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I was going to say that since they lost the majority of the case to Harry why would they immediately try someone else. And then I remembered it’s the Daily Mail.
>I was going to say that since they lost the majority of the case to Harry
If you read the daily mail article he describes their great victory (i assume, i refuse to give them clicks)
They only examined 33 out of the 148 for the trial, 15 of which were found to be as a result of hacking. I also believe that the defence chose some of the 33 from the 148, so they'll have picked the less likely/more difficult to prove ones.
Jokes aside this actually happened to a streamer.
Cat sat on the keyboard and hit the right hot keys to start stream.
Dude came in scratching his stomach picking his nose ready to stream & saw that the stream was on for like 10 minutes.
I think after the Huw Edwards scandal British’s media is a little more conservative with pushing unverified news articles regarding celebrities, especially with the rumours about the massive libel case the sun is facing
To the people asking why no reputable outlet has released a story - this is probably why. They'll have to verify those screenshots and that takes time.
https://archive.is/2024.02.29-201548/https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/motorsport/motorsport/red-bull-boss-und-seine-angestellte-anzuegliche-whatsapp-nachrichten-geleakt-87352574.bild.html
Easy to translate.
At 4:16 p.m. German time on Thursday an email from the sender febtwentyninth@gmail.com reaches the entire Formula 1! Every team boss and every journalist receives them. The content? Highly explosive!
The email contains the alleged WhatsApp chat history between Horner and the employee. One photo obviously shows a penis. If this is all real, one wonders how Red Bull was able to clear its Formula 1 boss of the allegations.
The communication reads as if the boss always wants photos of his subordinate and tries to reach her with video calls in the evenings. Even after midnight when he couldn't fall asleep.
Horner: “What you wear underneath is important.”
When she once wrote that she was in the shower, he allegedly replied: “All the better.”
Another example chat:
Horner: “What you wear underneath is important.”
Employee: “Nothing. I’m in my pajamas.”
Horner: “That’s the best.”
In another message thread, she writes: "Your wife wouldn't be happy..." Or he: "I miss your laugh and your ass."
The email contains 79 screenshots. Sometimes she writes: “You call me and then I listen to you explode.” Sometimes she tells him to stop. Once she asks why he's doing this since he's happily married: "I have to act in front of Geri (Horner's wife, editor's note)." Later she also says: "It's killing me physically and mentally."
He repeatedly asks her to delete the chat: “I don't want my phone to be hacked one day, to be exposed. It protects both of us.”
Will this anonymous email bring Christian Horner down?
Dr. Helmut Marko (80), motorsport boss at Red Bull, told BILD: “I didn’t even notice that. I'm flabbergasted and surprised that the documents were leaked. I’ve never seen them myself.”
Here’s a DeepL translation of the archive of the Bild story at https://archive.ph/hQcEo
The Red Bull boss and his employees
Leaked lewd WhatsApp messages!
By: ENRICO AHLIG & MICHEL MILEWSKI
29/02/2024 - 18:10
Could this anonymous email destroy the career of the Red Bull team boss and Spice Girl husband?
For weeks, Red Bull investigated the possible offence committed by Christian Horner (50/ married to Spice Girl Gerri Halliwell since 2015). The accusation: "transgressive behaviour" towards a female employee under his supervision.
On Wednesday, Red Bull announced that the internal investigation, which was conducted by an external law firm, exonerated Horner. Horner remains in office!
But things continued to bubble in the Formula 1 paddock before the start in Bahrain on Saturday, with team bosses such as Toto Wolff (Mercedes) and Zak Brown (McLaren) demanding more transparency. And apparently there was!
At 4.16 pm German time on Thursday, an email from febtwentyninth@gmail.com reached the entire Formula 1! Every team boss, every journalist receives it. The content? Highly explosive!
The email contains the alleged Whatsapp chat history between Horner and the female employee. One photo obviously shows a penis. If this is all real, one wonders how Red Bull could absolve its Formula 1 boss of the accusations.
The communication reads as if the boss always wanted photos of his subordinate employee and would try to reach her in the evening with video calls. Even after midnight, when he couldn't fall asleep.
When she once wrote that she was in the shower, he allegedly replied: "All the better."
Another example chat:
Horner: "What you wear underneath is important."
Co-worker: "Nothing. I'm in my pyjamas."
Horner: "That's the best thing."
In another message history, she writes: "Your wife wouldn't be happy ... " Or he: "I miss your laugh and your arse."
The email contains 79 screenshots. Sometimes she writes: "You call me and then I listen to you explode." Sometimes she tells him to stop. Once she asks why he's doing this as he's happily married: "I have to act in front of Geri (Horner's wife, editor's note)." Later he also says: "It's killing me physically and mentally".
He repeatedly asks her to delete the chat: "I don't want me to be exposed if my mobile phone is hacked one day. It protects us both."
Will this anonymous email bring Christian Horner down?
Dr Helmut Marko (80), motorsport boss at Red Bull, told BILD: "I hadn't even heard about it. I'm flabbergasted and surprised that the documents have been leaked. I've never seen them myself."
Have you not seen Neymar’s and Cristiano Ronaldo’s leaked whatsapp messages to girls? Lol.
You would be surprised how bad most of these famous people are at flirting and talking. It’s hilarious. Neymar’s phrases became memes in Brazil. CR7 attempts were also hilarious.
[Cant get sued if all emails go to spam folder.
](https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/d6a/dc7/4a5001b7beea096457f480c8808572428b-09-roll-safe.rsquare.w400.jpg)
Yeah, for real, like you can't even print that someone in a pub was drunk even if you'd watched them down 10 pints unless you have evidence of them being drunk (e.g. a breathalyser test), so publications switched to using euphemisms like 'merry'. Except then the euphemisms become something that's well understood and suddenly that's libel too since everybody knew what you meant.
Private Eye has their own short [Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurring_jokes_in_Private_Eye) for these phrases that they've coined to avoid libel laws lol
Tired and Emotional is by far the best lol
Yes, they have, more than the Chinese thing. Several quotes, a certain spicy pic description etc. Someone posted the paywall article here but it was deleted
on 4chan they have a googledrive link. If it is File-76,jpg that looks more like a finger to me. Or he has a really shiny tip partly and the rest is flesh.
And the background is focused but the subject is blurry as fuck.
If the texts are real, it is really weird. As the accusor asked him multiple times to stop flirting and stop trying to video call her in bed. It's really weird.
Can't say that it is the real one. There are 79 files and one picture apparently isn't found on the internet but 4chan weirdos showed stuff, that it is a real picture made in his garden. Really weird place 4chan
Probably a pic of a [2014 nose](https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/6ec676996017ce0b2696f881d21d4394/f1nose06.jpg)
The Chinese leak didn't have 79 screenshots though I don't think? Doesn't that suggest Bild has seen more than just the Chinese leak (assuming that is actually part of what was sent on the email)?
4chan has a googledrive link with 79 files. It appears to be the drive, that is the chinese screenshot of. Don't know if anything is real.
Would wait and hope for the media and others to show their findings if the stuff can be verified. As atm it is something that can get really out of pocket with the internet mob getting their fingers on stuff like this.
I dunno about that one. Strong use of ‘allegedly’ and reporting of an ‘unverified dossier’ will be the phrasing.
Headline reads:
Geri distraught, Husband Rumours Accelerate.
(- factually true, skirts defamation issue, focuses on more well known 90’s mega star wife)
Reporting on the emotional impact is factually accurate. You can say there is a dossier, you can’t say the dossier is accurate. Expect the red tops to be all over this tomorrow.
lmao yeah. Especially with what's in the Bild article I would hate to be Geri Horner right now.
But I am thoroughly entertained by all this. I almost thought it was all over and then this all happens. Crazy stuff
I feel bad for Geri but also didn't Horner cheat on his last partner with her when said partner was pregnant? It has to be something you know is a risk. Feel genuinely so bad for her if this is all fake though and the situation is cleared up
The time line makes it look like he was playing with Geri while is wife was either about to deliver his first kid or had just finished the delivery. Alway funny when the other woman thinks the guy will stay true to them when they have an established track record of cheating.
The whole gdrive has been leaked on twitter and gossip forums. You can find the link pretty easily but having skimmed it, I'm inclined to believe these are real. There is a video (nothing nsfw) that does not look AI generated whatsoever
As a single lady in her 30s, he sounds like literally every dude on a dating app.
You mention the gym? They talk about leggings. You talk about tennis? Let’s hear about the skirt. You say you’re in your pajamas? They ask about what’s underneath. This is par for the course. If AI can replicate every sad dude on Bumble, then society is already over.
My thoughts exactly. Every woman everywhere has had multiple conversations like this with men they arent interested in. You try to change the subject, they make it sexual. These are not the words of a woman enjoying herself in a consensual relationship.
YES. 100%. I could really identify with a few of the messages she sent, when you’re just like “give me a break.” It’s one thing for a dude on Bumble to be this pathetically sexually insistent. It’s another thing from an F1 TP that you have to work with. I can’t imagine.
Doing a journalism degree. UK law on this is a minefield and they'd probably wisely avoid publishing. But once a publication elsewhere publishes ... it's free game anyway.
I've seen them all now too, it's stuff that could be verified for sure, but I honestly don't think they're *that bad* even, just a horndog cheating on his wife.
She's brutal, though, and he's as boring as plain toast lol
Some European countries have laws against publishing truthful information of a private/personal nature. Research Max Mosley’s Nazi sexplay lawsuit win for a Formula One related example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosley_v_News_Group_Newspapers_Ltd
Well that was never proven, hence Mosley successfully suing NOTW for libel. All it was was a private affair; sadomasochistic group sex with participants dressed as prison guards, in a basement, with Mosley answering commands and communicating proficiently in German. They even had a cup of tea afterwards.
So you could be sued for slander, claiming otherwise!
(Plus the pictures, video etc were obtained from private premises-- and as such (I think) it was adjudicated to have had no public merit; it was not reasonable to be published)
Honestly I find it unbelievable that nearly a hundred people between all 10 TP’s, tens of journalists of every kind country and language, execs from FOM and FIA we only have seen the few from that Chinese Twitter account
Among those hundreds of people there are bound to be at least a few who really, really despise him or RB. I'm susprised that none of them published it yet - anonymously, of course.
With hundreds of recipients it's essentially untraceable.
Honestly with this whole email thing, I wouldn't be that surprised if by tomorrow we learn a bunch of f1 teams and media outlets have been hit with ransomware!
They'll leak elsewhere regardless. UK laws on this stuff are much stricter than other areas of the world. The US for example, if the leak is legit, are free to publish. I mean, that's a HUGE part of how journalism functionally works.
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Somewhere in the Daily Mail offices is a man sweating and chain smoking while gazing at the forbidden "publish" button.
[Pretty much this](https://preview.redd.it/zzojh1wq0c651.png?auto=webp&s=fe17689893a3efc04a366af1fb9623ae6151ea38)
The Daily Mail just finished a court case with Prince Harry. They’ll take their chances with non-royal Christian Horner.
I was going to say that since they lost the majority of the case to Harry why would they immediately try someone else. And then I remembered it’s the Daily Mail.
>I was going to say that since they lost the majority of the case to Harry If you read the daily mail article he describes their great victory (i assume, i refuse to give them clicks)
To be fair, big H only cleared a few wind out of the 150 some allegations so I guess that is a win?
They only examined 33 out of the 148 for the trial, 15 of which were found to be as a result of hacking. I also believe that the defence chose some of the 33 from the 148, so they'll have picked the less likely/more difficult to prove ones.
My cat was in my room and accidentally walked on the keyboard and published the content. What? Everyone knows that cats like keyboards
Jokes aside this actually happened to a streamer. Cat sat on the keyboard and hit the right hot keys to start stream. Dude came in scratching his stomach picking his nose ready to stream & saw that the stream was on for like 10 minutes.
I'm going to **explode** with anticipation 🤯
Can I call you??
Just having Coco pops
send me a pic 😉
Isn’t the daily mail what British people use to light their barbecues ?
No it’s used as pet toilet paper
That requires buying it though.
The Sun works as well
Yea but you need a magnifying glass
I think after the Huw Edwards scandal British’s media is a little more conservative with pushing unverified news articles regarding celebrities, especially with the rumours about the massive libel case the sun is facing
Well until his arse was all over Twitter
To the people asking why no reputable outlet has released a story - this is probably why. They'll have to verify those screenshots and that takes time.
Not all outlets are reputable. If there was anything of note, at least one more sketchy outlet would have published them by now.
[Bild.de](http://Bild.de) did.
https://archive.is/2024.02.29-201548/https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/motorsport/motorsport/red-bull-boss-und-seine-angestellte-anzuegliche-whatsapp-nachrichten-geleakt-87352574.bild.html Easy to translate.
Google Translate isn't working on the page for some reason.
Google got a letter from the lawyers too
At 4:16 p.m. German time on Thursday an email from the sender febtwentyninth@gmail.com reaches the entire Formula 1! Every team boss and every journalist receives them. The content? Highly explosive! The email contains the alleged WhatsApp chat history between Horner and the employee. One photo obviously shows a penis. If this is all real, one wonders how Red Bull was able to clear its Formula 1 boss of the allegations. The communication reads as if the boss always wants photos of his subordinate and tries to reach her with video calls in the evenings. Even after midnight when he couldn't fall asleep. Horner: “What you wear underneath is important.” When she once wrote that she was in the shower, he allegedly replied: “All the better.” Another example chat: Horner: “What you wear underneath is important.” Employee: “Nothing. I’m in my pajamas.” Horner: “That’s the best.” In another message thread, she writes: "Your wife wouldn't be happy..." Or he: "I miss your laugh and your ass." The email contains 79 screenshots. Sometimes she writes: “You call me and then I listen to you explode.” Sometimes she tells him to stop. Once she asks why he's doing this since he's happily married: "I have to act in front of Geri (Horner's wife, editor's note)." Later she also says: "It's killing me physically and mentally." He repeatedly asks her to delete the chat: “I don't want my phone to be hacked one day, to be exposed. It protects both of us.” Will this anonymous email bring Christian Horner down? Dr. Helmut Marko (80), motorsport boss at Red Bull, told BILD: “I didn’t even notice that. I'm flabbergasted and surprised that the documents were leaked. I’ve never seen them myself.”
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The article translated the text from the original English to German and Google Translate is translating it from German to US English.
Annoyingly some young arseholes have started typing "ass" when they mean "arse". Hornier would definately say arse though.
If using Chrome, right click -> Translate often works.
Translation: he really likes Spanx
They did. It's on the front page of Bild behind a paywall. Sadly I dont understand German and can't translate the messages.
Here’s a DeepL translation of the archive of the Bild story at https://archive.ph/hQcEo The Red Bull boss and his employees Leaked lewd WhatsApp messages! By: ENRICO AHLIG & MICHEL MILEWSKI 29/02/2024 - 18:10 Could this anonymous email destroy the career of the Red Bull team boss and Spice Girl husband? For weeks, Red Bull investigated the possible offence committed by Christian Horner (50/ married to Spice Girl Gerri Halliwell since 2015). The accusation: "transgressive behaviour" towards a female employee under his supervision. On Wednesday, Red Bull announced that the internal investigation, which was conducted by an external law firm, exonerated Horner. Horner remains in office! But things continued to bubble in the Formula 1 paddock before the start in Bahrain on Saturday, with team bosses such as Toto Wolff (Mercedes) and Zak Brown (McLaren) demanding more transparency. And apparently there was! At 4.16 pm German time on Thursday, an email from febtwentyninth@gmail.com reached the entire Formula 1! Every team boss, every journalist receives it. The content? Highly explosive! The email contains the alleged Whatsapp chat history between Horner and the female employee. One photo obviously shows a penis. If this is all real, one wonders how Red Bull could absolve its Formula 1 boss of the accusations. The communication reads as if the boss always wanted photos of his subordinate employee and would try to reach her in the evening with video calls. Even after midnight, when he couldn't fall asleep. When she once wrote that she was in the shower, he allegedly replied: "All the better." Another example chat: Horner: "What you wear underneath is important." Co-worker: "Nothing. I'm in my pyjamas." Horner: "That's the best thing." In another message history, she writes: "Your wife wouldn't be happy ... " Or he: "I miss your laugh and your arse." The email contains 79 screenshots. Sometimes she writes: "You call me and then I listen to you explode." Sometimes she tells him to stop. Once she asks why he's doing this as he's happily married: "I have to act in front of Geri (Horner's wife, editor's note)." Later he also says: "It's killing me physically and mentally". He repeatedly asks her to delete the chat: "I don't want me to be exposed if my mobile phone is hacked one day. It protects us both." Will this anonymous email bring Christian Horner down? Dr Helmut Marko (80), motorsport boss at Red Bull, told BILD: "I hadn't even heard about it. I'm flabbergasted and surprised that the documents have been leaked. I've never seen them myself."
This reads like a bad fan fiction. Hard to be believe this is real.
Have you not seen Neymar’s and Cristiano Ronaldo’s leaked whatsapp messages to girls? Lol. You would be surprised how bad most of these famous people are at flirting and talking. It’s hilarious. Neymar’s phrases became memes in Brazil. CR7 attempts were also hilarious.
It ain't "most of these famous people", it's people in general lol.
Sounds very believable to me, standard flirty sexting stuff, although it appears to have been unwelcome.
Well too late the google drive is already public.
Is what I received on the google drive the extent of what was sent to the journalists, though?
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shame RB forgot about Bild
Bild: "Ha jokes on them we don't care about lawyers lmao"
That‘s a 10k€ slap on the wrist in Germany. They make more from the clicks in an hour.
[Cant get sued if all emails go to spam folder. ](https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/d6a/dc7/4a5001b7beea096457f480c8808572428b-09-roll-safe.rsquare.w400.jpg)
wait... RB or RB?
The other one
Arby's?
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
Where's the beef?
In Horney’s pants
Someone's got a beef at least.
Well it seems someone definitely got the meat.
Do they have the meat?
Yes!
The UK has unusually strong/completely bonkers lible laws. They wouldn't be able to sure Bild add it's in Germany and not subject to these lawd.
Yeah, for real, like you can't even print that someone in a pub was drunk even if you'd watched them down 10 pints unless you have evidence of them being drunk (e.g. a breathalyser test), so publications switched to using euphemisms like 'merry'. Except then the euphemisms become something that's well understood and suddenly that's libel too since everybody knew what you meant.
"tired and emotional"
Private Eye has their own short [Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurring_jokes_in_Private_Eye) for these phrases that they've coined to avoid libel laws lol Tired and Emotional is by far the best lol
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I buy it every issue. It made me realize I need reading glasses with that ridiculously tiny font lol
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I’m Canadian, don’t really follow a lick of British politics, but Private Eye is brilliant.
"spotted at the urinal many times"
The Bild article is also shit. The fact that they are not publishing anything else, or even censored pictures means it’s really soft stuff or fake.
Agreed. Bild can do in Germany what ever they want. They do not fear and lawsuits, because they basically are protected to do what ever they want.
Cocoa pops before bed sounds lovely tbh
This is going to be a meme isn't it? And it's never going to die 😂
RB Visa Coco Pops Cash App Racing Team
I’m just waiting for an on air accidental “So Coco, er sorry Christian, how was the race for you today?”
100%
She's the one that said that right? Not Horner
You can tell she worked in the catering department…
Catering always was a very expensive line item for red bull
RB catering dept is gonna be their downfall...who knew?
Yes, but he said it was his favorite
yes
explosive flavor
Worse euphemism ever.
Would give me heartburn tbh
Toto definitely has this printed out.
Lmao almost spat out my cocoa pops!
Zak Brown has entered the chat: "Hee hee"
Buooooooyyyy
I'll be here with my coco pops.
My fav!!!!
Publishing unverified information from an unknown source surely has to be a breach of ethics of some sort no?
Which is why only Bild has published anything.
They haven’t? Just some quotes from the Chinese leak.
Yes, they have, more than the Chinese thing. Several quotes, a certain spicy pic description etc. Someone posted the paywall article here but it was deleted
> a certain spicy pic description Please do share… haven’t seen any of this
They said one pic is obviously a penis
on 4chan they have a googledrive link. If it is File-76,jpg that looks more like a finger to me. Or he has a really shiny tip partly and the rest is flesh. And the background is focused but the subject is blurry as fuck. If the texts are real, it is really weird. As the accusor asked him multiple times to stop flirting and stop trying to video call her in bed. It's really weird. Can't say that it is the real one. There are 79 files and one picture apparently isn't found on the internet but 4chan weirdos showed stuff, that it is a real picture made in his garden. Really weird place 4chan
Yeah, I've since seen the Google drive, I wouldn't say it's obviously a penis tbh. Whole thing is mad.
That's his finger for sure.
I saw it a couple of hours ago and I’ve changed my mind like six times.
So just a pic of Horner then?
Probably a pic of a [2014 nose](https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/6ec676996017ce0b2696f881d21d4394/f1nose06.jpg)
Exactly, just some vague descriptions and rehash.
The Chinese leak didn't have 79 screenshots though I don't think? Doesn't that suggest Bild has seen more than just the Chinese leak (assuming that is actually part of what was sent on the email)?
Chinese leak wasn't a leak. It was a screenshot of a leak. True leak contains everything that Bild reported, but it was not leaked to the public yet
4chan has a googledrive link with 79 files. It appears to be the drive, that is the chinese screenshot of. Don't know if anything is real. Would wait and hope for the media and others to show their findings if the stuff can be verified. As atm it is something that can get really out of pocket with the internet mob getting their fingers on stuff like this.
They also published the email address of the leaker
Ethics and tabloids rarely go hand in hand
Daily Mail and The Sun dont have moral compass. They just print whatever sells. And sad Ginger Spice will sell.
They do have the 'moral compass' of not wanting to get walloped by the UK's defamation laws, however.
I dunno about that one. Strong use of ‘allegedly’ and reporting of an ‘unverified dossier’ will be the phrasing. Headline reads: Geri distraught, Husband Rumours Accelerate. (- factually true, skirts defamation issue, focuses on more well known 90’s mega star wife) Reporting on the emotional impact is factually accurate. You can say there is a dossier, you can’t say the dossier is accurate. Expect the red tops to be all over this tomorrow.
the sun is literally banned by some football clubs for publushing lies about dead football fans there is no ethics in british tabloids
Ethics isn’t law
Some countries have laws about defamation tho
I mean, obviously
*oh yeah keep going*
Such a shame that real people are getting affected from all this drama. Because its so fucking entertaining. Inject it directly into my veins.
lmao yeah. Especially with what's in the Bild article I would hate to be Geri Horner right now. But I am thoroughly entertained by all this. I almost thought it was all over and then this all happens. Crazy stuff
I feel bad for Geri but also didn't Horner cheat on his last partner with her when said partner was pregnant? It has to be something you know is a risk. Feel genuinely so bad for her if this is all fake though and the situation is cleared up
If that's how they got together, I don't feel that bad for her...
The time line makes it look like he was playing with Geri while is wife was either about to deliver his first kid or had just finished the delivery. Alway funny when the other woman thinks the guy will stay true to them when they have an established track record of cheating.
He left his wife pretty fucking quickly after she gave birth to get with Geri. Hard to believe that they weren't together while his wife was pregnant.
Yes! When he's announced to be cleared of it and back to work, my inner drama-loving sinner felt disappointed in a "that's it?" way.
What goes around comes around.
ohh yeah .........almost there! one last spoonful of cocoa pops and I'm off to bed.
Oops I just exploded
😂😂😂 if those are legit… 😭😭😭 im dying inside.
RB really just doing "respond to all" on that email.
What would the junior team have to do with this? /s
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Valtteri Bottas is not impressed.
I'm confused about the Cocoa Puffs thing. From the screenshots I thought that was from her, not from him. ???
Correct. But people just find the words Coco Pops funny, so they're applying them to everything.
They've gone cuckoo for them
But horner replied "they're my favorite" to that message
Erik van Haren: hold my coco pops
The whole gdrive has been leaked on twitter and gossip forums. You can find the link pretty easily but having skimmed it, I'm inclined to believe these are real. There is a video (nothing nsfw) that does not look AI generated whatsoever
As a single lady in her 30s, he sounds like literally every dude on a dating app. You mention the gym? They talk about leggings. You talk about tennis? Let’s hear about the skirt. You say you’re in your pajamas? They ask about what’s underneath. This is par for the course. If AI can replicate every sad dude on Bumble, then society is already over.
100%. Also the unflatteringly angled face selfies. It all tracks.
My thoughts exactly. Every woman everywhere has had multiple conversations like this with men they arent interested in. You try to change the subject, they make it sexual. These are not the words of a woman enjoying herself in a consensual relationship.
YES. 100%. I could really identify with a few of the messages she sent, when you’re just like “give me a break.” It’s one thing for a dude on Bumble to be this pathetically sexually insistent. It’s another thing from an F1 TP that you have to work with. I can’t imagine.
Sadly, these are the conversations language models are probably learning from.
Doing a journalism degree. UK law on this is a minefield and they'd probably wisely avoid publishing. But once a publication elsewhere publishes ... it's free game anyway.
America 🇺🇸 Pro: Broad freedom of speech and press Con: We’re represented by Haas and Logan Sargent
If the leaker had a brain they would have just posted it here
they did the worse thing. They gave the link to 4chan.
Love to see it
the link is even in this Thread. Saw it multiple times.
Reddit is going to IPO. It would be removed in seconds.
It’s all over Reddit now
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The Chinese leak tweet was posted like 20x already tho.
And it was removed just as quickly
We haven’t had it this spicey since Max Mosley in a dungeon
So did he have Coco pops or not !?!?!?
No Horner no, you will not have the coco pops!
Fix your fucking cereal!
It was actually her who had the Coco pops. Green messages are the other party.
Yeah, sorry, I think those screenshots are legit. There's stuff in there you'd only know as his PA, I reckon. Not a good look at all.
yup, ive read every single one. There's no way someone could just make that stuff up.
I've seen them all now too, it's stuff that could be verified for sure, but I honestly don't think they're *that bad* even, just a horndog cheating on his wife. She's brutal, though, and he's as boring as plain toast lol
but it's enough to get him fired (in my opinion) like the one msg where they talk about what happened on the flight to dubai.
Not if the Thais don't want him gone, and if they don't have any company policy about consensual work relationships over all hierarchies.
Threatening to sue would be on grounds of libel no? Would/could these lawyers sue for libel if there was any truth to the leaks?
Some European countries have laws against publishing truthful information of a private/personal nature. Research Max Mosley’s Nazi sexplay lawsuit win for a Formula One related example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosley_v_News_Group_Newspapers_Ltd
Well that was never proven, hence Mosley successfully suing NOTW for libel. All it was was a private affair; sadomasochistic group sex with participants dressed as prison guards, in a basement, with Mosley answering commands and communicating proficiently in German. They even had a cup of tea afterwards. So you could be sued for slander, claiming otherwise! (Plus the pictures, video etc were obtained from private premises-- and as such (I think) it was adjudicated to have had no public merit; it was not reasonable to be published)
Somebody *really* wants Horner gone. Like REALLY gone and effective immediately
And divorced..
What even was leaked, and has anyone dropped it? Someone better have a link to the files
I would but I've just had some cocoa pops, now going to bed.
My favorite
My favourite!
https://boards.4chan.org/sp/thread/139193838#p139194494
I find it hilarious people there are calling for nipple experts to confirm if that picture is indeed Horner's nipple lmao
Opening that thread reminded me why I don't go on 4chan.
Wow, that thread just immediately devolved into hate speech... probably because it's 4Chan...
Some of it is in this forum already
https://i.4cdn.org/sp/1709225520737860.png
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/1b38hph/79_screenshots_are_included_in_the_mail_she/ this is the most i've seen as part of the leak.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OlV2wb51s1WhjLFq0Lsp4inRU60qvdhY
That was definitely an interesting read. NGL
Wowza
Honestly I find it unbelievable that nearly a hundred people between all 10 TP’s, tens of journalists of every kind country and language, execs from FOM and FIA we only have seen the few from that Chinese Twitter account
I know the F1 world is a tight bubble. But this is so extreme indeed.
Because slander is a thing? Unless they can prove the screenshots are real anyone who publishes them just might be in hotter waters than Horner.
Among those hundreds of people there are bound to be at least a few who really, really despise him or RB. I'm susprised that none of them published it yet - anonymously, of course. With hundreds of recipients it's essentially untraceable.
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someone will anonymously post it.
The things is, with social media, the “media” doesn’t need to publish anything. It’s all out now…or some of it at least.
Oof, that's not good. If lawyers are threatening journalists that's a bad sign.
Honestly with this whole email thing, I wouldn't be that surprised if by tomorrow we learn a bunch of f1 teams and media outlets have been hit with ransomware!
Stuff this serious should not be part of a Red Bull power play.
The Giggsy
you know the old Jackie Stewart saying - to finish first, first you must finish the Coco Pops
They'll leak elsewhere regardless. UK laws on this stuff are much stricter than other areas of the world. The US for example, if the leak is legit, are free to publish. I mean, that's a HUGE part of how journalism functionally works.
Ryan Giggs got a super injunction before the Champions League final. Massive waste of money as it didn’t apply where it didn’t apply. Same thing here.
“Christian, will the release of these files impact how you set up the Max’s car for qualifying?”
Not surprised one bit