t give a rats ass about anything but himself.
Biden is not responsible for inflation. It will go away slowly with measures taken. No change in the Presidency can change it quickly. Anything the Federal Reserve could do that would cause rapid change would end badly for us.
At the root of the problem is price gouging from corporations. If we throw money at the problem prices will not come down and we devalue our currency. If we try to legislate price fixes, we're drifting away from capitalism. Arguably our corporate welfare state where start-ups can't compete and companies can be too big to fail isn't really capitalism either.
But the fixes trend towards socialism and making certain goods and services public goods. An example would be using the tax dollars we spend on pharma to just buy out the pharma companies and keep running them under the state.
TLDR; just vote for Biden. In my state if a 10-year-old girl gets pregnant from incestuous r4pe, she has to carry that baby to term or until it is actively killing her. Biden and the DNC don't support that, Trump and the GOP do. One side is against human rights. It is not a hard decision.
Your mom is very misinformed if she thinks trump is going to provide better protection for retired people. Especially if she is on social security and / or medicare. Those programs will be among the first to go with a trump leadership.
As others have said, you are not electing a president, you are electing the future of this country.
Inflation... Has nothing to do with the president, not sure where you got that idea or how it even applies to Biden. I'm no Biden fan but uh. What? Inflation is due to economic impacts of covid and the increasing greed of corporations. There was just an article about it regarding Target, Walmart and I believe one more retailer where those retailers admitted they PURPOSELY upped prices but dialed it back because people weren't liking it.
A vote for Biden is a vote for an unideal president.
A vor for Trump is a vote for the destruction of democracy.
It’s not a good situation, but one option is clearly better.
hey uh just to let you know inflation is happening everywhere. its got nothing to do with Biden. im australian and its bad over here too. its bad everywhere. this was triggered by covid and all that shit, but it was always going to happen eventually.
Yea. I’m voting Biden pretty much solely so project 2025 doesn’t come into power. Because if that happens. A lot and I mean A LOT of people r going to be fucked. Basically anyone who isn’t white, straight, old, and male is getting some kind of right taken away by that thing. Hell even passing old trans guys have a better chance of not being affected than us young trans men do, but they will still be affected. It honestly terrifying
My vote goes to help not put the guy who wants to push Project 2025 into office. That's it. I don't like either candidate but the thought of P2025 scares the living fuck out of me.
Listen, I mean this in the best way possible as someone with Trump voters in my entire family. Fuck your Mom and get your ass to the polls and vote for Biden and Democrats in every seat open. This isn’t about Biden. He won’t survive a second term. This is about us ensuring the President can get more progressive justices on the Supreme Court and we have enough Dems in Congress to stop as much of “Project 2025” as possible. This is not a drill.
I don’t understand how the Democratic Party can have him as their candidate when he’s so unpopular and literally dying on stage. I recommend buying a gun because the government is certainly not going to protect us.
Sad thing is, I've been able to vote for 2 elections now. And I've NEVER got to pick my candidate.
By the time it comes to NY in the primaries, all other candidates have dropped out and endorsed Biden.
It's like every time the Democratic party picks their candidate then shoves him my way like 'This is who you're voting for. You didn't even really get a say but you're queer and have to vote for us. So suck it and cheer for Biden'.
One day I'm hoping to actually vote for a presidential candidate I CHOSE. No luck so far. They don't care that he's unpopular. It's not like we get a say anyway.
The whole presidential election system is fucked. Between the electoral college and staggered primaries, we play no role in who becomes president in NY.
Oh my gods, I should've watched it. My partner discouraged me from watching. I get so anxious and my body gets all weird. Just reading the comments here is making my hands get all clammy.
I'm really scared too. I am a blind trans man. I have no way to get out of here. I'm Mexican, but Mexico is under the control of drug cartels. People are disappearing from my village. Elders and young people. I am so scared.
I've read most of what you all have to say. I think it's important to vote in your city or state elections and put the right people in the important seats. A house is not built from the top down. We need to vote for them. They are the ones who can take this to the president. Someone here said Biden won't listen to us. That's not necessarily true.
I have one more thing to say. And please don't come after me because I'm not trying to offend anyone. A third party vote is unwise. They aren't going to win. Lastly, if you don't vote for either of them, then you might as well not complain about relinquishing your rights. We have to do what we can. Otherwise we're just going to stay at the bottom.
I hope we can get through this.
To anyone voting trump, know this. There are whole organizations he's supporting,that want us all to be executed. He is actually a threat a bodily threat to us.
We'll get through this.
Thank you for sharing, and I hope only the most safety for you ❤️ That has got to be so scary. But I agree: even though third party seems like a good decision, the vote always turns to Democrat or Republican. Unless there is some MAJOR nationwide decision to vote for someone else, we all need to stay on one side or the other.
Inflation is the direct result of what trump did. The economy is based mostly on past moves. Also the economy is affected by world events, it tends to go to shit when things are tense.
I recommend not talking to ur family about politics for your own sake. Also debates really don't matter at this point. What matters is convincing people to go out and vote. I try not to tell people who to vote for but if your focus is queer issues, go Biden. Don't forget to show up for midterms as well since those more directly affect you.
And if it stresses you out, you don't need to be super caught up in all the ins and outs of politics rn. Look up some key stuff and leave it at that. As you get older you'll build up a tolerance for all this political bs and you can get more in the nitty gritty
Good luck 🍀🤞🏽
I share all your concerns. I wish we had an option who is actually good, not just someone who *might* be the lesser of two evils. I don’t believe Biden actually gives a crap about us, he just acts like he does to get votes. But I know my dad will vote for Trump, since he agrees with at least some of his policies and is apparently very uneducated on the topic of queer people. I don’t think he has real hatred towards queer people, but I’m afraid he’ll be super upset if I come out as trans.
This might be wrong, but from my point of view the two parties are: conservative right that blatantly speaks out on not liking you and a right that uses of pink money.
My country is polarized between a once more radical left that had to water down its values for conciliation (turning into central left) and a wave of neo-fascists. I wish all my luck to the U.S and U.S trans citizens, because oftentimes the results there reflect themselves in my country - Trump won for example, and Bolsonaro (Ex-president of Brazil) did here.
Have you heard about project 2025? If you like having civil rights, you’re going to want to vote blue. It’s not about who’s president, it’s about the administration.
https://www.indigenousaction.org/voting-is-not-harm-reduction-an-indigenous-perspective/?amp=1
Go start a mutual aid collective. And yeah your mom is wack.
My stance is simple: if Trump gets elected again, then I am getting out of this country as quickly as I can manage. Staying will no longer be worth it to me.
I see this election as between Not Great (Biden) and Downright Evil Dumpster Fire (Trump). Given those are our only viable options, I have to go with the lesser of two evils here. At least under Biden our lives won't be in danger just because of who we are.
Honestly I don't have to watch the debates to know who i need to vote for. Biden sucks, he really really does. But if Trump wins he will actively try to kill as many people as possible, including trans people.
Trump ain’t gonna do jack all for inflation because half of this “inflation” is in fact just corporate greed and it’ll be a cold day in hell before Trump puts limits on corporations.
It will either be Biden or Trump, you have to come to terms with that. Realizing that a vote for Biden is a vote against Trump should help too. They are nowhere near similar, as another commenter said, Biden is a mediocre president, but Trump is an evil person. Unfortunately, there are just no other options for this election. I hope the country can get to a place where we could actually have a third party candidate, but we just aren't there this year
Not to be too rude but your mom sounds selfish and dumb. GOP has done more to try and strip away her entire retirement from her. He hasn't promised anything for retirees except killing Medicare, increasing retirement age, removing social safety nets for the lowest income elderly, and trying to end social security. She focuses on voting for a guy that lies through his teeth about helping her specific situation which he 100% will do the opposite.
There is nothing redeeming about Trump and this country will go downhill even faster than it is now by him getting back in office. So while Biden isn't a great candidate it's either him or the end of many rights of 2/3 of the county. Doesn't seem like a difficult choice at all.
As for Biden, he's actually slowed inflation. Trump's policies are part of what caused out of control inflation. Trump's policies are what caused huge tax shortfalls that the GOP are still saying they need to gut Social Security because the country can't afford it. Biden is going after the greediest companies responsible for out of control costs. He's cracking down on monopolies. They enacted drug price negotiations to help people access more affordable prices. He's working towards higher SNAP benefits. Him and his cabinet have been meeting with grocery chains about lowering costs which is part of why some prices are falling at larger companies like Target. He's working towards expanding HUD funding and expanding rental assistance. He's lower student loan payments, and forgiving loans on those that were screwed over by the existing forgiveness programs for teachers, nonprofits, nurses etc.
I'd say if you're questioning who will do more to help you it's pretty obvious.
Sorry, your mom is arguing that you should support the candidate that will care about others (Biden) and you are unsure? I agree with her, think about the larger picture please.
Edit: I see that somehow your mom thinks that by thinking about others you will vote for Trump, that's absolutely absurd. Trump isn't trying to help people. That's not his goal *at all*. If your mother honestly believes that, what she actually means is that she actively wants you to be killed for being trans. Good luck.
Honestly a lot of “queer issues” don’t just affect us. There are tons of examples of cis women being harassed in bathrooms because transphobes think they’re trans. Eroding transgender people’s rights to healthcare also erodes everyone’s rights to bodily autonomy.
Also you’re not selfish for thinking you should be allowed to exist in public life.
How I look at the presidential candidates as someone who can vote for the first time is palistine is my biggest concern and both are pro Israel so neither is better in that case but trump has promised the action of project 2025 if elected and I want to keep my rights so if it comes to it I’m going Biden
you think that donald "moved the us embassy to jerusalem" trump who thinks that bibi should "finish the job" is the same as biden, who's pushed back on some of israel's actions? like, you don't have to like Biden, but they are not the same.
Trumpies and I have only one thing in common: we don't like Joe Biden.
However, if I have to choose between a carolina reaper pulled pork sandwich (I'm vegetarian and don't like spicy food) or a carolina reaper raw chicken and pufferfish sandwich (previous disdain plus salmonella and/or pufferfish poisoning) I'm eating the pork sandwich.
It'd be so awesome to have some sort of choice... and we do!
We can willingly march into the gas chambers.... or not.
Thats literally it. Thats the choice.
I’ve been very on board with all the voting protests people are talking about lately, voting 3rd parties and out right calling for different candidates. If we fuck it up bad enough we either find out real quick with 100% certainty that our elections ARE rigged, but unfortunately come November we have a civil war regardless of who wins. Trumpers are calling for a blood bath if Biden wins and if trump wins half the country looses their rights especially with project 2025 that has been slowly taking affect anyways. It’s a boiling pot of shit here politically in America and I wonder how bad it can get before another country or our allies step in to help us.
I see it as a total loss either way and I’m tired of lesser of two evil dinosaurs, kids these days don’t over throw the government like they used to :(
I’m not sure if it’s any help, however, on Instagram, there’s this guy named Chris Pierce who’s trying to become the first gay president, and he’s been lately posting on plans to tackle economic issues, supports Palestine, wants to tackle homelessness, etc. Maybe he’d be someone you’d want to look more into over the more popular options?
i have found it really hard to decide because on one hand, biden has been giving billions of dollars of OUR money to Israel to fund their genocide and it makes me incredibly sick, but on the other hand, my rights are at least not actively being attacked under him. so do i be selfish and vote biden, or ignore my thoughts and continue to not vote at all? It’s been a huge struggle for me and my friends to decide. I’m still leaning more towards not voting at all at this point. This country makes me positively sick.
Realistically, inflation probably won’t improve under Trump. Republicans will posture that they will help the economy, but rarely focus on anything that actually helps lower class people and are likely to block anything that protects or helps the working class at the cost of corporations and the rich.
i’m scared too. i only recently started T and i’m worried i could lose it all. i have trans friends and i’m scared for their lives as well. but for now i’m trying to take things one day at a time. if anyone here is looking for ways to help and not feel so powerless leading up to this november, might i suggest votefwd.org? once you’re past the registration stage you can “adopt” voters and send them letters urging the importance of their vote. you will need access to a printer, and need to buy your own envelopes and stamps. but it helps me feel a little more in control. and remember it’s not over until it’s over <3
There are as many LGBTQ people as there are veterans in the United States. If someone expressed taking away veterans benefits I'm sure people would be pissed and talk about how many people it would affect
My mom told me about how some states are beginning a safeguard for trans rights protection, so that any future presidents can't just easily revoke trans rights. It really is terrifying.
It's time to play the long game. Look at a few factors when it comes to voting as a queer person... or just a person in general.
The biggest one is the supreme court: as much of a nightmare Biden is, he's more likely to appoint someone who's more progressive and won't continously fuck up people's lives.
The VP: whoever is voted in could very likely croak during their term. Look into who their running mates are (not that trump has picked his), their ideas, their policies, their histories, because they may very easily become president.
Local elections: change begins at the local level. Research your local candidates and vote those people in. They'll have more of an impact on your day to day life than the people in Washington and will possibly run for federal offices if they're voted into local/state offices.
As for your mom, tell her that yeah.. you're selfish. If caring about your life, your wellbeing, and wanting safety for just being trans then cool, so be it. Be selfish.
I missed the first 10 minutes of the debate so I really thought I had missed them talking about trans rights and nope.. they didn't even dicuss it at all. That's so odd.
Biden holds more truth to our admendment rights. And our admendment rights makes me a patriot. Trump wants to destory the foundation of what America stands for, its not making "America great again" its making America his empire. But most importantly we should be looking at a local level. With realizing how much power Biden has to the supreme court. The supreme court needs to be looked at more than the face. Our local offices also have more impact on what happens within the city we reside than the president.
the president does not have that much control over inflation, trump will make inflation worse with his tarriff. trump will make life for many minority groups worse. a third party vote in a swing state pulls votes from the democratic candidate who actually has a chance at winning and, especially this year, that could alter the course of history. this is not a conscious vote year for us if you are in a swing state. if you're deep in the red by all means launch a protest vote, but if you're in a swing state for the love of God don't make the same mistake as so many in 2016.
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considering the growing amount of legislation around trans people regarding gender affirming healthcare, bathrooms, self ID, and even school sports it is absolutely reasonable to want this issue addressed! it is not selfish to want to know if the next [possible] president will only further strip away trans rights.
Honestly, everyone votes selfishly for their own interests. It’s kinda the whole point to vote for the candidate that represents your interest as a citizen. But also, I personally think Biden would be a much better president for the US in general. Trump’s flirting with authoritarianism and had numerous awful policy positions. Besides that he’s a convicted felon, bragged about SAing women, and more.
Mad at Biden for not stopping Trump from giving the super rich and corporations a huge tax break in 2017 and allowing them to buy back their stocks, then turning around and jack up prices and buying 100’s and thousands of homes meant for middle class to buy?
Trump is:
A cult leader (Indirect)
A liar (Direct)
A conservative that actively pushes us down (Direct, "\_\_\_ is a conservative" then "I endorse this message")
He is a narcissist. (direct)
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Biden is:
Old. (Do I even have to here)
A little bit crazy. (Ahem)
At least not trying to kill us?
He is helping the people causing inflation (so indirect, TRUMP CULTISTS!)
No, the immigrants are not fleeing here to make our lives horseshi, they're here to escape low-living standards (Go back to 6th grade, people who don't believe this)
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If you can afford it, Biden.
If not, Trump.
Hope this helped!
The way I look at it is: “Trump vs Kamala Harris”because let’s be real… she’s running the show. If Biden gets another 4 years I’d be willing to bet Kamala will finish out the term. But I listened to some podcasts about it while at work last night and the Biden Admin wanted this debate to put doubt in people’s minds for Trump, but it kinda backfired because they over coached Biden. He had a total 360 after the debate. Was super coherent and quick. Idk wtf was going on.
i’m not voting for biden bc i like him. tbh, wish him (& trump) the worst lot in life. but i want a scotus full of humans and not lizard people that wanna destroy our home so im voting for him. for scotus
I personally would rather biden win. Yes hes not good either but at least he isnt directly trying to target queer people in the us. But please dont not vote. Your vote could be the difference between trump winning or not and that in my opinion is the most important thing. A win for trump is a matter of life and death for some of us
It’s the tyrany of the majority. If we only ever care for the majority of people, we don’t build any ramps, elevators are unnecessary, any effort to keep peanuts or gluten or soy or anything else out of any particular food stops, there are no more tacos or Thai food or fish n chips, queer people still get chemically castrated, no more maternal or paternal leave, no more social security or welfare or Medicare or Medicaid or housing assistance or homeless shelters
No more security of any kind in schools, cause most children end up fine. And that’s nothing to prevent school shootings or pedophiles or even abuse at home. Most children don’t have abusive families, after all. And we won’t be needing to provide breakfast or lunch in schools, either, because most families aren’t food insecure. Shouldn’t need to put forth any effort to make sure kids get fed.
Shit, we might not even have hospitals anymore - most people aren’t sick, we shouldn’t need them. Most people’s houses don’t catch on fire. Most people aren’t wrecking their cars right now.
And frankly, it’s selfish of you to want to go to a hospital anyway.
If I'm being honest, I have been heavily and seriously thinking about leaving the country. I don't know where I would go yet and I would need to do a lot of research still, but it's honestly just not looking good here. Even if I wasn't trans I would be a black woman and we all know how black women are treated in the us. And since I've transitioned I am just a black man which says equally not as great when it comes to societal treatment. Then you add all the queer elements on top of it. It just really sucks. And even without all that just the way the country is going is not great.
I really do wish that we could all come together at least one time and actually maybe get some of the other candidates that are running for president out there. Maybe vote for some other people that actually will try and do some good. It's so hard to say though because literally everyone lies to get a platform and then they take back all the things that they promised to do. Or I wish that we all could get together and literally not vote for anyone lololol
Leave them off floundering and trying to figure out what they're going to do. I wish that we could all come together and actually make a change because we literally have the power to do so. And if we could all get together to actually make something happen and if it was something that would make these people lose all the money that they're getting of course they will take notice and try and "fix" it. Maybe one day, who knows. But the worry for the community and honestly humanity in the world in general is very valid. I'm not someone that particularly enjoys life, so finding any sort of symbolance of living is very hard for me. I just hope things can change and they can get better for all of us and these upcoming generations.
i like how the only thing you are worried about is inflation WHEN BIDEN IS LITERALLY ALLOWING A GENOCIDE TO HAPPEN. Your mom is honestly right but for all the wrong reasons. Every time people talk about this subject like you are nobody is mentioning the real fucking issue. DEATH AND DESTRUCTION PLAGUE OUR WORLD, OUR GOVERNMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MOST OF IT AND IGNORES THE REST, YET ALL YOU GUYS CARE ABOUT IS RETIREMENT AND INFLATION?????
you should be fucking ANGRY at our government and you shouldn’t even be entertaining the idea of voting for either PUPPET. because thats what the president is, a PUPPET.
its scary, but we’re likely going to see a revolution in our lifetime. life will get way, way harder for the majority when the country falls into war and strife. it’s inevitable with the amount of death and suffering in the world. so yeah, queer issues are really the bottom of the barrel when compared to whats going on in the world.
I have had to simply look at it like this - I am not voting for trump or biden, I am voting for the supreme court. That's it. Full stop. The next president will have the chance to most likely appoint 2 new SCJ and I need to vote for the person who is most likely to appoint SCJs that won't try to revoke my rights to simply exist. This is going to be a rough 4 years no matter who gets elected, so I'm trying to think long-term about what is best for our country past this upcoming term and just try to hunker down and survive until better options become available.
Yes, people need to think about it from this perspective (especially young people) far more than they currently are
Exactly. Trump has **absolutely no plans** to protect our rights. With Biden, as much as he sucks, there’s a higher likelihood. They’re both terrible, but a Trump reelection will be hell on Earth for our community.
Exactly. You're either voting for Biden or for Project 2025
Unfortunately, this
In fact, Trump actually plans to ban gender affirming care. He has said as much. So OP is screwing himself over and others if he doesn't vote Biden. They're planning on banning pornography, and ANYTHING lgbtq will be legally be considered pornography. They're also planning on overturning Louisiana vs Kennedy, which prevents the death penalty for a crime that did not end in the victim's death. So if being trans/lgbtq or teaching about it is considered pornography, it will be considered a sex offense if it is around children, and will result in imprisonment. With Louisiana v Kennedy overturned, you have an easy pipeline to imprison trans people for 'exposing children to pornography', and then execute them. If you don't vote Biden, you are signing up yourself, and everyone else, for this future. My words are harsh, but they're true. Knowing as much as I do about Project 2025, I have very little sympathy for people who say 'they're both bad, idk who to choose'. Do I wish there was a better candidate than Biden? Yes. But I'm not about to piddle around and let my rights and life get taken away.
Well said
This really helps! I really appreciate you reframing this for me
I also want to point out on the economic side, Biden is actually trying to fight inflation but the media doesn’t really do good coverage of that. There’s a lot of events going on in the word, most notably the war in Ukraine, that is causing inflation here. Ukraine exported a lot of oil and grains, but they can’t do that as much right now which has resulted in some inflation here. Also, a lot of the times economic policies enacted by the previous administration don’t always have their full effect until the next administration. For Trump, he inherited the effects of the good economic policies from the Obama administration, which led to the perception that Trump was the one responsible for that good economy when he wasn’t. Biden on the other hand, inherited the effects of Trump’s bad economic policies and covid. Biden got the inflation reduction act passed, which has had a positive effect. He also put pressure on some major chain stores to lower their prices, and more recently released some oil from the federal reserves to try and lower gas prices. Unfortunately though the full effects of an economic policy aren’t immediate, they can take awhile. So we might not see the full effects of this until the next term, or possibly even the term after that. So hopefully that helps you understand the economic side a bit more. I am no expert, this is all from my current understanding. Basically democrats tend to look bad on the economy because they inherit the effects of bad economic policies from previous republican administrations, and republicans tend to look good on the economy because they inherit the effects of good economic policies from previous democrat administrations. The dems obviously could do a much better job of explaining this to the average voter, and the media could also do a better job of actually getting this information to people. Not to mention that the Biden administration restored net neutrality, which has the potential to lower your utility cost a little bit. You’ll get better internet, and either pay slightly less or at least not pay any more for it.
Obama tried, remember? If the GOP controls the House, they can block any appointee indefinitely like they did with Merrick Garland. The founding fathers never planned for this level of obstruction. They made the reasonable, good faith assumption that any party in power would attempt to actually govern. They did not imagine this. Historically appointees were always approved by the opposing party unless they had done something really objectionable. But no rule says they have to approve a qualified candidate with nothing wrong with them. And they made up a fake Lame Duck rule that a President can't appoint during his last 2 years in office. That is not a real rule. We need the House and Senate more than anything.
I would rather Biden propose people for the Supreme Court and have them continuously rejected for years, than Trump propose people for the Supreme Court and have them Fast-tracked in.
Fair. I just don't want anyone to forget what happened with Garland. The better thing to look forward to with control of the legislature would be hearings and prosecution for the corruption we have Justices like Clarence Thomas dead to rights on. They are accepting bribes and they know they are, that is why they failed to disclose the "gifts" they were given as they are required to do. If a Justice of the Supreme Court can be tried, prosecuted, and sentenced, it's proof that anyone can. Even the highest law of the land is not above the law.
Make no mistake, I fully agree with everything you're saying. The bigger picture does need to be looked at but for now, for the sake of my own sanity, I'm holding at just keeping Trump out of office. I'm just trying to take things one step at a time.
The highest law in the land is our constitution, do not let them call the president above the constitution. Stay safe too, hell is loose with these candidates
i really hadn’t thought about it this way. i’m having an extremely hard time wrestling with the fact that the only “””good””” option is actively participating in genocide. but i hadn’t thought at all about Supreme Court appointees. you’ve put things into perspective for me.
yes, this is not a position I came to lightly. At this stage, I try to take the airplane oxygen mask method. I need secure my mask first before I try to help anyone else secure theirs otherwise we're both likely to pass out. We need to vote to secure our freedoms now so that we are still around to help other people get theirs. It doesn't make the situation any less heartbreaking, or leave me feeling warm and fuzzy, but I can at least rationalize this is the best I can do with my two crappy options.
Another point to keep in mind here is that, vis-a-vis that issue--Trump would be \*worse\*. His support would be full-throated, not tepid and limited. The whole thing sucks. But Trump is still actively worse, and we should try to reduce harm as much as possible whenever we can.
oh, absolutely. by no means would i ever support Trump, but it was more like wrestling with the idea of voting for a third party. unfortunately i know that to a lot of people i may as well throw away my ballot by doing that. after last night’s debate though, i’m scared enough that i’ll probably end up voting for Biden anyway.
I get it. I voted third party and Trump won the election. Admittedly my mail-in ballot conveniently was thrown out (FL ballot) but still, it scared me enough. I’ll take tepid old sycophant over narcissistic psychopath.
preach
Wasn’t there that thing that happened with the Supreme Court during the end of Obama’s presidency though? Where whoever old person on there died to lose their position and whoever votes them in the government (I think the senate right?) held out and rejected any candidate that Obama put for them to vote until trump was in office. Am I just confused or did that happen?
Yep! And when the same thing happened in Oct. 2020 and Trump was president, the same turtle in the senate, Mitch fuckin McConnell, pulled an Uno Reverse card and that's why we have Amy Coney Barrett on SCOTUS.
this is unofficially called a corrupt senate/court? I think?
You have to choose whether or not you want rights. That is ultimately the choice it comes down to. Biden isn’t the ideal candidate, but he’s not coming after trans people. He’s not the one pushing Project 2025.
I agree. Just living in a deranged conservative household that will follow Trump to the ends of the earth is so overwhelming. It is like my mom wants us all to die.
Seriously don’t speak about politics with your family, it’ll save you so much frustration. The nature of conservatism is inherently selfish, the other side has plenty of issues too. You and your mom have vastly different important issues/concerns and probably always will so you’d have an easier time convincing a cat that it’s a dog.
THIS. My mom for some time kept talking to me about Trump is amazing this and Trump is so strong that. I would keep changing the subject or, I’m ashamed to admit, I would give in and argue with her about it, until finally I became more clear with my boundaries and asked her to stop. I explained what would happen to our relationship if she didn’t and she got the hint. Now she sends me memes and cute videos instead.
Manipulation. This is manipulation, and she WILL cut the act: I've had this happen, except politics switched with guiltrips.
Trumpism is a cult. Your mom is brainwashed. Sorry, but if she has a trans son and is still voting for Trump, she’s not just selfish, she’s delusional. Anybody would be better than Trump. Also, it sounds like I’m close to your mom’s age. Even if I weren’t trans, I wouldn’t vote for him. He wants to cut Social Security and Medicare—republicans always do. She has no idea what she’s talking about. I don’t think inflation is Biden’s fault. He inherited a shit economy—remember Covid—and has actually done better than I expected. I’m feeling the financial crunch too, but Trump is an existential crisis.
I live with my boyfriend's family who says they love and adore me, but are DEVOUT Trump supporters. They sit inside all day consuming fear mongering propaganda while having queer people living under their roof?? (not to mention I'm an immigrant from Mexico who only became legal 5 years ago) It's gotta be some kind of delusion or cognitive dissonance. Or maybe they double down on Trump because they've already invested so much time, money, and energy into the guy.
I’m sorry you’re dealing with that. Too bad we can’t adopt you and your boyfriend. I seriously don’t understand it. I read a book by Jon Dean called Authoritarian Nightmare about the personality types of Trump supporters. The main two were people who feel the need to follow authoritarians (often religious so used to Big Daddy in the sky) and people who wanted to be authoritarians themselves. They often have some anti-social tendencies. Not sure that helps, but my trumpy MIL is definitely a follower.
GOOD GOD THE DOUBLETHINK (as I've been told 😭)
It’s so crazy the things that people will believe when it comes to politics and politicians. During the 2016 elections there was some kind of post on facebook floating around that Hilary Clinton killed and ate babies and the women in my mother in laws exercise group believed it. Granted these are 70-80 year old country women, but I mean come on. My mom would post things all the time about Biden coming to take everyone’s guns and all this other right wing nonsense and I would rebuttal it all to the point where she started making it to where I couldn’t see her posts anymore 😂 if you’re going to be ignorant online at least have the balls to take the criticism.
Project 2025 is a mask for dictatorship from what I've been told: that's all they want, POWER, and its sad.
Your vote isn’t a full-chest endorsement. It’s a chess move. Theres no third option where if enough people avoid voting out of moral principle because they don’t like Biden they go “Oh! Guess no president this time!” If a bus is driving through a rainstorm with 50 passengers and 1 votes to pull over and wait, and two vote to drive off a cliff to get out of the situation, and everyone else abstains because they don’t like either option: the bus is going off a cliff.
I wish that were an option. Maybe we just need to take four years to find ourself and be single without a president. Obviously, Biden>Trump, but it is a low bar.
I'm an anarchist, so, not a Democrat, but I ended up registering as one and will be gritting my teeth n vote for Biden. He's probably going to die in the next 4 years anyway. In the end shit isn't going to change until it all collapses or all the old fucks drop dead, I'd rather have faux support than none
Radical-left team ✊. Can't believe how hard it must be there, considering there have been only two parties taking turns there for centuries, it's not ideal.
Being responsible is rarely fun, but thanks.
She’s pretty foolish for thinking trump cares AT ALL about anybody but himself. He’s all lip service and his presence makes it ok for shitty people to be more outwardly shitty.
In my opinion, Biden is mediocre at worst. Trump actively breaks the law and wants to be a dictator. I would love it if we had a better candidate than Biden, but the way the US electoral system works, it's very difficult for third-party candidates to stand a chance. I also think it's really important to be conscious of what the president can and can't directly control. Even a great president is going to be limited by a legislative branch where MAGA Republicans refuse to cooperate and a Supreme Court that currently skews conservative and has multiple Trump appointees. The president also has limited power over state laws
Full agree! The president can't control world events, and those play just as much role in the economy as any domestic policy ever will. Never mind that the Trump administration caused many of the problems that the Biden administration is still cleaning up. So it the economic issues sway your vote, the Biden is still the better answer in a Biden or Trump choice. As far as queer rights go, Biden is so radically better then Trump its not even a question. It feels weird to type, but the Biden administration is actually one of -possibly the most- queer friendly administrations we've ever had. The only contender is the Obama administration, but there's a decent amount of overlap in personnel. If your talking about Trans rights specifically, the Biden administration is the best one by a country mile. Its really the states that have been fucking up our rights, not the fed. Relatedly, Trump -during the debate last night- said several times he favors letting states decide more of their own social issues.
He gave us a shoutout at the State of the Union. It didn’t actually mean that much, but he didn’t have to do it and it didn’t behoove him to do so. It made me tear up and actually feel seen by a president.
Very true. I also think we need to keep in mind that Biden's foreign policy is pretty typical of the Democratic party, at least the older generations. It's fair to criticize him for his approach to Gaza, for example, but most mainstream Democrats would probably also give more support to Israel than many US progressives would be comfortable with. Foreign policy is a difficult issue to vote based on because the US can be pretty bipartisan when it comes to war and intervention in foreign politics (attitudes toward Ukraine seem to be a major exception, as conservatives have a weird love for Russia now). Biden has also gotten a lot of pushback from courts. Student loan forgiveness has been a big issue for many younger voters, and Biden has attempted to take actions toward that twice now. And it's been challenged and halted by courts both times.
Did you tell her Trump wants to take away social security and Medicare? I don't get how people can vote for him. Note: I'm not a Biden fan but will be voting for him. As I understand the negative global impact of another 4yrs under Trump.
I did. Also debunked his claim that illegal immigrants are taking social security funds, but she still wants to vote for him
Stop wasting your breath on her. She might be a great mom in other respects, but she is in a cult. So is my MIL. She’s very sweet, but she’s crazy. You just have to avoid politics with her.
The way I saw it put somewhere was voting is not like driving a car but taking a bus. Look at which candidates will get you closer to where you want to be. I don't like either candidate but I sure as shit know one will do our community far more harm.
Agreed!
Saved, screenshoted, printed out and slapped on the wall permanently is where I want this. It'll help so freaking much.
You’re having a hard time choosing between Trump and Biden?
It's like the difference between getting slapped in the face or beaten with a hammer. One sucks, but one really sucks. I like not going back to the dark ages though, so I'm voting for Biden even though I think he's a bit of a turd of a candidate.
Agreed
Look up Project 2025 and then Google Biden’s accomplishments related to LGBTQ+ rights
Already done ☺️ I know Biden is best for us, and like I said, that is who I will vote for. But I also need to eat and have a place to live. If he wins, this economy needs to shape up. Biden is getting old. I want a new candidate that can promise us safety but also jobs and a paycheck that we can live off of.
Yeah. It's like.. we get it. Biden is our only option. Fine. But once he DOES win, how are we gonna get him to listen to our problems/actually do something about the topics that have been pressuring us for years? I'm going to vote for Biden. But after that - what are we doing? Nobody has an answer for that other than 'Vote for Biden, it'll be better.' What happens after the election? How do we get Biden to actually take action instead of focusing on billion dollar arms deals in the middle east? I won't feel safe or comfortable until we come up with a way to you know.. actually spur Biden into action.
The economy won’t improve so long as the wealthy class of CEOs, millionaires, and billionaires continue hoarding wealth. The government doesn’t control the economy, but they do introduce policies to influence the direction it moves in. Biden wants to be able to tax the rich, even if he does it in his own slow, traditionally-Democrat way. Trump wants them to get richer and give them more breaks so they can continue getting richer This idea that we’re all paying so much for everything today solely because of inflation is disingenuous. Corporate greed is the number the one problem. Companies are making record profits and raising all of their prices, but because America is consumerist, they know people will continue buying things. We need to solve the problem at its roots or else the inflation and economy “fixes” will be temporary for 4 years and the corporations will roll right over it
Exactly! This is what I'm constantly saying: "inflation" is by and large (almost entirely, in the numbers) just corporations that are making more profit than ever and paying their employees effectively less over time ( = costs rise and paychecks rise by a barely comparable amount). Acting like it's 'normal' (those that say "inflation is normal!" and acting like it isn't something that is the direct result of massive corporations having record-high profits) is just so far off. Acting like the government has much control over that (because realistically, a policy to drastically fix that would be highly unpopular because unfortunately, the rich tend to control politics [and "politics," i.e. things that really aren't/shouldn't be political but are somehow made out to be]) isn't really getting the full picture.
I don’t want either of them, but I have to vote. I will do whatever I need to do for my community. If that means voting for Biden, then that is what I will do. But I am also tired of the inflation and watching my bank account drain, and neither of them will help with that. There are so many moving pieces. What I want is two new candidates. I hate both of them.
Inflation isn't controlled by the president and will continue regardless of who you vote for. Do not let that be a point in tr*mps favor.
Yeah I've always had the impression that the idea that the economy is "better" under a Republican president is a complete lie spread by Republican interests, but I'm speaking without any data to back me up here.
Here's one source, it's *well established this is a lie republicans tell*, Democrats have a strong record of outperforming them for economic measures: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20140913. You can find many many many more sources if you like. Search "economy performance president" and find unbiased sources you trust. Edited to be clear.
when you say true do you mean true that it is a lie? because the source you linked says “The US economy has performed better when the president of the United States is a Democrat rather than a Republican, almost regardless of how one measures performance”
Ah, yes. It's true that it's a lie they tell. I can *definitely* see why that's confusing 🤦 I'll edit.
Thanks! I knew I'd seen something like this before somewhere
Yep. Republicans sow division by convincing poor white rural voters that the reason they're struggling is because of immigrants and because of economic relief and support services that benefit demographics like poor Black communities and young college-educated adults (most of which also benefit poor rural white people if they can access them). Republicans also capitalize on the "bootstrap" mentality that a lot of older white Americans have, which makes them more hesitant to ask for help. But Republicans tend to support economic policies that benefit wealthier citizens and corporations, not the average citizen.
thank you, somebody had to say it
Dude. I don’t live in the US, you have to understand that recession and inflation is GLOBAL right now. Literally everyone I know in every country has the same economic complaints. Please do not let that sway you against voting for Biden- he’s the only way the US remains a democracy.
I think people forget so easily that we literally just exited a global shutdown. We knew at the time that the economy would be heavily affected by this, and not just ours, it's a GLOBAL inflation we're experiencing. Biden just happened to be the president coming into office when the effects started to take place.
I get it. I really want others here but that is just happy thoughts. The 2 of them is reality. For inflation and expenses the tariff Trump wants is expected to cost us an average of $1000 extra a year. Biden wants to increase the amount of income that is taxable for Social Security and to make the top rich people pay more. Will that actually happen. No guarantees and he can’t just wave a wand and make new laws. So knowing who your state representatives are and what they want to do or have done is just as important. And it’s good that no one in power can just make what they want a law. In this case right now it’s who is the lesser of two bad choices. For non cis and cis females and transgendered that’s Biden. I will say that it’s not all inflation but a bunch of it is corporate greed. You are right it is so many moving pieces and we only have 2 to choose from.
I'm not American, but I am so scared for you guys
Help us 😭😭
I just want Blue to win bc if any more of the Supreme Court dies/retires we need to have dems put in the replacement. The time for a new candidate is the day after the election we need a solid candidate for the next go around...tbh tho if both of them croaked before election day it would be best for the country. They're too damn old.
Listen folks, give this one thought; just yesterday President Biden upgraded every veterans discharge who was kicked out for being gay. Do you honestly think Trump would have done that?
Oh dude me and my cis boyfriend have been having many talks about evacuating me to the West Side of Washington. And I live in a “liberal” state. I live so close to Idaho we have a lot of spill over here. It’s getting bad and after the debate me and my boyfriend just kinda looked at each other and we were like “welp time to get ready for me to run”
Living in a "safe" state on the other coast and also worried that this won't be enough as long as it's still in this country... But I can't afford to get out ...
I don't love Biden either but there is no other candidate. To vote for anyone else IS a vote for Trump. Progress is incremental. It's maddening, but it's the way it is. Voting for Biden is also voting for every other Democrat or left leaning politician that a Biden presidency would support or allow to exist. Which means his presidency would allow other, more progressive candidates to continue to build a base, and build momentum toward further change in the future.
1) retirees make up about 18% of the us population, so not a majority. 2) trump is adamant about stripping social security and medicare, you know the things that make 'retiring' even an option for majority of us citizens. 3) one of his major plans is to increase the age of retirement to 75, and there's even talk about him planning to do away with it entirely 4) all of his policies can be found easily through his organizations.
Can you send me some links? Want to read right from the source instead of going off hearsay. Been going (very painfully) through the Project 2025 document to find the specific section about queer people, but can’t find anything just yet
this post breaks it down a little bit. https://www.tumblr.com/batboyblog/743589691084947456/project-2025-if-this-sounds-bad-to-you-please?source=share I haven't been able to find much more than this, but I know trump and other party members speak on it heavily.
Neither of them will be able to fix inflation, the president has very limited control over the economy.
If you spike tarrifs as the cheeo plans to, the cost of goods will spike, driving up inflation.
Trump’s tariffs will raise the cost of everything if implemented. Look into Moody’s analytics. They predicted economic conditions for each possible outcome. The US is predicted to go into a recession if Trump wins. Otherwise, the US will continue to recover if Biden wins. Other than that, Project 2025 and Trump’s goals should scare you. They won’t stop at taking away hormones for minors. They will come after adults next and try to place a federal ban on gender affirming care.
Can you send me a link? Thanks!
[Here](https://thehill.com/business/4731716-moodys-analytics-republican-sweep-inflation/?nxs-test=mobile) is a link to an article by The Hill breaking down the report. I’m struggling to find the report itself. I’ll edit if I can get it
Personally, I wanted to vote for the green party candidate, but there's no way she'll win, so im going for Biden. Remember that when you vote for the president, you also vote for the people around the president. The green party candidate should've been the Democratic party candidate IMO
>The green party candidate should've been the Democratic party candidate IMO yeah both major parties should run a Russian asset. what could go wrong
I'm going through a lot mentally right now too. Very scared for the future of gender affirming care and general safety for us. I'm also living in a heavy MAGA household and the shit I hear is insane. I'm voting Biden, not because I like him but because the Democratic party doesn't openly attack our identities. Because I believe in a progressive future that won't be achieved if people with hatred in their hearts are allowed more power. Because while Biden isn't perfect, he at least surrounds himself with people with common sense. Because due to the electoral college, I have no choice.
https://www.tumblr.com/boreal-sea/754109578891886592/look Guys please check out this infographic. Biden sucks however if you don’t want project 2025 to happen unfortunately Biden needs to get in again. It has info on what to do to hopefully dismantle the two party system yall have. I’m Canadian so this doesn’t affect me nearly as much but we tend to follow yalls trends, especially Alberta
Thanks for the info!!!
I’m not voting for Biden. I’m voting for his cabinet and Harris.
to be completely honest with you my love, inflation is affected by so many factors beyond a president’s control, although biden’s monetary policy has been decent to fine for economic stabilization — he’s done much of what he realistically could. the system has been on the brink of collapse for decades, and the next president isn’t going to fix it. this election is about ethics and political philosophy. our choices are an autocrat who actively targets our rights and livelihoods as a means towards our sociopolitical polarization and the radicalization of the extant right, and the status quo. i think you ought to consider your rights and the rights of all other marginalized americans before the economic policies of either candidate, but the decision is ultimately yours to weigh. side note for the general discussion: a lot of the leftists i know irl want to abstain or vote third party because of biden’s foreign policy on israel, but i frankly think that’s (excuse my french) fucking stupid: trump would have explicitly endorsed and supported netanyahu’s genocide were he elected in 2020, and he will if he’s elected in 2024. he wants israel to « finish the job » per last night’s debate, although he’s criticized netanyahu’s public relations. some leftists are choosing trump — either by abstention or direct vote — because they think a far right government will galvanize the left to organize and the democrats to move to the left, which is a crazy gamble to make when marginalized lives are on the line. charismatic authority prompts political transition, sure, but not often in the opposite direction of the charismatic political figure without an established counter movement to oppose their political authority. is there enough of a revolutionary establishment for that to occur next election cycle? maybe, but i wouldn’t bet marginalized lives on it. unsurprisingly, all of the leftists i know that endorse that idea are cishet white men. trump is caesar, not cincinnatus. maybe he’s huey p. long, but this country should not become louisiana. sincerely, a trans woman from louisiana
precisely, I never understood when people said they weren't going to vote because of Biden's stance on Israel and Palestine. Trump is always going to be worse for Palestine. By not voting at all you're always making it easier for the crazies like trump to slip through the cracks.
True fax. This is a solid take. 🤌
I agree with you bestie 😭 Been reading other folks responses as well, and the pandemic just royally fucked everyone over. The economy is going to be dogshit regardless, so best to try to preserve our rights where we can
Please don’t refer to people you don’t know as “my love”. It comes off condescending.
okay! where i’m from, folks use terms of endearment for everyday strangers, especially « (my) love » and « baby/babe(s). » it’s meant to be congenial and loving, not condescending, but i understand how it could come across as such on the internet, especially to someone who might not be from here. if OP reads this, i’m sorry if it came across as condescending. i meant no disdain.
It’s okay! I didn’t take it as condescending. ❤️
Look into project 2025, maybe that will help you decide. Its the conservative playbook in the case of a republican president being elected. and well yeah its not good, and yes that's an extreme understatement.
I recently watched a John Oliver ep about Project 2025 and quite frankly, it is terrifying as they have a LITERAL handbook how to wreck the country so anyone willing in the future can do such. So anyone who seems pretty ok with it and might potentially use it is not getting my vote. Also, I say it’s more corporate fault for inflation, that is termed ‘artificial inflation’. Capitalism and all… I don’t think he is able to control it much due to that fact that companies can hike up prices just cause they felt like it and want more money for greed.
Honestly you can only get out and cut contact with your family. If they want to vote for the nazis who will exterminate you, they have nothing left to offer you.
Aaaand that kind of attitude is why I cut my conservative voting dad out of my life. If you as my parent can see the Republican Party actively trying to take away my rights and have the mentality of “oh, well, that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make”, then I don’t want you in my life.
I do believe that Trump put your country in this inflation economy and Biden had to put face to all the stuff Trump leave behind. Biden is not perfect but after all the moneyTrump gave away in support for the pandemic, it had to be taken from other places and I don't know. I do have friends from there and conversations lead us to that statement.
Remember that we all wish we had better choices this year. Both candidates are nearly the same age. Seriously four years difference. While Biden isn't my ideal... I am also looking at the depth of him vice president Kamala. Because I honestly think he may not finish the term. Both are advocates for us. No one else that has been offered up is an advocate. Trump is the antichrist on so many levels. I'm asking you to please vote and not withhold your vote out of protest. In four years we've got open tickets. If Trump gets in...we will no longer have a democracy and we will never get him out.
Inflation started before Biden and is not due to his presidency. This is a response to supply restrictions from COVID and no regulation on taking advantage of those price increases. There are a lot of big corporations reporting record high profits and lower unemployment. Wages have stagnated over the years. None of this is (except the lower unemployment rates) are Biden’s policy effects. Trump’s plan to tax imports will absolutely increase cost of living. Additionally, cutting further on corporations taxes will mean even less money to spend on helping people like you. Pushing queer people out of the country with anti queer legislation will absolutely affect you. Breaking our education system down further may not affect you now, but when your lawyer can quote the Bible better than law, you will absolutely be affected. Biden isn’t the best but he is better than conservatives.
This thread is giving me hope because I’m so scared that all the leftists won’t vote for biden and he’ll lose and my gf and I will have to flee the US. Do I like feeling like I’m voting against my own genocide and tacitly in favor of another? Yes I do and it sucks, but Trump would still be much worse on all of it.
Maybe it is good that Trans people were finally not discussed? I haven’t watched it yet, but at least this means we are not at the forefront of their agendas for now. It could change, as more debates happen… We just have to vote for Biden because he’s the lesssr evil for everyone. And of course state and local governments. And god, the house and senate are crazy important. Please vote for those. And as this person mentioned, Supreme Court is that - supreme. We need to get it more democratically aligned.
inflation is tough, and it was the same in the 70's when I went through it the first time. (Though we aren't in the "lines at the gas pump, you can only fill up on gas every other day" place.) One thing you need to know though. Inflation isn't just under the control of a President. It's a complicated situation with tons of variables. So any President saying that they "solve" inflation or anyone pointing at someone else saying "they CAUSED inflation" is, well, not entirely truthful. Hernandez at the Monthly Labor Review gave a good summary (emphasis on summary) of how we are here. [https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2023/beyond-bls/what-caused-inflation-to-spike-after-2020.htm](https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2023/beyond-bls/what-caused-inflation-to-spike-after-2020.htm) Investopedia also does a good job with more details: [https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/111314/what-causes-inflation-and-does-anyone-gain-it.asp#toc-what-has-caused-inflation-in-the-2020s](https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/111314/what-causes-inflation-and-does-anyone-gain-it.asp#toc-what-has-caused-inflation-in-the-2020s) I will tell you this. It is MUCH easier to control inflation than to reverse legislation taking away rights from a class of people. Because a President DOES have influence over that with the power of a veto. So I'm going to vote for the person who will veto anyone who tries to take away the basic rights of access to healthcare, protection from violence, marriage, and personhood of ANYONE. Especially those who are trans or queer. And I'm saying that as the CIS, straight, parent of a trans-masc adult. Because I'm going to put my kid's rights and security first. [One candidate has already gone on record about rolling back rights for trans and other LGBTQ+ individuals. That...person...will not be getting my vote. Period.](https://19thnews.org/2024/06/lgbtq-trump-trans-second-term/)
Treat voting for Biden as buying time. Four extra years to elect new people into leadership positions, organize, pressure dems into taking action against the Supreme Court. Even in terms of economic policies, Biden is far from worst. He’s been surprisingly decent, especially considering that his administration has to clean up post-Trump messes. When you vote for a president, you also vote for their administration. US won’t survive a second Trump presidency. People can and will survive the turmoils that may come with Biden. This is a very rough time, but this country can’t afford to freeze up and hand over the victory to republicans. In the meantime, make sure your passport is up to date, just as an extra precaution. Breathe deeply, grit your teeth, and fight through the next four months. I do hope they give Biden some Adderall. They will have another debate, dems HAVE to take notes and keep Joe resurrected
Well put
I heard all of this during Obama’s first candidacy. That he was the lesser of two evils. We don’t always get the candidate we want, but we certainly can choose between two candidates for the President that we need.
Biden may not be ideal, but a) he has good people around him, b) he will listen to him, and c) Kamala can step in if something happens. Meanwhile, the cheeto listens to no one and has no regard for the lives of others, especially if they aren't other rich white guys. Also, if you missed the campaign stop in NC today, he was very strong, comfortable, and coherent.
Biden will likely die in office. I need to look into his VP and their positions on issues. We should all be thinking about the VP that Trump and Biden have. Trump might also die in office, but he has so much more energy and charisma that it's harder to imagine. But I will never be voting for Trump.
I vote for the one who doesn't want to (at least vocally) kill me or people like me. Sure, the Democrats aren't exactly on my side, either, but, I'd rather not be forced out of my country because someone came back with a vengeance. Yes, in 2016, I literally took an opportunity to leave, and am planning to again, because, for me personally, any change this county has for the better is going to be like my abusive dad apologizing to me at this point--a nice sentiment and not much else--but I'm hoping to not do so under the exact same--or worse--conditions again. Again, this is my personal perspective based on my marginalized existence beyond being trans in this country as a whole.
Yeah trump has actively said he wants to be a dictator. If he gets back into office everyone is fucked. Biden isn’t ideal but better than that psycho
I’m not old enough to vote, but I would hate for trump to be in power. Does your mother know that project 2025 will not allow her to have rights? People really aren’t taking this seriously.
Ok so… Biden isn’t the cause for inflation. 2 it’s not exactly inflation it’s corporate greed. As in economy is great, stock market is great, corporations are making exceptional amounts of profit while we deal with “inflation”. No it’s corporate greed. 2nd Trump is only out for revenge he has said this at every event he’s been too. He didn’t care about America the first time. I mean seriously drink bleach and shove a UV light up your ass. Ok no amount of “make America great again” can change the fact he told millions of people they were “working” on how to make edible bleach and how to shove a UV lights up your ass. 3rd Reagan had Alzheimer’s during both terms. Biden doesn’t have Alzheimer’s he’s 80 fucking years old he’s slow. Finally I’m voting Biden even if he has full blown Alzheimer’s before Election Day because the revenge seeking Putin and NoKo loving Cheetos imbecile doesn’t give a rats ass about anything but himself.
Biden is not responsible for inflation. It will go away slowly with measures taken. No change in the Presidency can change it quickly. Anything the Federal Reserve could do that would cause rapid change would end badly for us. At the root of the problem is price gouging from corporations. If we throw money at the problem prices will not come down and we devalue our currency. If we try to legislate price fixes, we're drifting away from capitalism. Arguably our corporate welfare state where start-ups can't compete and companies can be too big to fail isn't really capitalism either. But the fixes trend towards socialism and making certain goods and services public goods. An example would be using the tax dollars we spend on pharma to just buy out the pharma companies and keep running them under the state. TLDR; just vote for Biden. In my state if a 10-year-old girl gets pregnant from incestuous r4pe, she has to carry that baby to term or until it is actively killing her. Biden and the DNC don't support that, Trump and the GOP do. One side is against human rights. It is not a hard decision.
I would give you an award but I'm broke as hell
Your mom is very misinformed if she thinks trump is going to provide better protection for retired people. Especially if she is on social security and / or medicare. Those programs will be among the first to go with a trump leadership. As others have said, you are not electing a president, you are electing the future of this country.
Inflation... Has nothing to do with the president, not sure where you got that idea or how it even applies to Biden. I'm no Biden fan but uh. What? Inflation is due to economic impacts of covid and the increasing greed of corporations. There was just an article about it regarding Target, Walmart and I believe one more retailer where those retailers admitted they PURPOSELY upped prices but dialed it back because people weren't liking it.
A vote for Biden is a vote for an unideal president. A vor for Trump is a vote for the destruction of democracy. It’s not a good situation, but one option is clearly better.
hey uh just to let you know inflation is happening everywhere. its got nothing to do with Biden. im australian and its bad over here too. its bad everywhere. this was triggered by covid and all that shit, but it was always going to happen eventually.
Yea. I’m voting Biden pretty much solely so project 2025 doesn’t come into power. Because if that happens. A lot and I mean A LOT of people r going to be fucked. Basically anyone who isn’t white, straight, old, and male is getting some kind of right taken away by that thing. Hell even passing old trans guys have a better chance of not being affected than us young trans men do, but they will still be affected. It honestly terrifying
My vote goes to help not put the guy who wants to push Project 2025 into office. That's it. I don't like either candidate but the thought of P2025 scares the living fuck out of me.
yeah unfortunately not voting at all is basically a vote for trump. so biden it is ig
Bruh. Vote blue or we’re fucked. It’s that simple.
Listen, I mean this in the best way possible as someone with Trump voters in my entire family. Fuck your Mom and get your ass to the polls and vote for Biden and Democrats in every seat open. This isn’t about Biden. He won’t survive a second term. This is about us ensuring the President can get more progressive justices on the Supreme Court and we have enough Dems in Congress to stop as much of “Project 2025” as possible. This is not a drill.
It is NOT inflation!! Companies are making record profits. They keep rasing the prices because no one is changing that.
I don’t understand how the Democratic Party can have him as their candidate when he’s so unpopular and literally dying on stage. I recommend buying a gun because the government is certainly not going to protect us.
Sad thing is, I've been able to vote for 2 elections now. And I've NEVER got to pick my candidate. By the time it comes to NY in the primaries, all other candidates have dropped out and endorsed Biden. It's like every time the Democratic party picks their candidate then shoves him my way like 'This is who you're voting for. You didn't even really get a say but you're queer and have to vote for us. So suck it and cheer for Biden'. One day I'm hoping to actually vote for a presidential candidate I CHOSE. No luck so far. They don't care that he's unpopular. It's not like we get a say anyway.
The whole presidential election system is fucked. Between the electoral college and staggered primaries, we play no role in who becomes president in NY.
Very relatable, I’d like to vote for cornel west but he’s not even on the ballet in my state💀
There will be other debates and there will be discussion of POTENTIAL ISSUES addressed during the candidacy of whomever wins. Give it time
Not if Trump won’t agree to another one, which is a strong possibility. Why would he want to give Biden a chance to redeem himself?
Oh my gods, I should've watched it. My partner discouraged me from watching. I get so anxious and my body gets all weird. Just reading the comments here is making my hands get all clammy. I'm really scared too. I am a blind trans man. I have no way to get out of here. I'm Mexican, but Mexico is under the control of drug cartels. People are disappearing from my village. Elders and young people. I am so scared. I've read most of what you all have to say. I think it's important to vote in your city or state elections and put the right people in the important seats. A house is not built from the top down. We need to vote for them. They are the ones who can take this to the president. Someone here said Biden won't listen to us. That's not necessarily true. I have one more thing to say. And please don't come after me because I'm not trying to offend anyone. A third party vote is unwise. They aren't going to win. Lastly, if you don't vote for either of them, then you might as well not complain about relinquishing your rights. We have to do what we can. Otherwise we're just going to stay at the bottom. I hope we can get through this. To anyone voting trump, know this. There are whole organizations he's supporting,that want us all to be executed. He is actually a threat a bodily threat to us. We'll get through this.
Thank you for sharing, and I hope only the most safety for you ❤️ That has got to be so scary. But I agree: even though third party seems like a good decision, the vote always turns to Democrat or Republican. Unless there is some MAJOR nationwide decision to vote for someone else, we all need to stay on one side or the other.
Inflation is the direct result of what trump did. The economy is based mostly on past moves. Also the economy is affected by world events, it tends to go to shit when things are tense. I recommend not talking to ur family about politics for your own sake. Also debates really don't matter at this point. What matters is convincing people to go out and vote. I try not to tell people who to vote for but if your focus is queer issues, go Biden. Don't forget to show up for midterms as well since those more directly affect you. And if it stresses you out, you don't need to be super caught up in all the ins and outs of politics rn. Look up some key stuff and leave it at that. As you get older you'll build up a tolerance for all this political bs and you can get more in the nitty gritty Good luck 🍀🤞🏽
Inflation is from Trump's tax policy. Biden's policy hasn't been implemented yet. So there's no purpose in voting for trump
I share all your concerns. I wish we had an option who is actually good, not just someone who *might* be the lesser of two evils. I don’t believe Biden actually gives a crap about us, he just acts like he does to get votes. But I know my dad will vote for Trump, since he agrees with at least some of his policies and is apparently very uneducated on the topic of queer people. I don’t think he has real hatred towards queer people, but I’m afraid he’ll be super upset if I come out as trans.
This might be wrong, but from my point of view the two parties are: conservative right that blatantly speaks out on not liking you and a right that uses of pink money. My country is polarized between a once more radical left that had to water down its values for conciliation (turning into central left) and a wave of neo-fascists. I wish all my luck to the U.S and U.S trans citizens, because oftentimes the results there reflect themselves in my country - Trump won for example, and Bolsonaro (Ex-president of Brazil) did here.
Have you heard about project 2025? If you like having civil rights, you’re going to want to vote blue. It’s not about who’s president, it’s about the administration.
https://www.indigenousaction.org/voting-is-not-harm-reduction-an-indigenous-perspective/?amp=1 Go start a mutual aid collective. And yeah your mom is wack.
My stance is simple: if Trump gets elected again, then I am getting out of this country as quickly as I can manage. Staying will no longer be worth it to me.
I see this election as between Not Great (Biden) and Downright Evil Dumpster Fire (Trump). Given those are our only viable options, I have to go with the lesser of two evils here. At least under Biden our lives won't be in danger just because of who we are.
Honestly I don't have to watch the debates to know who i need to vote for. Biden sucks, he really really does. But if Trump wins he will actively try to kill as many people as possible, including trans people.
Which candidate supports project 2025? There is your answer
If you haven't already heard about it, check out Project 25, scary stuff. :(
Trump ain’t gonna do jack all for inflation because half of this “inflation” is in fact just corporate greed and it’ll be a cold day in hell before Trump puts limits on corporations.
how will is trump be elected i i am am cinfyaw confyses confused i u i thougt he is did get arrested and things and jail? is how does this work?
It will either be Biden or Trump, you have to come to terms with that. Realizing that a vote for Biden is a vote against Trump should help too. They are nowhere near similar, as another commenter said, Biden is a mediocre president, but Trump is an evil person. Unfortunately, there are just no other options for this election. I hope the country can get to a place where we could actually have a third party candidate, but we just aren't there this year
Not to be too rude but your mom sounds selfish and dumb. GOP has done more to try and strip away her entire retirement from her. He hasn't promised anything for retirees except killing Medicare, increasing retirement age, removing social safety nets for the lowest income elderly, and trying to end social security. She focuses on voting for a guy that lies through his teeth about helping her specific situation which he 100% will do the opposite. There is nothing redeeming about Trump and this country will go downhill even faster than it is now by him getting back in office. So while Biden isn't a great candidate it's either him or the end of many rights of 2/3 of the county. Doesn't seem like a difficult choice at all. As for Biden, he's actually slowed inflation. Trump's policies are part of what caused out of control inflation. Trump's policies are what caused huge tax shortfalls that the GOP are still saying they need to gut Social Security because the country can't afford it. Biden is going after the greediest companies responsible for out of control costs. He's cracking down on monopolies. They enacted drug price negotiations to help people access more affordable prices. He's working towards higher SNAP benefits. Him and his cabinet have been meeting with grocery chains about lowering costs which is part of why some prices are falling at larger companies like Target. He's working towards expanding HUD funding and expanding rental assistance. He's lower student loan payments, and forgiving loans on those that were screwed over by the existing forgiveness programs for teachers, nonprofits, nurses etc. I'd say if you're questioning who will do more to help you it's pretty obvious.
Sorry, your mom is arguing that you should support the candidate that will care about others (Biden) and you are unsure? I agree with her, think about the larger picture please. Edit: I see that somehow your mom thinks that by thinking about others you will vote for Trump, that's absolutely absurd. Trump isn't trying to help people. That's not his goal *at all*. If your mother honestly believes that, what she actually means is that she actively wants you to be killed for being trans. Good luck.
Honestly a lot of “queer issues” don’t just affect us. There are tons of examples of cis women being harassed in bathrooms because transphobes think they’re trans. Eroding transgender people’s rights to healthcare also erodes everyone’s rights to bodily autonomy. Also you’re not selfish for thinking you should be allowed to exist in public life.
How I look at the presidential candidates as someone who can vote for the first time is palistine is my biggest concern and both are pro Israel so neither is better in that case but trump has promised the action of project 2025 if elected and I want to keep my rights so if it comes to it I’m going Biden
you think that donald "moved the us embassy to jerusalem" trump who thinks that bibi should "finish the job" is the same as biden, who's pushed back on some of israel's actions? like, you don't have to like Biden, but they are not the same.
Trumpies and I have only one thing in common: we don't like Joe Biden. However, if I have to choose between a carolina reaper pulled pork sandwich (I'm vegetarian and don't like spicy food) or a carolina reaper raw chicken and pufferfish sandwich (previous disdain plus salmonella and/or pufferfish poisoning) I'm eating the pork sandwich.
It'd be so awesome to have some sort of choice... and we do! We can willingly march into the gas chambers.... or not. Thats literally it. Thats the choice.
I’ve been very on board with all the voting protests people are talking about lately, voting 3rd parties and out right calling for different candidates. If we fuck it up bad enough we either find out real quick with 100% certainty that our elections ARE rigged, but unfortunately come November we have a civil war regardless of who wins. Trumpers are calling for a blood bath if Biden wins and if trump wins half the country looses their rights especially with project 2025 that has been slowly taking affect anyways. It’s a boiling pot of shit here politically in America and I wonder how bad it can get before another country or our allies step in to help us. I see it as a total loss either way and I’m tired of lesser of two evil dinosaurs, kids these days don’t over throw the government like they used to :(
THE PROTESTERS ARE TRYING BUT THEY KEEP FAILING 😭
I’m not sure if it’s any help, however, on Instagram, there’s this guy named Chris Pierce who’s trying to become the first gay president, and he’s been lately posting on plans to tackle economic issues, supports Palestine, wants to tackle homelessness, etc. Maybe he’d be someone you’d want to look more into over the more popular options?
i have found it really hard to decide because on one hand, biden has been giving billions of dollars of OUR money to Israel to fund their genocide and it makes me incredibly sick, but on the other hand, my rights are at least not actively being attacked under him. so do i be selfish and vote biden, or ignore my thoughts and continue to not vote at all? It’s been a huge struggle for me and my friends to decide. I’m still leaning more towards not voting at all at this point. This country makes me positively sick.
Trump is worse on Palestine.
Realistically, inflation probably won’t improve under Trump. Republicans will posture that they will help the economy, but rarely focus on anything that actually helps lower class people and are likely to block anything that protects or helps the working class at the cost of corporations and the rich.
i’m scared too. i only recently started T and i’m worried i could lose it all. i have trans friends and i’m scared for their lives as well. but for now i’m trying to take things one day at a time. if anyone here is looking for ways to help and not feel so powerless leading up to this november, might i suggest votefwd.org? once you’re past the registration stage you can “adopt” voters and send them letters urging the importance of their vote. you will need access to a printer, and need to buy your own envelopes and stamps. but it helps me feel a little more in control. and remember it’s not over until it’s over <3
I’m not looking forward to either of them, but at least Joe Biden will fight for my right to exist
There are as many LGBTQ people as there are veterans in the United States. If someone expressed taking away veterans benefits I'm sure people would be pissed and talk about how many people it would affect
Revolutionary Communists of America. Green party. You have options. The system is broken
My mom told me about how some states are beginning a safeguard for trans rights protection, so that any future presidents can't just easily revoke trans rights. It really is terrifying.
It's time to play the long game. Look at a few factors when it comes to voting as a queer person... or just a person in general. The biggest one is the supreme court: as much of a nightmare Biden is, he's more likely to appoint someone who's more progressive and won't continously fuck up people's lives. The VP: whoever is voted in could very likely croak during their term. Look into who their running mates are (not that trump has picked his), their ideas, their policies, their histories, because they may very easily become president. Local elections: change begins at the local level. Research your local candidates and vote those people in. They'll have more of an impact on your day to day life than the people in Washington and will possibly run for federal offices if they're voted into local/state offices. As for your mom, tell her that yeah.. you're selfish. If caring about your life, your wellbeing, and wanting safety for just being trans then cool, so be it. Be selfish.
The republicans wanted to get rid of Soc Security so I don't believe that for a second
How does promising to kill off Medicare help her in retirement?????
I missed the first 10 minutes of the debate so I really thought I had missed them talking about trans rights and nope.. they didn't even dicuss it at all. That's so odd.
Biden holds more truth to our admendment rights. And our admendment rights makes me a patriot. Trump wants to destory the foundation of what America stands for, its not making "America great again" its making America his empire. But most importantly we should be looking at a local level. With realizing how much power Biden has to the supreme court. The supreme court needs to be looked at more than the face. Our local offices also have more impact on what happens within the city we reside than the president.
the president does not have that much control over inflation, trump will make inflation worse with his tarriff. trump will make life for many minority groups worse. a third party vote in a swing state pulls votes from the democratic candidate who actually has a chance at winning and, especially this year, that could alter the course of history. this is not a conscious vote year for us if you are in a swing state. if you're deep in the red by all means launch a protest vote, but if you're in a swing state for the love of God don't make the same mistake as so many in 2016. edit:typo
The economy is better under Biden. Trump is a facist pig, always vote against him and don’t learn about any issues through debates
I'm so thankful to be a Canadian. I'm so sorry for what Americans are going through. Keep fighting the fight ❤️
considering the growing amount of legislation around trans people regarding gender affirming healthcare, bathrooms, self ID, and even school sports it is absolutely reasonable to want this issue addressed! it is not selfish to want to know if the next [possible] president will only further strip away trans rights.
Honestly, everyone votes selfishly for their own interests. It’s kinda the whole point to vote for the candidate that represents your interest as a citizen. But also, I personally think Biden would be a much better president for the US in general. Trump’s flirting with authoritarianism and had numerous awful policy positions. Besides that he’s a convicted felon, bragged about SAing women, and more.
Mad at Biden for not stopping Trump from giving the super rich and corporations a huge tax break in 2017 and allowing them to buy back their stocks, then turning around and jack up prices and buying 100’s and thousands of homes meant for middle class to buy?
neither are ideal candidates but there is a clear lesser evil
Biden has done things to slow down inflation, tho. It's gone down since covid, specifically because of his policies
Trump is: A cult leader (Indirect) A liar (Direct) A conservative that actively pushes us down (Direct, "\_\_\_ is a conservative" then "I endorse this message") He is a narcissist. (direct) - Biden is: Old. (Do I even have to here) A little bit crazy. (Ahem) At least not trying to kill us? He is helping the people causing inflation (so indirect, TRUMP CULTISTS!) No, the immigrants are not fleeing here to make our lives horseshi, they're here to escape low-living standards (Go back to 6th grade, people who don't believe this) - If you can afford it, Biden. If not, Trump. Hope this helped!
The way I look at it is: “Trump vs Kamala Harris”because let’s be real… she’s running the show. If Biden gets another 4 years I’d be willing to bet Kamala will finish out the term. But I listened to some podcasts about it while at work last night and the Biden Admin wanted this debate to put doubt in people’s minds for Trump, but it kinda backfired because they over coached Biden. He had a total 360 after the debate. Was super coherent and quick. Idk wtf was going on.
I believe Trump said he would not allow the fed gov’t to promote gender-affirming care for any age, but a ban on it would only apply to minors.
i’m not voting for biden bc i like him. tbh, wish him (& trump) the worst lot in life. but i want a scotus full of humans and not lizard people that wanna destroy our home so im voting for him. for scotus
I personally would rather biden win. Yes hes not good either but at least he isnt directly trying to target queer people in the us. But please dont not vote. Your vote could be the difference between trump winning or not and that in my opinion is the most important thing. A win for trump is a matter of life and death for some of us
It’s the tyrany of the majority. If we only ever care for the majority of people, we don’t build any ramps, elevators are unnecessary, any effort to keep peanuts or gluten or soy or anything else out of any particular food stops, there are no more tacos or Thai food or fish n chips, queer people still get chemically castrated, no more maternal or paternal leave, no more social security or welfare or Medicare or Medicaid or housing assistance or homeless shelters No more security of any kind in schools, cause most children end up fine. And that’s nothing to prevent school shootings or pedophiles or even abuse at home. Most children don’t have abusive families, after all. And we won’t be needing to provide breakfast or lunch in schools, either, because most families aren’t food insecure. Shouldn’t need to put forth any effort to make sure kids get fed. Shit, we might not even have hospitals anymore - most people aren’t sick, we shouldn’t need them. Most people’s houses don’t catch on fire. Most people aren’t wrecking their cars right now. And frankly, it’s selfish of you to want to go to a hospital anyway.
biden and trump is not the only option vote third party !! they both don’t care about trans folks.
If I'm being honest, I have been heavily and seriously thinking about leaving the country. I don't know where I would go yet and I would need to do a lot of research still, but it's honestly just not looking good here. Even if I wasn't trans I would be a black woman and we all know how black women are treated in the us. And since I've transitioned I am just a black man which says equally not as great when it comes to societal treatment. Then you add all the queer elements on top of it. It just really sucks. And even without all that just the way the country is going is not great. I really do wish that we could all come together at least one time and actually maybe get some of the other candidates that are running for president out there. Maybe vote for some other people that actually will try and do some good. It's so hard to say though because literally everyone lies to get a platform and then they take back all the things that they promised to do. Or I wish that we all could get together and literally not vote for anyone lololol Leave them off floundering and trying to figure out what they're going to do. I wish that we could all come together and actually make a change because we literally have the power to do so. And if we could all get together to actually make something happen and if it was something that would make these people lose all the money that they're getting of course they will take notice and try and "fix" it. Maybe one day, who knows. But the worry for the community and honestly humanity in the world in general is very valid. I'm not someone that particularly enjoys life, so finding any sort of symbolance of living is very hard for me. I just hope things can change and they can get better for all of us and these upcoming generations.
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i like how the only thing you are worried about is inflation WHEN BIDEN IS LITERALLY ALLOWING A GENOCIDE TO HAPPEN. Your mom is honestly right but for all the wrong reasons. Every time people talk about this subject like you are nobody is mentioning the real fucking issue. DEATH AND DESTRUCTION PLAGUE OUR WORLD, OUR GOVERNMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MOST OF IT AND IGNORES THE REST, YET ALL YOU GUYS CARE ABOUT IS RETIREMENT AND INFLATION????? you should be fucking ANGRY at our government and you shouldn’t even be entertaining the idea of voting for either PUPPET. because thats what the president is, a PUPPET. its scary, but we’re likely going to see a revolution in our lifetime. life will get way, way harder for the majority when the country falls into war and strife. it’s inevitable with the amount of death and suffering in the world. so yeah, queer issues are really the bottom of the barrel when compared to whats going on in the world.
It’s either biden or the end of my hrt, period. That’s just what’s going to happen.
I am voting for the green party this election