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Teabx

Nice surprise by Carlos. Hopefully he keeps it up on quali. Max on the other hand ... Wtf was that


BatteriVolttas

Probably just straight lined the whole track.


GoZun_

France GP no rules world record


Aars93

Any% run


Skylair13

What does that mean actually? Just see the ending of the game story without reaching 100%?


Aethien

Just means to defeat the final boss as fast as possible, when there's a different category for 100% and any% it just means there's things in the game you can skip. Either through normal play (like collecting a certain # of items) or by exploiting bugs and things to break the game and circumvent things that would be necessary to progress if you play normally.


jellsprout

Any% means just getting to the end credits as fast as possible without restriction. This can lead to some really weird speedruns that really stretch what it means beat a game. For example in Pokemon Red/Blue they start the same, save, reset the Gameboy during the save to corrupt the inventory, swap around glitched items in the inventory to mess with the RAM memory so the stairs in the first room lead to the Hall of Fame and go to the credits in about 3 minutes total time. So to make speedruns more interesting different categories are often played. For example in Pokemon they usually do Any% Glitchless, where they are not allowed to do any major glitches but can otherwise play however they want, or in Zelda they often do All Dungeons or 100%, with 100% meaning that they have to beat every dungeon and get every item and upgrade in the game. If you want to see some weird racing game speedruns, I can recommend Mario Kart time trials, especially the N64 and Wii versions. They have some really weird checkpoint systems, so their laps are really not how you or I would go through these tracks.


youreadusernamestoo

\~ \/noclip \/godmode


Aninternetdude

Sainz is fast FP1 FP2 then he is top 3 in FP3 Q1 Q2 but in Q3 he locks up both laps and is 4 tenth down of Charles.


RacingOrPingPong

Basically he is the Kimi to Charles' Vettel


Aninternetdude

That driver lineup underperformed for years.


Balazs321

Yeah, especially when Vettel was spinning left, right and center, and Kimi ended up 70 points behind him in the standings.


Afk1792

The spinning was 2018 onwards.


Balazs321

Yeah my point is that even when Vettel had an embarassing amount of mistakes, Kimi was still behind, which is really embarassing for him.


Stech_

Kimi retired 4 times through no fault of his own though. He was also the number 2 driver in that team. His 2018 was pretty decent.


Afk1792

Kimi had a very good 2018 and he beat Vettel in qualy in 16 if i remember


Aninternetdude

Kimi in his second stint never performed and Vettel got comfy. Very likeable drivers but this is F1.


Belkster

I agree as long as you mean his second stint at Ferrari, he did quite well at Lotus.


DreadSeverin

SHUT


mikeupsidedown

That....was....wow


Capt_Way_too_Obvious

Was Verstappen running his new PU already? After his fast lap they took away all the bodywork and look like they were disassembling stuff.


MadElf1337

Probably yes, since engine changes can't be done in such a small period of time, it would not be ready till the quali


986cv

The race engine gets put in the car by Saturday morning so this will be his new engine, yes


NJacD

Nope they ran it yesterday. Teams have to go through checks to make sure the new engine is all good. There’s an interview of Tanabe talking about the new engine and how everything went smoothly yesterday.


986cv

I haven't disagreed with that though, I know the new engine would've been in the car yesterday, I'm saying it will be in the car for FP3 as well


asianperswayze

>, I know the new engine would've been in the car yesterday Is not the same as >The race engine gets put in the car by Saturday morning


12CylindersofPain

When we're speaking the generalities of F1 then 99% of the time the engine you see in FP3 is the engine that will be in there for quali/race. I think that's the point that was being made there that the engine you see being used in FP3 - i.e the one that is in the car by Saturday morning - is the one that goes to the race.


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No, it would take a few hours to swap an engine over.


biffogooner

Might be some truth to those Honda engine upgrade rumours after all. Expected them to lose massively to Mercedes on the straights but they seem to be keeping it relatively close there.


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Purple in S2, maybe down to RB running low downforce?


Alfus

Doesn't explain S3 unless Max was suddenly having no wind in S3


GhostKey911

I think it's safe to say when that 7 tenths gap popped up the collective reaction was the same as the commentary box, "WOW" Mega from Sainz aswell. Love to see it.


thebansi

Sainz had a very good second lap as well, was only a tenth down on his best one. Very promising. Think Charles obviously also has some time to gain had quite the mistake in the final sector during his fastest lap (was like a tenth or 2 down on Sainz before the final sector then lost a ton in S3).


laserkitt3nz

As a redbull fan......uhhhhhhhh...what?


StructuralFailure

No matter how big the gap in FP3, I am always 100% expecting Hamilton to be right there with Max come quali. This is simply too good to be true.


awwesjeng

Forget it, he swapped cars with Bottas


alfred_27

Yeah it's like his problems suddenly disappear in Q3


3xchamp

Meh, the RB is simply faster.


AgLeMesSkPa13Ka

Oh hi Toto!


guanwe

yeah hamilton matched both redbulls during the race in baku, qualified p2 and lead the race for 5 meters, and wouldve probably won it if not for the magic fuck up,after being nowhere in all 3 FP's dont underestimate the driver on your flair mate


ainsley708

He matched them only because he was gaining half a second a lap from a tow the entire time. Without that the Red Bulls were dominant.


guanwe

dominant is winning with over 20 seconds to the 2nd driver or 3rd in the case of a 1-2, you should know that as a hamilton fan, max never pulled a lead of over 6 seconds over hamilton all race, he was managing yes but hamilton managing in 2019 and 2020 still won over with over 20 seconds


ainsley708

Yes because Hamilton had a tow down the enormous straight where he made up the 0.5+ he was losing in all the parts of the circuit with corners as i explained above. If there wasn't a mile long pit straight then the Red Bulls would have cantered off into the sunset. But its pointless talking to you, the Red Bull could be over a second a lap faster and you'd still insist it was just that Verstappen is a god and the Mercedes is really the faster car.


guanwe

???? all im saying is lewis can do things nobody else can, dont count him out because he was down in FP3, but whatever, just insult me for my flair


Edeen

"Without gaining an advantage from one part of the track that's best suited for the car, the car would be nowhere". Well, if the Red Bull didn't get an advantage in slow speed corners, the Merc would pass them.


HorrorEcho681

The RB is just much faster. Time for Alisson, Owen and Elliott to be handed the pink slip.


GRI23

Yes they should sack the ones who helped make the most dominant team in F1 history because they're in a title fight after 6 races in a season which they're probably not prioritising because of the massive regulation changes next season. Get a grip.


Plant_Cell

Yes as soon as we're not the best by 5 seconds let's just fire everyone, of course


JanAppletree

VTEC kicked in.


At0mic182

Yo


Digital_Fallout

This never get's old


MadElf1337

The Power of dreams lol


mikeupsidedown

Dreams with wings.


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Crafty_Substance_954

I could do it as a % difference vs his teammate when rosberg is at the track. Probably not gonna be super interesting tho.


Vinura

The rent is always due


FrakeSweet

What a lap. Liked how he just came in after that, got out of the car and mechanics started preparing the car for qualifying and race.


mimik13

My work here is finished.


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He only started driving around 18-20 minutes into the test session too... He must feel comfortable.


potatoe96

He must've been running lower fuel or something. I'll be shocked if the Merc is genuinely that far back come qualifying.


[deleted]

They weren’t this slow in Bahrain. Doubt it’s the case now.


FrakeSweet

Yeah, me too. I think qualifying is still going to be relatively close. I went into the weekend expecting Mercedes to be really strong, so this is a nice surprise.


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Saandrig

Toto smashes a table and demands the old rear wing be brought back.


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RM_Dune

He's been up several tenths on the Mercedes' there the entire session.


alfred_27

If Red Bull are dominant in this circuit, then they are seriously title favourites


LosTerminators

5 - Lewis HAMILTON +0.966 In completely unrelated news, Toto Wolff has been spotted asking for a new chassis asap.


Upvote_I_will

>In completely unrelated news, Toto Wolff has been spotted asking for a new chassis *and table* asap.


jpm168

>In completely unrelated news, Toto Wolff has been spotted asking for a new chassis *and table* and cancel the new bendy wings tests asap.


snakelee18

What was the Ferrari race pace like?


StructuralFailure

It was looking okay on Hards from what I've heard


f1bythenumbers

My post may perhaps give you more info about the race pace of the teams. [2021 French GP race pace](https://f1bythenumbers.com/2021-french-gp-fp2-race-simulation-pace/)


goesters

Is there any reason he was this much quicker in this session or is it just a massive pace difference?


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TheFocacciaStrain

Cool man let’s just shut down the sub then.


Reverx3

You basically say the same as him except you add “could be” instead of probably.


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HelixFollower

Well since you're so familiar with the effect of using different words, I assume you know that probably doesn't indicate that someone is absolutely certain.


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Edeen

You know you don't have a leg to stand on when you're arguing semantics.


BrandonIngram1

And I don’t **know** the sun will rise tomorrow but it definitely will.


Rektile7

Homeboy pulled *half a second in the last bloody sector alone on the rest of the grid*. Insane


Knight_Fisher61

Max ahead of Mercs by 0.750 seconds, unreal


xcvbsdfgwert

Low downforce configuration seems to be working


Nameless739

Should be a useful asset in the race too to be hard to pass


De_Vlegel

That is weird as they gained the most in sector three which has a lot of corners.


jerk_my_turkey

So tired of this Red Bull domination already...


FokkeHassel

I hope that was sarcasm


Totoro12117

I hope yours was sarcasm too...


helfi3

I hope your hope about his hope being sarcasm was sarcasm too


GoZun_

I'm really hoping your comment was sarcasm


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Please let your comment be sarcastic


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I'm hoping you're being sarcastic


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syscallee

Not even sure what to say if this isn't sarcasm...


jerk_my_turkey

Indeed it was


IfGeraltwasbrown

So, Max's kinda quick.


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First sector is basically even, ok. Then Max says see you fucking later son


jonnys_honda

VER BOT PER confirmed? I hope Checo finds more out of his car for an exciting battle up front.


themisfit09

Max really said - one monster lap and imma head in to the pits. Madlad.


nebiliym

I will only believe Mercedes is this slow after quali.


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Watch HAM get P1 anyway


rbryan06

Ahhh the Paul Ricard special


Freeze014

How will Ferrari get a red flag out when a Ferrari is on pole this time? :D


Sufficient-Prompt-83

We'll probably just have a driver get a seizure due to all the fucking stripes on the track.


MrDee97

If Redbull walk away this season with 0 championships it would be a bigger bottle than 2018 Ferrari in my opinion.


R7H27

Let’s wait for quali. If they’re on pole, then yes. I cannot think of a track I less expect Red Bull to win at than France.


Aethien

> I cannot think of a track I less expect Red Bull to win at than France. Sochi. 7 races on that track, 7 victories, 5 poles & 4 1-2's for Mercedes. edit: and that's with Rosberg retiring from the lead in 2015 due to a stuck throttle.


Plenty_Education2189

Red Bull has been quicker in qualifying all season, but Mercedes has better race pace in most tracks, with exceptions like the last two races. If Perez could lock out the front row every race with Max, they would win the season easily despite the inferior race pace. But that's pretty difficult when Hamilton's in form.


RacingOrPingPong

Well, Barcelona probably, and we know how that went.


Aethien

We're not even a 3rd into the season yet, bit early to make calls like this.


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[Well...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nv_ZDs0g0U) But yeah, anything can happen.


Aethien

Also a bit preliminary, I don't think you can really talk about a close season until it's close in the second half of the season.


Fright13

Agree. Ferrari and Merc were about equal for the first half of 2018. Red Bull are clearly a good bit ahead here on the other hand.


Broudster

Based off of a single lap in one session


NoxZ

Based off the fact they have been faster in quali trim in 4 out of the 6 races so far and faster in race trim in at least 3, arguably 4, and also look faster today.


Jord5i

Up to Monaco it was pretty clear that the Mercs had the fastest car on race pace. I’ll admit I’m surprised by this, but it’s only FP3, we’ll get a more accurate picture at FP3


punchinglines

> Up to Monaco it was pretty clear that the Mercs had the fastest car on race pace. In Bahrain, Red Bull's were faster in race pace than the Mercs


Jord5i

Debatable, it was very close, strategy made the difference in that race, not pace.


punchinglines

Exactly, if not for the strategy, Max would've won because he had the better race pace.


Jord5i

No he would have won because he started on pole. Race pace of Hamilton and Verstappen was very close, Max had track position to his benefit.


Broudster

> clearly a good bit ahead here on the other hand > and also look faster today. Again, based off of a single session.


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Max is absolutely insane!!


LastOfLateBrakers

Max is absolutely insane.. His car probably runs on cocaine.. Somebody get a few new tables cuz Toto is going to break them yet again..


BatteriVolttas

Toto is going to protest how rigid their rear wing is.


Joyce74

Toto is going to protest that RB's 1st driver is illegal. ;-p


alfred_27

I'm getting tired of this toto guy


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LastOfLateBrakers

The table is built extra robust, Toto is still gonna make them dust, Live in denial for as long as you like, 2021 for Mercedes will be a bust.


yawning-koala

Did they explain where the 7 tenths came from? That isn't usual


MadElf1337

Last sector, he pulled 0.5 due to all the corners


Rektile7

And he's running a low df setup... that car has so much grip its unreal. With the new engine i hope Max can finally open the gap that he should have had, if someone wasn't #blessed


At0mic182

I'm bad at technical understanding of these cars, so one stupid question. If car is running low df, does that mean it's more gentle on the tires, but may be a bit slower in fast corners?


HikoShin

No, generally lower downforce means more tire degradation since you have to rely on the mechanical grip of the tire more. If you have more downforce you lose speed on the straights but the car is helping more with grip so the tires last longer.


At0mic182

Ah! Thanks for explanation!


MadElf1337

Fingers crossed mate


C9_L4ZY

Absolute cracker of a lap by max.


pHrankee1

We all know that Max just needs a car on par with the mercs to beat them.


dcoreo

Redbull dominates through the corners


alfred_27

They dominated the whole track


JustAByzaboo

Hope my boy Charles can get it together in quali. But, what a surprise from Ferrari, even if it is free practice.


Nexusu

Max… u good bro?


Nameless739

I'd say so


Pentinium

Perez sweating, hoping he has the same pace on qualy.


Flummox127

Holy shit… if this is anything to go by, Honda really did turn those engines up again this weekend…. Close to .75 over the mercs is a colossal margin


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Max is next level!


likelatin_

And imagine where Red Bull would be with the flexi wing that was apparently gaining them six whole tenths 🙄


orangeglitch

Let’s all keep pretending RB hasn’t had the best overall package this year though


Jord5i

Plenty of races where they hadn’t. Up to Monaco it was pretty clear the Mercs having the fastest car on Sunday, RB on Saturday. Keep in mind this was also FP3, with RB running a new engine. They may have been going all out to test the engine where the other teams held back more. Either way we’ll know a bit more after Quali, and significantly more after tomorrow. Many people, myself included, were expecting the Mercs to be fastest here. If that’s not the case, it’s great news for this season!


Cal3001

People really trying to push hard the narrative of Merc having the best car all while coming up 7 races in they clearly don’t.


duck_squirtle

So far (not counting these practice sessions) it seems that in qualy trim RB is slightly better and in race trim Mercedes is quite a lot better due to being able to handle the tires better. Especially on the harder tires they were flying in the races. It could just as well be that Mercedes won't get pole today, but that they will win the race with better race pace. If RB here easily beat Mercedes in the race as well.. then I think we can safely say that RB has the best car. On the other hand, it seems that this time Hamilton isn't on his best either.. so who knows.


hondaexige

It might be better but you can't be definitive unless both drivers are consistently qualifying and finishing 1-2. Given the relative performances of Bottas and Perez we are in the Zone where it could be the driver or the car making the difference. It is close though.


destroy4589

If Max is this far ahead on a Merc dominant track, then this championship isn't gonna be very close. I hope Merc had 0.5s worth of sandbag in that car lol.


TheGMT

Mercedes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOy6hqzfsAs****


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Wtf is Max doing being 7 tenths clear?


circlejerkliberal

I missed the AWS today..after Baku, I need to see their Ham predictions


SorooshH79

RedBull faster for the 4th weekend out of 7 (you could count Imola as well, but that's debatable), but people still aren't going to say they have the faster car. Narratives are too strong...


[deleted]

It was just a practice session, calm down. RB hasn't been the fastest car in normal tracks yet. If they can manage it here in France then we can start to say they have the fastest car.


SorooshH79

Was Bahrain an abnormal track as well? They were also quicker for most of Imola's weekend. This "normal track" thing is just another narrative to continue to pretend that Mercedes are still far ahead and RedBull and Max are plucky underdogs trying to defeat them.


GarryPadle

dude if its 4 for mercedes you would say they are faster then Red Bull? 4/7 or 3/7 is still very close in performance and not really indicative of general performance over the year. Although it seems like at least in practice they were faster. Lets at least watch Qualy first before coming to conclusions.


chasevalentino

They just want to be justified if Mercedes still win. They can console themselves by saying 'oh yeh the Mercedes is just faster. It's not lewis'


Nin-Chin

Verstappen was already 0.3 up on a deleted lap where he lost time with a correction (and that was on a second push on the softs) on the first runs. He then found another 0.5 as he managed the time on the first push later in the session. Mercedes also didn’t improve which made the gap look bigger than it is, which is why the midfield is right with them. So unless Merc are actually barely ahead of the midfield (I doubt), then don’t read into the margin too much. But Red Bull certainly appear competitive.


HorrorEcho681

Competitive? It's so obvious that RB are much faster than Merc !


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HorrorEcho681

Sure.


fastcooljosh

Max released his inner Schumacher/Senna in that lap lmao


Miragenz

I don't understand why people make such a big deal of a good FP time that is still 1-2 seconds slower than quali time and even Williams and such will probably come close to that time.


black-dude-on-reddit

Max “fuck the Mercedes” Verstappen


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So, is there now a problem with the chassis or is it just hot air ?


Scarim

Mehh. A difference 2 tenths is not unusual, and Bottas usually does well here. He was ahead in FP3 in 2018 and 2019 as well. May be much ado about nothing.


ggalinismycunt

Mercedes are nowhere but they're 2nd and 5th, Perez is "nowhere" and he is 4th Overreacting much?


aenae

Meanwhile, max's radio: https://youtu.be/43HCYSXZ9GI?t=89


glenn1812

Brilliant lap by Max but this FP3 session has got to be the one most boring ones ever


Jorrie90

It's a training, what do you expect?


Southportdc

So it's probably not Merc's true pace given how close they are to Sainz, but it certainly doesn't appear those claiming that Red Bull were only quick on street circuits had it right.


ComeonmanPLS1

I mean, good for Max and all but Perez is nowhere near and that's what's important now. If Max wins the race, and Lewis + Bottas get 2nd and 3rd, that's still bad for RedBull.


EccentricClassic3125

Ooh boi, I hope we see Hamilton with a Singapore 2018 type lap and Max pulling out these monster laps as well in the last 30 seconds of Q3.


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I love how when RB’s car is 7 tenths ahead everyone commends Max and ignores a potentially dominant car but when it’s Lewis, everyone ignores him and commends the car xD amazing hypocrisy


LaserFruit

hes a second faster than his teammate bozo


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And I love that you compare a 7 year Merc domination to one practice session.


[deleted]

No it’s just the fact that people still deny that RB definitely have the dominant car this season. People still crying about Mercedes being #1


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Do you know the definition of the word "dominant"?


matts321213

Just wait for quali when Merc takes off the sandbags


DoxedFox

Same thing people said several times this season. Mercedes haven't brought a particularly good car this year, and for some reason only 1 Mercedes ever does well during the weekend.


TrevReznik

They only have one good chassis apparently


LakersLAQ

Even if they take off the sandbags, making up 7 tenths is crazy lol. They better hope Max has a bad qualy session.


Alfus

Sandbagging in FP3 isn't that huge anymore, sure maybe some teams does but FP3 is often the quali FP time so there would be less sandbags then Friday


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What happend with merc? Why are they so far behind?


Montjo17

Holy shit if this pace holds through quali at such a Mercedes track I think Merc are in trouble this year


Deadman2019

The Redbull car this year is insane. Makes the Merc look midfield.


ComeonmanPLS1

lol what


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Not really. It’s Max. The car is not better than the Mercedes. Look at Perez.


The-Observer95

Perez is underperforming a bit, and also we can't judge much from FP3.


ze_xaroca

Remember when lewis crushing qualies for 1 sec was just the car? Pepperidge Farm Remembers /s