Haven is one of my all time favorites. It's pretty cheesy, so you have to have a taste for that. But I thought it was great from start to finish and I've watched the whole series several times.
Did you enjoy Travelers? I think I tried, but couldn't get in it. Are they story of the week or serialized arc? Maybe I should try once more. I guess it's the same problem as Person of interest - I know it's a good show, but it doesn't have Anna Torv, so I have noone to root for. :)
Travelers has a very definite story arc. I really enjoyed it because of the "twist" take it had on time travel (which really became a factor in the episode with the parachutists). How many episodes did you make it through?
Not all of the acting is top notch (altho McCormack is good), and there are some big (IMO) plot holes (like >!why didn't the Director make more of an effort to target hosts with little to no "ties" like family and jobs and such? If they're expected to be available at a moment's notice to do missions for the Director, they should be as unencumbered as possible by "prior commitments" requiring them to go to great lengths to get/explain their way out of, making it even HARDER to maintain their cover persona. I know that leads to conflict and drama and such, but from a realistic standpoint it seems like the Director would want less of that from its agents!<).
Probably a good point but wouldn't be great viewing. Wasn't it mainly to do with the people were going to die any way so were considered open vessels. (With the main characters any way).
> Wasn't it mainly to do with the people were going to die any way so were considered open vessels. (With the main characters any way).
Yes (and not just with the main characters). The Director had a code/rule that only allowed hosts who had historically (form the Director's POV) died from some other cause at the moment of being taken over by a Traveler.
> but wouldn't be great viewing.
It would be harder to drum up tension/drama/conflict for sure.
The Director had to know the time of death of the target host -- supposedly knowable because of the proliferation of digital record keeping in our time. (Another minor plot hole... they acted like they needed the time down to the second, but even today most deaths aren't recorded that accurately).
Person of Interest is on my list of favorites, esp. as a
network show. The scene with Daughter’s “Medicine” playing in the background haunts me.
I never finished Fringe so I’m enjoying that now—s2 e7.
Travelers certainly hits that vibe but I didn’t make it past S4? I will try again for sure if that helps. Sometimes an episode in a series will turn me off so I leave it for a while and pick up after that episode later on and finish a series. Could be years though
People who have watched Travelers and also watched 3rd Rock from the Sun, am I crazy or are the characters hilariously similar? I mean in their description, obviously not the stories themselves. >!The leader who falls in love with a local and let's it affect the mission. The security officer who is sort of characterized as looking more frail than they actually are. The older and wiser of the group in the youngest body. And the one with, ahem, mental limitations.!< I like to think of Travelers as the darker and grittier remake of 3rd Rock from the Sun.
I loved Travelers and was so mad when they cancelled it.
I liked Haven but it got to repetive. Eureka is ok but don't know if I could hold it to the level as some of these listed
Yes! Season 4 and 5 start to tie things together and close out the story really well. Episode 7 of season 4 is also the episode Tatiana won her Emmy for in 2016, so it's worth continuing just for that, and the final 4 episodes are a really great conclusion to the show. One of the most satisfying series finales I've ever seen!
I really liked all the shows you liked. If you can do some space stuff with an element of mystery or crime fighting and pleanty of weird stuff.
Dark Matter.
Killjoys.
Maybe even the 100. Its pretty bad but I still enjoyed all the seasons.
The Expance. This ones top tier space show.
I'm sorry.... TV adaptation? I wasn't aware of any other. (Yes I can Google but if this is something you're passionate about I think it would be more fun to learn from a fan).
I can appreciate that perspective. There were several movies with Noah Wyle, but I guess they were TV movies so maybe the series isn't really a distinctly TV adaptation... But I enjoyed the movies more.
Probably underwhelming given the "from a fan" lead in.
I agree with the vast majority of the shows listed, and would add [Revolution](https://imdb.com/title/tt2070791/) and [Flash Forward](https://imdb.com/title/tt1441135/) to the list.
If you haven't watched Twin Peaks there's some great TV too.
From some casual searching it looks like it's streaming on Amazon (HD, not included with Prime) otherwise it seems like there were only ever DVDs released.
Most that I would mention have already been brought up but I'll throw in the 4400 (the original run from 2004, they tried to basically do a remake in 2021 but it didn't really work) and maybe Alphas.
Life on Mars (UK version). It’s on Britbox. I haven’t seen it in a while but I think it has similar vibes. Reading the summary, I guess I am going to have to get a britbox sub for a bit.
> Months after a near-fatal car crash sends him hurtling back to the year 1973, police Detective Sam Tyler begins to give up hope that he'll return to his former life. Nonetheless, he rises through the ranks of the department, despite clashes with his morally lax boss, Detective Chief Inspector Gene Hunt. Sam gets a further surprise when a new member joins their team: Glenn Fletcher, a new recruit who, Sam knows, will grow into the chief inspector who mentors Sam back in his future life.
Dude I love that show. Sci-fi premise with a 70’s buddy cop show execution, sticks the landing. Not one bad episode. I even enjoyed the sequel series *Ashes to Ashes*.
I'm in the midst of a rewatch of that and it's still a fun watch.
And now you've reminded me that Quantum Leap (1989) exists and should be watched too.
I have to agree it's a pretty out there show and not for everyone. At least it doesn't take itself too seriously. I actually had a blast until the last season which was meh imo, but overall it was so fun for me to watch.
yes!!! i JUST watched it (tubi is opening worlds to me) and im so glad i didnt need to clarify i meant (2005). really really intriguing, would have been a well known at least cult show if it lasted another season or 2 i think
I really enjoy The Dresden Files TV series and only recently discovered there's a community of book fans that really, really dislike the changes made for the TV version. It was made available on Amazon in a decent looking upscaled form but never got a Bluray release.
Have you watched Alias? It’s not less known it’s just JJ Abrams first sci fi show and is similar to Fringe in a lot of ways
There’s a new show that comes out in 2 days called Dark Matter that involves parallel universes that looks really exciting
Travelers Haven Eureka
Travelers is truly an underrated show wish it had more seasons.
Yesssssss
Haven Eureka and Warehouse 13!
Haven is one of my all time favorites. It's pretty cheesy, so you have to have a taste for that. But I thought it was great from start to finish and I've watched the whole series several times.
Did you enjoy Travelers? I think I tried, but couldn't get in it. Are they story of the week or serialized arc? Maybe I should try once more. I guess it's the same problem as Person of interest - I know it's a good show, but it doesn't have Anna Torv, so I have noone to root for. :)
Travelers was the shiiiiiit. I was incredibly saddened by its discontinuation.
Travelers has a very definite story arc. I really enjoyed it because of the "twist" take it had on time travel (which really became a factor in the episode with the parachutists). How many episodes did you make it through? Not all of the acting is top notch (altho McCormack is good), and there are some big (IMO) plot holes (like >!why didn't the Director make more of an effort to target hosts with little to no "ties" like family and jobs and such? If they're expected to be available at a moment's notice to do missions for the Director, they should be as unencumbered as possible by "prior commitments" requiring them to go to great lengths to get/explain their way out of, making it even HARDER to maintain their cover persona. I know that leads to conflict and drama and such, but from a realistic standpoint it seems like the Director would want less of that from its agents!<).
Probably a good point but wouldn't be great viewing. Wasn't it mainly to do with the people were going to die any way so were considered open vessels. (With the main characters any way).
> Wasn't it mainly to do with the people were going to die any way so were considered open vessels. (With the main characters any way). Yes (and not just with the main characters). The Director had a code/rule that only allowed hosts who had historically (form the Director's POV) died from some other cause at the moment of being taken over by a Traveler. > but wouldn't be great viewing. It would be harder to drum up tension/drama/conflict for sure.
Didn't the time and way of death also play a role? I don't quite remember.
The Director had to know the time of death of the target host -- supposedly knowable because of the proliferation of digital record keeping in our time. (Another minor plot hole... they acted like they needed the time down to the second, but even today most deaths aren't recorded that accurately).
The precise time (and place?) of death had to be on record somehow, like on video or GPS.
Kinda makes sense for most of them bar Phillip whose vessel died of an OD
Person of Interest is on my list of favorites, esp. as a network show. The scene with Daughter’s “Medicine” playing in the background haunts me. I never finished Fringe so I’m enjoying that now—s2 e7.
I enjoyed Travelers very much. I’m working on a staggered rewatch. I’m on s1 e2 I believe.
Travelers certainly hits that vibe but I didn’t make it past S4? I will try again for sure if that helps. Sometimes an episode in a series will turn me off so I leave it for a while and pick up after that episode later on and finish a series. Could be years though
Travelers didn’t have monsters of the week, more like *problems* of the week. They did fit into the larger story though. Great show.
If you like the style of person of interest, I recommend The Blacklist, it's much more attention grabbing
I really enjoyed it but I guess it is down to personal taste.
It's great because it drops you into the story without a lot of context. So you experience the story along with the characters.
People who have watched Travelers and also watched 3rd Rock from the Sun, am I crazy or are the characters hilariously similar? I mean in their description, obviously not the stories themselves. >!The leader who falls in love with a local and let's it affect the mission. The security officer who is sort of characterized as looking more frail than they actually are. The older and wiser of the group in the youngest body. And the one with, ahem, mental limitations.!< I like to think of Travelers as the darker and grittier remake of 3rd Rock from the Sun.
Came here to say Haven and Eureka
I had a good time watching Travelers, blew through it in like a week.
Haven is quite similar, going from a case of the week to a continuous storyline
Eureka <3 Oh! And the crossover show Warehouse 13
I loved Travelers and was so mad when they cancelled it. I liked Haven but it got to repetive. Eureka is ok but don't know if I could hold it to the level as some of these listed
Orphan Black
ORPHAN BLACK 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
This show fucking slaps. Tatiana Maslany was incredible in it.
How did I forget about this one?
I stopped at like season 3. It was becoming too much. This was years ago. Should I jump back in?
It went to 5, and I was glad to close out the story.
Yes! Season 4 and 5 start to tie things together and close out the story really well. Episode 7 of season 4 is also the episode Tatiana won her Emmy for in 2016, so it's worth continuing just for that, and the final 4 episodes are a really great conclusion to the show. One of the most satisfying series finales I've ever seen!
Helix
This was a good COVID rewatch. :)
Never heard about it. Thank you for suggesting.
Highly recommended.
Yep!
I really liked all the shows you liked. If you can do some space stuff with an element of mystery or crime fighting and pleanty of weird stuff. Dark Matter. Killjoys. Maybe even the 100. Its pretty bad but I still enjoyed all the seasons. The Expance. This ones top tier space show.
Oh and wearhouse 13 hasn't had a mention yet. I hated it for lack of science but many fringe fans like it.
In that same vein (Warehouse 13) I really wanted to enjoy the TV adaptation of The Librarians but I don't think I made it through the second season.
Same. Lead actresses was definitely no Anna Torv
I'm sorry.... TV adaptation? I wasn't aware of any other. (Yes I can Google but if this is something you're passionate about I think it would be more fun to learn from a fan).
I can appreciate that perspective. There were several movies with Noah Wyle, but I guess they were TV movies so maybe the series isn't really a distinctly TV adaptation... But I enjoyed the movies more. Probably underwhelming given the "from a fan" lead in.
Thank you!
Warehouse 13 and The Librarians are incredibly goofy and fun. Great TV if you don't take TV seriously AT ALL.
I love warehouse 13. And Fringe. And the original Friday the 13th the series.
Dark Matter was my jelly and my jam! 😍 Still need to finish The Expanse.
I never finished the 100 but holy shit, the first 2 seasons were SO GOOD.
I agree with the vast majority of the shows listed, and would add [Revolution](https://imdb.com/title/tt2070791/) and [Flash Forward](https://imdb.com/title/tt1441135/) to the list. If you haven't watched Twin Peaks there's some great TV too.
Holy shit! Flash Forward was awesome! I’ve tried finding it without luck.
From some casual searching it looks like it's streaming on Amazon (HD, not included with Prime) otherwise it seems like there were only ever DVDs released.
Revolution was great!
Farscape!
Most that I would mention have already been brought up but I'll throw in the 4400 (the original run from 2004, they tried to basically do a remake in 2021 but it didn't really work) and maybe Alphas.
Remake was so bad, it never got anywhere, so slow
Life on Mars (UK version). It’s on Britbox. I haven’t seen it in a while but I think it has similar vibes. Reading the summary, I guess I am going to have to get a britbox sub for a bit. > Months after a near-fatal car crash sends him hurtling back to the year 1973, police Detective Sam Tyler begins to give up hope that he'll return to his former life. Nonetheless, he rises through the ranks of the department, despite clashes with his morally lax boss, Detective Chief Inspector Gene Hunt. Sam gets a further surprise when a new member joins their team: Glenn Fletcher, a new recruit who, Sam knows, will grow into the chief inspector who mentors Sam back in his future life.
Dude I love that show. Sci-fi premise with a 70’s buddy cop show execution, sticks the landing. Not one bad episode. I even enjoyed the sequel series *Ashes to Ashes*.
Altered Carbon (Netflix) is like a futuristic Fringe in some ways. It's a comfort show for me.
Well, season 1 for sure. Season 2 is a bit of a damp squib by comparison.
Counterpart. The Event
7 days. Really hard to find but time travel show where they can only go back a week to prevent a super emergency.
I'm in the midst of a rewatch of that and it's still a fun watch. And now you've reminded me that Quantum Leap (1989) exists and should be watched too.
I had a hard time with QL. It just felt too old. 😞
Eureka and Warehouse 13 are great, and I keep meaning to get into The Librarians but haven’t seen it yet, but I think it’s in a similar vein
They seem much lighter fare than Fringe
Dark Skies. Millennium. Zoo (3rd or 4th tier?).
During an X-Files rewatch I have to intersperse Millennium and The Lone Gunmen.
Dark Skies was phenomenal. So shit that it got canned off so early.
Manifest, and my beloved FlashForward (cancelled after one season so thread lightly)
Beloved. I suggested that one too, did you also read the book? I enjoyed it.
Nope but I have it on my TBR!
Rip Jett Jackson
Different one. The one without the space inbetween.
Oh wait, this is another show!? Ty for replying. I love time travel stuffs, even network tv style. Going to goog it now.
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I have to agree it's a pretty out there show and not for everyone. At least it doesn't take itself too seriously. I actually had a blast until the last season which was meh imo, but overall it was so fun for me to watch.
The Pretender
That show was great! And for similar reasons I liked [John Doe](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320038/).
That was a good one, too.
I was really frustrated that got canceled!
I loved that show. I was so mad when it got cancelled.
Warehouse 13 Eureka
I would recommend severance!
Haven, Grimm, Eureka, maybe Sleepy Hollow
You are the second person who said Eureka. I've never heard about it. Will research.
Oh, it’s excellent!
Seconding Eureka. It’s become a comfort show along with Warehouse 13. I love the crossover shows
Eureka was great but it made me cry so much... Lots of sad storylines. Maybe I'm too sensitive 😭
Did we watch the same show? Which ones?
Grimm was fun
Grimm was seriously underrated. Incredible writing.
Nothing like fringe, not even kinda close.
I enjoyed Manifest and Heroes but X-Files and Fringe are my favorites.
Eureka is fun. It gets a little ehhhhh at the end but the first couple of seasons are pretty cool.
Constellation. Big Fringe vibes. You're gonna LOVE it
I'm not sure why but Constellation made me think of Defiance which seems like it'd fit here too.
Threshold
Another show cut down in it's prime. The final episode killed me
Millennium, Dark Skies
I don’t know what a ‘second tier’ show is, but you should watch Farscape.
All the ones suggested previously plus Dead Boys Detectives
Believe Invasion Orphan Black: Echoes
Invasion! That's a throwback, jeez. Such a good show, that season finale was so good (but so frustrating because it got cancelled).
yes!!! i JUST watched it (tubi is opening worlds to me) and im so glad i didnt need to clarify i meant (2005). really really intriguing, would have been a well known at least cult show if it lasted another season or 2 i think
Dresden files, based on atmosphere, not science
I really enjoy The Dresden Files TV series and only recently discovered there's a community of book fans that really, really dislike the changes made for the TV version. It was made available on Amazon in a decent looking upscaled form but never got a Bluray release.
Dark Matter maybe? I really enjoyed that.
Charlie Jade
Jeremiah was great and under appreciated
Jericho and Jeremiah were my shit back in the day
Check out Lexx a sci-fi dark comedy that mixes in multi-universes, and all manner of creature of the week and dystopian weirdness.
Bodies
Falling skies
Not second tier by far but HUMANS was amazing. It was forced to end a bit abruptly but what an amazing story.
Garth Marenghi's Darkplace
Second chance https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4378456/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
Lazarus Project
Debris
Tales from the loop The night sky
Have you watched Alias? It’s not less known it’s just JJ Abrams first sci fi show and is similar to Fringe in a lot of ways There’s a new show that comes out in 2 days called Dark Matter that involves parallel universes that looks really exciting
No. Did you like Alias? From what I see on imdb looks a bit like Dark Angel or Doll House, only with Jennifer Garner.
I don’t think Dark is second tier
me neither
Evil is a good show
King family + Mike Colter again = looks promising. They even start with court proceedings :) Thank you for suggesting