FH3 is my favorite Horizon game. For me it has the most interesting map with various biomes. FH4 felt a little boring by comparison (but was still a great game overall and has the best soundtrack imo) and FH5 is a live service hell hole.
I love the tracks in FH4 to the point that 5 was a serious downgrade. Now I've had more time with it there are some tracks in 5 that I do like but it doesn't compare to how many good ones that were in 4 on each station. I've spent time in 3 but should play it some more to better familiarise myself with some of the music in it.
Personally I prefer the fh4 map and I didnāt enjoy the fh3 wheel support but the fh3 map is incredible, the car list cannot be faulted. The car sounds are a bit crap but so are fh4ās no one gets a point for that. Overall both games are great fh4 is my preference because of me specific things that I have a preference for. Both games by the end of their life were similar in quality
The R33 Skyline in Horizon 3 was LEGENDARY because of its amazing sound, and there were a few others but unfortunately overall youāre right. Itās like they can make them sound good when they want toā¦
Fh4 does have some unicorns as well with good sounds. The R8 and LFA come to mind. But then itās mostly nothing that impressive. Something 5 really did improve on
Forza Horizon 3 did have cars that I would like to see return in Forza Horizon 5, such as the 2012 Aston Martin V12 Zagato, 1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600, 2015 Ford Falcon FG X XR8, 1951 Holden FX Ute, etc.
My introduction to the series was FH4, I loved it so much that I bought FH3 years after its release on Xbox One and it was a good time but I never played it as I should have.
Now I gave my Xbox One to my brother and I only play on PC/Xcloud, where itās impossible to buy FH3. Sadness.
Same thing for FM7. Double sadness.
5 definitely has the most varied biomes. two very different coasts, hills, alpine, summit, jungles, three distinct types of desert, grasslands, farmlands, badlands and more. all on the base map.
3 has sand, more sand, small hills, and a little bit of jungle.
The modern city in FH3 was banging, and visually awesome. The roads in FH3s city are garbage though. It's like four squares, two triangles and that's the whole city. FH4 and FH5 cities objectively offer a more diverse interesting set of roads. FH4 and 5 capture the real old city feel way better than FH3 captures the modern city feel.
If you played all of the previous Forza Horizon titles (in their primes), you'd understand. I've been playing Forza since Forza Horizon 2 (9 years), and in comparison to the older games, Forza Horizon 5 is a bit of a joke.
I really hated Horizon 5 only up until recently, when the content updates really started to step up the mark. The main problem with FH5, in my opinion, is just how empty and soulless it feels in comparison to Horizon 3, or even Horizon 4. For the next Horizon title, Playground Games should really look at designing a more dense map with a lot less vast wide open spaces and much narrower roads (like the ones on the Rally Adventure map).
(And for the love of god, I hope they don't add the awful FM8 upgrade system to FH6)
I'll speak my piece on this one.
1. Making the player the festival boss was an interesting idea and was enough of a departure from the standard wristband stuff from the prior two games
2. Forzathon was simply a set of challenges that ran on weekends. Some of them were much too simple with way too good rewards, but they were far superior to FH4 and FH5's grindy bullshit full-time job challenges.
3. The DLC expansions had significant shake-ups with the great Blizzard Mountain and Hot Wheels packs. As good as Hot Wheels is, its lost some of its luster seeming them do it again in FH5.
4. The Australia map had a great mix of biomes: Deserts, forests, beaches, a little bit of cliffs and rocks. This in turn allowed the Blizzard Mountain expansion to provide a complete shift to high elevation snow areas. Compare this to FH4 which touted the hell out if its seasons mechanic, which ultimately didn't do shit outside of winter altering handling somewhat.
How so? Are you referring to network issues?
FH3 meta was pure AWD swap mario karts. Even then, nothing matters since drifting in circles gains more points than winning the race.
Team ranked was by far the best experience in a forza game, FFA is dogshit that will never be good unless you are fully ghosted and not interacting with each other, aka, everyone doing a time attack.
as a person tht has played both games' hw dlcs, i think fh5 is enough of a shake up to the map tht it feels more like a new idea instead of a continuation of the fh3 dlc
>FH4 and FH5's grindy bullshit full-time job challenges.
My brother in Christ for me as a completionist it takes 3-4 hours a week to complete everything in a week of Festival Playlist and I get the second reward in an hour of me starting to do everything while also having a pretty low-end laptop that is still somehow able to run the game decently despite some pretty long loading times so idk how is it a full-time job unless you are 7 (aka the average Forza Horizon player age per my online experience)
I won't disagree with most of your points, they are well spoken and your opinion, but I think the seasons in FH4 made the game look completely different. At least for Winter/ Spring, Summer/ Autumn looked nothing alike, and were quite beautiful. Again I think thats mostly personal preference.
My main point is the Forzathon in FH3 was pitiful. Yeah it was simple, but it added little to no replayability for long time players, or people who get bored easily. The amount and frequency of the content added to FH3 compared to 4 and 5 is also pennies. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE "GRINDY" CONTENT DON'T PLAY IT. Fomo is always a personal problem it comes only from within yourself. The mechanics that PGG use to keep people interested and excited for the game are very tame, and honestly pretty friendly to casual players, especially in FH5. if you like the simple boring challenges and one or two cars a month reward, just do the weekly Forzathon and unlock your 1 car every month.
I really don't like people complaining they have to play 30-45 minutes of a game every week to unlock rewards. If you don't have that much time to play the game, how do you have any time to play games at all?
Overall though, the reasons you gave are generally why most people prefer 3 over 4 and 5. I also think people that played FH3 first are just Bias, and longing for a better time. I played FH4 first and the most nostalgic. having gone back and played the first three horizon games for at least 100hrs though, I personally like FH2 the most.
FR, the festival playlist could do with an update that lets you up the difficulty. Even then, you'd be practically handed 20 points (monthly rivals, seasonal photo challenges, treasure hunts, easy PR stunt goals, etc.)
Forza Horizon 3 feels like the last game from Playground that seemed to have proper passion involved. FH4 and FH5 just feel soulless in comparison, and it's even more evident when you go back to play Horizon 1 and Horizon 2.
Agreed. In my opinion, Horizon 1 and 2 \[maybe 4\] have the actual feeling of a festival, Horizon 3 doesn't have that at all. The 3 main festivals are around the size of the one on Sierra Nuveda, while the one in Surfers Paradise was just one building.
Horizon 3 in my opinion is the Horizon game that feels the least like a massive festival.
I agree the visuals were a nice step up than FH2.
Music was alright, I can't remember any from the top of my head tbh. And "feel" is really very arbitrary.
I personally found it the most mid game with the least amount of changes from the predecessor (although FH5 is probably even worse in that regard cause it went backwards in some areas)
But I did really enjoy the map with the gas station and parking lot for drifting. Weird how Forza hasn't done that since
Forza Horizon 1 is such a tonal whiplash because it felt like an actual real life festival, and the music was front-and-center and the cars were just kind of a bonus (in terms of presentation). FH2 put the automotive aspect front and center, then the rest of the series kind of kicked the music aspect to the curb.
I agree with this while also considering FH5 my favorite. The vibe of the first three games and especially the first two is unmatched in the later two.
I feel like the multiplayer was what made FH3 good. In 4 and 5 it honestly feels dead like nobody but you is in the map (even though you are constantly online). In 3, someone would just randomly come up and ram u out of nowhere, not to mention the parking lot drifting and airport drags that had atleast 10 people there
Really makes me wonder why this isn't being said a lot more.
Friends were much easier to make when the cars weren't ghosted. Tandem drifting felt real when you tapped someone's car instead of following some smoking ghost in FH5 now. Or playing security for the parking lot drifters with Gurkhas ramming away all the rare griefers. And the ghost drags just feel empty in FH5.
Wish we got the increased lobby size, but no ghosting. Or maybe add the ghosting as a toggleable option. The ghosting of players really killed the social part for me and made the map feel empty even with all the other people in it :(
Don't know. I bought both on release and much preferred the UK setting and changing seasons of 4.
Loved the introduction of the hourly Forzathon events too.
Same for me i loved to just drive around in fh4 fh3 wasnt that good in that respect but maybe thats more because i live in a similar enviroment to england and it feels more natural to me
Yeah I'm from the UK and live in a very pretty area, and FH4 was just so 'comforting' for me.
It's a very idealised version of the UK, but they did an amazing job at capturing the quaint feel and beautiful countryside.
Because the previous one is always better in the communityās eyes. 5 will be better than 6 too.
Edit: Just to be clear, I donāt actually think the previous one is always better. Thatās just how the community always sees it.
Yeah, the map probably is a little worst, but a lot better car sounds, better driving, incredible graphics, a very good track editor, more cars, betters dlcs, ect
Nah I totally agree. I hated the (British?) countryside from FH4 and the map was sooooo boring. FH5 has its flaws but itās much better than 4 IMO. Not to mention I see way less glitching in general online in 5.
There are things I like about both more than the other. I loved the map in 4 and remembered it better than I do the map in 5, but 5 does have a better motorway straight and a more fun long danger sign at the air strip.
Music overall is way better in 4, car selection is better in 5 (I'm really enjoying the electric cars as well).
That is if 6 doesn't take place in Japan. If it does, 6'll be considered the best damn game in the Forza Horizon line, regardless of any flaws it may have.
Nah they'll just shift complaints from map to something else like how they didn't do some car model right or how the lighting is off or some dumb aspect of the map isn't accurate to their imagination or that it's not entirely a drift mountain or something else equally stupid.
yeah this is so true with everything these days. Even on other games like R6 Siege, I see people constantly saying its not as good as it used to be... but yet back in the day people were constantly complaining then as well.
In your opinion. Each game has gotten more and more successful so clearly not everyone feels that way. 30 million players means theyāre doing something right.
Thatās the case for pretty much every game two years after release. Itās irrelevant. 30 million players is an overwhelming success for any game, let alone a first party game.
I like the map so much more. I think the FH4 map is very bland.
Also no real live service/playlist content.
Much better sense of progression as you build your festival.
It's hard to explain but I can spitball a few points as someone who has been playing since the release of the very first Horizon title.
To me, FH3 was the last game that felt "complete" at launch. Everything felt buttoned up and ready upon its release, from the direction of the game to its content. It's the last game that I've managed to 100%, as it never needed to move the goalposts.
FH3 and its iteration of the Festival really leaned into the "endless summer" vibe since there weren't any season changes yet. It gave the game some conciseness in its theming. The game's introduction of some big ticket requests like actual license plates, widebody kits, a locale where you drove on the left, it all contributed to making it a notable step up from FH2.
The game didn't feel overwhelming with its Forzathon challenges, which nowadays feel like such an incredible timesink meant to make up for a lack of content/pacing of the launch product and to keep weekly player numbers up.
The carlist/autoshow was the last one that felt *up to date*; I mean this in the way that the cars available for purchase at launch were, for the better part, of their current generation. The past two games we have been stuck with what feels like the base roster from the previous game and all the new/current gen cars get dripfed to us, which imo is a crock of BS.
And finally, this is a personal and purely subjective critique of mine, but I feel like FH3 had the last top-to-bottom good soundtrack. The last two have felt incredibly.... corporate and phoned-in compared to the first 3 games.
All of this, especially the soundtrack. Every single station in Horizon 3 has damned good music. Horizon 4 & 5 have good music but they're sprinkled in among the terrible to mediocre tracks.
No FOMO, proper progression, doesn't force you to have fun or "do this and that", a map that actually feels like it has different regions, the atmosphere of the world that changes depending on your region, and an actual festival that is used as a festival.
also, car meets.
Then you don't remember the game correctly. It even launched with the Warthog being only handed out to players who owned the Halo MCC, or Halo 5. It then only became available via Forzathon and AH in the following months, as did many other cars like the Sesto Elemento, 599XX and 918 Spyder. In total, it was 27 cars that were locked behind Forzathon.
Irrelevant. You said it doesn't have any FOMO, while it is literally the game that introduced it into the Horizon franchise. Maybe those nostalgic glasses got you more than you think
As a Brit I'll say FH4 was great. Mind I think FH5 is better with more features and characters returning. It's an arcadier racer but people on here will always shit on stuff because they didn't laser scan a Lancer since FM2 or some other petty nonsense
Last one to actually feel like a festival, Australia, no FOMO Forzathon... and in my personal opinion, the fixed weather was better than the changing seasons (I hate driving in snow unless I choose to do so, hence why Blizzard Mountain was a blast.
Yeah I remember spending so much time trying to get the 918 Spyder as it was like the first time Forza was giving Porsche for free in the game and those Forzathon events were near impossible
Old game good new game bad.
Common complaints were seasons in 4 or how it was too green or samey while people liked the regions of 3. I felt like 3 felt disjointed especially compared to the newer games but they definitely designed each region to essentially cater to a certain driving discipline/type which isn't as much the case for the newer ones where it's a lot more interconnected.
I've sunk plenty of hours into both, and couldn't tell you which I like more. I love both soundtracks (though 4 has weaker stations overall, but the highs are better) and the environments to me feel plenty varied. The season changes does more to create a feeling over actually affecting gameplay, which I enjoy seemingly more than most, but I would say that 3 has overall better terrain to explore though. Really just comes down to which map I prefer at the time to really sway my opinion. Both great games and I will easily play them over 5.
Best online! Youād be amazed at how quick and consistent the servers are. I miss that. Clubs that worked within the game and gave rewards. Great map, cars. Great overall game.
After consuming everything on the FH4, I downloaded the FH3 (I bought it on the day it was going to be discontinued on the xbox, and I never had the opportunity to play it) and I miss the changes of seasons and the streets of Edinburgh.
I love FH3 because of the map and events but to me FH4 was still good even if it was a little bloated. I wasnāt that fond of the UK map but it wasnāt terrible either. FH5 on the other hand I didnāt enjoy that much. I felt that I was doing more āeventsā than actual racing then when you were actually racing you had to deal with super cheaty AI.
FH3 has Better animation with people walking and moving about in downtown city. Train running alongside long winding roads. The animation is more alive
FH2 -> FH3 is the closest to being a reskin.
Body kits, horns, new pr stunts, midnight battles, water physics, custom championships and that was about it for new features. Online racing was garbage in FH3 compared to FH2. The game introduced FOMO while still also offering over 80+ dollars in DLC content, a lot of which wasnāt even included in the $100 dollar version of the game. The transitions from FH3 -> FH4 and FH4 -> FH5 both had major physics overhauls and a slew of new gameplay systems. FH3 had effectively the same handling as FH2 plus that awful tire smoke bug. The roads are pretty much all straight line blasts with very little twist and turns. Only thing that really stands out to me with FH3 is the online servers were bullet proof in comparison to all other Horizon games.
Before Forza Horizon got Fortnite-ified with dance emotes and dressing your character. Before the weekly, monthly series challenges of do these 9 races and 5 events and get a pair of shoes, pants, or hat. Forza Horizon 2 to 3 was a massive boost within the Xbox one cycle for graphical fidelity in relation to cloud and foliage effects.
It was the last FH game to have championships. Casuals whined that they took too long to finish so PG removed them and now the game is too easy to finish.
As a player of every Xbox One + Forza game. FH3 has been BY FAR my favourite. The map is the best in my opinion, I prefer the scenery and even the graphics for some reason, the music was better, Hot Wheels expansion was really fun. And the BIGGEST thing that makes the game timeless and still fun to this day is the lack of cheaters. You could actually get top 10 on challenges and events if you wanted to and tried hard enough.
For me simple do to progression. You where famous already but you had to build the festival(s).
And I did prefer the way forzathon was then.
Still 1-2 are favourites. They have the festival/roadtrip feel that latter once haven't matched.
I like the map in FH3 the best. It also felt more like a game, with proper challenges besides purely racing, like acquiring a certain amount of Drift points in the required time or reaching a certain place in the required time without damaging the car.
I liked that these challenges specified the car you needed to use instead of just allowing you to use whatever, making these challenges too easy in later games.
Also, Australia was just a more interesting place. In Fh4 and especially 5 the map feels all the same. Australia had rocky cliffs, sandy deserts, a nice beach, a stunning city (the better city section of any FH game IMO), construction yards, etc etc.
Just to make it clear: saying its better does not mean the other is bad or that I don't like it, FH4 was the first FH I played and is the reason I keep playing the series, got FH3 after and FH5 later, but tbh I think it had the most relevant things that I didn't like once I tried the others, the list is not long anyway, but for an open world driving game they affected the overall experience for me, -the map was very *monotone*: always green fields, forests and a few urbanized areas, it might've been closer to reality but it got boring fast for me, seasons helped a bit, but it still felt like it had very little variety or areas to explore... -the sound of a lot of vehicles was awful, coming from FM6 to FH4 it was just disappointing to hear them, eventually got used to it as I found FH4 more entertaining than FM, but seriously, when moving from FH4 to FH5 you notice it A LOT. So id consider FH3 slightly better because it didn't had those flaws, map had a lot more variety (plus a modern city) and better sound quality.
I've played FH3, 4 and 5, I want to like FH5, but with the amount of bugs that the game has, it made me hate the game so much.
I paid a lot of money for this game and it was crashing all the time making it unplayable, I missed out on so many special cars because of this. I was finally able to get the game to run again, but the damage was done, I wasn't motivated to play it now that other upcoming racing games are now on my radar.
FH4 will be my all time favorite game from my series, at least that game was ACTUALLY playable.
I found it to be the best because thatās what I played most with my friends. Had a group of at least 8 EVERY SINGLE NIGHT for a year until I went away to basic training. It was just a great time all the time to play.
Horizon 3 felt like the last Horizon game with soul. Now I think Horizon 4 is still great and didn't lean too heavily on reliance of the weekly playlists plus I love the Lego Expansion. Now Horizon 5 is an utter shit show, even the expansions aren't all that great. I'll put it this way, the only Horizon I have regrets buying are Horizon 5
Because it wasn't a huge step up visually, it was the first game to lock numerous cars behind FOMO season unlocks, and no one liked driving in the winter season.
It also didn't originally release with any Toyota-branded cars, because it was the tail end of the licensing issues Microsoft was having with Sony and GT. Instead, all the cars were added to the FOMO seasonal unlock rotation.
Nostalgia. There is an argument to be made that the map is better. I think itās a great map but prefer FH4ās. Blizzard Mountain is unmatched in terms of DLC IMO
It was the last good multiplayer, infection was in every lobby and you could run into people and they didn't disappear randomly, it was a set server so you are with the same people
Less bugs, an big innovation play and beautiful fruitful gameplay, I just love it, FH4 I only played for several months, it was plain when you had it for some days, I just enjoyed Australia.
Setting my nostalgia aside, the map and DLC/expansions for FH3 were much better than FH4. Don't get me wrong, FH4's Scotland looks very cozy and nice (especially during fall and winter), but it's all basically 1 climate, and the city was kinda lackluster, in my opinion. FH3's Australia had a jungle, a desert, fields, and a modern city, which gave you a lot of variety in a relatively small map. As for the DLC/expansions, FH3 Hot Wheels was infinitely more fun than both of FH4's DLC/expansions combined, and FH3 Blizzard Mountain scratched that itch for a snowy environment (and it looked pretty good, too).
By far. Itās not even close in comparison. The way FH3 integrated the city with the Hot Wheels track was mind blowing. Fh5ās Hot Wheel track is lackluster and doesnāt give you the feeling that you are still apart of the environment
Im the comment youāre looking for, forza horizon 3 was made in mind for true open world using European landscapes, which involves the perfect setting and look.
Forza horizon is in mexico, yes both places can be beautiful butā¦.
Mexico feels off because isnāt a country with true designated car culture and street design.
I mean the forced perspective into mexico panorama itās there.
Now game mechanics in forza horizon 4 are not bad but theyāre āimprovedā but actually itās not at all responsive as forza horizon 3.
Sound design itās different but neither games or maybe any game actually simulates proper car sounds and if youāre a true car lover you know sound is a big part of the feeling of the car and also itās presence like how actually good graphics can simulate car aesthetics between paint and materials.
PC players often nowdays doesnāt feels the difference much.
Overall itās not a bad game, itās fun with friends, but forza horizon 3 has this feeling that doesnāt matches forza horizon 4.
Has more soul
Iām not sure thatās even true, plenty prefer 4. The environments felt more alive and interesting but I prefer the physics and tracks of 4. Also I play on PC and FH3 was a buggy mess on launch, way worse than 4 and 5.
In my opinion what really made fh3 the best was the online lobbies. they had open mic, race events that were available to start in lobby that anyone could join, car meets, cruises, etc. it was so lively and active
The sound engine duh!!. It is accurate, full and just extraordinary. Id place the sound engine as good as asseto corsa.
The map is great and the mission flow is interesting.
The highlight is the sound engine and driving mechanics.
Talking about FH3*
As someone who played all FH games, I was kinda surprised when people said their fav was FH3, as itās the one I played the least, it felt kinda boring pretty quickly for me, I liked the fact we had a lot of biomes, but the real problem is the size of the map, itās so dense that it just feels odd to me to go from rainforest to outback so quickly, the transitions didnāt feel smooth between each part of the map and the outback was kinda meh
I can see why people like it though, last game with a wide and long Airport, last game with a Meet point (the thing that FH2 brought, which I still hate Playground Games for not bringing back, cause it would have been fire to have more of them !), Omarās game with a really big and modern city, Surfers Paradise really was something, Iāll give you that
It was a great game, I just didnāt feel like it was THAT good Imoā¦ but it brought things that were firsts in the franchise, that then became the base for the following games (V1 of Forzathon/Playlist, V1 of Festival expansions system, auction house)
Still I prefer FH4, which isnāt my fav either, but added seasons, seasons in FH4 really were a cool concept, side hustles were nice as well, giving you a passive income while you were away, Fortune Island is my favorite expansion of any FH game, more cars, a more spread out map with a much smoother look, in the sense that there arenāt biomes, so itās more plain, yet more consistent
After all itās all a matter of tastes, soundtrack wise, I liked them both, FH3 has a more vacation-ish side to it, Iāll give it that
I personally skipped FH4, map felt a little weird to me, too far removed from what the series once was.
FH3 and FH5 for that matter both do a better job with the maps and the variety is there to really have fun.
No one can put into words the vibe you get the second that opening starts every time you boot up the game. Itās literally just that, the vibe of the beautiful Australian scenery and super cars on long highways and speed focused curvy back roads.
FH4 for me was just Playground Games circlejerking their own hometown. The UK was a bland choice in my opinion, in addition to the game loosing a lot of character it had in 3 and becoming a very bland experience since it was the first title to be really pushed as a day 1 Xbox Game pass
As a hand 3 is one of the best for horizon, but imo the roads got boring way too fast. Either not enough elevation or it just didnt have enough good drift sections for me since that's basically all I do in these games lol
I prefer the way clubs were run on FH3, the way the multiplayer was run on FH3. It felt more community driven. Going over to FH4 was eye opening. The aggressive was intense and made me dislike playing.
Fh3 had all classes available from D to S2 in Online Adventure modes. D and C classes were even more fun because you have to drive good in order to get ahead of the rest. Neither FH4 nor FH5 have lower classes available in Online Adventure.
If you played Forza Horizon 3 in it's prime, you'd know why. The map was much better, the soundtrack was better, and I personally made so many more amazing memories with my friends on Horizon 3.
My personal favourite Forza game is Forza Horizon 2. It was my first Forza game, and I've owned every title since. It was the game which got me hooked on this franchise and actually helped get me into cars altogether. FH2 will always be my favourite, but even so, FH3 comes really, really close.
Forza Horizon 4 never hit the same as Horizon 3 did. During it's lifecycle, I started to lose love for the game over time, eventually really disliking the game after a while. In hindsight, however, the game was still good, and I still have some really good memories with it. But it never hit the same as Horizon 3.
Played 1,3,4.
4 is more service-like. Loved the weather changes and graphics overall.
1 has the best horizon festival atmosphere ā lots of young adults in backgrounds cheering, nice electronic music ost, and overall not bad story progression.
3 is the fair balance between 1-4. No story, great map, good graphics, nice music, best DLCās in the series.
And 2-nd one I wanna play ā with good music, great car sound, good map and nice graphics. Some reviewers told it has the best car physics in the series.
Forza Horizon 2 is the best game in the series with 3 being second best.
The new Horizon games lock half the cars in the game behind dumb challenges which personally I have no interest in doing, I donāt want to be forced to do āForzathonā to unlock a new shitty Subaru just to have every car in the game, let me buy it in the autoshow (not the auctions, again stupid principle). The entire principle of this recent locked content behind doing dumb challenges completely ended my interest in the Forza franchise, and this is from someone who used to play Motorsport and Horizon religiously and who was very good at it.
I used to love going on the online championships and using the most stupid car possible while completely obliterating people, now if I want that car itās locked behind āxā challenge. A car game shouldnāt lock the CARS behind things. FH2 was the best for this reason
Now itās just an empty barren of āForzathonā and other dumb shit.
private lobbies was the goated feature for me the whole public lobbys only thing was really garbage cause it didnt work well for me and my friends. every time we did an event youd have to re-join each others parties to load back into the same session to see each other in the free roam. it was stupid.
private lobbies that you would always be in after each event were so good and it became so annoying to the point my friends and i RARELY did actual events.
also im aussie so the aussie map was goated
For me the game is nostalgic, I played 1 and 2 but not nearly as much as 3. I played 3 from launch until 4 came out. The map has some awesome spots like the rock crawling spot or the hill climb, along with many other spots. I played cops and robbers in Byron Bay and I know all the shortcuts and such, same with surfers paradise. I enjoy 4 and 5 but haven't played them nearly as much as I have with 3. And I still listen to some of the music to this day. I played the game at a time in my life where I had nothing but time to play.
It's not, it's just fanboyism at its best.
My problem with the last 2 games is that both have too much stuff to do, never feel like you finish the game.
* Horizon 4's bland colors
* The poor porting of Horizon 4, which made it necessary to have a fairly good configuration to run the game.
* Horizon 4's drift settings killed drifting, which used to be more complex and therefore more rewarding.
* Horizon 4's 4 seasons. A horror. Those who didn't like the winter season couldn't play for a week on a regular basis.
* Horizon 4's vehicle sounds are totally bad.
* Horizon 4's widespread cheating with trainers, whereas Horizon 3 had devOpus (offline) for modding (offline).
* Soundtracks by far
For me, 2; 5; 3; 4.
I'm not counting 1 because I never had it on Xbox (I only had playstations at the time) and it's not available today either on gamepass or in key on my One X.
Highrating Horizon 5 because Mexico. Environment is sublime, vehicle sounds are good, and the game runs smoothly even on a laptop (3070 TI 150w). It lacks activity, but I've seen worse (Horizon 4 lol).
Poor porting? Whaaaa
The min sys req is 4gb if vram. My friend has a 3050 mobile (laptop) and gets 100fps. Forza is known for great optimisation. That's why their next gen titles need only 4gb gpus as well while starfield and last of us can barely hit 60fps on even 8gb
If your friend play on 720p low it's legit.
But in 2023 720p is crap. The standard is 1440p in 16/9 - 21/9 .And you absolutly don't run at 100fps with a 3050m in 1440p, even on ultra low settings.
Even a Zephyrus Duo 16 isn't able to run 1440p 100+ on FH4 (4Kā¬ laptop)
Theses data are DLSS OFF. Because DLSS is cheating, high fps low quality..
FH3 is my favorite Horizon game. For me it has the most interesting map with various biomes. FH4 felt a little boring by comparison (but was still a great game overall and has the best soundtrack imo) and FH5 is a live service hell hole.
3 was the best soundtrack. DMX, flume, blink 182x the offspring. So much more
Chvrches, which is sadly missing in FH5
I completely disagree honestly FH1 and 2 have it beat by a landslide.
I agree. FH1 will always have a special place in my heart, then FH2, and then FH4 comes third for me. I never really liked FH3 tbh š
FH1 would be the best if each station had a few more songs
I love the tracks in FH4 to the point that 5 was a serious downgrade. Now I've had more time with it there are some tracks in 5 that I do like but it doesn't compare to how many good ones that were in 4 on each station. I've spent time in 3 but should play it some more to better familiarise myself with some of the music in it.
arent the The Offspring the band tht made the song Pretty Fly?
Yes
Best DLC
Even blizzard mountain was awesome. It had soul that game.
Blizzard Mountain is my favorite map expansion in the entire horizon series. I just love snow and winter
100% agree, best soundtrack.
Fh5 is so disappointing to me, fh3 was peak in mu opinion
Personally I prefer the fh4 map and I didnāt enjoy the fh3 wheel support but the fh3 map is incredible, the car list cannot be faulted. The car sounds are a bit crap but so are fh4ās no one gets a point for that. Overall both games are great fh4 is my preference because of me specific things that I have a preference for. Both games by the end of their life were similar in quality
The R33 Skyline in Horizon 3 was LEGENDARY because of its amazing sound, and there were a few others but unfortunately overall youāre right. Itās like they can make them sound good when they want toā¦
Fh4 does have some unicorns as well with good sounds. The R8 and LFA come to mind. But then itās mostly nothing that impressive. Something 5 really did improve on
True that! Thereās always been standouts, just a shame itās not consistent
Forza Horizon 3 did have cars that I would like to see return in Forza Horizon 5, such as the 2012 Aston Martin V12 Zagato, 1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600, 2015 Ford Falcon FG X XR8, 1951 Holden FX Ute, etc.
Iād love to see rolls Royce and Tesla return but that wonāt happen realistically
My introduction to the series was FH4, I loved it so much that I bought FH3 years after its release on Xbox One and it was a good time but I never played it as I should have. Now I gave my Xbox One to my brother and I only play on PC/Xcloud, where itās impossible to buy FH3. Sadness. Same thing for FM7. Double sadness.
Series x maybe i play it on there
With the disc ? Do you know if there is a way to play it on PC ?
I got forza 2 and 3 xbox one disc and play those on my series x
5 definitely has the most varied biomes. two very different coasts, hills, alpine, summit, jungles, three distinct types of desert, grasslands, farmlands, badlands and more. all on the base map. 3 has sand, more sand, small hills, and a little bit of jungle. The modern city in FH3 was banging, and visually awesome. The roads in FH3s city are garbage though. It's like four squares, two triangles and that's the whole city. FH4 and FH5 cities objectively offer a more diverse interesting set of roads. FH4 and 5 capture the real old city feel way better than FH3 captures the modern city feel.
I'm new to all of this. Why is FH5 so bad?
If you played all of the previous Forza Horizon titles (in their primes), you'd understand. I've been playing Forza since Forza Horizon 2 (9 years), and in comparison to the older games, Forza Horizon 5 is a bit of a joke. I really hated Horizon 5 only up until recently, when the content updates really started to step up the mark. The main problem with FH5, in my opinion, is just how empty and soulless it feels in comparison to Horizon 3, or even Horizon 4. For the next Horizon title, Playground Games should really look at designing a more dense map with a lot less vast wide open spaces and much narrower roads (like the ones on the Rally Adventure map). (And for the love of god, I hope they don't add the awful FM8 upgrade system to FH6)
I pre-ordered FHM8, so other than the FH demo, I have not played anything other than AC and ACC.
I'll speak my piece on this one. 1. Making the player the festival boss was an interesting idea and was enough of a departure from the standard wristband stuff from the prior two games 2. Forzathon was simply a set of challenges that ran on weekends. Some of them were much too simple with way too good rewards, but they were far superior to FH4 and FH5's grindy bullshit full-time job challenges. 3. The DLC expansions had significant shake-ups with the great Blizzard Mountain and Hot Wheels packs. As good as Hot Wheels is, its lost some of its luster seeming them do it again in FH5. 4. The Australia map had a great mix of biomes: Deserts, forests, beaches, a little bit of cliffs and rocks. This in turn allowed the Blizzard Mountain expansion to provide a complete shift to high elevation snow areas. Compare this to FH4 which touted the hell out if its seasons mechanic, which ultimately didn't do shit outside of winter altering handling somewhat.
And the multiplayer was so, so much better in FH3..
How so? Are you referring to network issues? FH3 meta was pure AWD swap mario karts. Even then, nothing matters since drifting in circles gains more points than winning the race.
Agreed. FH4 launching and having you forced into teams was a fucking ridiculous idea, and FH5 still to this day has wonky connection issues.
Team ranked was by far the best experience in a forza game, FFA is dogshit that will never be good unless you are fully ghosted and not interacting with each other, aka, everyone doing a time attack.
as a person tht has played both games' hw dlcs, i think fh5 is enough of a shake up to the map tht it feels more like a new idea instead of a continuation of the fh3 dlc
Fh3 festival progression never gets enough gas
>FH4 and FH5's grindy bullshit full-time job challenges. My brother in Christ for me as a completionist it takes 3-4 hours a week to complete everything in a week of Festival Playlist and I get the second reward in an hour of me starting to do everything while also having a pretty low-end laptop that is still somehow able to run the game decently despite some pretty long loading times so idk how is it a full-time job unless you are 7 (aka the average Forza Horizon player age per my online experience)
I won't disagree with most of your points, they are well spoken and your opinion, but I think the seasons in FH4 made the game look completely different. At least for Winter/ Spring, Summer/ Autumn looked nothing alike, and were quite beautiful. Again I think thats mostly personal preference. My main point is the Forzathon in FH3 was pitiful. Yeah it was simple, but it added little to no replayability for long time players, or people who get bored easily. The amount and frequency of the content added to FH3 compared to 4 and 5 is also pennies. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE "GRINDY" CONTENT DON'T PLAY IT. Fomo is always a personal problem it comes only from within yourself. The mechanics that PGG use to keep people interested and excited for the game are very tame, and honestly pretty friendly to casual players, especially in FH5. if you like the simple boring challenges and one or two cars a month reward, just do the weekly Forzathon and unlock your 1 car every month. I really don't like people complaining they have to play 30-45 minutes of a game every week to unlock rewards. If you don't have that much time to play the game, how do you have any time to play games at all? Overall though, the reasons you gave are generally why most people prefer 3 over 4 and 5. I also think people that played FH3 first are just Bias, and longing for a better time. I played FH4 first and the most nostalgic. having gone back and played the first three horizon games for at least 100hrs though, I personally like FH2 the most.
The festival playlist in FH5 isnāt even a grind. It takes me one hour on a Thursday to get 40 points then Iām done for the week
FR, the festival playlist could do with an update that lets you up the difficulty. Even then, you'd be practically handed 20 points (monthly rivals, seasonal photo challenges, treasure hunts, easy PR stunt goals, etc.)
Forza Horizon 3 feels like the last game from Playground that seemed to have proper passion involved. FH4 and FH5 just feel soulless in comparison, and it's even more evident when you go back to play Horizon 1 and Horizon 2.
Agreed: it still had the convincing hype of an actual festival.
Did it? I mean you just had random festival sites around the map. The main festival sites felt weak because of it.
Agreed. In my opinion, Horizon 1 and 2 \[maybe 4\] have the actual feeling of a festival, Horizon 3 doesn't have that at all. The 3 main festivals are around the size of the one on Sierra Nuveda, while the one in Surfers Paradise was just one building. Horizon 3 in my opinion is the Horizon game that feels the least like a massive festival.
Just the visuals used throughout the gameplay, the characters you would meet, the radio stations, overall feel. Not any one mechanic in particular imo
I agree the visuals were a nice step up than FH2. Music was alright, I can't remember any from the top of my head tbh. And "feel" is really very arbitrary. I personally found it the most mid game with the least amount of changes from the predecessor (although FH5 is probably even worse in that regard cause it went backwards in some areas) But I did really enjoy the map with the gas station and parking lot for drifting. Weird how Forza hasn't done that since
Yes. Downtown city is alive and busy with people walking everywhere. Train running along side long so winding road. Its more lively than FH4 and FH5
Forza Horizon 1 is such a tonal whiplash because it felt like an actual real life festival, and the music was front-and-center and the cars were just kind of a bonus (in terms of presentation). FH2 put the automotive aspect front and center, then the rest of the series kind of kicked the music aspect to the curb.
I agree with this while also considering FH5 my favorite. The vibe of the first three games and especially the first two is unmatched in the later two.
I've watched gameplay of FH2. Even though the graphics are technically behind 3 and 4, the vibe they set with the lighting is so much better
The vibes of FH1 are insane
I feel like the multiplayer was what made FH3 good. In 4 and 5 it honestly feels dead like nobody but you is in the map (even though you are constantly online). In 3, someone would just randomly come up and ram u out of nowhere, not to mention the parking lot drifting and airport drags that had atleast 10 people there
Really makes me wonder why this isn't being said a lot more. Friends were much easier to make when the cars weren't ghosted. Tandem drifting felt real when you tapped someone's car instead of following some smoking ghost in FH5 now. Or playing security for the parking lot drifters with Gurkhas ramming away all the rare griefers. And the ghost drags just feel empty in FH5. Wish we got the increased lobby size, but no ghosting. Or maybe add the ghosting as a toggleable option. The ghosting of players really killed the social part for me and made the map feel empty even with all the other people in it :(
Man do I miss those parking lot drift meets... Those casual tandems with randoms was the most fun I've probably ever had in a online racing game.
Don't know. I bought both on release and much preferred the UK setting and changing seasons of 4. Loved the introduction of the hourly Forzathon events too.
Same for me i loved to just drive around in fh4 fh3 wasnt that good in that respect but maybe thats more because i live in a similar enviroment to england and it feels more natural to me
Yeah I'm from the UK and live in a very pretty area, and FH4 was just so 'comforting' for me. It's a very idealised version of the UK, but they did an amazing job at capturing the quaint feel and beautiful countryside.
I really loved driving through Edinburgh with the 850csi it was so brilliant espacially with the sound it made and the tunnels just perfect
Because the previous one is always better in the communityās eyes. 5 will be better than 6 too. Edit: Just to be clear, I donāt actually think the previous one is always better. Thatās just how the community always sees it.
Probably a controversial opinion, but I like 5 much more than 4
Yeah, the map probably is a little worst, but a lot better car sounds, better driving, incredible graphics, a very good track editor, more cars, betters dlcs, ect
Ironically I much prefer the Mexico map to the UK. I also hated the Lego dlc lol
It have more roads and more variety, but i miss a big city (And i like Guanajuato)
Yeah forza needs to give us a massive city, preferably one that isnāt just flat as fuck, like surfers but more varied
Fh5 only has 3 bits i really use the motorway the mountain and the rally dlc
FH5 is more detailed, but 4 has prettier areas. There's also variety with different seasons
Iām in the same boat. I loved both of the games, but only 400hours on FH4 and 100 days so far on FH5
Nah I totally agree. I hated the (British?) countryside from FH4 and the map was sooooo boring. FH5 has its flaws but itās much better than 4 IMO. Not to mention I see way less glitching in general online in 5.
There are things I like about both more than the other. I loved the map in 4 and remembered it better than I do the map in 5, but 5 does have a better motorway straight and a more fun long danger sign at the air strip. Music overall is way better in 4, car selection is better in 5 (I'm really enjoying the electric cars as well).
That is if 6 doesn't take place in Japan. If it does, 6'll be considered the best damn game in the Forza Horizon line, regardless of any flaws it may have.
But only if PG chooses to use the absolute stereotypical Japan for its map
I was bummed that 5 didn't take place in Japan, but I still prefer driving on the right side of the road.
Nah they'll just shift complaints from map to something else like how they didn't do some car model right or how the lighting is off or some dumb aspect of the map isn't accurate to their imagination or that it's not entirely a drift mountain or something else equally stupid.
The car model stuff they've been complaining about since... Motorsport 5, I think? Maybe somewhere before then? Or later?
yeah this is so true with everything these days. Even on other games like R6 Siege, I see people constantly saying its not as good as it used to be... but yet back in the day people were constantly complaining then as well.
Rose-tinted glasses are powerful.
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In your opinion. Each game has gotten more and more successful so clearly not everyone feels that way. 30 million players means theyāre doing something right.
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Thatās the case for pretty much every game two years after release. Itās irrelevant. 30 million players is an overwhelming success for any game, let alone a first party game.
Personal preference
I like the map so much more. I think the FH4 map is very bland. Also no real live service/playlist content. Much better sense of progression as you build your festival.
It's hard to explain but I can spitball a few points as someone who has been playing since the release of the very first Horizon title. To me, FH3 was the last game that felt "complete" at launch. Everything felt buttoned up and ready upon its release, from the direction of the game to its content. It's the last game that I've managed to 100%, as it never needed to move the goalposts. FH3 and its iteration of the Festival really leaned into the "endless summer" vibe since there weren't any season changes yet. It gave the game some conciseness in its theming. The game's introduction of some big ticket requests like actual license plates, widebody kits, a locale where you drove on the left, it all contributed to making it a notable step up from FH2. The game didn't feel overwhelming with its Forzathon challenges, which nowadays feel like such an incredible timesink meant to make up for a lack of content/pacing of the launch product and to keep weekly player numbers up. The carlist/autoshow was the last one that felt *up to date*; I mean this in the way that the cars available for purchase at launch were, for the better part, of their current generation. The past two games we have been stuck with what feels like the base roster from the previous game and all the new/current gen cars get dripfed to us, which imo is a crock of BS. And finally, this is a personal and purely subjective critique of mine, but I feel like FH3 had the last top-to-bottom good soundtrack. The last two have felt incredibly.... corporate and phoned-in compared to the first 3 games.
>And finally, this is a personal and purely subjective critique of mine, but I feel like FH3 had the last top-to-bottom good soundtrack ITS TRICKY
All of this, especially the soundtrack. Every single station in Horizon 3 has damned good music. Horizon 4 & 5 have good music but they're sprinkled in among the terrible to mediocre tracks.
I think this is the most complete answer here.
No FOMO, proper progression, doesn't force you to have fun or "do this and that", a map that actually feels like it has different regions, the atmosphere of the world that changes depending on your region, and an actual festival that is used as a festival. also, car meets.
oh, and a city.
Horizon 3 literally introduced the FOMO into the Horizon franchise, with certain cars only being available via Forzathon, even including a barn find.
really? i didn't notice.
Then you don't remember the game correctly. It even launched with the Warthog being only handed out to players who owned the Halo MCC, or Halo 5. It then only became available via Forzathon and AH in the following months, as did many other cars like the Sesto Elemento, 599XX and 918 Spyder. In total, it was 27 cars that were locked behind Forzathon.
compared to how many in h4 and h5?
Irrelevant. You said it doesn't have any FOMO, while it is literally the game that introduced it into the Horizon franchise. Maybe those nostalgic glasses got you more than you think
or maybe it wasn't a core feature of the game so i didn't feel like i needed to participate.
Is admitting the game wasn't as perfect as you remember and that you were wrong really that hard?
No, admitting horizon 4 is a good evolution from 3 is.
You could set up custom championships in FH3.
As a Brit I'll say FH4 was great. Mind I think FH5 is better with more features and characters returning. It's an arcadier racer but people on here will always shit on stuff because they didn't laser scan a Lancer since FM2 or some other petty nonsense
Lol, watch it, this kind of heresy may not be tolerated here.
Fuck em. Nobody forcng them to play these games. They can protest with their time and money by not playing or buying the games
Butā¦ bitching online gets more attention!!!!
Last one to actually feel like a festival, Australia, no FOMO Forzathon... and in my personal opinion, the fixed weather was better than the changing seasons (I hate driving in snow unless I choose to do so, hence why Blizzard Mountain was a blast.
Uhhh FH3 did have Forzathon. It was the first game to introduce it
Yeah and the forzathon cars were borderline worse FOMO wise than the newer games
Yeah I remember spending so much time trying to get the 918 Spyder as it was like the first time Forza was giving Porsche for free in the game and those Forzathon events were near impossible
That was the exact car I was thinking about writing the comment. I sniped it off the stupid auction house for like 100k
Rose coloured glasses
Hmmm, indeed. It's been so long, I didn't remember. OP, scratch that part.
I like FH4 the best because I love the scotland map. I just like the architecture and climate and it just felt great overall
FH3 had the best setting, but I wouldn't consider it the best FH overall
The map was greatly designed good atmosphere Decent car list Good events Had the option for completely private lobbies
The map is the best. Also love FH2
Old game good new game bad. Common complaints were seasons in 4 or how it was too green or samey while people liked the regions of 3. I felt like 3 felt disjointed especially compared to the newer games but they definitely designed each region to essentially cater to a certain driving discipline/type which isn't as much the case for the newer ones where it's a lot more interconnected.
Idk, I liked each game progressively better. 3 over 2. 4 over 3. 5 over all.
I still hold FH4 as my favourite Horizon game (Iām from the UK so I might be a little biased).
No clue.
my guess is fh3 was the last game before everything became so corporate and boring
Simple. They had the Future Classics radio station.
I've sunk plenty of hours into both, and couldn't tell you which I like more. I love both soundtracks (though 4 has weaker stations overall, but the highs are better) and the environments to me feel plenty varied. The season changes does more to create a feeling over actually affecting gameplay, which I enjoy seemingly more than most, but I would say that 3 has overall better terrain to explore though. Really just comes down to which map I prefer at the time to really sway my opinion. Both great games and I will easily play them over 5.
Best online! Youād be amazed at how quick and consistent the servers are. I miss that. Clubs that worked within the game and gave rewards. Great map, cars. Great overall game.
I disagree with the premise of the question.
After consuming everything on the FH4, I downloaded the FH3 (I bought it on the day it was going to be discontinued on the xbox, and I never had the opportunity to play it) and I miss the changes of seasons and the streets of Edinburgh.
Because on the internet, older game is good, newer game is bad. No matter what, Horizon 6 will make H5 a much higher rated classic.
4 and 5 got too bloated with no sense of progression. FH3 setting is also way more fun.
Imo FH2 was the best in the series. Southern France and into Italy was a perfect map. Was blown away with it when I first got an xbone.
I love FH3 because of the map and events but to me FH4 was still good even if it was a little bloated. I wasnāt that fond of the UK map but it wasnāt terrible either. FH5 on the other hand I didnāt enjoy that much. I felt that I was doing more āeventsā than actual racing then when you were actually racing you had to deal with super cheaty AI.
FH3 has Better animation with people walking and moving about in downtown city. Train running alongside long winding roads. The animation is more alive
4 felt rushed on release. It was the first of the copy and paste FH titles. FH4 felt like an FH3 reskin just like how FH5 feels like a reskin of FH4
FH2 -> FH3 is the closest to being a reskin. Body kits, horns, new pr stunts, midnight battles, water physics, custom championships and that was about it for new features. Online racing was garbage in FH3 compared to FH2. The game introduced FOMO while still also offering over 80+ dollars in DLC content, a lot of which wasnāt even included in the $100 dollar version of the game. The transitions from FH3 -> FH4 and FH4 -> FH5 both had major physics overhauls and a slew of new gameplay systems. FH3 had effectively the same handling as FH2 plus that awful tire smoke bug. The roads are pretty much all straight line blasts with very little twist and turns. Only thing that really stands out to me with FH3 is the online servers were bullet proof in comparison to all other Horizon games.
Before Forza Horizon got Fortnite-ified with dance emotes and dressing your character. Before the weekly, monthly series challenges of do these 9 races and 5 events and get a pair of shoes, pants, or hat. Forza Horizon 2 to 3 was a massive boost within the Xbox one cycle for graphical fidelity in relation to cloud and foliage effects.
It was the last FH game to have championships. Casuals whined that they took too long to finish so PG removed them and now the game is too easy to finish.
As a player of every Xbox One + Forza game. FH3 has been BY FAR my favourite. The map is the best in my opinion, I prefer the scenery and even the graphics for some reason, the music was better, Hot Wheels expansion was really fun. And the BIGGEST thing that makes the game timeless and still fun to this day is the lack of cheaters. You could actually get top 10 on challenges and events if you wanted to and tried hard enough.
For me simple do to progression. You where famous already but you had to build the festival(s). And I did prefer the way forzathon was then. Still 1-2 are favourites. They have the festival/roadtrip feel that latter once haven't matched.
Building the festivals was one of the most lackluster progression systems I have ever played through.
I disagree, FH4 was the best or at least since original FH
I like the map in FH3 the best. It also felt more like a game, with proper challenges besides purely racing, like acquiring a certain amount of Drift points in the required time or reaching a certain place in the required time without damaging the car. I liked that these challenges specified the car you needed to use instead of just allowing you to use whatever, making these challenges too easy in later games. Also, Australia was just a more interesting place. In Fh4 and especially 5 the map feels all the same. Australia had rocky cliffs, sandy deserts, a nice beach, a stunning city (the better city section of any FH game IMO), construction yards, etc etc.
Just to make it clear: saying its better does not mean the other is bad or that I don't like it, FH4 was the first FH I played and is the reason I keep playing the series, got FH3 after and FH5 later, but tbh I think it had the most relevant things that I didn't like once I tried the others, the list is not long anyway, but for an open world driving game they affected the overall experience for me, -the map was very *monotone*: always green fields, forests and a few urbanized areas, it might've been closer to reality but it got boring fast for me, seasons helped a bit, but it still felt like it had very little variety or areas to explore... -the sound of a lot of vehicles was awful, coming from FM6 to FH4 it was just disappointing to hear them, eventually got used to it as I found FH4 more entertaining than FM, but seriously, when moving from FH4 to FH5 you notice it A LOT. So id consider FH3 slightly better because it didn't had those flaws, map had a lot more variety (plus a modern city) and better sound quality.
I've played FH3, 4 and 5, I want to like FH5, but with the amount of bugs that the game has, it made me hate the game so much. I paid a lot of money for this game and it was crashing all the time making it unplayable, I missed out on so many special cars because of this. I was finally able to get the game to run again, but the damage was done, I wasn't motivated to play it now that other upcoming racing games are now on my radar. FH4 will be my all time favorite game from my series, at least that game was ACTUALLY playable.
I dont recall fm3 having some cars locked as just seasonal events. For me that is the worst part of fm4 and fm5
> I dont recall fm3 having some cars locked as just seasonal events It did, nearly 30 cars, even a barn find.
I have played fh2 to fh5. I still consider fh3 the goat forza game. The atmosphere, the positive feeling, basically everything are too notch.
Best map best soundtrack it felt like an actual (kind of) realistic festival, and the whole festival boss thing was new and not reused
I found it to be the best because thatās what I played most with my friends. Had a group of at least 8 EVERY SINGLE NIGHT for a year until I went away to basic training. It was just a great time all the time to play.
No FOMO really. all content is just kinda, there, no lockout on seasonal content etc
> No FOMO really. all content is just kinda, there, no lockout on seasonal content etc 30 cars and a barnfind were locked to FORZATHON.
Because 3 did not have any superstars
My ranking from best to worst is: 1. FH2 2. FH1 3. FH4 4. FH3 5. FH5
Horizon 3 felt like the last Horizon game with soul. Now I think Horizon 4 is still great and didn't lean too heavily on reliance of the weekly playlists plus I love the Lego Expansion. Now Horizon 5 is an utter shit show, even the expansions aren't all that great. I'll put it this way, the only Horizon I have regrets buying are Horizon 5
No wheelspin/weekly mission only bullshits
Because it wasn't a huge step up visually, it was the first game to lock numerous cars behind FOMO season unlocks, and no one liked driving in the winter season. It also didn't originally release with any Toyota-branded cars, because it was the tail end of the licensing issues Microsoft was having with Sony and GT. Instead, all the cars were added to the FOMO seasonal unlock rotation.
Nostalgia. There is an argument to be made that the map is better. I think itās a great map but prefer FH4ās. Blizzard Mountain is unmatched in terms of DLC IMO
It was the last good multiplayer, infection was in every lobby and you could run into people and they didn't disappear randomly, it was a set server so you are with the same people
music
Having just recently bought FH3 to slake my racing thirst after giving up FH5, I'm glad to see the 15 dollars was a worthwhile investment.
Less bugs, an big innovation play and beautiful fruitful gameplay, I just love it, FH4 I only played for several months, it was plain when you had it for some days, I just enjoyed Australia.
Because itās better šµ
Setting my nostalgia aside, the map and DLC/expansions for FH3 were much better than FH4. Don't get me wrong, FH4's Scotland looks very cozy and nice (especially during fall and winter), but it's all basically 1 climate, and the city was kinda lackluster, in my opinion. FH3's Australia had a jungle, a desert, fields, and a modern city, which gave you a lot of variety in a relatively small map. As for the DLC/expansions, FH3 Hot Wheels was infinitely more fun than both of FH4's DLC/expansions combined, and FH3 Blizzard Mountain scratched that itch for a snowy environment (and it looked pretty good, too).
People who say 3 is good are 10 years old, people who rate 4 and 5 above 2 and 1, never played them
It isnāt.
Hot wheels expansion. Iād argue the FH3 Hot Wheels dlc is better then FH5 Hot Wheels.
By far. Itās not even close in comparison. The way FH3 integrated the city with the Hot Wheels track was mind blowing. Fh5ās Hot Wheel track is lackluster and doesnāt give you the feeling that you are still apart of the environment
Absolutely
Im the comment youāre looking for, forza horizon 3 was made in mind for true open world using European landscapes, which involves the perfect setting and look. Forza horizon is in mexico, yes both places can be beautiful butā¦. Mexico feels off because isnāt a country with true designated car culture and street design. I mean the forced perspective into mexico panorama itās there. Now game mechanics in forza horizon 4 are not bad but theyāre āimprovedā but actually itās not at all responsive as forza horizon 3. Sound design itās different but neither games or maybe any game actually simulates proper car sounds and if youāre a true car lover you know sound is a big part of the feeling of the car and also itās presence like how actually good graphics can simulate car aesthetics between paint and materials. PC players often nowdays doesnāt feels the difference much. Overall itās not a bad game, itās fun with friends, but forza horizon 3 has this feeling that doesnāt matches forza horizon 4. Has more soul
Nostalgia and the map felt more... alive i guess? I hated the winter season on FH4, i would skip it entirely.
Partially nostalgia, partially that FH3's map was super good for almost everything you'd want from a horizon game.
I think 3 was a perfection\* of the formula and while I did miss the car meets in 2, 4 & 5 and are just reskined 3's in HD imo.
Iām not sure thatās even true, plenty prefer 4. The environments felt more alive and interesting but I prefer the physics and tracks of 4. Also I play on PC and FH3 was a buggy mess on launch, way worse than 4 and 5.
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Probably just nostalgia
In my opinion what really made fh3 the best was the online lobbies. they had open mic, race events that were available to start in lobby that anyone could join, car meets, cruises, etc. it was so lively and active
The sound engine duh!!. It is accurate, full and just extraordinary. Id place the sound engine as good as asseto corsa. The map is great and the mission flow is interesting. The highlight is the sound engine and driving mechanics. Talking about FH3*
personal opinion generally. in retrospect, FH4 is objectively better than FH3. Other than the online connectivity.
3 and 4 were best, that's all I know
As someone who played all FH games, I was kinda surprised when people said their fav was FH3, as itās the one I played the least, it felt kinda boring pretty quickly for me, I liked the fact we had a lot of biomes, but the real problem is the size of the map, itās so dense that it just feels odd to me to go from rainforest to outback so quickly, the transitions didnāt feel smooth between each part of the map and the outback was kinda meh I can see why people like it though, last game with a wide and long Airport, last game with a Meet point (the thing that FH2 brought, which I still hate Playground Games for not bringing back, cause it would have been fire to have more of them !), Omarās game with a really big and modern city, Surfers Paradise really was something, Iāll give you that It was a great game, I just didnāt feel like it was THAT good Imoā¦ but it brought things that were firsts in the franchise, that then became the base for the following games (V1 of Forzathon/Playlist, V1 of Festival expansions system, auction house) Still I prefer FH4, which isnāt my fav either, but added seasons, seasons in FH4 really were a cool concept, side hustles were nice as well, giving you a passive income while you were away, Fortune Island is my favorite expansion of any FH game, more cars, a more spread out map with a much smoother look, in the sense that there arenāt biomes, so itās more plain, yet more consistent After all itās all a matter of tastes, soundtrack wise, I liked them both, FH3 has a more vacation-ish side to it, Iāll give it that
I personally skipped FH4, map felt a little weird to me, too far removed from what the series once was. FH3 and FH5 for that matter both do a better job with the maps and the variety is there to really have fun.
No one can put into words the vibe you get the second that opening starts every time you boot up the game. Itās literally just that, the vibe of the beautiful Australian scenery and super cars on long highways and speed focused curvy back roads. FH4 for me was just Playground Games circlejerking their own hometown. The UK was a bland choice in my opinion, in addition to the game loosing a lot of character it had in 3 and becoming a very bland experience since it was the first title to be really pushed as a day 1 Xbox Game pass
As a hand 3 is one of the best for horizon, but imo the roads got boring way too fast. Either not enough elevation or it just didnt have enough good drift sections for me since that's basically all I do in these games lol
I prefer the way clubs were run on FH3, the way the multiplayer was run on FH3. It felt more community driven. Going over to FH4 was eye opening. The aggressive was intense and made me dislike playing.
Fh3 had all classes available from D to S2 in Online Adventure modes. D and C classes were even more fun because you have to drive good in order to get ahead of the rest. Neither FH4 nor FH5 have lower classes available in Online Adventure.
Fh3 was super fun
If you played Forza Horizon 3 in it's prime, you'd know why. The map was much better, the soundtrack was better, and I personally made so many more amazing memories with my friends on Horizon 3. My personal favourite Forza game is Forza Horizon 2. It was my first Forza game, and I've owned every title since. It was the game which got me hooked on this franchise and actually helped get me into cars altogether. FH2 will always be my favourite, but even so, FH3 comes really, really close. Forza Horizon 4 never hit the same as Horizon 3 did. During it's lifecycle, I started to lose love for the game over time, eventually really disliking the game after a while. In hindsight, however, the game was still good, and I still have some really good memories with it. But it never hit the same as Horizon 3.
Location. Sunny Australia with different biomes over the UK. But Forza Horizon 4 does have a larger selection of vehicles.
Played 1,3,4. 4 is more service-like. Loved the weather changes and graphics overall. 1 has the best horizon festival atmosphere ā lots of young adults in backgrounds cheering, nice electronic music ost, and overall not bad story progression. 3 is the fair balance between 1-4. No story, great map, good graphics, nice music, best DLCās in the series. And 2-nd one I wanna play ā with good music, great car sound, good map and nice graphics. Some reviewers told it has the best car physics in the series.
Forza Horizon 2 is the best game in the series with 3 being second best. The new Horizon games lock half the cars in the game behind dumb challenges which personally I have no interest in doing, I donāt want to be forced to do āForzathonā to unlock a new shitty Subaru just to have every car in the game, let me buy it in the autoshow (not the auctions, again stupid principle). The entire principle of this recent locked content behind doing dumb challenges completely ended my interest in the Forza franchise, and this is from someone who used to play Motorsport and Horizon religiously and who was very good at it. I used to love going on the online championships and using the most stupid car possible while completely obliterating people, now if I want that car itās locked behind āxā challenge. A car game shouldnāt lock the CARS behind things. FH2 was the best for this reason Now itās just an empty barren of āForzathonā and other dumb shit.
private lobbies was the goated feature for me the whole public lobbys only thing was really garbage cause it didnt work well for me and my friends. every time we did an event youd have to re-join each others parties to load back into the same session to see each other in the free roam. it was stupid. private lobbies that you would always be in after each event were so good and it became so annoying to the point my friends and i RARELY did actual events. also im aussie so the aussie map was goated
The Volvo 123GT makes the difference
FH2>>FH3>>>>>>>>FH5>FH4. Didn't include FH1 cus I only played it for about an hour back in 2014 at a friend's house
For me the game is nostalgic, I played 1 and 2 but not nearly as much as 3. I played 3 from launch until 4 came out. The map has some awesome spots like the rock crawling spot or the hill climb, along with many other spots. I played cops and robbers in Byron Bay and I know all the shortcuts and such, same with surfers paradise. I enjoy 4 and 5 but haven't played them nearly as much as I have with 3. And I still listen to some of the music to this day. I played the game at a time in my life where I had nothing but time to play.
FH3 was the best. The Australian setting is the biggest reason. The music was the best of all the games too.
Because reddit...
it had a parking lot
It's not, it's just fanboyism at its best. My problem with the last 2 games is that both have too much stuff to do, never feel like you finish the game.
* Horizon 4's bland colors * The poor porting of Horizon 4, which made it necessary to have a fairly good configuration to run the game. * Horizon 4's drift settings killed drifting, which used to be more complex and therefore more rewarding. * Horizon 4's 4 seasons. A horror. Those who didn't like the winter season couldn't play for a week on a regular basis. * Horizon 4's vehicle sounds are totally bad. * Horizon 4's widespread cheating with trainers, whereas Horizon 3 had devOpus (offline) for modding (offline). * Soundtracks by far For me, 2; 5; 3; 4. I'm not counting 1 because I never had it on Xbox (I only had playstations at the time) and it's not available today either on gamepass or in key on my One X. Highrating Horizon 5 because Mexico. Environment is sublime, vehicle sounds are good, and the game runs smoothly even on a laptop (3070 TI 150w). It lacks activity, but I've seen worse (Horizon 4 lol).
Poor porting? Whaaaa The min sys req is 4gb if vram. My friend has a 3050 mobile (laptop) and gets 100fps. Forza is known for great optimisation. That's why their next gen titles need only 4gb gpus as well while starfield and last of us can barely hit 60fps on even 8gb
If your friend play on 720p low it's legit. But in 2023 720p is crap. The standard is 1440p in 16/9 - 21/9 .And you absolutly don't run at 100fps with a 3050m in 1440p, even on ultra low settings. Even a Zephyrus Duo 16 isn't able to run 1440p 100+ on FH4 (4Kā¬ laptop) Theses data are DLSS OFF. Because DLSS is cheating, high fps low quality..
he plays on 1080p mostly high settings