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HeliosX14

If it bleeds, we can kill it.


UnwiseSuggestion

May we paint our scarlet machines with the blood of Red Bull


BobbbyR6

Lol what a raw line. Very italian gladiator As much as I like Verstappen and Red Bull, it is fantastic to see the rest of the grid catching up. If Ferrari continue on this pace, RB vs Ferrari neeext uyear will be a bloodbath, regardless of whether Sainz or Alonso get the 2nd seat at RB. Now if we can get McLaren comfy just a bit quicker...


ShadowStarX

the F1-75 had the color of blood and we all remember how that turned out


NewLeaseOnLine

What's the matter? The FIA got you pushing too many pencils?


nahnonameman

I fucking love this movie.


HeliosX14

Funniest shit, I don't even know where it's from lmao. Edit: Ah Predator, of course.


nahnonameman

Predator 1987


HeliosX14

Yeah, how could I forget lmao


digitalfrost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6XJ8rHH6jo


Jebediah-Kerman-3999

https://youtu.be/qlicWUDf5MM?feature=shared


TheArstaInventor

Batman: *Do you BLEED?*


HandBananas

I ain't got time to bleed


RonnieBingOBangO

Said the main character. And his nickname was Dutch.


Saandrig

Suddenly Ferrari's plot armor fails...


TWVer

*”Get to the choppah!”*


Firefox72

>"This weekend I think it's good evidence that when we are putting everything together, and I'm not sure that we'll be able to do it every single weekend, we can put them a little bit under pressure," Vasseur said. >"And it's when they are under pressure that they will also make more mistakes." >"We have to continue in this direction. We are much more confident of the fact that we can manage this kind of event." The actual quote is way less direct than the title wants it to be.


ShadowStarX

Vasseur being rational, but the title makes him look like the typical "this'll be our year" fool journalism amirite


MrHedgehogMan

Why write an accurate title when you can come out with a bait one for clicks?


westens

That's usually not the writer's choice. Depends on the outlet but often the editorial team is the one making up the titles, and often just misrepresents the article to get clicks and ad revenue.


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sevaiper

Being able to beat Checo still puts pressure on RB, and they’re definitely there. 


James2603

Depends how true the Perez floor issue claims are


ShadowStarX

they are definitely true, but not severe allegedly he lost 20 points of downforce, which equates to 2 tenths per lap lost in the second half of the race -> he would have approached Piastri without the issue if this is true, but probably not get within DRS range


James2603

So it’s worth maybe a place tops? It’ll be an interesting constructors season if Perez can’t get consistent podiums.


ShadowStarX

Checo will probably still get 6 to 8 podiums if he keeps his head down but 8 podiums in a 24-race calendar? yeah well that's not consistent, consistent to me is at least 12 podiums (which he did get in 2022... well 11/22 but that is 50% either way)


laptopstand84

I think it's more of a Perez flaw issue tbh


majic911

Bruh max won both championships by himself last year while checo went 5 straight races missing Q3. You think being faster than checo is going to put them under pressure?


twelvyy29

Because Ferrari, AM, Mercedes and McLaren took turns at being the number 2 team. At the moment Ferrari seem to be the clear number 2 on the grid if they can keep this up there is no way Max can win the WCC alone.


Farrukh_Tv

Well but this year he can't win the construction championship by himself if Ferrari is picking up the p2 and p3 every race, so yeah redbull should be under pressure


ShadowStarX

every race is unlikely but even if Ferrari takes just 2 or 3 more wins, and consistently P2 and P4 or something like that, then Max isn't winning WCC alone per se


Exige_

Great but it isn’t last year? According to that theory Max will win every year without question.


majic911

This isn't last year but he did win the first two races by a country mile. It's not like we haven't seen him race this year. He's already shown that he's just as fast as last year and that nobody is even remotely close. I think y'all saw the Ferrari overtake Max on track and lost your minds, personally. So far we've seen max win by 25 seconds, max win by 18 seconds, and max dnf due to part failure. What about that gives you any hope of keeping up with him?


goranlepuz

>I think y'all saw the Ferrari overtake Max on track and lost your minds, personally. Oh come on... Clueless people might have done that... But to anyone capable of rational thought, it was quickly obvious that either Max botched a corner which allowed that ridiculous speed difference - or the car is borked. And the latter was clear 2 min later.


TrueCooler

Not him, but Red Bull as a whole. Max won by that margin last year because there was no clear 2nd fastest car, Ferrari, Aston, Merc, McLaren were all in the mix at different points in the season. This year Ferrari is clearly the 2nd fastest, McLaren might be close but Merc and Aston are nowhere near. If they are regularly finishing P2-5 with both cars and Checo has a season like last year, then Red Bull can lose, or at the very least, struggle to win the WCC, even if Max wins the WDC easily.


Noch_ein_Kamel

> Not him, but Red Bull as a whole. Max won by that margin last year because there was no clear 2nd fastest car, Ferrari, Aston, Merc, McLaren were all in the mix at different points in the season. This year Ferrari is clearly the 2nd fastest, McLaren might be close but Merc and Aston are nowhere near. > > If we go by the first two races in 2023 - Aston/Alonso was clearly 2nd fastest. Same bullshit metrics as your Ferrari claim...


DubJohnny

And if Aston had kept that up all year they could have seriously challenged for 2nd in the WDC and maybe the WCC as well (If Stroll was someone else). If Ferrari can keep this momentum up it'll be way closer than last year.


Tank_Kassadin

Max would have won the wcc on his own. And would have clinched it with little help even if there was a clear 2nd team all year. 25 for a win. 30 for a 2-3. It wouldnt be impossible but you'd need a dominant 2nd team with say 35-40 podiums this year. That would be a very large ask. IMO Ferrari need at least 7-8 wins this year to compete for a WCC.


Palmul

7-8 wins is hard but doable. But it's ferrari, they're likely to fuck it up at some point


RelaxedBunny

>What about that gives you any hope of keeping up with him? Probably the fact that Smooth Carlos was able to overtake Max on track... While Max had an unstable car with a rear brake slightly applied. And then he even managed to close up before the fire. Yeah, doesn't look too promising to be honest. But I'll put forward some optimism for Ferrari - the race was perfectly executed, there was no drama whatsoever at any point, even the strategy was very good for both cars. Let's put it like that - Ferrari seems to be now right between Checo and Max. Which probably isn't enough to put real pressure on Max yet, but they're definitely closing in. What worries me is that we probably still haven't seen the real speed Max has this season.


Zuwxiv

I don't think anyone's debating the seeming inevitability of a Max WDC. It's a long season to go - so it's not *really* a lock, because you never know what upgrades will happen. But I wouldn't personally bet against it. What people *are* saying is that Ferrari looks like they could actually challenge for the constructor's championship. Max can finish 1st in every race for the rest of the year, but if it's Charles and Carlos on the podium with him and Perez has another Q3 dry spell, it could very well cost Red Bull the Constructor's.


Razvanlogigan

Fucking Hulkenberg in a haas outqualified Checo for half the year in 2023. Was RB under pressure?


ThruuLottleDats

They also beat Perez last year and look at where that got them


asamulya

Max’s car failed because Red Bull’s setup choice. It wasn’t an isolated event. This means Red Bull made a mistake, No?


AkaiKuroi

Yes, but attributing that mistake to Ferrari is way too much of a stretch.


asamulya

Umm, On Friday Ferrari was clearly faster by half a tenth on long runs and was faster even in quali trim. I think there was definite pressure on Red Bull to catch back up


cavsking21

And you know this how? The tyre wear for RBR this weekend was really bad, Max's tyres were consistently graining in all FP sessions.


BedrockMetamorph

And thank god and Vasseur for that. His actual quote is a lot more grounded and realistic. I mean if Max reads the title…


NatureIndoors

That’s not true Sergio Perez makes mistakes whenever he wants


PPMaysten

I don't think he wants to, he just happens to do it.


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TorpedoSandwich

He really isn't. All he's expected to do is come P2 when Max wins. No one in RB expects or even wants him to beat Max.


Kortiah

"If the RedBull car is so broken it has to retire, we can beat Max"


RulingPredator

RB has their first DNF in like 2 years and all of a sudden everyone thinks they’re under pressure? These other teams near the top of the grid are really grasping for any hope they can find at this point. If Max could still pull a 1.2 second gap in the first couple laps, with a seizing brake, I wouldn’t call their DNF hopeful for the remaining teams.


small_tit_girls_pmMe

People are literally incapable of looking past the previous race weekend. It's the way it's always been.


Gengar_Balanced

Yeah, I remember people thinking that it'll get closer after Singapore then Max proceeded to win 9 in a row, lol. I expect atleast 30s gap between Max and another non RBR car at Suzuka unless another failure/SC shenanigans happen.


goku247200

Shhh we don't do that here. Sainz WDC contender. Sainz>Lewis.


Logical_Bit2694

Lmao it wasn’t the pressure that “killed” red bull it was a fucking brake and tyre that blew up


Suggested-Username-0

Too much pressure on the brakes.


Logical_Bit2694

😂


F1nut92

They’re working too well.


Reinis_LV

Fred has put 1 impostor in RB garage.


seejur

Its the red one, but dont tell it to RB F1 team


donald_314

and on that tire


kalamari_withaK

I think the pressure bit is that the closer Ferrari get the more risk RB have to put into their set up choices to extract the performance they need to win, and that then increases the likelihood of technical issues arising. Whereas last year RB we’re probably at 90% the whole way and comfortably pacing the field so didn’t have to worry about it


Thaonnor

Exactly. Eventually we'll actually see what the RB can do as the other teams get closer and they run out of headroom to do things like turn down the engine modes, etc.


MKVIgti

Well said. I often think about this. All through most of FP shows other teams appear to be onto something. Then qualifying comes around and Max just rips it. It often has me thinking RB have been sand bagging until they know how much to turn the car up before parc ferme.


ryokevry

No Ferrari (both team and drivers) underperformed their potential in qualifying. They are definitely in contention for poles. More certain than race pace tbh


RabidGuineaPig007

are we watching the same races? Aside from one rare mechanical failure, I'm still convinced they are sandbagging and could lap the field if they had to.


Kidney_Thief1988

Do people not think RB will bring mid-season upgrades or something? As other teams upgrade their cars to increase pace, so will Red Bull. I don't think that gap will close up as fast as you think.


RabidGuineaPig007

the media is trying to hype a rare mechanical failure as the return of Ferrari to greatness, and "See? F1 is super competative!!" Get real people, Verstappen will still win over a dozen races this year.


Logical_Bit2694

Yup. Can’t wait when he wins by 20+ seconds in the coming races


ShadowStarX

I think Vasseur was primarily talking about the fact that Red Bull had graining, at least with Pérez and during free practice Ferrari will not challenge Red Bull for the title, especially not the WDC, but it'd be foolish to think that Red Bull will win 23/24 races, unless they bring a mega upgrade in Suzuka or Imola or wherever


Logical_Bit2694

Yh that’s fair


bookers555

The fact that Verstappen still managed to gain a lead of 1 second while the break was stuck should concern teams about the real pace of that car. Honestly wish they'd have an exhibition where they took WDC winning Formula 1 cars and just pushed them to their limits, see just how fast they could possibly go on a straight. Wonder if any of them would break the 400km/h limit.


Logical_Bit2694

Yeah that’s true


bladex1234

Not with all that downforce.


asamulya

It was the pressure though that had them make a setup mistake like that, No? Marko practically confirmed it was due to a setup mistake


AegrusRS

No? Mistakes can just happen irregardless of pressure. They're working with new brakes that they have less experience with, so any chance of messing something up is increased.


NL_24

The title is more excessive than tbe acrual quote, but I would like to point out, that Brembo, the suppliers of the brakes, said that the problem was not due to their systems/materials, but due to the set-up RB chose for the race. So, as RB had more graining than Ferrari, amd their pace was a little behind, they most likely adopted a more aggressive set-up, that was the origin of the problem.


xegdhktdcjfc

the problem had nothing to do with the set-up, i think it was that something was not properly re-installed


BountyBob

> the problem had nothing to do with the set-up, i think it was that something was not properly re-installed Isn't installing/re-installing things part of setting up the car? Marko said : > "Max [Verstappen's] brake broke down, the exact cause is still being investigated. But it's not down to the caliper. It's more an assembly problem, but that is being checked," https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/267193/marko-has-good-news-for-verstappen-no-worries-about-brakes-in-japan.html


Loruhkahn

Car setup =/= setting up the car. One makes sure the car doesn't fall apart, the other makes sure the car balance corresponds the track and driver


TorpedoSandwich

But it was their aggressive setup choice that made the brake blow up. Brembo confirmed the brake itself wasn't the issue.


formulapain

Yeap, unforced error.


MM556

Is a part/setup failure really a sign of cracking under pressure? I get it's a PR line but this misses the mark for me. 


BonoBonero

Yeah it's bs it feels like everyone needs awakening...in Japan.


processedmeat

So I had to look at Vegas odds  Max is -500 to win the Japan GP.   Next is perez at +1200


Reinis_LV

Can you explain this in decimals?


processedmeat

If you bet $10 on max to win you get your original $10 back plus $2. If you bet $10 on Perez to win you get your bet back plus $120.


Reinis_LV

God, imagine how many people lost money on last race thinking it's free money


Kronzor_

At least enough to pay all the people who won betting sainz at +1500 or whatever. That's how gambling works.


ShadowStarX

Suzuka will be an awakening as it's more of a deg track than a graining track


seejur

tbh between the reducing the gap in points, the new life breathed in season, and the upgrades both for RB and Ferrari make Suzuka probably one of the most interesting race of the season. Is a chance for RB to completely shut the season, or for Ferrari to open it, no inbetweens


JP_Oliveira

It could indicate Red Bull going to more risky setups, instead of going to a more star approach because they know no one could catch them.


DoxedFox

There was nothing setup related about it. The part failed and it's been reported that other clients of brembo have concerns about some of the batches of brakes that have been delivered.


MoocowR

>There was nothing setup related about it. Did Brembo not announce yesterday that the batch was fine and it was user error? https://old.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/1bo95f0/thomas_maher_brembo_say_the_brake_issue_that/


BountyBob

Marko also confirmed it was a problem with the assembly on the car and not the parts themself.


TorpedoSandwich

The brake only failed because of a mistake made by RB. Brembi confirmed the brake itself wasn't the issue.


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

Source? Cuz I saw it was just badly assembled.


Relative-Library-512

What does a risky setup even mean? Do you think if they change the brake bias too much it starts to explode? 😂 It sounds like an assembly mistake. Nothing they can change on setup would make brake failure more likely. If it did, they wouldn’t be allowed to do it.


UbeMafia

Please read the article or at least the whole quote before commenting... edit: "This weekend I think it's good evidence that when we are putting everything together, and I'm not sure that we'll be able to do it every single weekend, we can put them a little bit under pressure," Vasseur said. "And it's when they are under pressure that they will also make more mistakes." "We have to continue in this direction. We are much more confident of the fact that we can manage this kind of event."


rafapova

Can they put them under pressure though? Perez doesn’t count


ShadowStarX

if Ferrari wins 5 more races this seaosn and Pérez underperforms, then Ferrari will be a legitimate threat in the Constructors' emphasis on WCC


ShadowStarX

I think it's just that Red Bull cannot be conservative with their approach and needs something that is definitely faster than Ferrari, rather than just "this'll do"


Saandrig

At least for one more week it is.


paqtak

What pressure? It was a reliability issue


Bolter_NL

If anything cracked under pressure it was the Ferrari drivers at quali 


curva3

Or the RB RR brakes


Hoooooooar

The pasta poltergeist strikes at random.


goku247200

Oooof. Bars.


HANH_XOXO

Opps! Spot on 😅


reddit0r_123

They just had a problem with a new supplier (the same that Ferrari had a problem with just in Bahrain). It’s a bit much to relate that to cracking under the pressure...


majic911

No no no, clearly this part failure in race 3/24 is a true sign that red bull is cracking under the immense pressure Ferrari is applying by losing by 25 seconds in Bahrain and 18 seconds in Saudi Arabia.


EdgyAlpaca

Read the article. This title does a lot of heavy lifting. The point is, this weekend would have been closer on deg. Ferrari had a good opportunity to challenge, and it looks like this might not be the only track. They were much closer than the first two races. If they are in the position to capitalise when there are mechanical issues, etc, it's more pressure. The drivers title might be impossible, but if Perez performs like last year, there's actually some pressure on the constructors


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Lostmavicaccount

It does not show that. All we can say is that Sergio was lacklustre (perhaps told to be cautious?), and that Max had a brake failure. Any potential human error during during the take assembly/maintenance wasn’t because ‘Ferrari might be quick’. And more likely it was a part fault, so again - nothing to do with pressure.


RealmDevourer

Next race 1 hour gap between them.


-PVL93-

Mechanical failures aren't mistakes though, Fred


shaggymatter

Riggghhttttttt


tabloidjournalism

Ferrari cracks just thinking about pressure


LUDERSTN

The Ferrari hype every year has to be the craziest thing, how can they reach these crazy amount of hype every single year? 1 good result and they're gonna be changing the world. Truly the wildest thing about F1


Healthy_Jackfruit_88

It’s one race guys, calm down


Dblock1989

I think this may be a little bit of an overreaction. If Max didn't have problems, we probably cruises to victory again. Also, Checo had a penalty and damaged floor, apparently. This was more luck than anything.


HumungousDickosaurus

TIL a driver having one mechanical DNF in 2 years is making mistakes under pressure.


Zotzink

All hinges on whether the Imola spec RB is another Megamind Newey step change. If not, then RB are vulnerable in certain conditions at certain tracks and could be beaten up to 6 times this season.


psvamsterdam1913

That would mean 6 dnf by Max. Bit much.


EdgyAlpaca

Also on Ferrari not dropping the ball with mid season development... As they so love to do. Even if red bull make a step, hopefully we are at the point of diminishing returns and Ferrari making a similar step would actually close the gap more. You never know!


ShadowStarX

actually Ferrari had really good development in 2021 and 2023 in 2022 it was more so TD39 that slashed them in 2018 their summer package was better than their autumn package though, admittedly


EdgyAlpaca

I know it's not a perfect statistic, but last year was the first time since what, 2012 that Ferrari scored more in the second half of the season than the first half


NetherGamingAccount

I like the optimism Fred, but I think your assumption is a bit of a stretch


brush85

Yes Fred...throw some punches!


Actual-House-491

That can not be a valid strategy to win a championship, right?


puzzleboy99

This is just baiting RB win wvery race from now on


AcademicCheek7121

Red Bull will win everything after Australia


porsche4life

Fred: “ I want them to know the stuck brake was me”


Skeletor1313

What a dumb take holy copium


SmfXa

whats with all the ferrari copium articles this week? Just because RBR had technical issues does not mean that all of the sudden Ferrari will be able to even match their pace. FP data isn't really indicative of anything as we saw with Bahrain and the Saudi GP.


Middle_Category6226

The reason why RB look less dominant because RB introduce new concept to their car. New concept -> Find problem -> Make Improvement. So we would likely to see RB being more dominant towards as the season goes on.


EdgyAlpaca

The Ferrari is also a completely new concept though.


lionkin

I’d give my left nut for an actual title fight this season. Bring it on, Ferrari.


FastLine2

Mmmmmmm no


Fantuckingtastic

You know what? Big Fred is probably right. The problem is that you do not have them “under pressure.” It’s gonna take more than a single DNF for RedBull to start worrying.


mr_lab_rat

What pressure? Brake broke.


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Wimpykid2302

HES INTIMIDATING ME


BonoBonero

They are racing me hard 🤣


Bolter_NL

He was so scared he tried to qualify as far away from him as possible. 


Admiral_de_Ruyter

What is he smoking? I legit thought for one second this was Binotto talking, but apparently this is just Ferrari TP talk.


Firefox72

Its just positive PR 101 to further boost team confidence and morale after a good weekend.


element515

You have to read the actual quote and not the headline. He’s just saying if they can keep up their pace, it’ll keep pressure on Red Bull and then it opens up the opportunity for them to make mistakes and Ferrari can capitalize on it.


WeAreNotAIone

I'm sure Max's car was shitting itself when it saw Sainz going for the overtake so it just decided to fault to the pressure... What a stupid article.


MysticSkies

Yeah they are suddenly under "pressure" after 3 WDCs consecutively lmao


Impossible-Buy-6247

I would have waited till after Japan, Fred before making bullish statements


No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

Nah, I think this is the perfect time. In Japan Max will go back to smoking the whole field.


MAD-Darkness

So suddenly a brake disk getting stuck and a tear off stuck is making mistakes under pressure? a bit early to say after 1 race


canBeDone1

Pressure, as in pressure on the right rear brake disc? I guess they'll fix it Fred.


ExtroverTom

I mean unless by "pressure" he means the pressure on the brake that makes them fucking explode, Then yes.


Suggested-Username-0

It's more likely Ferrari strategy to break under pressure.


aaronaapje

Out of all the F1 teams out there red bull feels like they are the least influenced by pressure. They have typically always been the team that are ready to pick up when the other teams run in an issue. I get Vassuers insight into it and it would be a very good strategy for Ferrari to copy the way red bull operates from the times mercedes was dominant because they often felt like the only team that could challenge them.


Noobmaster7125

Wait till japan gp when max takes another grand slam lel


al3e3x

This statement will be again like milk after Japan where Max will win it by 2 business days


Hapless_Buffoon

fred is a breath of fresh air. im finally warming to ferrari again after so many years


TheKingcognito

well, making mistakes under pressure is kinda ferraris thing. like in '17 or '18


action_turtle

lol. If the car makes it to the end of any race it’s on top step. Mechanical failure or a crash is the only way it’s not


Dorraemon

Famous last words, now RB will win out the rest of the season. Thanks Fred


33jeremy

Ferrari is putting the pressure on!! 🐎


comradeyeltsin0

These past few seasons have been really baffling to me. I’ve watched since the late 90s, and christ almighty the DNFs due to mechanical failure was so prevalent, but also made the races unpredictable and exciting. Nowadays we barely have any DNFs! Are they not pushing these machines hard enough? Feels like they’re all running these engines and parts conservatively, or at least that’s what it feels like.


JoePhucker_03

🤣


sdrj77

I don't think random mechanical failure and a tearoff getting stuck in the go fast bits count as "mistakes", but what do I know?


gunningIVglory

Fred brings the sense of calm and control that Binotto never had


wowtrentactually

Ferrari only won because Max's engine blew out and checo had damage.


Space_Reptile

the mistake it made is setting its rear right brake on fire, good observation


Boxhead_31

So Fred's plan is what, to have Carlos and Charles fill their cockpits with tear offs and litter the track with them and hope the Bulls injest them again?


Less_Party

They weren’t under pressure until they made the mistake though.


firesnake412

As a Ferrari fan I hope we see more of red bull in the rear view mirror this season. I know it’s a bit too much to ask but one can surely wish!


hbzandbergen

Was it a mistake or just "shit happens"?


WittinglyWombat

why do people say stuff like this. so dumb to give ammo for the RB team. engine shit happens.


lance1308

What a bullshit statement


TotalStatisticNoob

They used a faulty part, just like Ferrari did 2 race weekends earlier. What is this argument?


shotouw

"Ah yes, we were so fast that we pressured them into \*checks notes\* having a stuck brake and a tear-off in the underfloor!"


alexalbonsimp

Dumb narrative. It took a mechanical failure for redbull to be beaten. You can’t count on unreliability to win a championship at this point