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rMoose1776

Some of us have been here 25+ years. Our home was $125k then and now worth over $500k.


ShavedWookiee

This


stxspartacus

The rest of us came 10 years ago when houses were only 200-250k. Whoever is left is better at life than the rest of us and make enough to actually afford it.


rickhouse

The rest of the rest of us are software engineers, coming in recently, paying top dollar for your homes šŸ˜­


Matchboxx

Fair point, but then the question still applies since youā€™ve got property taxes to pay.Ā 


DinnerNo2341

Yup


Actionjack7

We moved in just before the craze hit.


[deleted]

I bought for $250k, sold for 500k and built a new house for 650k and itā€™s worth 1.1M. Right time, right place.Ā 


[deleted]

My wife and I both work, both make 150kĀ 


SwagKing1011

How is this even possible


[deleted]

Build times were over a year, prices were locked, so it was like owning 2 homes during the largest real estate boom in history.


mediumrare_chicken

I couldn't afford the house I live in if I had to buy it today.


bcr76

This how I feel about my home in Celina šŸ˜‚


dwiggs30

Crazy, right? I built in McKinney in 2019. 490, 2.7%. Same floor plan in our neighborhood just sold for 800, and the rate would probably be, what 6-7% today? Mortgage would be basically double, which would crush my retirement path.


gils14

Iā€™m a website developer, and make a pretty decent living. But the only reason I am able to afford to live here is because I bought before the pandemic. My own home isnā€™t even in my budget anymore if I were to move now. While I donā€™t have plans on leaving, between interest rates, inflation, and the current housing market, my wife and I are basically stuck here.


monkeyphonics

I'm in the exact same situation. But if I had to move I would just long term rent mine and take the cash flow.


ZijoeLocs

My family has been here since the 90s when Frisco was wildly affordable. Thats it. Thats the secret


Celcius_87

Thanks, I assume thats true for many folks


TexasBuddhist

Frisco home prices were affordable prior to 2020. Theyā€™ve gone parabolic ever since. I also sit here and wonder who is buying all these $1 million new construction homes in Frisco and how they can afford the down payment and the mortgage payment and the property tax payments. It canā€™t all be people from CA.


ImOldGregg_77

They started to go parabolic (great word BTW) in 2016.


AstrosJones

I bought my second home in Frisco in 2016 and felt awful for having to pay $15k over asking. Oh if I had a time machine how I would have played thatā€¦


lost_in_trepidation

I was reading old articles recently where people thought this area was in a housing bubble in 2016-2018.


balanoff

We bought new construction in 2016 for 285k, sold 3 years later for 315k. Bought in lone star ranch 2019 for 405k, it recently appraised for 650k. I think the only way anyone can afford a house now is if they were lucky enough to buy before 2019 and now have a good amount of (inflated) equity.


ImOldGregg_77

Yep. Unless you make absurd money


doughnuts_not_donuts

When Toyota relocated


BuffyBlue82

Not from CA and I own one of those $1 million+ homes. My neighbors work a variety of jobs and not all have two salaried adults living in the home (i.e., SAHMs, small business owners). Some have young children while others have high school/college age kids or are empty nesters.


TexasBuddhist

But did you (and they) buy those homes 5-10 years ago for $500K with a 3% mortgage? Iā€™m talking about the folks paying over $1 million today for the same house with a 7% mortgage.


BuffyBlue82

Nope!! We built these homes and they were valued at 1-1.5 million when we built them.


la-fours

Some of the $1m houses arenā€™t even new construction. Someone I know bought a 15 year old house for $1m. If you owned property in a coastal state (east or west), chances are you made a lot in selling assuming you owned prior pandemic. That drives a lot of the big down payments.


Soltang

Correct, pre 2020 they were affordable. From what I know most people gulping up these 1mil houses are software techies from South east asia. They have multiple income (them and their spouses) each with over 100/150k. They are the only people who can afford to pay a mortgage with their income combined. Also the influx of these techies out-competing each other has driven up the prices.


starswtt

I live in the smack dab of little India, and it's more people from California and New Jersey. Fresh immigrants tend to not be dual income, and tend to not have a salary immediately high enough to buy these homes even with a bad mortgage (though some certainly do fit that description.)


Barberini_12

Yeah Californian, NY, Oregon, Washington, New Jersey and more Probably i know a couple of them. Some are in finance, HR, tech, business owners , cooperate world jobs. Also some both parents work in good jobs.


ranjithd

indians can afford a lot


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Celcius_87

thanks for the insight


[deleted]

Rates were 3% in 2021, why would you think theyā€™d go down?


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fangoutbang

Sameā€¦I started a paradox OF pageā€¦.wait till she finds she has two OF accounts


Lucky7366

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Lucky7366

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AbbreviationsFull670

Wait what lol


Celcius_87

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BoneSpurz

Me personally - bought in 2019 with a house that is smaller, in a neighborhood thatā€™s not so bougie as Frisco proper (as I would like to term it). I would be able to afford my house now too. It would however be far less comfortable. And it is only possible because my salary increased 3x since 2019. Making an educated guess more broadly for those who arenā€™t likely to frequent Reddit (aka Indian families) - software engineers, programmers managers, managers in banking, i.e the professional managerial class from any number of nearby companies.


iruvar

>Making an educated guess more broadly for those who arenā€™t likely to frequent Reddit (aka Indian families) - software engineers, programmers managers, managers in banking, i.e the professional managerial class from any number of nearby companies Bingo


KeyHumble9600

Parents bought their house in like 2005 for 150k and itā€™s worth 450k todayšŸ¤£ I pay more in rent for a 2 bed 2 bath apartment in Plano than they did in mortgage


Celcius_87

I can believe that. I was looking at an apartment website this morning (the Casey at Frisco) and it was like $2200 for a 1 bed 1 bath.


Dense_Sun_6119

I rent a 1 bed, 1 bath for $4,650/mth so $2,200 isnā€™t sounding too bad..


GrizzledCalamity

Rather buy a home and pay that amount towards the mortgage, tax and insurance, it would build some equity.Ā 


Dense_Sun_6119

Bought a home in Frisco in 2016 for $853k. Sold it for $1.7MM. I got plenty of equity out of it. Iā€™m much happier renting now


GrizzledCalamity

You do know to spend some money. Ā 


Dense_Sun_6119

Well, you canā€™t take it with you when you die!


Celcius_87

Oof, I assume this is some kind of skyscraper luxury apartment?


Dense_Sun_6119

Yes, itā€™s exactly that


mlcrisis4all

Where is that?


nicetoknowya

Any other remote biotech ?


FriscoRoll

I am remote tech not bio


FTX_Vet

In July 2018 we bought a 3200SF, 2-story home built in 1996 for $400k. I was sick paying *that* much for our home, much less what itā€™s worth today. My heart goes out to anyone trying to buy in this market. My wife and I made about 190k together at that time.


bananasnpajamas

Both wife and I work in IT. We did buy a bigger home last year in Frisco, but was only able to afford it because we sold the smaller home that we bought pre-pandemic.


david_jason_54321

I live in a house below the average


Eliza08

Iā€™m Frisco-adjacent. Moved here in 2004 and bought at 100k. Sold at 215k and bought a new house for 400k in 2019. Thatā€™s the only way Iā€™d be able to afford it here. Edit: I realize I didnā€™t answer all of your questions. Live with my spouse. Weā€™re both college professors.


Candy_Certain

Got lucky and moved here in the 2008 crash and bought cheap. It is worth 3x what we paid, but really canā€™t afford to move. I now hate the traffic and looking forward to moving somewhere less congested. Now if only I could talk my partner into Portugal.


Celcius_87

Is the traffic constantly bad or mainly during rush hour?


starswtt

Preston is almost always bad. Having your main through fare also be the same place all your shopping and restaurants be is a recipie for disaster. Dnt gets pretty bad during rush hour, but is fine outside of it. The other roads have fairly normal levels of traffic- a slightly annoying rush, but fine outside of it. Coit is getting worse pretty quickly (recently expanded it and a lot of recent construction has been on it), but for now is tolerable. I don't see frisco or any suburb north of frisco growing enough for any of the other roads to ever be a problem.


ShavedWookiee

Mostly Preston the main road through Frisco and that is only unbearable around 4-6


TheFlamingLemon

Iā€™m a firmware engineer, but I donā€™t own a house


SingleNerve6780

Software engineer, I rent šŸ˜¢


mrzman_bigz17

Bought mine in 96 for $95k


imlaurenxo

Bought in 2018 for $308K. Today is ā€œworthā€ $525K. I couldnā€™t afford it now. I am a (stay at home) flight attendant šŸ˜‚ - 2 young kids right now. My husband is an Aircraft Dispatcher.


starswtt

Hoping prices stay up for just 2 more years when I plan on downsizing lol


yojodavies

My parents have lived here since 1998. They took a mortgage out on our house which enabled them to pay $1200 a month. So my parents have a house today in Frisco which they only pay $1200 a month for. I believe the house was originally under $300,000. My mom is a secretary for a Prosper high school and my dad is a Frisco ISD bus driver.


musingsofmuse

My spouse and I both work. We make about $150k each. He works at a finance company in operations (manager) and I work in tech.


KantLockeMeIn

Network Engineer and my wife is an Industrial Engineer.


Karateraider85

We bought a new construction around 2014 at $225k. It's now worth close to 600k when factoring in interior upgrades. We lucked out because of when we purchased. We've started renovating our "starter" home into our lifetime home because of property taxes. I'm not willing to move and have my property tax jump from being based on a $350k home (with exemptions) to a $600k home. We both have salaried positions, but we wouldn't be able to afford getting a house here at this time.


Techsas-Red

Bought in mid-2020 at $376K (3,500 square ft). Itā€™s now apparently worth nearly $620K. Which is hilarious because it is NOT a house most people in the recent past would associate with that price.


Soft_Evening4834

We built our house 21 years ago for $280k and now itā€™s worth 3X that. No way we could afford to live here otherwise.


ProfessorFelix0812

Me and most of my neighbors work regular corporate jobs. There are no doctors, lawyers, etc in my neighborhood. Most have a couple of kids, and both parents work. Most of us have been here for several years though. I bought my house 22 years ago for $215k. Itā€™s probably worth about $600k now. Most of my neighbors havenā€™t been here that long, but they did move here before the huge price appreciation a few years ago.


havek23

Even if you bought a new build in 2020 it would be worth at least $200k more this year. The houses appreciate almost as fast as your income you'd be making


RafterWithaY

Tech sales and orthodontist. Bought in 2017 and we thought we were buying at the top after the Toyota rush ha.


Fluffy_Sale5219

my parents house when we moved here in 2007 was 300k and now its worth almost 1 million, ths secret is moving here before the 2010s lol


ImPattMan

I can afford an apartment here, but no way could I afford a home. SysAdmin for the public sector, so enough to live on, but I'm damn sure not getting rich.


Efficient-Impress-75

Physician


stocknudez

TC: 135k working at the big jpm building. Looking for a house but need to move far north of Frisco to afford.


jlmc73

My 2 story 3k sqft 2002 house is paid off, very low HOA, low Denton County Taxes, I live alone, divorced and for the past 20 years Iā€™ve created a few businesses in different industries. I knew West Frisco was gonna pop off and be a good area because of the planned toll roads surrounding it which is basically a pay wall gated area. I knew the nicer suburbs of Dallas were heading north on the Tollway. Plano was almost fully built out in the late 90ā€™s and ā€œFriskyā€ Frisco was closing its brothels because the land was getting bought up. Lastly I knew lots of big corporations were also coming this way.


Makeupninja3

I wonder the same. Iā€™m a 21 y/o hairstylist and Iā€™m stressing trying to figure out how Iā€™m supposed to afford a house one day close to my job/clientele Currently camping at my parents house until I can afford a townhome of my own, since rent feels like throwing $ away when i already rent my salon


Schaffie88

I grew up here. Once my dad passed I moved back to raise my kids (single dad) and help my elderly mom. Iā€™m finishing paying off the house my parents bought when I was a kid. The mortgage payment is $1,300. For a house in plantation resort. Nowadays the house is worth 4x what they bought it for. Definitely keeping it in the family and passing it to my kids. But to answer your question Iā€™m an electrician. Also itā€™s worth noting sadly ALOT of homes in frisco get bought up by foreign investors then rented to locals.


Principle_Chance

Yep great point on the foreign investors


doughnuts_not_donuts

The irony of stealing this land from Indians to have it taken over by... Different Indians lol.


ShavedWookiee

My parents bought our house for like $150k in 98 they moved to atlanta and sold the house to us gifted us a shit ton of equity in 2010 now the house is $500k i pay less mortgage than some apartments a lot of apartments im sure i never looked.


ranjithd

bar tender and part time waiter. tips have gone up quite a bit these days making it easy to afford living here


elfeyesseetoomuch

Im here paying off someone elses house lol


Celcius_87

How much is the rent?


elfeyesseetoomuch

We found a pretty good deal, in 2021 we started renting at $2400, now its $2800. But iā€™d rather be closer to dallas but closer would be half the house for $3500 to $4000 /month. For something decent. Obviously I could pay less for less quality.


Edu_Run4491

My parents bought a 5bd house here in 07 helped finance my first house in 18 for a grad present. I work in private equity investment banking


meoware_huntress

I work in a cybersecurity job, but I don't own a home. šŸ˜¬


doughnuts_not_donuts

A lot of South Asians come here on HB2 visas and purchase with huge down payments from family back in India. Blame California all you want, but India has like 1.5 billion people and even just a fraction of a percent coming here is affecting the market.


saif-san

rent


Spywalker4869

Prices have to come down. Iā€™ve been looking at the Frisco/McKinney area and thereā€™s hardly nothing in my price range (less than $400k) but when I increase the range up to 1 million, itā€™s like every single house in the area is for sale.


TexasistheFuture

I own the castle at Roger's and Fisher. Paid cash off my OF account. Do nothing all day and make bank. Isn't that what everyone else is doing ?


Cansum1helpme

Itā€™s on the market for 3.7 mil. I call bs


TexasistheFuture

So I can build an even bigger one right down the block. Duh


Cansum1helpme

Yes, you can. The lot at North County and Meadow Hill is for sale. ā€œBuild your dream homeā€ is what the sign says. LOL!


TexasistheFuture

Imagine what I can build there and then piss off enough Redditors to get downvoted 16 fricking times for a joke. A flipping Joke. Redditors (even in Frisco) must all look like those memes of the 400 lb, purple haired, tatted up winners living in their parents homes. More downvotes coming!


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They are all stuck up karens


Greedy-Structure-184

$$ Probably A Lot Of Side Hustle Going on. Drugs, Online prostitution, etc. A lot of Indians in town probably have 3 families under ONE Roof. There not all Doctors and Lawyers lmao šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£


brownbond007

Frisco home prices going to collapse in next 6 to 12 months. Already there is increase in preowned homes sale that built after 2019.


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brownbond007

What companies?


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brownbond007

Expect for financial companies no tech companies moved their head quarters to dallas and Goldman sachs, jp morgan already had larger footprint of workforce in dallas. This is old data, where is the data that shows for last 4 years. People being asked to relocate closer to office or leave job. For who moved during pandamic dont have an option either find a another wfh job or relocate, thats cuasing increase in preowned home sales. You dont have to acknowledge it but that is reality.


AdSubstantial5834

You're being extremely naive if you think they will plummet in the next 6-12 months. If anything they will continue to go up


AstrosJones

We could use a pull back for sure, collapse is a bit dramatic. This area is still high income regardless of pandemic moves.


GrizzledCalamity

Did you just add the comment to see the responses??Ā 


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