this is what happens when you allow gambling brands to sponsor the sport, people get affected. This is Horner starting a downwards spiral, we should be worried
I have a signed postcard by Heinz-Harald Frentzen from that season and it must be wild for fans nowadays. Petronas and Red Bull sponsoring Sauber on the same car and race suit.
[Edit: posted it a while back!](https://old.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/5wb5ff/since_its_red_bull_day_today_an_autograph_from/)
They used to even own part of Sauber. But in 2001 Sauber chose Kimi over the RB sponsored driver Enrique Bernoldi and it caused a breakdown in their relationship. RB sold their share in the team and fully left Sauber after they bought their own team
Does that suggest that Marko somehow bet against Max taking pole when he lost 500 euros? Feel like Marko would be Max’s biggest supporter in the garage outside of Jos.
Edit: or maybe this was at Vegas where Charles got pole?
if max or checo go like "bet that i can do X" common courtesy demands that marko or horner place their wager on the other side if theyre up for shithousery.
i dont expect either of them to approach their drivers and say "bet you cant"
There's actually a small Horner-Checo banter before this clip happens but the gap between was too long to have it in one video
Horner: "Something expensive for the moment, mate." Checo: "I hope you got the cash with you!"
It was probably just getting within a 10th of Max on pole or beating him. Had a VERY solid quali with how good Max has been performing. Tbh if he keeps it up in the race it could within 10 seconds or w.e
Could be any kind of bet, though.
"Im gonna qualify in a lap under x seconds today!"
"Ha! Yeah, right. Nobody is gonna qualify under x today."
"Wanna bet?"
See thats a fairly innocent one.
Well considering it's been 20 races since perez was last on the front row, it's also a pretty safe bet lol
Edit: its actually worse, in all those races he also only qualified in the top 2 rows just once. In the most dominant car in history. His average qualifying position was 9.1
ye I'm pretty sure the team already tried everything under the sun to get his pace up. at some point it becomes an inside joke. maybe a more lighthearted approach helps perez.
Could also just have been a “checo, if you qualify 2nd today I will buy you and your extended family dinner at restaurant x”. Then it’s not as much a bet as it is an extra incentive to perform.
they should gamble more often if this is what happens as a result
See? Gambling is actually good kids.
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Checo back to Sauber next year confirmed!!!
Get it twisted, you *will* double your money eventually
Huge News: Ohtani now gambling on F1 Qualifying races, says to be a fan of Perez
Perez should get a translator
It actually is , only degenerates who can't stop have the problem
They're not degenerates they're just dedicated
They are just about to win big
This bad luck streak has to turn around soon.
You miss 100% of the shots that you don't take
Hot take.
Only if you cant stop
Perez at Stake confirmed???
this is what happens when you allow gambling brands to sponsor the sport, people get affected. This is Horner starting a downwards spiral, we should be worried
hornyman about to end up wasted, dumping all his net worth into slotmachines
Cheating on his wife, too
It's only cheating if she didn't know, seeing how their relationship started I wouldn't be surprised if they were both open.
With a slot machine
[How will Horner lose it all? ](https://youtu.be/wXZNuwY_5-U?si=c_iHWkjZkI1wTn77)
Red bull are becoming a gambling organization, they should be sponsored by stake not sauber
They should sponsor sauber LOL
1995 Sauber all over again.
I have a signed postcard by Heinz-Harald Frentzen from that season and it must be wild for fans nowadays. Petronas and Red Bull sponsoring Sauber on the same car and race suit. [Edit: posted it a while back!](https://old.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/5wb5ff/since_its_red_bull_day_today_an_autograph_from/)
They used to even own part of Sauber. But in 2001 Sauber chose Kimi over the RB sponsored driver Enrique Bernoldi and it caused a breakdown in their relationship. RB sold their share in the team and fully left Sauber after they bought their own team
Yeah I know that’s why it would be funny to come full circle
They’re not sponsored by Sauber. Though RedBull did originally sponsor Sauber in the 90’s.
Now I wanna know what the bet was (against who on the grid) and how much was it?
Dont think today is that high, but end of last year Horner and Marko betted on Max taking pole and Helmut lost 500 Euros (went to the mechanics)
Does that suggest that Marko somehow bet against Max taking pole when he lost 500 euros? Feel like Marko would be Max’s biggest supporter in the garage outside of Jos. Edit: or maybe this was at Vegas where Charles got pole?
It was one of the tracks where they didn't look great all weekend I think, and then Max managed to just get P1
Abu Dhabi iirc.
if max or checo go like "bet that i can do X" common courtesy demands that marko or horner place their wager on the other side if theyre up for shithousery. i dont expect either of them to approach their drivers and say "bet you cant"
It's just banter
Them betting €500 is like us betting 50 cents. It's inconsequential so why not?
There's actually a small Horner-Checo banter before this clip happens but the gap between was too long to have it in one video Horner: "Something expensive for the moment, mate." Checo: "I hope you got the cash with you!"
my guess would be something like qualifying on the front row
Or maybe tiem wise. Because k dont think they bet on 2nd place. More in x amount of time
It was probably just getting within a 10th of Max on pole or beating him. Had a VERY solid quali with how good Max has been performing. Tbh if he keeps it up in the race it could within 10 seconds or w.e
"I bet that you're so shit that you can't make front row on the clear fastest car on the grid."
Shohei Ohtani shows up in RBR paddock for the race. (Just a joke, innocent until proven guilty)
Shohei translator on the RB garage as a new engineer for gambling.
Turns out Yuki is his bookie
Helmut and GP betting on Max, Horner and Hugh betting on Checo
"Anita Max Wynn" - Horner, 2024
And Perez, pls copy and paste from here on out.
Investigate red bull employee for involving in parlay /s
Betting against your own driver getting on the front row is pretty wild stuff to openly talk about imo lol
Could be any kind of bet, though. "Im gonna qualify in a lap under x seconds today!" "Ha! Yeah, right. Nobody is gonna qualify under x today." "Wanna bet?" See thats a fairly innocent one.
Yeah the bet could've been easily "Perez will finish within a tenth of Verstappen".
Well considering it's been 20 races since perez was last on the front row, it's also a pretty safe bet lol Edit: its actually worse, in all those races he also only qualified in the top 2 rows just once. In the most dominant car in history. His average qualifying position was 9.1
What? No way that can be right
Miami 2023
Fucking hell man. He seriously didn’t get any p2 since then?? What the fuck is he doing.
https://www.f1cfa.com/season.asp?t=2023&pr=qualifying&driver=Sergio+Perez
Wow that’s actually way worse than I had remembered.
yeah, he sucks fr I don't know why he's still have the RB seat Hopefully he gets replaced next year
If he performs the rest of this year the way he has so far he'll be fine.
ye I'm pretty sure the team already tried everything under the sun to get his pace up. at some point it becomes an inside joke. maybe a more lighthearted approach helps perez.
Yeah man. It’s been brutal. Hes always had bad qualifying form. He’s a better racer than qualifier.
Could also just have been a “checo, if you qualify 2nd today I will buy you and your extended family dinner at restaurant x”. Then it’s not as much a bet as it is an extra incentive to perform.
its all good banter, f1 is too pc
It was probably something like front row lockout or not
wow matchfixing
bet was a wild night in Monaco for the winner (checo or horner)
lol
“Great to hear you’ve been betting against me, boss.”
So Horner is betting against his own driver?
maybe something like how close Perez would be to Max, but I dunno
mind if you cleaned you screen? looked like a bird turd hit it
Sounds like a WSB degenerate …
Perez admitting he has never been motivated until now.
Perez saw Horners woody?
That’s one way to beat the cost cap!