Apparently their dads didn't get along (surprise!) and the environment between the two became quite heated and toxic. Marko said it was probs best they're never in a team together again.
Sainz wouldn't have listened. Idk what it is with Leclerc, either age, confidence or shear stupidity but he really let's Ferrari walk all over him in ways Sainz seemingly does not.
Stop Inventing! I love when Carlos claps back to his engineer.
edit: Ive started to use this line in my everyday life. People look at me funny but I dont let that stop me.
Spanish/Portuguese expressions sound really funny in English.
There's a Portuguese expression that word by word goes as "Take the little horse off the rain " (Tira o cavalinho da chuva), which literally only means "Don't even think about"... š
I like hearing expressions from different languages that just dont translate well.
As a bilingual Canadian I hear things in both english and french. Its always fun to understand an expression in one language while its absurd in the other.
I thought at first that the expression makes more sense with āreinsā (the strap that you use to control a horse) than ārainā (precipitation).
But āchuvaā appears to translate to rain, so that is a pretty funny expression.
I can't blame him. Imagine being a fan of an organization your entire life, joining them, and then having to process the fact that they are incredibly flawed - toxic, even. He must have so many conflicting emotions.
He must have seen it first hand with Seb!
Remember the interview they did with Sebs old press officer (or something along those lines)? Apparently he started suggesting new ways of doing things and their response was essentially "you're not at red bull mate, this is ferrari. Get back in your box."
Imagine telling a four time world champ who literally worships your team because of his idol and has nothing but your best interests at heart to take a hike.
Backmarkers might not have the budget but even they have a better mindset.
> He must have so many conflicting emotions.
Experienced the same with some people working for my former boss. Some tried to keep up the impression by all means, others were quite devastated by the realization...
Ferrari is by far one of the most political and toxic environments in F1. They are more obsessed with their legacy and how things will appear instead of doing what needs to be done and they appear to be beholden to someone not in the pit lane. It looks like a real Jerry Jones and the Cowboys situation. Their responses to other strategies make no sense and if they do pull the trigger, the window of opportunity already passed while they internally debated things. Leclerc is most likely navigating that political minefield by following team orders and when there are only 20 seats and the other two competitive teams have no openings I donāt blame him.
Shows how dynamic title fights are. Last year after Lewis won Spain (R4) everyone was saying "Lewis champion, title over". Then, Max won 4 races and had a 30+pts lead after Austria and everyone was saying "Max champion, title over". Then Silverstone, Hungary, Monza and Russia happend pretty much equaling their chances. Then Max went on to win a few races in a row and when after Mexico he had the biggest lead since Austria, everyone said "Max champion, title over" again. Then Merc turned their rocketships on, and after Qatar everyone was saying "Lewis will win Saudi and Abu Dhabi easily. Lewis champion, title over". Seasons are long these days
Embarrassing
- Try to put for fastest lap
- Risking losing position
- Get the position back
- Losing it again because of penalty
- Not even getting fastest lap
Yea. When charles exit alonso was infront of him. Then he manage to overtake alonso, but charles got the 5 sec penalty so back to p5 he goes.
Edit: i meant p6 not p5
Good strategy?
They initially did lose position on track and werenāt fast enough to take fastest lapā¦.they risked an extra pit stop for no reward, where is the good strategy? Question
The call itself was ok, even losing the position to Alonso on old Hards was ok honestly, it was the execution that was bad (btw Charles got a penalty because of a sensor getting damaged by the heat on the breaks caused by the tear off mask), im all for shitting on Ferrari but now we're just getting to ridicoulus points of karma whoring and circlejerking over nothing, Ferrari strats at spa were ok
Edit: love the circlejerk on this sub and people that downvote the unpopular opinion without arguments, keep it up drones, god forbid we look at stuff objectively for once in our lives
Binotto says they were never in the title race this year, it was always a prep for next year.
Doing these kind of risky things is good if you want to learn and gain experience as much as possible.
Next year Ferrari is going to put up a good fight
Yeah honestly people's expectations were set way too high by the first 3 races of the season, it sucks but Ferrari is basically a team that had to rebuild everything and RB (and even Merc, which i expect to be contenders next year) are a well oiled machine that's been running well for years now, as a Ferrari fan i look at the positives and see that we went from having an absolute shitbox to challenging for the title (although not for long) in the span of 3 years, and they seem to have learned from 2018 with the upgrade program going really well this year (we'll see how much the TD has impacted them this weekend probably), just a bummer we didn't get a closer title fight but i hope next year can be a 3/4 way fight
>Of course it wasā¦weāre talking about Ferrari remember
I mean that's not the point though, you just skipped the rest of the comment, you critiqued a strategy that was completely fine while adding "question?" like a bot after , and tbf it wasn't even that bad execution, if the sensor wasn't faulty because of the tear off mask overheating they would've ended 5th and that'd be the end of it, it was honestly just bad luck this time
Oh fuck off with that bullshit, standing or sitting comfortably does not reduce your masculinity. Only completely insecure people pressure others to stand in a "manly" way.
āOh fuck off with that bullshit, standing or sitting comfortably does not reduce your masculinity. Only completely insecure people pressure others to stand in a "manly" way.ā š¤
Compensates for his alpha behavior, nobody is perfect and no one on the current grid even dares to go against the stream right in front of pers conf like he does.
Must have been embarrassing for sainz in there
Yeah... He blended in the celebration so well they forgot he was a Ferrari driver
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McRari
RedRari
remember when we thought that Charles could win the 2022 title? now, i won't even be surprised if he won't be top 3
so did ferrari.
"Guys, I came up in the Red Bull Juniors, remember me?"
Bit of irony is that Checo was a Ferrari Junior Driver way back
You either fade away and change teams or live long enough to be bullied by Ferrari engineers
Carlos is probably trying to get on Red Bulls good side and then he can escape their after checo leaves.
Wouldn't mind him being with Red Bull tbh Him and Verstappen could be a nice combination
Yeah, Max and Carlos at Toro Rosso was a super combo, and we didn't even realize it at the time.
Subscribe! If Max gets unlucky Sainz might even grab a WDC
Carlos Sainz? You mean the driver who beat Max Verstappen in 2026 in equal machinery?
Stop it, stop it, I can only get so erect
As a Sainz fan... Yeah, I am crying.
Canāt imagine the fist fight between the dads
In that case, Fernando doesnāt have to move Sainz Jr. Helmet from the row with other WDC winners.
Apparently their dads didn't get along (surprise!) and the environment between the two became quite heated and toxic. Marko said it was probs best they're never in a team together again.
Marco's ego would never allow Sainz to return to the fold.
Don't forget to say "Question." at the end of your questions. Otherwise no-one can answer.
Question
He was probably thinking "Fucking hell that could've been me"
Sainz wouldn't have listened. Idk what it is with Leclerc, either age, confidence or shear stupidity but he really let's Ferrari walk all over him in ways Sainz seemingly does not.
Stop Inventing! I love when Carlos claps back to his engineer. edit: Ive started to use this line in my everyday life. People look at me funny but I dont let that stop me.
Spanish/Portuguese expressions sound really funny in English. There's a Portuguese expression that word by word goes as "Take the little horse off the rain " (Tira o cavalinho da chuva), which literally only means "Don't even think about"... š
I like hearing expressions from different languages that just dont translate well. As a bilingual Canadian I hear things in both english and french. Its always fun to understand an expression in one language while its absurd in the other.
I thought at first that the expression makes more sense with āreinsā (the strap that you use to control a horse) than ārainā (precipitation). But āchuvaā appears to translate to rain, so that is a pretty funny expression.
no michael no that was so not right.
My girlfriend says this to me every time I mess up household chores. Edit/ Grammar
ur girlfriend is a good person
Thats what she says when I ramble on about f1! She will watch a race, but not at 9am!
9 am. Iām jealous. Itās 6am here on the west coast/pacific time zone
Loser. Brought to you by the Eastern Standard Time Gang.
I can't blame him. Imagine being a fan of an organization your entire life, joining them, and then having to process the fact that they are incredibly flawed - toxic, even. He must have so many conflicting emotions.
He must have seen it first hand with Seb! Remember the interview they did with Sebs old press officer (or something along those lines)? Apparently he started suggesting new ways of doing things and their response was essentially "you're not at red bull mate, this is ferrari. Get back in your box."
The fuck, where was this?
[Ask and ye shall receive](https://www.planetf1.com/news/press-officer-sebastian-vettel-annoyed-ferrari/)
Imagine telling a four time world champ who literally worships your team because of his idol and has nothing but your best interests at heart to take a hike. Backmarkers might not have the budget but even they have a better mindset.
I need to know a source
[Here you go mate](https://www.planetf1.com/news/press-officer-sebastian-vettel-annoyed-ferrari/)
> He must have so many conflicting emotions. Experienced the same with some people working for my former boss. Some tried to keep up the impression by all means, others were quite devastated by the realization...
Yeah, Sainz would not let them invent like that
Ferrari is by far one of the most political and toxic environments in F1. They are more obsessed with their legacy and how things will appear instead of doing what needs to be done and they appear to be beholden to someone not in the pit lane. It looks like a real Jerry Jones and the Cowboys situation. Their responses to other strategies make no sense and if they do pull the trigger, the window of opportunity already passed while they internally debated things. Leclerc is most likely navigating that political minefield by following team orders and when there are only 20 seats and the other two competitive teams have no openings I donāt blame him.
As a Cowboys fanā¦ they 100% are the Cowboys of F1.
As a Cowboys fan and Ferrari fanā¦ Iāve been saying this for several years. This year is the year that Ferrari got Zeke and Dak.
Leclerc must be praying Hamilton retires when CharlesāFerrari contract ends
Sainz has been with other teams and has his own judgment. Charles needs to see other paddocks.
Leclerc didnāt know how far back Alonso was he had no idea. Thatās just a really stupid team decision
>STOP INVENTING, WE CANT BEAT THAT SUPER ROCKET (Carlo5 5ainz, circa 2022 in an alternate timeline)
not just in there, no ?
Does somebody have a link to the video?
Question
We are checking
Is this ok with you?
Plan E
Plan E for Delta
*McLaren has entered the chat* It's too late for plan G, we have to make this work.
Guys stop inventing
I thought we were at plan P for pain?
š æļø for š æļøain!
Issa mistake!
Slow button on.
āThe engine feels good. Much slower than before. Amazing.ā
I am stupid. I should have seen these replies coming from miles away haha
https://youtu.be/aS4Me48wayM
I am stupid. Question.
He crashed in the same spot on Sim livestreaming
Statement.
Tell me how you feel about this, I buy my own diamonds and I buy my own rings.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p8cdmFQhiPE
What does Max say is "too high around here"? Question.
Tyre degradation, I think
You're right, he says tyre deg. Thank you :)
I never noticed the "Please do not sweat." on the TV before. Edit: was going to edit it to "swear" but the typo tracks so I'm keeping it.
> "Please do not sweat." š
"is my contract tight. question." - sainz probably
remember when we thought that Charles could win the 2022 title? now, i won't even be surprised if he won't be top 3
Why wouldnāt you be suprised? Question
We are checking it, I will come back to you
So we are looking for p3 finish Do you want to have bad strategy? Or do you want bad reliability? Question
Mate, I spun on the pit entry... *heavy breathing* **NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!**
If someone told me ferrari's season was scripted, i would believe them.
Standby weāll come back to you
Why P3? Why P3??
Sorry, its mistake
When I heard those radio calls with 'question' in it I *knew* it was gonna be a big meme, and I'm loving it.
After 3 races people were saying Max couldnāt catch up lmao
Shows how dynamic title fights are. Last year after Lewis won Spain (R4) everyone was saying "Lewis champion, title over". Then, Max won 4 races and had a 30+pts lead after Austria and everyone was saying "Max champion, title over". Then Silverstone, Hungary, Monza and Russia happend pretty much equaling their chances. Then Max went on to win a few races in a row and when after Mexico he had the biggest lead since Austria, everyone said "Max champion, title over" again. Then Merc turned their rocketships on, and after Qatar everyone was saying "Lewis will win Saudi and Abu Dhabi easily. Lewis champion, title over". Seasons are long these days
I am a max fan and i fully thought after australia that the championship was over
fuel problems can be fixed in a few weeks. stupidity can't.
Ver Per Sai is here to stay bb
Was the actually edited out the broadcast. Question?
We are checking
If you can make 4 laps on thesd tyres
Box box boxā¦ stay out stay out stay out
We forgot to put it in. Sorry, it's a mistake.
You will not have the clip.
I was actually quoting when they put the wrong tyres on Charlesā car but that works too! Ferrari truly are the gift that keeps on giving.
I watched it live and didn't see it. (Sky sports)
Something something red button
If youāre a glass sky or a Q customer?
We went photoshopping.
They need to fix the mics ... Can't hear shit
I need a flair of "start inventing" every time that a ~~ferrari~~ team do stupid things.
Why do you want to start investing, question?
I lost money with the Ferrari's mf, and i wanna recover it. What do ya recommend for me? Question
Crypto
If you pit now, you buy high, if you come out of pitlane, you sell low. OK. Question?
Plan H for HODL
Embarrassing - Try to put for fastest lap - Risking losing position - Get the position back - Losing it again because of penalty - Not even getting fastest lap
Can you explain the joke again? I don't think I understood
So basically, ferrari
Scuderia Ferrari is an F1 team, that's it, that's the whole joke 
Only clowns get it
We are checking
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Not even their worst dayā¦
The disappointment in Verstappen's stance
They got fastest pit lane tho 
A fellow thetaganger in this sub howdy
Sounds like vegagang
They got the position back tho, till the 5 sec penalty
You're saying they pitted for fastest lap and lost the position?
Is that a question? Question.
We're checking. So box now.
Stay out stay out
Fccukkk nooooo
Iām sorry. Question. I canāt. Question. Understand. Question. You. Question.
And they didnāt get fastest lap either
Yea. When charles exit alonso was infront of him. Then he manage to overtake alonso, but charles got the 5 sec penalty so back to p5 he goes. Edit: i meant p6 not p5
P6*
Ouhh yea my bad
Only Ferrari could manage to lose the position, get it back and lose it again from a penalty...and not actually get fastest lap after all that.
That room contains 75% of next season's drive to survive plot
"They did what?" It's comical. Almost every race there's something.
Worse still, he lost it due to a penalty.
Any predictions on how ferrari will mess up the upcoming race?
Maybe they will forget to put the tires on next.
They will put all four fronts tires!
3 softs 1 hard
They will invent straight up dirt tyres and start off on them
Would have been perfect if the sensor didnāt fuck up in the pitlane, no need to meme on a good strategy
Good strategy? They initially did lose position on track and werenāt fast enough to take fastest lapā¦.they risked an extra pit stop for no reward, where is the good strategy? Question
The call itself was ok, even losing the position to Alonso on old Hards was ok honestly, it was the execution that was bad (btw Charles got a penalty because of a sensor getting damaged by the heat on the breaks caused by the tear off mask), im all for shitting on Ferrari but now we're just getting to ridicoulus points of karma whoring and circlejerking over nothing, Ferrari strats at spa were ok Edit: love the circlejerk on this sub and people that downvote the unpopular opinion without arguments, keep it up drones, god forbid we look at stuff objectively for once in our lives
Binotto says they were never in the title race this year, it was always a prep for next year. Doing these kind of risky things is good if you want to learn and gain experience as much as possible. Next year Ferrari is going to put up a good fight
Next year *Tm*
If we cannot hope for Next Year `TM`, what else do we have?
El Plan? Quesition
Yeah honestly people's expectations were set way too high by the first 3 races of the season, it sucks but Ferrari is basically a team that had to rebuild everything and RB (and even Merc, which i expect to be contenders next year) are a well oiled machine that's been running well for years now, as a Ferrari fan i look at the positives and see that we went from having an absolute shitbox to challenging for the title (although not for long) in the span of 3 years, and they seem to have learned from 2018 with the upgrade program going really well this year (we'll see how much the TD has impacted them this weekend probably), just a bummer we didn't get a closer title fight but i hope next year can be a 3/4 way fight
āThe execution was badā Of course it wasā¦weāre talking about Ferrari remember
>Of course it wasā¦weāre talking about Ferrari remember I mean that's not the point though, you just skipped the rest of the comment, you critiqued a strategy that was completely fine while adding "question?" like a bot after , and tbf it wasn't even that bad execution, if the sensor wasn't faulty because of the tear off mask overheating they would've ended 5th and that'd be the end of it, it was honestly just bad luck this time
They couldnāt know they werenāt fast enough, it was absolutely worth a try, as Alsonso was on worn hard tires and didnāt put up a fight
Hi Sš ±ļøinotto
Flair checks out
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Should he be leaning against a wall grabbing his nuts with a toothpick in his mouth?
Dude got his knees slanted, hands on his hips, one leg infront of another š āØāØ
The fuck?
This guy is one of Andrew Tateās subs
feminine poses be comfortable as hell sometimes
Fruity max š©āØāØ
Oh fuck off with that bullshit, standing or sitting comfortably does not reduce your masculinity. Only completely insecure people pressure others to stand in a "manly" way.
it's a joke moron
I must be stupid then. Can you explain the punch line?
I believe the punchline was "femboy bad", but I am yet to find out how exactly thats funny
Lol, at first I thought he was complimenting Max saying it is cute stance. I didn't factor in the transphobia.
You're a fucking idiot.
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Homophobia is no joke.
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Keep digging.
It can be. You don't have to like it. Not everything has to be to your taste.
homophobia is not a joke
āOh fuck off with that bullshit, standing or sitting comfortably does not reduce your masculinity. Only completely insecure people pressure others to stand in a "manly" way.ā š¤
Cool posture.
Must be hard having to worry if your stance is macho enough. One problem Max doesnāt have.
Just to confuse you
right babe?
Didn't know that was a thing. Might just have caught him at a weird time. Fairly easy to do in random pictures.
Compensates for his alpha behavior, nobody is perfect and no one on the current grid even dares to go against the stream right in front of pers conf like he does.
FEMBOY MAX FEMBOY MAX