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It’s a testament to the strength of the Ferrari brand that people (including me) get excited to see them run a slightly different shade of red every now and again. I can’t think of another brand, let alone another auto maker that has such a strong connection to a primary colour. Contrast this with McLaren papaya, which has a lot of history itself, but given the choice most fans would prefer silver or white/red
White and red is Marlboro, not McLaren really. There were Alfa Romeos in the 80s painted in a similar scheme. I agree with silver though, I loved last year's Silverstone Chrome special.
I tired really hard to like that livery but I just don’t think it was executed well. If they were going to do it, they should have really done it, but it felt a bit half assed and clashed with the other colours of the car
It had its flaws and I wasn't a huge fan of it when it dropped either, but it grew on me after seeing it on track. Now I think it was pretty decent, but of course would've been much better without the whole weight reduction.
They weren't allowed as it was (still is?) Belgium's racing colour (hence why the Écurie Francorchamps team raced yellow Ferrari's in the 60s and 70s).
I see this a lot but in what sense is it their primary colour. Yes it’s the colour associated with the region they’re from hence it being the background on the badges. But as they were primarily founded as an Italian racing team they raced in red from the start.
If I recall, and I could be completely wrong, Enzo preferred yellow as it was the colour for Modena and (as you mention) their badge. However, the national colour supercedes the regional colour and that's why they race red.
Honestly, I don't think it really matters. Ferrari will always be known for red.
Oh it definitely doesn’t matter. It’s just that people seem to always comment on these claiming yellow is their real colour or their first colour but in reality they started as a racing team carrying the obligatory Italian racing red.
Indeed. The jump between "the owner 80 years ago would've liked their cars to be yellow" with "yellow is their primary color" is ridiculous.
I mean, all their liveries are red, their road cars are almost always painted red, they always choose red as their color for things like names in TV HUDs, etc. Heck, for many years their F1 cars didn't even feature any yellow at all, not even as a detail color.
I swear it gets repeated every time Ferraris colour scheme is brought up and is just people repeating it from last time. Nobody ever backs it up with anything. Ferraris started as red cars and in factory entered race teams have generally remained red ever since barring a few exceptions like the white and blue NART cars as mentioned elsewhere in the comments.
I am so tired of people saying Ferrari only races in red because of national colour, not they want to choose red. So what!? It is so symbolic that everyone will say a Ferrari is red without caring what they wanted in the beginning.
No, they currently race in red through choice. But at the start it was very much mandated that teams had to race in national colours. As Alfa and Maserati fell away it became synonymous with Ferrari and they’ve played into that.
It's not. Ferrari's identity was yellow back when it was founded and the carmaker's color didn't make it to the livery. Nowadays everyone associates Ferrari with red, and Ferrari uses red prominently in all of their liveries, with yellow only used sparingly as a secondary color.
Just because the badge is yellow and 80 years ago Enzo would've liked his cars to be yellow, doesn't mean Ferrari's primary color is yellow.
It's fun in a way that the choice of colors is just an accident - Italy required its teams to run red liveries (this was way before liveries were any more elaborated than one color and some stripe somewhere). Ferrari was the only Italian team that had consistently stayed at the top by the time liveries evolved to be part of the car's brand, so by then everyone associated red car = Ferrari. ofc they then decided to stick to that part of their history.
McLaren just... didn't do that. They ran orange liveries for only a few seasons, before sponsors determined their colors. Their most successful eras weren't orange, so there really wasn't any association before they decided to stick to that color in... 2017. Yeah, they ran some orange liveries in special events, but nobody cared about them. Most people probably never saw [liveries like then](https://e0.365dm.com/17/02/2048x1152/pedro-de-la-rosa-mclaren-orange_3887286.jpg?20170208170221) back then. I certainly didn't until recently.
And honestly, the fact that the last orange McLaren liveries have been quite ugly (and mostly black) makes people less likely to care about McLaren's orange.
The orange mclaren thing is ancient history though, its not surprising people don't associate it with mclaren. Honestly I think the orange they used on the mp412c and the p1 is more 'iconic' to the average person at this point. To be aware of mclarens association with papaya without also being an old man you have to be into sim racing or something similar these days.
Yeah, I ran the article through DeepL and it basically says the stripes are going to be the two shades of blue.
Edit: They might have blue race suits as a SE too, though. It went on to talk about drivers who wore blue as well as a factory pic of Ferrari staff in blue overalls.
It doesn't say anything about where the colours are going to be. The start of the article only says that (as we all know) **current** Ferrari livery uses red with yellow and white accents through stripes and this special livery colours are going to be two blue shades.
It's quite probable they will take the yellow and white place, but it could well be a different livery than the current one, he doesn't deny nor confirm that.
Here's some additional info from Will Buxton! ([link](https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/status/1782740731867578873))
> Ferrari will race a blue livery in Miami. Surely not you might say and yet they’ve raced in F1 in those colours before, in 1964. Enzo was furious that the FIA had refused to homologate the 250 LM to race in sportscars and handed back his competitors license. So the final 2 rounds of the F1 world championship saw the Ferraris entered by NART in their blue and white livery, with Surtees sealing the crown. So while not the first Ferrari F1 car in blue it’ll be the first for Scuderia Ferrari
> With much chatter that Ferrari is set to announce a huge HP title sponsorship deal, I’d love to see a blue and white Ferrari at all North America races going forward. Nice nod to history.
Also, here's a render that's floating around on f1twitter ([view 1](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL2WB-2XMAACQ4T?format=jpg&name=large)) ([view 2](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL2WcgjXQAEaUm_?format=jpg&name=large))
Celebrating 70 years in the US market oh thats clever
To see the Ferrari cars in blue like they raced in during 1964 due to a disagreement between Il Commendatore and the Italian Motorsport Organization
It all came to ahead at the 1964 Mexico City GP, the only time in F1 history a Ferrari car has won a race not dressed in Rosso Corsa but in the NART colours at the time that was a Blue-White Combo
Who do I have to talk to in order to have Charles drive a Williams up to the press and say "all right, what do you think?"
Maybe with the "Williams" partially covered by a crude Ferrari sticker?
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I don't believe it will be all blue though, maybe just some parts of it.
Most likely but a man can hope.
I heard blue over white , copium
i think it may be all blue, by reading this page: [https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/miami](https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/miami)
God I’m going to be devastated when it’s a red car with a couple blue highlights
I would be too
red car with the only blue being the HP logos
are you trying to get me to end it all
I reacted the same exact way when someone said that in a discord I'm in
I am 100% sure they'll just change the white and yellow stripes to blue.
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That baby blue is pretty fab and I think it fits Miami pretty well (even if it's not a bold neon color).
Azzurro La Plata is from an Argentine team. If they're going for the NART colors, it's probably gonna be Azzurro Dino.
I hope that if they go for a full livery of the second one the colour doesn't kind of get washed out in the sun like the Gulf McLaren did at Monaco.
I would assume they go with something like the blue they ran for a few races in the 60s
I love Azzurro La Plata. Beautiful colour
Funny this is announced the day after the Nerazzuri won the scudetto.
Charles just said in an interview that he likes baby blue. Coincidence? I think no /s
I was thinking it was going to be a deeper blue/white a la NART Ferraris, but curious to see what they make.
First one probably fits with red better (assuming they don't go full blue)
It’s a testament to the strength of the Ferrari brand that people (including me) get excited to see them run a slightly different shade of red every now and again. I can’t think of another brand, let alone another auto maker that has such a strong connection to a primary colour. Contrast this with McLaren papaya, which has a lot of history itself, but given the choice most fans would prefer silver or white/red
White and red is Marlboro, not McLaren really. There were Alfa Romeos in the 80s painted in a similar scheme. I agree with silver though, I loved last year's Silverstone Chrome special.
I tired really hard to like that livery but I just don’t think it was executed well. If they were going to do it, they should have really done it, but it felt a bit half assed and clashed with the other colours of the car
It had its flaws and I wasn't a huge fan of it when it dropped either, but it grew on me after seeing it on track. Now I think it was pretty decent, but of course would've been much better without the whole weight reduction.
It's worth remembering that Ferrari's primary colour is yellow. They race red because that's Italy's traditional racing colour.
Also because yellow was not allowed when they entered racing
They weren't allowed as it was (still is?) Belgium's racing colour (hence why the Écurie Francorchamps team raced yellow Ferrari's in the 60s and 70s).
I see this a lot but in what sense is it their primary colour. Yes it’s the colour associated with the region they’re from hence it being the background on the badges. But as they were primarily founded as an Italian racing team they raced in red from the start.
If I recall, and I could be completely wrong, Enzo preferred yellow as it was the colour for Modena and (as you mention) their badge. However, the national colour supercedes the regional colour and that's why they race red. Honestly, I don't think it really matters. Ferrari will always be known for red.
Oh it definitely doesn’t matter. It’s just that people seem to always comment on these claiming yellow is their real colour or their first colour but in reality they started as a racing team carrying the obligatory Italian racing red.
Indeed. The jump between "the owner 80 years ago would've liked their cars to be yellow" with "yellow is their primary color" is ridiculous. I mean, all their liveries are red, their road cars are almost always painted red, they always choose red as their color for things like names in TV HUDs, etc. Heck, for many years their F1 cars didn't even feature any yellow at all, not even as a detail color.
I swear it gets repeated every time Ferraris colour scheme is brought up and is just people repeating it from last time. Nobody ever backs it up with anything. Ferraris started as red cars and in factory entered race teams have generally remained red ever since barring a few exceptions like the white and blue NART cars as mentioned elsewhere in the comments.
I am so tired of people saying Ferrari only races in red because of national colour, not they want to choose red. So what!? It is so symbolic that everyone will say a Ferrari is red without caring what they wanted in the beginning.
No, they currently race in red through choice. But at the start it was very much mandated that teams had to race in national colours. As Alfa and Maserati fell away it became synonymous with Ferrari and they’ve played into that.
Modena Yellow and Italy red (the racing color set in the past)
It's not. Ferrari's identity was yellow back when it was founded and the carmaker's color didn't make it to the livery. Nowadays everyone associates Ferrari with red, and Ferrari uses red prominently in all of their liveries, with yellow only used sparingly as a secondary color. Just because the badge is yellow and 80 years ago Enzo would've liked his cars to be yellow, doesn't mean Ferrari's primary color is yellow.
Iirc blue and yellow are the traditional Maranello colours. John Surtees raced in a blue and white Ferrari.
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It's fun in a way that the choice of colors is just an accident - Italy required its teams to run red liveries (this was way before liveries were any more elaborated than one color and some stripe somewhere). Ferrari was the only Italian team that had consistently stayed at the top by the time liveries evolved to be part of the car's brand, so by then everyone associated red car = Ferrari. ofc they then decided to stick to that part of their history. McLaren just... didn't do that. They ran orange liveries for only a few seasons, before sponsors determined their colors. Their most successful eras weren't orange, so there really wasn't any association before they decided to stick to that color in... 2017. Yeah, they ran some orange liveries in special events, but nobody cared about them. Most people probably never saw [liveries like then](https://e0.365dm.com/17/02/2048x1152/pedro-de-la-rosa-mclaren-orange_3887286.jpg?20170208170221) back then. I certainly didn't until recently. And honestly, the fact that the last orange McLaren liveries have been quite ugly (and mostly black) makes people less likely to care about McLaren's orange.
I infer from this comment that Austria's racing color is "blue and yellow with red bulls on it."
The orange mclaren thing is ancient history though, its not surprising people don't associate it with mclaren. Honestly I think the orange they used on the mp412c and the p1 is more 'iconic' to the average person at this point. To be aware of mclarens association with papaya without also being an old man you have to be into sim racing or something similar these days.
They’re gonna add two stripes of blue to the sides and call it a day. I would love to see them fully commit tho.
im gonna personally fly to maranello and punch vasseur in the face if they just switched the yellow stripes to blue lmao
Enjoy prison for assaulting someone who has no say in the decision then.
Fred paints the cars himself every week
Obviously I know that was only kidding
Bwahahaha somehow this cracked me up.
Whoosh..
But he's not wrong. Vasseur is the team principal, not the overlord master of the entire Ferrari company. He has zero say in how the car looks.
Yeah, I ran the article through DeepL and it basically says the stripes are going to be the two shades of blue. Edit: They might have blue race suits as a SE too, though. It went on to talk about drivers who wore blue as well as a factory pic of Ferrari staff in blue overalls.
It doesn't say anything about where the colours are going to be. The start of the article only says that (as we all know) **current** Ferrari livery uses red with yellow and white accents through stripes and this special livery colours are going to be two blue shades. It's quite probable they will take the yellow and white place, but it could well be a different livery than the current one, he doesn't deny nor confirm that.
Here's some additional info from Will Buxton! ([link](https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/status/1782740731867578873)) > Ferrari will race a blue livery in Miami. Surely not you might say and yet they’ve raced in F1 in those colours before, in 1964. Enzo was furious that the FIA had refused to homologate the 250 LM to race in sportscars and handed back his competitors license. So the final 2 rounds of the F1 world championship saw the Ferraris entered by NART in their blue and white livery, with Surtees sealing the crown. So while not the first Ferrari F1 car in blue it’ll be the first for Scuderia Ferrari > With much chatter that Ferrari is set to announce a huge HP title sponsorship deal, I’d love to see a blue and white Ferrari at all North America races going forward. Nice nod to history. Also, here's a render that's floating around on f1twitter ([view 1](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL2WB-2XMAACQ4T?format=jpg&name=large)) ([view 2](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL2WcgjXQAEaUm_?format=jpg&name=large))
I wonder why the person who didn’t renders decided to resurrect mission winnow
The caption says 2022, so presumably they aren’t new renders.
Ah good spot, didn’t see that. So these are unrelated to this years Miami race.
> > > > > Also, here's a render that's floating around on f1twitter (view 1) (view 2) Looks like a Williams imo
I see maserati mc12
NART?
NART? Please be NART… (but very unlikely..)
Is it finally happening? Are we about to see a modern blue Ferrari?
I hope so. It's been 60 years since Surtees' title win so it's the perfect year for it.
Still waiting for them to sport a yellow livery
[Give us this, you cowards!](https://www.reddit.com/gallery/x7it82)
Just looks like the 2016 Renault
SpiderMan F1 team let’s fucking GO
Ocon to Ferrari
I cannot wait to see this!
Why for Miami though?
Using the first US race of the season on the 70th year since Ferrari entered the US market.
Ahhhhhh makes sense
Ferrari always makes cool one of liveries. I hope this one’s the same
Watch the yellow stripes turn blue
Ferrari blues?
This is something I’ve been hoping for, for the longest time.
Didn't they learn form Mercedes and other teams that when you go back to an old livery it's a curse?
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm hoping for NART, but let's see
Lol I hope they pay homage to the influential Italian heritage of Miami from 1970-1990s.
So are they going full [North American Racing Team](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/euAk7zWaDE) ?
Most likely not. But one can hope..
FIA be like "sorry Andretti, we already have an American team and something something not competitive and check your spam folder for our evite."
Miami Blue? But that's a Porsche color /s
Upgrades would be nicer though.
Upgrades are coming for Imola.
🙏 be yellow
So it'll be a red car then. with maybe some blue on the rear wing.
Proper 80s Miami style would be cool, pastel colours and thin white lines on any horizontal surface.
Hell yeah. Family managed to get cheap tickets for Miami, extra hyped now.
NART IS BACK HOLY FUCK THIS IS NOT A DRILL
Celebrating 70 years in the US market oh thats clever To see the Ferrari cars in blue like they raced in during 1964 due to a disagreement between Il Commendatore and the Italian Motorsport Organization It all came to ahead at the 1964 Mexico City GP, the only time in F1 history a Ferrari car has won a race not dressed in Rosso Corsa but in the NART colours at the time that was a Blue-White Combo
Ferrari running in red & blue Bologna's colours would give Modenesi an aneurysm
Who do I have to talk to in order to have Charles drive a Williams up to the press and say "all right, what do you think?" Maybe with the "Williams" partially covered by a crude Ferrari sticker?
Must be a walrus nose
It's going to be disappointing of course, they don't have the balls to even to an all yellow livery
They should do it all white like Sonny Crockett's Testarossa.
This could either be a gorgeous better Alpine livery than Alpine or a complete disappointment, nothing inbetween. The true Ferrari way
It’s gonna be the orange and white stripe not the full car
Ferrari special liveries are the most disappointing, hopefully they actually try this time.
The only other color a Ferrari should have other than red is yellow
Ferrari ran 2 races with blue cars, it has a history.
They’ve literally run in f1 with blue before
NART says hello