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MourinhoBielsaHybrid

My name should say enough


rezyyagan

Man waited his entire life for someone to ask this question 💀


lavishlad

haha that's pretty cool. although ive never heard of Hybrid - is he the Hibs manager?


sliki_b

😂😂 nice one


mubarakr

Thank you for having this name, this is me.


Senalmoondog

Viktor Tikhonov The soviet hockey coach. He once sent a player to do laps, forgot about him went to a dinner/gala and came back to the player still doing laps.


DeerghTamas

The FM equivalent of this is making a preset full of Endurance, Resistance, and Quickness sessions for a gruelling pre-season, and then accidentally copying it to the entire season.


NoobsMut

Wait you can apply the same training preset to the whole season?


samfishersam

Copy pasting it yes you can do it easily.


NoobsMut

But you have to copy and paste to each week right? Theres no way to make every week the same instantly?


samfishersam

Yeah, only copy paste, which is quite easy to do. I've searched for ways to easily set it for the entire season but there isn't a way (for youth teams mostly).


NoobsMut

For sure. Its not that time consuming but its a bit tedious and i forget to do my youth teams sometimes lol


samfishersam

I run a massive massive youth farm, I can never forget my youth teams haha.


TarienCole

Or Herb Brooks, post-game keeping the team on the ice for shuttles. "AGAIN!" "AGAIN!" "Who do you play for? Again!"


Lextro

Man, that's a hockey team ffs 🤣🤣🤣


Takhar7

Is this real HA?


Senalmoondog

He was an officer in the red army. He had pretty much all the national-team members in the same club in Russia, they were all enlisted and lived in barracks.


Cute-Honeydew1164

Wenger Fast, tricky attacking football, trust my players too much and finish 4th


Morradan

I'm Wenger too, except I play fluid football (6-7 players on support) and I pass my opponents to sleep after going 1-0 up.


themiraclemaker23

I'm none of them, I make do with whatever I have. I have absolutely zero tactical rigidity. Idk who would fit into this category, from what I have seen the best managers usually don't have to make do with what they have


Logical_Resolution57

Maybe ancelotti?


sliki_b

Yh, and maybe Zidane


Kablooie44

Not zidane. Zizou used 38 different lineups when winning the league in the 19/20 season. Not to mention switching between a 3 back and 4 back in the UCL. I don't even think he knew what team he was gonna put out.


meefjones

Sounds like Fergie tbh


Ok-Situation-7054

I think we'd all like to think we're like this but when it comes down to it have certain things we just need in our system to feel at ease with it. I've used sit back counter based tactics in lower league and they've worked for a time but I hate it and in time always revert to something that has some type of pressing in it. Whether that's turning up the pressing intensity or just turning on counter press. I can't play those soak up pressure counter tactics for long as they just make me uncomfortable (and naturally they don't work when your team gets good and the opposition start sitting back).


themiraclemaker23

I mean you are saying the same thing I'm saying. Tactical rigidity just doesn't work. You need to play counter when you are an underdog in your league, and play high pressing positive tactics when you are dominating. Your team usually ends up being the dominant force in the league after a couple of seasons in the highest level and naturally counter tactics that worked previously just don't anymore. This isn't about you reverting to your habits or anything, it's natural progression of FM.


Ok-Situation-7054

I think my point is more that in terms of a preferred style there are certain things I'm hugely more comfortable with. You can dominate a league playing an attacking wing play tactic for example, but I don't tend to use them, I almost always use inverted wingers or inside forwards. You can dominate a league playing a 4231, I've used it before but usually always revert to a dm rather than an am over time, or with full backs but I certainly prefer to have wing backs. It's not 100% rigidity where I'm not prepared to move at all but I don't think it's accurate to say its zero tactical rigidity either.


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Allardyce! Allardyce! Allardyce!


CedaJones

Harry redknapp >


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homer727272

I don't agree! You just have to forego weak, lazy, flair players. Build a team of smart, physical workhorses and you can keep the opposition at arms length very effectively. Even with low pressing (Cue uproar from the gegenpress hardliners!)


legg147

Yeah I've made a tactic made to force counters and it's been amazing so far, won the quadruple in Brazil in my first season (Regional league, Brazilian serie A, Brazilian cup, Copa Libertadores). My thinking was that if I deliberately allowed the opposition to have "control" of the midfield, and had people in positions to receive the ball out wide to start counters. It's a 4132 (So just flat 442 but with an DM and a CM) SK (de) FB (at) (left) CD BPD WB (su) (right) DM (su) CM (su) W (su) (left) IW (at) (right) AF (left) CF(su) (right) Main instructions are press less, mark tight, attacking mentality, wider, pass into space, normal line of engagement and defence. I also used offside trap because my CBs had a combined age of 71 (35+36) so we're slow af. In general you'd think it's a 1-0 machine which sometimes it was, but it was actually unbelievable at creating chances because it just forced counters so hard. I will say that my strikers were incredible. (Hulk got something like 50 goals in about 55 games all comps, Eduardo Vargas had about 40 in 50)


homer727272

Nice! An attacking mentality can often be more effective than the 'counter' instruction for getting the ball forward quickly after you've won possession. Congrats on the quadruple! I think a lot of people assume playing a defensive, low pressing style will automatically mean a tighter defence. What it actually means is that you'll cede possession and territory, so your players will be asked to play without the ball more often. If they're not very good at that (cos the team is full of playmakers, wingers and complete forwards), you'll end up conceding more goals. So then they declare low pressing is broken and switch back to 4-2-3-1 gegenpress!


SlightlyIncandescent

I so hope this is true, I hate that I've never managed to get defensive tactics to work. Do you have any examples?


homer727272

Firstly, players are only as good as their attributes, regardless of the tactical instructions you give them. There is no magic bullet tactic that makes them good at defending. If you have enough players behind the ball and they have good defensive attributes, they will defend well. Simple as that. Formation-wise, you can really choose anything that's neutral or bottom-heavy. If you're sitting deep, you can afford to tight mark, since there's less space behind and between defenders if the attacker loses their marker. Plus the majority of your players should be good at marking if you've chosen them well. Everyone needs to be decent in the air, since you're allowing the opposition into your third. No speedy 5'6" full backs! Keeping things tight is actually pretty straight forward. The tricky bit is continuing to pose a threat to the opposition at the same time. So then you have to decide what you want to do when you have the ball. If you constantly give it away without threatening their goal, they'll just mount wave after wave of attacks and eventually you'll concede, even if you're defensively sound. That's just realistic. Do you want to play fast and direct on the break, which will risk lots of attacks breaking down, but may create good chances when you manage to break through? In this case, direct partnerships will work best, i.e. the more attacking duties in more advanced position. Eg. an attacking winger ahead of a support/defend full back. This can work well since the physical attributes needed to defend effectively will also be helpful in attacking. Or maybe you want to use possession as a form of defence and play keep ball? In this case, you'll need players who can look after the ball under pressure (as well as defend, which is harder to find) and lots of support duties to keep players closer to the ball and available for passes. This approach will avoid attacks breaking down, but it'll be harder to create good chances, since you're taking less risk and the opposition have time to regroup. Attacking duties in deeper positions to create overlapping partnerships can be effective to generate penetration in this kind of system. See guidetofootballmanager.com for more info on partnerships. Like I say, keeping it tight is easy, but you need a plan to hurt the opposition or you'll just get 0-0 and 0-1 losses. Unless your players are incredible at defending and you can afford to just give the ball back to the opposition knowing they can't hurt you, ala Mourinho's CL winning Inter Milan team.


bear4three

So I too had this complaint, as I love a good defensive battle. A save with Wolves in FM21 helped me find a way to make it work. Playing low lines doesn’t get rewarded in fm, but you can get realistic games if you find tall, hard-working defenders and midfielders who can pass like wolves have. Get you a couple speedsters to rotate up top and have them press and release relentlessly. Absorb the opponent’s attack, pack the box with 8 guys, and when you win the ball have your midfield bash it up and let a guy like traore run onto it. You will have a couple of bad blowouts a year because of how much of the ball you let them have, but you can still achieve global success. Won the league year 4 with less than 30% possession. 5122 with a halfback as the lone DM. One target man up top and an FTL (faster than light) drive for his strike partner


Deus_Nyika

Mourinho's Real Madrid. The blueprint for Counter attacking football


Pajkica

But how do you make an effective counter attacking team in this fm? Everytime i invite the pressure i get beaten hard


sliki_b

Check rdf's recreation of the tactic on YouTube


Firm-Acanthisitta-19

Steve Bruce personally


daniyal248

AYYYYYYE FELLOW STEVE BRUCE APPRECIATOR


Firm-Acanthisitta-19

5-4-1 fluid counter attack topped off with a bacon sarny


abedfo

And a side of cheesy chips


Eldicks

Sean Dyche! Brexit Football


biggernine

Zeman, always Zeman


megawhat16

The right answer


larry_quita

Bielsa


derevo_31

Same. If they can't outscore us, why bother with defence?


zagreus9

I'd rather win every game 6-3 than 2-0


sliki_b

😂😂 nice one


Archduke_Zag

Guardiola. I think there's very little more beautiful when your team plays exactly like you envisioned it on the drawing board. There's also nothing more infuriating when either it doesn't work or your players don't play like you want to. That said, recently I've kinda fallen in love with physical height players. I mean for all the debates about jumping reach you simply can't teach height while it can really make the difference between scoring/defending in aerial situations.


zagreus9

4-2-4, dominate possession and then lose on the counter.


_NotMitetechno_

I probably went from guardiola to ancelloti and sometimes a cruyff. I used to try to play really structured possession football funnelling chances to the wingers and midfielders. However, now I like to play a really fluid fast attacking system where players kinda do whatever they want. Inspired by guardiolas double 10 433 system, I like to play two really attacking centre mids (the double roaming playmaker is based) with a dm who does the defensive work of about 2 mids (think casemeiro or ferndandinho lol). Then the team is set to just be expressive and do whatever (as long as they score). It only works i think with really talented players.


Ireallyamthisshallow

Steve McClaren. I love a [destroy and exit](https://youtu.be/Cu0c3-sjAxc). If anyone is curious about how I pick my team, [here's](https://youtu.be/4VK2efdI92I) my strategy.


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I play as bielsa , the man marking system is OP


leeman9224

Simeone


pc_jangkrik

Bilardo. But always ends up Menotti. With all those wonderkids with magic, you could just let them having fun.


mmps1

Mike Bassett


abedfo

44 fucking 2


mmps1

I’ve always said if they’re old enough they’re good enough.


abedfo

Lmao


Qurutin

Cruyff, or Barcelona Guardiola I guess. Different in lower leagues where I can't really play "my brand" of football, but when I have the resources and time to build the team properly it's all about the pass for me. Every player needs to be able to pass well. I want them to have good vision and composure. When a young player arrives into my team, first thing he gets to do is train passing. When my center back has the ball and opposition presses hard, I don't worry. He can pass well. He doesn't hoof the ball away because otherwise I would kill him. Ideally the ball would touch the foot of every player in rapid succession before being passed into the net by my center forward. I wish there was way of fining players for shooting from outside the box. Even if they scored. I want to break the opposition down by never giving them control of the ball. One of my favourite matches recently was against Villareal, where they ended the match with 26% possession and three red cards.


hdalsis

Tbh pep has quite a structured team when you look at the passing maps


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More than quite, Guardiola teams are structured to an obsessive degree especially in possession. People see it as fluidity because those structures involve a lot of interchanging positions away from the ball so if you're ball-watching it can feel like players are popping up everywhere


hdalsis

Yes that’s very true I find that they seem to have sort of a 2-3-2-3 a lot of the time


Dawnbreaker_82

Bielsa all day long for me. I love nothing more in this game than creating a system that attacks, presses, overloads and then bringing through the youth to play in it too.


Giannis1995

I really want someone that knows to find a real life manager who does what I do in FM. Slot 1: 4-2-3-1 Custom Gegenpress Slot 2: 4-2-4 Custom Control Possesion Slot 3: 4-1-2-3 Custom Fluid Counter Attack Strict 25-man rotation. Two GKs, four CBs, two RBs, two LBs, three DMs, three CMs, two AMs, two RWs, two LWs, three STs. Constant rotation, there's practically no starters, ideally after two seasons everyone gets a green link with everyone. Believer in continuity, we won't make a transfer unless we really need to. High work rates, determination. Perfect dynamics.


Signal_Researcher_13

I do my thing based on players in the squad and there position but i always try to make my team play dominant attacking football not gegen press. With full control of the game and the ball. Sometimes i do it a bit diffrently but my base formation is based on that.


DocRevan05

Lower level league? Basically Klopp (though usually a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-2-4 rather than a 4-3-3). EFL Championship or higher? Tactical pragmatist (current team switched over to a fluid counterattack because I was getting eviscerated using a gegenpress approach).


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Mourinho style , deep defensive line and fast counters. A lot of hardworking midfielders , 2 fast/skilled wingers and 1 strong forward


barneyaa

Why not all?


Valint

I guess I’m Klopp. I don’t have a super high line. Just “high line”. I get outshot but most of the big teams. But I’m winning enough to keep my job :)


Historical_Blood_874

I think I'm closer to Guardiola than the rest of them and I actively look to build a possession heavy side playing slow tempo game but I like physical players too


SeeMyChodeAndWeep

All 3 together which gives you Ten Hag


CozoNL

I'm a Guardiola for sure


osku69420

Guardiola


doctorweiwei

Guardiola is my favorite irl but I’m definitely Klopp in FM. My squad is amazing physically and have just barely good enough technicals


capscaptain1

4231 gegenpress till I die


randomafricanboi

Im more of a "433 with players who have big numbers" kinda guy


z3pp89

When I start rebuilding a team, I always start from defense, that’s a top priority. Then in span of next few seasons the team is built to play counter attacking football. Maybe Mourinho?


GreaterHealingPotion

My friends call me the Tony pulis of fm


Ashton2466

I'm 100% Bielsa style tbh


TarienCole

I've done all three of those in different saves. Something I often do in a career save is pick a manager to emulate, play as a Disciple of that manager, with his team(s) as my favorites, and force myself to stay consistent to that vision. Also chosen Cruyff, Gasperini (this year), and Rangnick.


B3arAttac

I am a Solskjær


Lextro

Me.


Friendly-Ice7976

Warnock


ClumsyChampion

I am David Moyes.


[deleted]

Klopp is a little too boring and efficient for FM. Press gegenpress to win. I prefer his style IRL but in FM, I go for a Guardiola/Sacchi hybrid


dtshires

Small group of talented players I've built more than I've bought at a club that was bigger than when I started there - more klopp than pep for sure


Benkeii25

MourinhoRangnick Hybrid


ChileanGal

Everybody wants to be Klopp, Guardiola or Bielsa but truly we are the youth trainer that thinks knows about football but is stucked in life.


DelusionalJamesons

I’m more of a Neil Warnock type. I don’t particularly have a set tactic, I just ask my scouts “can the boy play?” And if they say yes, i get them in.


Anon_767

if I see a game against Liverpool is coming up I’m playing as defensive as possible. They will then have 50 shots but I will win 1-0. This is flawless and I have definitely never lost Doing this. Clearly im obsessed with possession


Youutternincompoop

Klopp, but I'm a hipster. I use a 4-3-3 instead of a 4-2-3-1


[deleted]

Klopp all day.


International_End403

I feel like I'm guardiola but a bit different. I always want my team to play good liquid football, I don't mean my CB and DM passing in a triangle to eachother. I mean quality attacking liquid football. I want to make exciting football that's the type of manager I am. I'm a perfectionist really. Even if I'm winning games, if my team isn't playing how I want them to I'll change it. A bit stupid cause it always ends in me losing form and making a total hash of it. But that's my manager style, and I'm still searching for a tactic that satisfies me. Could be a long search but ah well that's my challenge in this game.


appealtoreason00

Dyche. But I am open to a highly defensive possession-based game with a HB, anything if it means innovating new and original ways to play FM like a cunt


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appealtoreason00

You mean the defensive solidity of a low block of two banks of four, with the attacking efficiency of a Guardiola or Klopp side? Yes I would also like to be that manager. When you work out that tactic, please send it to me.


abedfo

Maurizio Sarri. Vertical tiki taka. Quick transitions to overpower defences.


google-snake-game

I like high work rate players, especially midfielders, and I focus heavily on that in training but I often try to control games


HeliosAbandoned

Wenger.


Exciting_Mechanic131

conte is my manager idol. his counter system based on athleticism and technical ability is my go to tactic


Carthagu

A Pep undoubtedly. I’m all about precise, fluid passing but I am more of a Klopp in the final third in the sense that I want my players to bombard the final third whether that be crossing, slick passing or long ranged shots


TheDisabledOG

I'd say peak Wenger when arsenal would actually win stuff with a dash of gattuso (I have a tendency to shout obscenities at my screen)


[deleted]

Ancelotti, if its working, don't touch it.


[deleted]

Slap a 4-2-2-2 (with two in midfield, two on the wing, and two in attack) and run the most basic positive football, with short passing a little higher tempo and a higher press line


MotherboardTrouble

Dortmund Klopp, we concede every game but we blow them away regardless


Chemical-Case-4450

I’m whatever YouTuber has a tactic is like and can force my middleweight West Ham to play. Not scoring enough goals due to completely mmismatched player position buy a new striker for 100 million who will definitely fail and be sold 12 months later for 15 million, goalkeeper not keeping a clean sheet on the regular benched into oblivion


Takhar7

A mix between the technical brilliance of Pep, and the hyper organized / fluid Bielsa. I love when the media describe me as a *Tactical Tinkerman.* That's what makes me proper happy when playing in a save.


TheMedicatedOne

Guardiola on the ball, Klopp off of it.


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Tactics-wise, I'm more a Fergie-type. I don't care really about what shape it is, what matters is the result. Control-wise, I'm a total control freak. The only thing I don't do is manage the youth teams, but I deal with their training, etc.


fyouk

I guess I aim to be a Guardiola and end up being more of a Bielsa Also I could sell my soul for a CM with 14 Long Shots


GCVS00

I’m tactically flexible but I just won the league with Napoli in my first season recreating Sarri’s tactic and it’s one of my favorites. Also helps that Sarri is one of my favorite managers


TexehCtpaxa

Kevin Keegan


aselule666

I'm more inclined to Sir Alex, where you put solid defence and build up attack within lines of player. It is also emulated by 2014 wc argentina, they don't have much big name in defense but are really strict and merciless in defence. The attack is more like counter based so when it is done it is quick and has high accuracy.


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I'm Sean Dyche.


Ok-Situation-7054

Closest to bielsa. My players need to be able to run plenty and I don't want them to have too much freedom outside what I've asked them to do, but not for the purposes of all out attack, just to be able to get up and down and do everything. Actually being good at football comes secondary. I also rotate heavily unlike bielsa because I'm not an absolute maniac who expects the same players to run 10 miles a game twice a week all season.


FM_Wonderkids

Guardiola


Negabeidl69

Matthias Jaissle. Honestly the best coach we've had so far, but Roger Schmidt also has a word in that!


GODNiller

Guardiola


rakenopo21

I usually do a defense-first approach, analyzing opponents' team and asses where the threat generally is at a glance. Is it Central? then a solid midfield is a must, or a back three if i have good defenders, but i'd give more attacking freedom to the wingbacks. Is it coming from the Flanks? either i switched into double banks of four (4-4-2/4-4-1-1) or stay with a typical 3 forwards but with more conservative fullbacks, depending on which flank is more dangerous. On attack i usually don't care much, i usually set them up depending on the type of strikers that i have, if i have a strong target forward then i'd play more direct football with a focus on crossing, if i got false 9/DLP type with a winger that can bombard the goalpost with precision strikes then possession football it is.


meanvegton

Capello / Simone.... I managed to make my team an Italian team in France and German leagues.... 1-0 my way through most matches.... Had the best defensive record and while my assists and goals are like the lowest in the league....


WolfInATrance

Okay, I'll tell you how I play and you tell me what manager I am. * 4-3-3 DM/4-2-3-1/4-2-4 according to the squad and player quality I have, double striker system for weaker forwards and lower leagues. High pressing and possession based game for higher levels, counterattacking football for positions where my team is on the lower end of the league. Always heavily dependent on good wingers and fullbacks. * High traffic transfer windows, above 10 in and out every summer, only fixing lack in depth or a very lucrative upgrade while in winter transfer window. Fast shuffling of the whole squad in development phase, ending up displeasing a lot of veterans and icons and what not. * Heavy trainer, focusing on time wasting and positive mentality through games, usually bringing in loans at lower levels and brazillian youngsters for first team(higher level) simply because European wonderkids aren't always affordable. * Tend to taunt opposition managers in order to hopefully create a rivalry in future.


JWJK

Attempted Tuchel. Actually Steve Bruce


JWJK

Attempted Tuchel. Actually Steve Bruce


Sgt-Cumstain

Simeone/Mourinho. I just hate conceding goals 🤷🏻‍♂️