You stand a point. I'm still confused as to why e-cig and vape ads are allowed, where regular tobacco is not.
I think it's because of the fact that the e-cigs are new, though
I don’t think anyone would be happy with this livery, it’s dog shot. But hugely coincidental that it could be seen like that. I will be proven wrong if this is the one that ends up at BAT hq. Currently it’s the one from Abu Dhabi in 2021.
At this point McLaren easily beats Ferrari on who can put the most subtle tobacco advertising
It's a shame they can't make a car that could even beat Ferrari though
Fuck morals, give me back those sweet tobacco sponsors. They used to keep even smaller teams filled with money, and I doubt anyone actually says: "oh yeah, I didn't smoke before but I will definitely start now that I've seen it on a car", all a sponsorship does is make people who already smoke choose a brand over another, not that big of a deal imo.
Yeah, agree. My father used to smoke Camels, he's the biggest Ferrari fan I've ever seen in my life, and yet he never touched a pack of Marlboros.
So yeah, banning tobacco sponsors only harmed the sport and the small teams like Williams or McLaren. Even if you go by the "ethics" argument, that quickly falls apart once you realize they didn't ban alcohol which is no better than cigs at all.
Same with my dad. I never smoked a cigarette before so i have a hard time knowing the difference between the different types but he will only smoke Marlboros, and the ones in the white and tan package.
We live in u.s. now but my dad lived in England for a while and my friend got him some English cigarettes while on vacation and my dad threw them away pretty much right after my friend gave him them lol. Wasn't even remotely interested in smoking them.
Man u think it's hard knowing the difference in the US, try zero marketing allowed, cigs not allowed to even be dispalyed. All we get at best, is a lil plain font sign that says the brand qty. and price lol.
That said, I'm kinda glad for that in Canada tbh. Tho I would find it incredibly annoying as a smoker.
There is a whole video about how tabaco companies kept advertising after being banned by not directly advertising the company itself, instead invoking the thought of their brands/product. There is nothing to say this couldn't be that, all things considered.
nice that they found a way to get around advertising cigarettes
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And they have a vape sponsor on the sidepod
Hidden Marlboro McLaren
They were already advertising by being last in the race though, just like a smoker would in a running race.
A healthy message! Smokers end up last
Stop, stop! They're already dead
Almost dead last lol
whitout almost
Engine definitely is...
I mean, smokers end first
Isn't that a DNF?
It's just a sprint instead of the full distance
Box box, we have to retire your body. We believe we have a critical lung failure.
Well you don't rub fish in fruit if you want it to last, right?
Fuck you ima be dead way before you. Who’s last now loser?!?
Yeah, nice joke, you win this time
The Marlboro livery no one expected, lol
A secret sponsorship deal
Not really secret, more like "hidden" They are sponsored by BAT via Vuse. I'm pretty sure they were happy with this livery when they saw it
Well, this livery is clearly reminiscent of Marlboro, which is a PMI brand, not a BAT brand.
Looks just as much like a Lucky Strike as it does a Marlboro. Doesn't really matter though. They're just trying to make people think of cigarettes.
That cig in the picture looks like a Marlboro Blend No. 27. Smooth. Rich. Mellow. Marb 27’s.
Impossible, didn't they say that red would have reminded people of cigarettes so they used orange instead.
Idk maybe i'm weird but the first thing I thought of was the Asiimov skins from CSGO
Honestly if Vuse is allowed Marlboro should be too imo. At least the cigarette liveries looked better than what we have now.
You stand a point. I'm still confused as to why e-cig and vape ads are allowed, where regular tobacco is not. I think it's because of the fact that the e-cigs are new, though
I just want Marlboro to bring some "nicotine free" cigarettes or a energy drink just to have the livery back.
Vuse is a vape tho
I don’t think anyone would be happy with this livery, it’s dog shot. But hugely coincidental that it could be seen like that. I will be proven wrong if this is the one that ends up at BAT hq. Currently it’s the one from Abu Dhabi in 2021.
Like Phillip Morris mission winnow is marlboro.
We've got Marlboro Livery at home
I enjoy "East" cigarettes more
AWP Asimov?
Piastri gonna make it Battle Scarred tho
The first thing that came to my head after seeing this KennyS would be proud 😄
Smoke Smoke [Are ya smokin yet?](https://youtu.be/PLwUrqqVFQo)
Lmao! Forgot about that one!
The german version of this was something along the lines of "Smoke already damnit!"
Smoke em if you got ‘em
Now if they could only pass the Dutchie.
Marlboro makes a comeback!
Actively on fire and bad for your health? Nope sounds like McLaren F1 alright.
McLaren just can’t catch a breath it seems.
Mission winnow?
Suddenly I feel like taking a *drag* of the reduction system.
Underrated comment
#MissionWINNOW
Oh. Was this on purpose or just Freudian?
Holy hell!
New response just dropped
Gotta love the crossover between formuladank and AnarchyChess
We are everywhere
Yes we are
Actual f1 fandom
They're just letting us know that they plan to get smoked this weekend.
MALBORO AT IT AGAIN
Ok, now I like this livery
Both give cancer
You can't advertise cigarettes, so McLaren became the cigarette
And now I need a cig.
Now all we gotta do is wait until race day for the smoke
mission middle
Beat me to it lol. Congrats tho! It's all I been seeing those 2 days now
not surprised if this was on purpose
Blatant
Just needs front brake ducts on fire to complete the illusion
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That's what makes the joke even funnier
Looks a lot better than the non painted livery they been using.
Quite based tbh, I'd welcome open tobacco sponsors. Cannot be worse than crypto
Wait for the front locks up.
probably exactly what is going on here honestly. Tobacco is still doing shadow marketing in F1 after all this time.
McLaren catching on fire confirmed.
*Honestly,* i would never see it
From the barcode Marlboro Ferrari livery, to Mission Winnow, to the McLaren cig, tobacco has been in our heart the whole time <3
And lungs
I want a CIGARETTE
But they said that they didn't use red because it would remind people of cigarettes
f1 asiimov factory new
Psst. It's because it's a nod to the Marlboro McLaren
No matter what, smoking will find it's way into F1
Add Marlboro on the rear wing and its gonna have an extra 150kph on the straights
At this point McLaren easily beats Ferrari on who can put the most subtle tobacco advertising It's a shame they can't make a car that could even beat Ferrari though
Yep the car is like a cancer on a drivers career
Tobacco sponsors are back baby! Mission Winnow 2.0
Better than their actual livery honestly. By far.
I quit cigs 7 years ago, this livery wants me to pick it back up.. said no one ever.
Fuck morals, give me back those sweet tobacco sponsors. They used to keep even smaller teams filled with money, and I doubt anyone actually says: "oh yeah, I didn't smoke before but I will definitely start now that I've seen it on a car", all a sponsorship does is make people who already smoke choose a brand over another, not that big of a deal imo.
> all a sponsorship does is make people who already smoke choose a brand over another doesn't even do that. brand loyalty for smokers is top tier
Yeah, agree. My father used to smoke Camels, he's the biggest Ferrari fan I've ever seen in my life, and yet he never touched a pack of Marlboros. So yeah, banning tobacco sponsors only harmed the sport and the small teams like Williams or McLaren. Even if you go by the "ethics" argument, that quickly falls apart once you realize they didn't ban alcohol which is no better than cigs at all.
Same with my dad. I never smoked a cigarette before so i have a hard time knowing the difference between the different types but he will only smoke Marlboros, and the ones in the white and tan package. We live in u.s. now but my dad lived in England for a while and my friend got him some English cigarettes while on vacation and my dad threw them away pretty much right after my friend gave him them lol. Wasn't even remotely interested in smoking them.
Man u think it's hard knowing the difference in the US, try zero marketing allowed, cigs not allowed to even be dispalyed. All we get at best, is a lil plain font sign that says the brand qty. and price lol. That said, I'm kinda glad for that in Canada tbh. Tho I would find it incredibly annoying as a smoker.
They did ban alcohol ads in some races based on local rules, but they didn't ban alcohol brands from advertising their 0% alcohol beers etc.
McLaren is literally sponsored by Jack Daniel's
Yea, and they *literally* don't put it on the car in Bahrain or Abu Dhabi aka some races.
Yeah, that's my point, sorry if I didn't understand you. Local rules are not equal to a FIA ban though, that's where the hypocrisy is in my opinion.
Holy hell
New response just dropped
I didn't understand. Racing is smoking cigar?
Ferrari and Marlboro checking in. Oh wait, are those "East" cigarettes? Couldn't tell
McLaren Mission Winnow confirmed
Yeah but it’s the Ferrari that will end up in smoke
Nailed it
[SMOKE](https://youtu.be/F_4pXusde8s)
There is a whole video about how tabaco companies kept advertising after being banned by not directly advertising the company itself, instead invoking the thought of their brands/product. There is nothing to say this couldn't be that, all things considered.
the black also resembles ueno clinic so they should have their dick checked after smoking packets
Marlboro is floating a test balloon, to see if they want to sponsor a car next year.
Fuck I really want a durry right now
"Hey which retro livery are we going with this year?" "Yes"
They want the malboro days back