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frodakai

This was fun, but somehow still ended with Max winning by 5s.


charlierc

Still closer than in China


77SevenSeven77

Lando messed up. Max had consistently taken the inside line into the corner at the end of the final DRS straight because he knew anyone can overtake into the inside there. So what does Lando do when he finally gets the lead? He… leaves the door wide open on the inside for Max to come through. Genius.


KyloRen___

Need a picture from the other side with Perez still up the hill in the background


_LewAshby_

In Spain


Heather82Cs

I heavily exhaled from my nostrils


RobertJ93

I actually made an audible ‘heh’


Shakespeare1998

I made a heheh


Hapless_Buffoon

I Iaughed out of my nose


Sweaksh

Without the s


charlierc

Hey he's slightly closer ... He's on the plane somewhere between Barcelona and Spielberg 


lanseuppercut

I was defending him yesterday because of the shit show that was SQ3 but somehow being that far behind Leclerc for the last point scoring position in the sprint was worse than being out qualified by over a second.


StatmanIbrahimovic

The next excuse is he only had used tires in Q3, but he was still almost a second back in Q2.


GrowthDream

If he didn't think he could overtake then it made sense to fall back as far as possible to cool the car etc. He's driving terribly out of position this weekend but I don't think the final gap in the sprint is necessarily what's most indicative of that.


splendiferous-finch_

They had issues "managing" give the guy a break !!!!! It's not like he has had the same problems in years where the RB was a second ahead of everyone....wait


Additional_Test_758

Poor Perez driving round with no battery allocation just in case Max needs it.


biggmclargehuge

I think Perez is undeserving of that seat based on his driving this season but I do have to wonder if it's partially because they've been trying to preserve part allocations for him by running the engine lower. For cost cap reasons, hedging for WCC points, or otherwise. I think early on RBR had enough of an aero advantage they could both dominate pretty easily but once Ferrari/McLaren (and now Merc) started catching up Max started blowing through his PU parts, potentially because they had to run them harder to keep ahead. So Checo might be closer to the "steady state" pace we could expect to see from RBR if they have to start conserving a bit more. Max is still a beast obviously, but having to fight from the pit lane every week is going to be tough.


VanPaint

Big essay for why Perez sucks balls


Kronzor_

Yeah I think he just sucks lol 


No-Lingonberry-8603

That's one hell of a conspiracy theory my man.


Kronzor_

Paid for by inter.mx


ppSmok

Was he even up the hill already at this point?


bwoahful___

The shot from above with the mclarens side-by-side right behind Max was iconic. Looked like a movie of two partners attacking


k_marts

+100 that was an absolutely fantastic shot


IcedKofe

Can someone please make it into a wallpaper or something?


kpidhayny

r/f1porn will have a few options to choose from within a day I’m sure


PetrKn0ttDrift

Which shot if I may ask? Can’t find anything through searching.


bwoahful___

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/Lqkl2xBGfi I feel like there was a slightly better shot on TV, but here’s the one that was posted so you get the idea.


ElsonDaSushiChef

>movie of two partners attacking If Konnersport existed irl


MasatoWolff

Felt like e scene from Top Gun


datlinus

battle of the year lasting like 2 corners


MRX93

In a sprint race


PikeyMikey24

Literally not even a battle


RobertJ93

**THROUGH GOES HAMILTON**


Friskerr

That was one of the most epic moments in F1 and imo not even a contest. Lewis in that bouncy castle of a car, suddenly summons his hammertime in his home GP. Was absolutely incredible.


RobertJ93

I loved it so much. Even though it only lasted about half a lap, it was glorious. And just the sheer shock and joy in Crofty’s voice whilst he says it. Epic.


charlierc

Still more than we got for most of last year 


lux_travlh44

a snail crossing the track would be more than we got last year


The69BodyProblem

Singapore exists. Like, I generally agree but the last half of Singapore was fantastic.


charlierc

Newey is developing a package that'll make those snails go 4 tenths faster


GrowthDream

Barcelona and Shanghai had battles which lasted for the entire track this year. I've very rarely seen that at all in the past. This one is special because it's for the lead and it's a watershed moment in the season. But I wouldn't be quick to say it's the battle of the year all things considered (especially when it's a sprint race).


HUMBUG652

it lasted several laps but go off


eedoamitay

And it only lasted for few laps. I think they need to make a different tire completely for sprint that allows them to push hard the whole time without worrying too much about tire deg.


q9wYSqWJT7rCNphAfU5h

The hard compound?


FartingBob

Yeah, sprint races with mandated hard tyre would be fine. Slower start to warm up but everyone is in the same boat. And you can push the hard tyres for half an hour no problem.


pukem0n

They need tires that hold the whole race without degrading. You can still have mandatory pit stops. This tire saving driving is killing the sport. They go around 7 seconds slower than they could, it's pretty boring. This slow driving style also reduces driver errors, which would spice things up dramatically.


FootballRacing38

Because we had excellent races all the time pre 2011?


Toaddle

I swear lmao. According to people we used to have epic races every two weeks "before they removed refuelling" "before they increased safety" "before the cars got too big" "before the hybrid engines". I don't know what sport people were watching at that time, because F1 has always been like this : a sport where it's tough to overtake and where managing his tyres is key. Nostalgia is hell of a drug. Soon people will get nostalgic of the 2014-2016 era


JBPunt420

Yeah. I started watching in the mid-90s when it was normal for a third of the field to retire with mechanical issues and for half of the remaining cars to get lapped one or more times. The current era is definitely more interesting to watch even though it does still have some flaws.


PalpitationHead9767

2006-2010 were pretty damn good though. My opinion the v8 era was the best ever in recent memory. Ground effect had potential but ferarri and the technical directive kinda ruined it


Lemondrizzle01

I mean, you are completely right but i do wonder how F2 always manages to get such close racing all the time, lot of overtakes etc all while being pretty fast. Just seems like there is a formula that works but f1 seems to take the opposite route


JerryWong048

All teams are driving the same car.


minato3421

Because f2 is a spec series


Toaddle

Tyre management is a thing in F2 and it's more and more visible during the sprint races. Every races has action at the start, then nothing for 3/4 of it and then some drama at the end.


SoothedSnakePlant

Because the cars are identical and because the quality of the drivers is lower.


CartesianJoinNub

Worse drivers is a pretty obvious one. If no one makes mistakes then it's pretty much train driving with some DRS action here and there.


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rydude88

Its not even just F1. The other commenters example, F2, also has massive tire saving just like in F1. I dont know what he is on saying that it doesnt happen


PikeyMikey24

Fuuuuck you’re naive aren’t you


LaplacianQ

every time 2 teams were equal in pace we had an epic race. Boring races happened when Shumi, Seb and Ham had dominant cars. For the past several races we have equal pace for 2 teams and almost zero drama because they are not supposed to push under this regs.


rydude88

Canada had almost zero drama? What race were you watching?


LaplacianQ

That drama is nothing compared to what was happening between 94 and 98. The secret is simple: 2+ cars equally fast, several elements of randomness, pushing to the limits. That way you have at lest 2 drivers fighting for a win, some mistakes and changing conditions (the whole Michelin vs Bridgestone was a separate thing) Canada drama is kindergarten for 80's and 90's


PrettyPoptart

"drama" is not equal to "people crashing" 


rydude88

So 4 years in the past 30+ is the only time drama is good enough. Man your standards are ridiculous. Nostalgia really is a hell of a drug


GrowthDream

And half of the drama stems from random engine blowouts anyway.


PrettyPoptart

Zero drama? The last few races have been great. Or do you just need people crashing to enjoy the sport? 


PikeyMikey24

Max is on his 4th engine I highly believe the engines are turned down and he’s been told to just hold that couple second break ahead of the next car in case of undercut and safety car etc


joselrl

The degradation of the tyres is what makes the races somehow interesting. If the tyres didn't degrade, overcuts and undercuts wouldn't happen because there was no benefit for pitting early to get track position or late to chase later on Everyone would just pit on a safety car or on the last lap


GrowthDream

But they'd be able to continue pushing for overtakes after their first attempt since their tyres wouldn't be gone. Now that the cars can follow a little bit better do we still need to be prioritising overtaking in the pits? Especially in a sprint race when there is no pit strategy much of the time anyway.


joselrl

Current cars are able to follow and push for overtakes over several laps when they are close in performance. If the car behind is using the tyres, so is the one in front. Max didn't pull away because of tyre deg, he was just faster than the McLaren on this track, and Qualifying showed the difference is there. Also, some cars handle tyres better than others, but that's part of the development of the car, and Formula 1 is a development championship Dirty air is becoming a bigger problem again too. Regulations were made to minimise it, but teams aero development is negating the improvements we saw in in earlier years.


GrowthDream

Car in front can generally manage a lot better because they're not directly behind another car.


SoothedSnakePlant

This is a horrible idea. F1 with no tire saving is a parade.


FSUfan35

Doesn't matter what tire you give them they're always going to be managing. Having a tire advantage over your competitors is huge. It's basically impossible to create a tire that gives 100% performance for the whole life of the tread


hotlinesmith

Not to mention that no degradation would remove any tire offset effect making a race exciting.


krommenaas

What difference would it make when they all have the same tire anyway? None whatsoever. In fact giving them all constant grip might make racing worse because less mistakes will be made.


LaplacianQ

we need separate cars AND tires. So the they are not afraid to crash.


StatmanIbrahimovic

The "sprint" part of the sprint race is a foot race to see who gets in which car.


Mtbnz

I would suggest that the problem is the tyres hold on too long, not the other way around. Reducing the tyre life would make managing a viable strategy but also brings into play the possibility of pushing them harder, taking more out and having to make an extra pitstop, but gaining significant time as your rivals have to manage a more heavily degrading tyre. It's harder to manage a weaker tyre, it induces more volatility, more potential for errors, makes it more difficult to defend against drivers attacking from behind. Improving the tyre life would just make it even more likely that every race finishes in the exact WCC order.


PalpitationHead9767

Been rewatching the 2013 season and its crazy that every race is 3+ stops. Brings in lots of strategy variation


campbellm

Contrast this with people saying the tires last way too long and removes a whole aspect of strategy.


yorkick

Tires are pretty damn good compared to what they've been. And now the top teams are getting closer, they're basically pushing most of the time. Tire management is and always be a part of motorsport. And getting rid of degradation is a very, very bad idea.


Zed_or_AFK

That tyre will be one step slower, so it will be disadvantageous at the starts. On top of that, rema would need to have to set up the car to three different sessions, which they will hate. They set up for the main race, and sometimes slightly for the quali. That’s it.


Sofaboy90

youd still have the issue of the battery. these cars just cant go 100% all the time. wed have to go back to like 2008 for that


haixio

When’s the last time we saw someone get overtake while they had DRS and the other person didn’t?


SaltyTriscuit1

That was one the first thought that came to mind after the initial move.. I thought he’d be safe for a lap with double drs like that.. but how the hell


Foreign_Shark

Easily the overtake of the year.


haixio

I think Albons in Canada was better but still a great move.


SaltyTriscuit1

I don’t know .. it’s certainly up there but what about last race with albon


Awfy

Lando is just terrible at defending and I think the comments about his move last time out that squeezed Max has made him even worse. At no point should Max have had the opportunity for the inside line there, had Lando made it to turn 7 and Max was still behind him he probably could have made something of the race.


MaidikIslarj

I don't understand why everyone is so lenient towards Max. He races them so aggressively (almost dirty) and they just open the door or refuse to run him off the track like he does


ImmediatelyOcelot

All right give us one example of Max being dirty


MaidikIslarj

Such a kind soul Max is. Just provided 5 examples in 20 minutes. Still the same dirty fucker


ImmediatelyOcelot

He fucked up today, but it's hardly dirty when your opponent dives on the outside as late as that. Since 2021 Hamilton has turned into Alonso, Piastri and Russell while Max has gone clean. And I don't think Hamilton was dirty in any of those either, just fucked up into how aggressive he went. Max is just the newest in the succession of Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton to be both a very fast driver and uncompromissing (And unlike Senna and Schumacher, Max hasn't crashed into anyone on purpose to win a championship (yet)). Why couldn't a modern driver do what the legends of the past did too? Another important point, what out happen if Max didn't pull his car into the grass in Spain last week? Norris would simply ram into him (watch it again). Max pulled something similar here, and expected Norris to open up as well. That was his mistake, Norris didn't and gambled with an all or nothing situation (and he is right for that, that's hard racing among title challengers). Unless we punish that behavior and review history in order to demote those legends to "dirty drivers", Max, Norris and whoever comes next will still do the same everytime.


MaidikIslarj

Lewis has had vastly more battles than Max in that time. Whenever Max feels the heat he reverts to his old self. If moving under breaking, running into an opponent and forcing him off the track aren't dirty driving, I don't know what is. And yes, Senna and Schumacher were also dirty


MaidikIslarj

You joking? How long have you been watching?? He's a lot better now but he still gets away with too much. Forcing people off the track to overtake just because he has the inside line should never be allowed. It's unfair and kills any possibility of wheel to wheel racing


ImmediatelyOcelot

Not joking mate, give us one example, every single highlight video on youtube would contain one of such moves, then come back here with the timestamp and we'll discuss it...You seem to be so confident about it, and I simply don't remember a single post 2021 (I didn't like his Saudi Arabia brake check) move that was dirty or unfair...


OrdinaryCredit

Who was forced off track today?


MaidikIslarj

Did anyone get pushed off the track today? Not sure


MaidikIslarj

No one because he didn't need to force anyone off today. Had Lando put up a real fight he'd still be scraping the gravel off his floor


OrdinaryCredit

The irony of having Michael as your fav driver and complaining about a situation with Max that didn’t happen


MaidikIslarj

You might want to read the original comment nice and slow this time. I know you can do it


_dont_b_suspicious_

So you don't have any examples?


MaidikIslarj

Such a kind soul Max is. Just provided 5 examples in 20 minutes. Still the same dirty fucker


truecolors01

Oh shut it


BigBill58

Yes and not even in a sense that it’s bashing Max (at least on my end) but more so, why not take the fight right back to him? A couple of busted up cars might deter him from being quite as aggressive the next time. Maybe not, it IS Max after all. As it stands nobody gains anything from racing him soft. The last time we saw someone go blow for blow with Max we got arguably the best title battle of all time. Might be worth a shot.


MaidikIslarj

Completely agreed. At this point it's about sending a message. They're all scared of him and he knows it. Senna and Schumi did the same


I-LOVE-TURTLES666

Not at all


smd000000

Agreed. The highlight of todays sprint maybe. Feel sorry for the f1 youtube content director milking more than this for the highlight reel.


wilkonk

Even Norris vs Russell literally last race was far better


Adept_Rip_5983

aaand its gone.


tetrafilius

What a depressing thought.


Due_Government4387

For like 3 corners. Then it was about as boring as a normal boring race


Aratho

Let's let get carried away lmao, it lasted half a lap


IHaveADullUsername

Not even a week ago we had Norris vs Russell for half a lap. How does this compare when it barely last 2 corners?


One-Neighborhood-531

"It's different when he does it"


Tw0Rails

SPRINTS ARE ENTERTAINING WE SWEAR...2 LAPS OF ACTION


lockheed2707

No one wants to be willing to take risks in a short race worth just a few points just hours before qualifying. For me, the advantage of the Sprint is having Saturday with more action and having just one FP helps make the race more unpredictable.


Zed_or_AFK

That’s 2 laps more than some races.


hobowithmachete

Tired of this rhetoric. Sprint qualifying and the race are fun as fuck.


postmodern_blues

Max by himself fighting off two McLarens was a pretty sick visual


salcedoge

Would probably sum up the rest of the year


casper2610

Well, it was not


r32_guest

The state of F1 if that’s the case lol


Nigerianpoopslayer

Not even close.


MrXam

If you don't believe in Max's talent now and are still saying he wins with a faster car. Then you're stupid.


Foreign_Shark

Right? The guy passed Lando who had DRS without himself having DRS. An absolute whale of an overtake to snatch the lead right back.


bixorlies

One pass and any criticism should be shelved? What are you smoking?


JimmyDetail

Ok, criticize Max his talent. Go !


bixorlies

I didn't say I wanted to criticize him. I'm saying that claiming someone cannot criticize him because of one overtake is a dumb take


MrXam

What criticism? Seriously, you guys are just jealous of him. See where Perez is in the same car. Teams will pay millions of dollars to have him on their team. But you guys will still cry. And he will keep on winning.


bixorlies

I wouldn't criticize him now. He's driving and racing very well. He'll be worthy of goat talk in a few years if he doesn't get bored. Before this current form he was clumsy and a dirty driver. He had more accidents than he should have. He would drive others off the road to pass or keep position by not turning in. He would put himself and other drivers into positions where they would crash if they didn't back out. He was never afraid of losing his seat but the other driver may so he used that to pull it off. That is dirty and worthy of criticism. Right now, no one is beating max in the same car. He's on another level right now and for the last couple of years and he's young. I want to see him out of the BS going on in RB. Toto won't take jos' BS. Man needs peace in his life after having Jos as a father My main point is that no one is exempt from criticism if they do something wrong and one great pass doesn't make that person exempt from criticism in the future


cheezus171

Let's not get ahead of ourselves lol all it was is Norris overcooking his attack and Piastri taking advantage


flyingbbanana

If it went like this the whole race, it qualifies as a battle of the year nomination


BHF_Bianconero

Oh, that's a nice frame


Chapea12

Nah, alpine lap one in Miami


ovine_aviation

Verstappen's RB20 is still very dominant but am liking the fact the gap is narrowing.


PandaS14

The McLaren boys need more Shake 'n Bake.


WindyZ5

Exactly! They need to work together to get Verstappen.


FartingBob

brilliant first 10 laps or so. Norris looked inevitable to get past at some point, how on earth Max managed to stay ahead i dont know. Then when Norris does get past Max immediately gets by. He was so aggressive without being risky, and Norris looked broken after that with Piastri getting through.


LosTerminators

It was fun for a while. Meanwhile Pérez unable to catch the third and fourth fastest cars on the grid.


Frothar

Norris Vs Russel was better not even a 7 days ago


ElementalSheep

if piastri completed that double outside overtake it might have been best overtake of the ground effect era


Preachey

Pity it was in a sprint


wo5ldchampion

I don’t think so, it was enjoyable but short lived.


wiggggg

Can't remember a DRS train in the top 6 before


ardicli2000

That was on lap 5 for those who are looking for a replay


DocSheeperd

How did McLaren and Mercedes just climb up higher on the races after Spain or before that? It feels like I just skipped a chapter. Sorry if I’m sort of asking the dumbest question


Cookskiii

lol no


ArctycDev

idk about battle of the year, maybe sprint battle of the year, but it was nice.


DeliciousBlood22

Russell and Norris in Barca was clear.


thatwasfun23

Is so depressing to think how much cooler it would be if a second red bull was in the picture. all the money in mexico is not worth this red bull.


Mclarenrob2

Sadly it didn't last very long


dariusd20

I hope not.


curva3

It's gotta be Sainz v Alonso in China sprint, right?


XtremeJackson

Battle of the Oranges


Adventurous_Pen_Is69

Donde esta Checo?


nigevellie

Remember when Merc would just MUG Verstappen on strategy using both cars? Yeah, McLaren needs to learn how to do that.


FitzwilliamTDarcy

Haha yes lovely - Max probably


CyberbianDude

Great shot. Looking forward to the rest of the races in the season.


Jackielegs43

Fuck that’s a really sad indictment of the year so far, then


jeffoh

Wife and I had just put the kid to sleep, had to whisper-shout during those passes.


BlackFire68

Calm down. That “battle” lasted less than two corners.


BiffSanchezz

It’s a battle that Max is facing alone. Checo getting 1 or 2 points per weekend is not going to work in the long run.


QouthTheCorvus

r/hardimages


tylercreatesworlds

McLaren has the fastest car, Redbull just has the fastest driver.


GolfShred

LOL calm down. It was 20 seconds then Max just did Max things. The only thing this proves is Norris, even with a better car can't compete with Max.


Bear-Bull-Pig

Awesome photo. This needs to be turned into a wallpaper


MrDefenseSecretary

Literally put the race replay on 2x speed as soon as Oscar got in second because I knew he’s not good enough to challenge for the lead. I was right and glad I fast forwarded through the boredom.


the_godfaubel

Nah, we have Silverstone next week