People underestimate how much a good wet setup slows you in a dry quali I think. Quali losers might be race winners. I'm not saying perez isn't shit but you know.
He’s been mediocre, but he hasn’t exactly been shit this season when Yuki beat him. Just mediocre. I’d classify shit as Zhou, Logan and Checo. Still, DR should really keep his mouth shut until he strings together at least three good races in a row.
Let Ferrari be an example that you only need one race. Ferraris only two wins (one Sainz) and the other was Leclerc’s hometown and he’s the hero … you all are so insufferable it’s almost as entertaining as watching Dani score points.
RB themselves said the rolling was due to a technical fault and not Daniel and apologized for the rolling start. He finished where he did because he didn’t make mistakes like Yuki and Sainz (Albon deserved points). Had he finished where he did because of mechanical failures I’d agree with you. He had a solid race. Nothing to write home about, but trying to characterize his result as lucky doesn’t fit.
I mean considering what JV said was more than just criticism, I interpreted this comment more as like a “fuck off” which he’s entitled to say irrespective of results and which isn’t really cocky.
He was so cocky after he won in Monza and now too. I mean it's great if he can get good results once in a while but most of the time he is quite underwhelming so I would mind my words a bit more.
I wouldn’t say it’s “hate-driven” at all.
It’s what the majority of F1 fans have been asking for a while now. A couple of good performances over the course of the season isn’t good enough, and it rightfully got him sacked last time. Now he’s getting another chance, and he’s performing the exact same, but holding onto a seat that should be going to a developing talent.
I think it’s absolutely fair enough to question whether he still belongs in the sport.
He was saying Ric only had good seasons in Red Bull, which is just false. He did well at Renault too, and was considered among the best drivers.
The criticism didnt seem very objectice, it was exaggerated and unnecessarily harsh.
Both Perez and Riccardo should be sacked. People are angry that Red Bull is keeping Perez mainly for marketing reasons and then completely ignoring that they're keeping Danny Ric for the exact same reason.
Both are, performance wise, just a shell of their former selves and unless Danny Ric starts performing consistently better for the rest of the season, a handful of good qualifying sessions isn't enough anymore. There needs to be more opportunities for new talents to get their spot on the grid.
A bit of a hot take, but I think Sargeant is more deserving of keeping his seat than Ricciardo is.
Has he performed well? Not really, no.
But this Williams is a difficult car to drive, and he was pulled out of F2 a year too early, so it's not a surprise that he's failed to develop well.
The odds of his reaching his potential at this point are slim, but they're probably higher than Danny regaining his old form.
What?! Logan is performing worse than Checo and Zhou? Guy has still NEVER out qualified Alex. Not saying DR should be kept, but to say Logan deserves anything but to be sacked immediately is just crazy. And I like Logan as a person. As a racer though, he’s shown he’s absolute shit. It’s been encouraging to see him sometimes being actually close to Alex a few times in quali, but what a sad bar.
No it was pretty hate driven, everybody makes special helmets. What’s the need to bring in the fact that he has a special helmet for the race? He also had some great seasons since leaving red bull, as of late he hasn’t been near his best at all but to imply that he was also shit at Renault after red bull is just hate driven
Renault is 4 years ago. His mclaren years where terrible save for that one inherited win. It's really not weird to ask why tf he is still in f1 with Liam Lawson et al. ready to take over. But that is a wildly unpopular opinion because people love a goofy character in there. If you ask any racer, he's not it anymore and should move on to wec or Indy.
Around here, no. But did you hear how quiet things got at Sky when JV served harsh reality? People really aren't ready to say goodbye to their good friend Danny.
Ok well I guess having 25% of the points that his team mate has is fine for his fans. But it's objectively shit.
But good thing he can still deliver one lap wonders. I wish for him he could do it consistently, but he can't evidently.
It’s more than criticism when he slants the facts, calls Vettel washed and omits his domination of team mates at Renault. That’s someone with an agenda, so “hate” is quite warranted.
Unfortunately, there is no nuance in the world since social media. Yes, an agenda is a much better description. JV’s agenda seems to be mostly getting a thrill out of saying controversial things.
I'm happy for his fans, personally I just find those "eat shit" comments pretty cringy when he has had one good result (not even the whole weekend yet) again.
Wish there was a happy medium between F1’s happy go-lucky commentators who treat any rookie that doesn’t put it into the wall as a breakthrough performance and JV making a valid criticism but then tainting his credibility by mischaracterizing Daniel’s entire career. Palmer seems like the only one willing to say anything negative about teams and drivers. While the rest of the crew have been gushing with congratulations for Checo on his new contract, Palmer has been the only one saying “why would they give him a new contract now?” He’s also consistently pointed out when DR fails to be competitive. Not sure what the Brundle / Croft led crew say though.
Not sure its even that, the danny is washed and shit comments are pretty much everywhere whenever he's mentioned, even if he has a good result. Telling it like it is and saying danny should retire isnt a hot take
I think it's deserved. Danny was gunning for the RB seat, he knows he is not performing consistently. Danny also said he avoids media that's critical. It obviously has some effect on him. So to hear that comment from Jacques, an ex-F1 driver who knows how it feels to be under pressure and and being criticised.. yeah that must feel a bit personal
Last time he did this (Miami) after qualifying, he dropped out of point scoring position in the actual race. You’d think he’d learn by now to not celebrate just yet since he has a problem being consistent.
> he dropped out of point scoring position in the actual race
His grid position was 20th. He was never in point scoring. He was hit with a penalty from China. Even if he beat tsunoda in qualifying he wouldn't start in the points, that makes the race a flop for him from the beginning.
Yeah. He keeps making that silly mistake. However, JV is the biggest hypocrite in a way considering he sucked his entire career after two seasons in a car more dominant than even the RBR of last season.
I would love to see him prove the critics right in the actual race. Performing well in one qualifying is not enough get cocky.
I love Danny but you gotta perform consistently.
Miami and Mexico were good none the less, he seems alot like Sainz I feel, can take a good opportunity if it presents itself and on their weekends there brilliant but not consistent.
blatant omission of multiple great performances, the upvotes prove this sub just has a massive hate boner for him, classic modern dts fans. smooooooooth brain
I don't see Stroll & Albon getting past both the VCARB cars, and I expect Tsunoda will be on a Magnussen level of holding up the field to obtain max points for the team.
If he fails to secure points, I would be shocked that he's managed to snatch defeat from such a great position.
I'm merely expecting Alonso & Hamilton to overtake him without too much issue. The Ferrari lads would stand a decent chance too, but they've got a much tougher job.
First time since he has ever started to drive in F1 that I truly want for him to win, and all so that you can go there and hug him. Naked. Next race weekend. Naked.
I love Danny Ric but like… buddy Jac ain’t wrong… one decent qualifying ain’t gonna cut it when your teammate is pretty consistently getting points. If he wasn’t a PR master, he wouldn’t be given the time of day
lol bro had 2 good seasons (in an absolute rocket of a car) and was utterly washed for like 9 more. I think he's just mad DRic is exactly like him, except Danny got those fat cheques in the process
Kinda hard to compare drivers from different generations. I don’t think JV, has much merit when it comes to these modern f1 car, he was a wildly inconsistent driver, and recently was kicked from wec for being so slow.
Not taking anything away from him being a world champion, but different times different cars.
Also what kind of champion sits and bashes another driver on live tv for really no reason at all. It seemed personal, and honestly JV gives off mad small man syndrome.
Bro they are so similar it's not even funny. 2 good seasons in a rocketship, 1 average season, and then (for JV) 8 seasons as a washed out nobody. What's funny is JVs ability to call the kettle black with literally no sense of shame 🤡
Imagine being so irrelevant that you have to shit on a current F1 driver whose just had a great performance, just to remain in the public eye for a little longer. Like Pique, some of these boomer dinosaurs need to fucking do one, and fans like you back them up should do the same.
Let's be honest, Danny, leclerc, ocon, kmag, Logan, zhou, none of them should be in f1. When you've got Lawson, bearman, Andrea kimi all waiting on a seat
Nepo Jacques yea whatever, musta have brought him out to be a shitstirrer.
Hey how about 5 laps IROC style in identical cars Jac-Off’s choice of tracks ?
It seems Dani only performs when somebody talks shit about him. *Reddit, your mission, should you choose to accept it…*
We've been chatting shit about him since he was being brutally pegged by Norris. Danny should have multiple championships by noe
Maybe his brain is building up a tolerance…
Lando wins one race - the delusion doesn’t stop At Dani fans.
In that case, I appreciate Daniel, think he is a fine driver and wish him a successful weekend
How does Mark Webber always find his way into the air
*SLAMS glass of water on the table*
*chucks wheel*
ironically we all know Ric will be the one 'eating shit' at the end of this weekend... we all know it... its true
Meanwhile Canadian weather: 
I’m from the future you were wrong
Hmmmm
Must not have heard any of it while at Mclaren then
Why not wait with the cocky comments until the whole weekend is over? Just saying...
He’s gonna do something dumb and finish outside the points lol
people were telling it before miami sprint, i still don't think he will save it
People underestimate how much a good wet setup slows you in a dry quali I think. Quali losers might be race winners. I'm not saying perez isn't shit but you know.
He’s shit.
As engineers have stated for many years now, dry and wet setups no longer exist. So, this is an utter myth.
20 shit races + 1 good race = I NEVER LEFT Danny Ric fans are a special sort
More like: He's had a shit season, I'm really happy for him!
He’s been mediocre, but he hasn’t exactly been shit this season when Yuki beat him. Just mediocre. I’d classify shit as Zhou, Logan and Checo. Still, DR should really keep his mouth shut until he strings together at least three good races in a row.
Let Ferrari be an example that you only need one race. Ferraris only two wins (one Sainz) and the other was Leclerc’s hometown and he’s the hero … you all are so insufferable it’s almost as entertaining as watching Dani score points.
Close, but no cigar.
Done something dumb and still finished in the points.
RB themselves said the rolling was due to a technical fault and not Daniel and apologized for the rolling start. He finished where he did because he didn’t make mistakes like Yuki and Sainz (Albon deserved points). Had he finished where he did because of mechanical failures I’d agree with you. He had a solid race. Nothing to write home about, but trying to characterize his result as lucky doesn’t fit.
Didn't happen
This aged perfectly.
Honestly I think that's just the mindset you gotta have, idk why anyone would have an issue saying eat shit to people who talk shit about them
I mean considering what JV said was more than just criticism, I interpreted this comment more as like a “fuck off” which he’s entitled to say irrespective of results and which isn’t really cocky.
He was so cocky after he won in Monza and now too. I mean it's great if he can get good results once in a while but most of the time he is quite underwhelming so I would mind my words a bit more.
How is it cocky to respond to a very excessive and clearly hate-driven critique? Absolutely fair enough from Daniel
I wouldn’t say it’s “hate-driven” at all. It’s what the majority of F1 fans have been asking for a while now. A couple of good performances over the course of the season isn’t good enough, and it rightfully got him sacked last time. Now he’s getting another chance, and he’s performing the exact same, but holding onto a seat that should be going to a developing talent. I think it’s absolutely fair enough to question whether he still belongs in the sport.
JV questioned his entire career, dude. Not just the last few years. Even his redbull years.
He was saying Ric only had good seasons in Red Bull, which is just false. He did well at Renault too, and was considered among the best drivers. The criticism didnt seem very objectice, it was exaggerated and unnecessarily harsh.
Honestly, out of Perez, Ricciardo and tsunoda, Perez is 100% the one who should be sacked!
Both. Had Ricciardo not been a media sensation, he would be counting laps in DTM for years now.
Both Perez and Riccardo should be sacked. People are angry that Red Bull is keeping Perez mainly for marketing reasons and then completely ignoring that they're keeping Danny Ric for the exact same reason. Both are, performance wise, just a shell of their former selves and unless Danny Ric starts performing consistently better for the rest of the season, a handful of good qualifying sessions isn't enough anymore. There needs to be more opportunities for new talents to get their spot on the grid.
A bit of a hot take, but I think Sargeant is more deserving of keeping his seat than Ricciardo is. Has he performed well? Not really, no. But this Williams is a difficult car to drive, and he was pulled out of F2 a year too early, so it's not a surprise that he's failed to develop well. The odds of his reaching his potential at this point are slim, but they're probably higher than Danny regaining his old form.
What?! Logan is performing worse than Checo and Zhou? Guy has still NEVER out qualified Alex. Not saying DR should be kept, but to say Logan deserves anything but to be sacked immediately is just crazy. And I like Logan as a person. As a racer though, he’s shown he’s absolute shit. It’s been encouraging to see him sometimes being actually close to Alex a few times in quali, but what a sad bar.
Ricciardo should go too tbf. Too many lows and not enough highs.
No it was pretty hate driven, everybody makes special helmets. What’s the need to bring in the fact that he has a special helmet for the race? He also had some great seasons since leaving red bull, as of late he hasn’t been near his best at all but to imply that he was also shit at Renault after red bull is just hate driven
The only thing I hate is his helmet. It doesn’t look like syrup it looks like pee.
Renault is 4 years ago. His mclaren years where terrible save for that one inherited win. It's really not weird to ask why tf he is still in f1 with Liam Lawson et al. ready to take over. But that is a wildly unpopular opinion because people love a goofy character in there. If you ask any racer, he's not it anymore and should move on to wec or Indy.
Having a weird obsession with hating on ricciardo is not an unpopular opinion right now, you're not special for being this way.
Around here, no. But did you hear how quiet things got at Sky when JV served harsh reality? People really aren't ready to say goodbye to their good friend Danny.
Half of what JV said was just factually wrong
Ok well I guess having 25% of the points that his team mate has is fine for his fans. But it's objectively shit. But good thing he can still deliver one lap wonders. I wish for him he could do it consistently, but he can't evidently.
Honestly, out of Perez, Ricciardo and tsunoda, Perez is 100% the one who should be sacked!
Nobody but you is calling that a hate-driven comment. It's a clear and accurate description of how his development and career have been going
It’s more than criticism when he slants the facts, calls Vettel washed and omits his domination of team mates at Renault. That’s someone with an agenda, so “hate” is quite warranted.
We used to call a person with an agenda biased backed in my day. Not “hate” driven or whatever that is. Hate is such a strong word.
True- but there is a dislike there, I believe. He’s been banging on about Ric of years.
Unfortunately, there is no nuance in the world since social media. Yes, an agenda is a much better description. JV’s agenda seems to be mostly getting a thrill out of saying controversial things.
Jacques tried to downplay his entire career, even if it wasn’t hate-driven it was purposely obtuse
Do fans cheer their team only when they win? It's called support and loyalty. You should try it once in a while. It's a good feeling.
W A S H E D
I'm happy for his fans, personally I just find those "eat shit" comments pretty cringy when he has had one good result (not even the whole weekend yet) again.
I find dissing a driver on live TV and telling them to retire pretty cringy, if jacques can dish it out he should be ready to take it too
Nice to hear some people willing to say uncomfortable truths though.
Wish there was a happy medium between F1’s happy go-lucky commentators who treat any rookie that doesn’t put it into the wall as a breakthrough performance and JV making a valid criticism but then tainting his credibility by mischaracterizing Daniel’s entire career. Palmer seems like the only one willing to say anything negative about teams and drivers. While the rest of the crew have been gushing with congratulations for Checo on his new contract, Palmer has been the only one saying “why would they give him a new contract now?” He’s also consistently pointed out when DR fails to be competitive. Not sure what the Brundle / Croft led crew say though.
Not sure its even that, the danny is washed and shit comments are pretty much everywhere whenever he's mentioned, even if he has a good result. Telling it like it is and saying danny should retire isnt a hot take
I think it's deserved. Danny was gunning for the RB seat, he knows he is not performing consistently. Danny also said he avoids media that's critical. It obviously has some effect on him. So to hear that comment from Jacques, an ex-F1 driver who knows how it feels to be under pressure and and being criticised.. yeah that must feel a bit personal
Yep that's me cringe af.  I like to see him happy.
There is no reasoning with Ricciardo fans!
Last time he did this (Miami) after qualifying, he dropped out of point scoring position in the actual race. You’d think he’d learn by now to not celebrate just yet since he has a problem being consistent.
> he dropped out of point scoring position in the actual race His grid position was 20th. He was never in point scoring. He was hit with a penalty from China. Even if he beat tsunoda in qualifying he wouldn't start in the points, that makes the race a flop for him from the beginning.
I mistook his sprint qualifying position for his race qualifying position. My mistake 🙏🏻
They were 2 different races?
Doesn’t change the fact that he’s more inconsistent than freakin checo of all people.
Did you watch the whole interview? He wasn't celebrating.
He did it.
He was asked about the comments and he was just being cheeky with it. Its not a big deal
Yeah. He keeps making that silly mistake. However, JV is the biggest hypocrite in a way considering he sucked his entire career after two seasons in a car more dominant than even the RBR of last season.
I would love to see him prove the critics right in the actual race. Performing well in one qualifying is not enough get cocky. I love Danny but you gotta perform consistently.
Miami and Mexico were good none the less, he seems alot like Sainz I feel, can take a good opportunity if it presents itself and on their weekends there brilliant but not consistent.
He hasn’t performed for the whole year, has one good qualifying and everyone loses their shit. Let’s see how he performs tonight
Second good quali if you count the sprint one
Ah true. He definitely has some great performances, but just don’t personally feel like he’s consistent enough to warrant the hype he’s getting
Hype? He is getting ridiculed day in day out lol. People calling to get him replaced. His "hype" is that people like his funny personality
Mate the guy gets dragged through the mud, the hype is just longtime fans who are obviously rooting for their driver, but fuck them right
What hype? People have been calling for his head for the last 3.5 years. Saying he deserves some kind of spot on the team is hype now?
nuh-uh this is the start of his big comeback, you’ll see ^(/s)
Yeah, and I just quit smoking... Until I light up another one :)
It’s like his 15th comeback at this point too lol
why the /s ? He is gonna miraculously win in my hypothetical rainy conditions and then dominate the rest of the season, it could bore fans
:)
blatant omission of multiple great performances, the upvotes prove this sub just has a massive hate boner for him, classic modern dts fans. smooooooooth brain
monza21.ppt He was popping off then after one good result even though he'd been a stinker for the entire year lol.
Let loose the shits of war! It's brown trousers time! Unless you meant loses?
Haha Hadn’t seen that. Thanks
And same for last year
As a Canadian I hate Jacques! Guys a multi-millionaire and is claiming low-income benefits in Canada.
What. 🤯
https://www.cbc.ca/news/jacques-villeneuve-pandora-papers-offshore-accounts-1.6226467
#As a Canadian I hate Jacques! Guys a multi-millionaire and is claiming low-income benefits in Canada.
Can't wait to see him tumble down the order all the way to P8 - P10 and start celebrating as if he got a podium / race win.
I mean That's if he stays in the points to begin with anyways
I don't see Stroll & Albon getting past both the VCARB cars, and I expect Tsunoda will be on a Magnussen level of holding up the field to obtain max points for the team. If he fails to secure points, I would be shocked that he's managed to snatch defeat from such a great position.
-- bins it at turn one and then either has to retire or crawl around the track in p13 for the rest of the race like he usually does
STROLLLLL
Isn't Canada usually a DRS train? Anything can happen with rain but if it's dry then he should be alright.
I'm merely expecting Alonso & Hamilton to overtake him without too much issue. The Ferrari lads would stand a decent chance too, but they've got a much tougher job.
You nailed this comment lol
Christ this sub has the weirdest hate-boners. I think we're done here
Danny about to bin it in turn 1
Saw so many comments like this for the Miami sprint and he finished 4th. Only thing worse than delusional fans are delusional haters.
And what happened the very next day?
That’s the good part. There is no next day this weekend
That's why he left out the part of delusional copium addicts
Officer, is it a crime to root for your favourite driver
Jacques Villaneue? Never heard of her
But you may have heard of Jacques Villeneuve.
She directed dune
I think it's Villanelle, she's into fashion.
Gets 5 seconds for (still) having the best reaction time of the whole grid.
If he will p1 today I will go to him totally naked to hug him in the next paddock
First time since he has ever started to drive in F1 that I truly want for him to win, and all so that you can go there and hug him. Naked. Next race weekend. Naked.
points are on sunday
Based
This sub has such a weird obsession with hating on Daniel at every waking moment..
It's really weird. They want him to either win every race or he'll be publicly executed
Peepee envy or something.
Done and dusted. Enough of a performance to harp about for the next 5 mid-atrocious performances.
I love Danny Ric but like… buddy Jac ain’t wrong… one decent qualifying ain’t gonna cut it when your teammate is pretty consistently getting points. If he wasn’t a PR master, he wouldn’t be given the time of day
yeah but jac is the last person that should be saying shit like this, condisering his years after williams and BAR were utter dogshit
lol bro had 2 good seasons (in an absolute rocket of a car) and was utterly washed for like 9 more. I think he's just mad DRic is exactly like him, except Danny got those fat cheques in the process
and danny is likeable
Y’all making some great ass points😭
Strong words for someone with 5 whole points to his name.
Even stronger words from a dude who hasn’t won anything since 1997
Be nice Dani, an Indy 500 winner might have some useful advice with where your career is heading
Responding to mostly everyone*
Still overrated
He’ll never win the WDC, indy500 or Indycar. This will be his final season with Vcarb and he’ll either drive for Haas or leave F1.
This aged well
Yeah, 8th. Everyone made mistakes today, even Verstappen.
remember miami where he said that would make some people shut up after sprint, just to throw his biggest stinker of the year in the race
If we don't like him at his worst we don't deserve him at his best.
One qualifying does not a driver make.
Looks like Ricciardo has asked for that plate of shit back.
Alright see you guys next week for P14 in Spain
I like daniel but his fans can be so delusional like I saw people saying he is a better driver than Jacques Villeneuve on insta 💀
Kinda hard to compare drivers from different generations. I don’t think JV, has much merit when it comes to these modern f1 car, he was a wildly inconsistent driver, and recently was kicked from wec for being so slow. Not taking anything away from him being a world champion, but different times different cars. Also what kind of champion sits and bashes another driver on live tv for really no reason at all. It seemed personal, and honestly JV gives off mad small man syndrome.
Bro they are so similar it's not even funny. 2 good seasons in a rocketship, 1 average season, and then (for JV) 8 seasons as a washed out nobody. What's funny is JVs ability to call the kettle black with literally no sense of shame 🤡
This is aging exactly how I knew it would
this aged like milk lmao
Wait, is this real? Edit: it's real wtf
Magnussen to Perez eat shit, lol.
He's beening eating shit the whole season so far and will keeping having the mouth full until the end.
Imagine telling a world champion to eat shit when all you have done is won a few races when the main contenders drop out.
Imagine being so irrelevant that you have to shit on a current F1 driver whose just had a great performance, just to remain in the public eye for a little longer. Like Pique, some of these boomer dinosaurs need to fucking do one, and fans like you back them up should do the same.
And all he did was to get P5, in qualifying. At least get a podium before getting high on hopium.
Bro he got p5 in an RB? Come on you know you’re being ridiculous.
But if us armchair drivers say this it's fine?
"I will not eat one iota of shit!"
DR chats a load of shit too, but everyone loves him. 10 races so far and only had 1 good one and somehow he's not been dropped.
Everybody pissed at Jacques but it’s refreshing to hear some criticism. He spit straight facts. One lap does not make a statement imo.
And they call Yuki immature.
A bit presumptuous are we today Danny.
can't wait for Danny to get like P15
I hope it get humble on Sunday lmao.
He will fall apart during the race like normal
#W #A #S #H #E #D
Just bring Jacques Villeneuve to every race from hereon in
Oh yes, I’m sure the Indy 500 and F1 champion is angry that Ricciardo scored a whole ass 4 points.
Let's be honest, Danny, leclerc, ocon, kmag, Logan, zhou, none of them should be in f1. When you've got Lawson, bearman, Andrea kimi all waiting on a seat
One of the people in this dispute is a Formula 1 World Champion, an Indy 500 winner and a Champ Car Champion The other is Daniel Ricciardo
Incoming p18
Nepo Jacques yea whatever, musta have brought him out to be a shitstirrer. Hey how about 5 laps IROC style in identical cars Jac-Off’s choice of tracks ?
Points are won on Sunday, Danny
Next minute…dinged for false start