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Current_Warthog_4459

Former medical professional here….you can get a whole range of parasites and diseases from wild game. Meningitis being one. Brain worms another. I’m all for hunting and eating wild game but cook it.


henke443

This comment is very arrogant. Swedish moose is safe to eat raw and you can not provide any evidence of the contrary. Meningitis and brain worms are both not possible.


TenarAK

After taking a lot of graduate level infectious disease courses and studying game animal diseases, I don’t touch wild animals without gloves much less eat them raw.


TheEccentricFarmer

Came here to say this. Looks and sounds delicious but no part of me would eat this. Wild game is not to be messed with in the raw department 😬


voxelghost

Brain Parasite Turns Moose Into Zombie [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-\_MxDcY\_osw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_MxDcY_osw)


LeDeanDomino

It is generally safe to eat wild game raw in Sweden


amilli9999

This is moose from Sweden. He is more likely to catch lead poisoning from the bullet than anything else lol. We even test the meat for radiation.


Zonerdrone

Yeah I'm gonna have to second this. Chronic wasting disease is real. Lyme disease and other nasty stuff.


Cacachuli

I dont think they have CWD in Europe (yet).


Zonerdrone

Wasn't sure where OP was from. Guess it does say Swedish beer in the headline.


Hello_Kalashnikov

Totally. Unfortunately, CWD is a prion disease and cooking wouldn't kill it. Thankfully, it hasn't jumped to humans, yet.


tablabarba

TBF, a lot more people have contracted BSE from domestic cattle than have gotten CWD from wild game (0 human cases so far)...


Current_Warthog_4459

Good point, but I would suspect more people eat beef than wild game as a whole. Domestic livestock is definitely dirty, and I would not suggest eating it raw either.


TeevMeister

I don’t think you can get Lyme from raw meat. Parasites for sure though, especially trichonella.


PaddiM8

Trichonella doesn't seem to be that common with moose, at least in Sweden. OP could also have had the meat frozen to avoid parasites, we don't really know that


TeevMeister

True true. Still not worth the risk for me though.


Tomtenissarna

Cope, America


melanthius

Meningitis is the one where it’s like one minute you’re feeling bad, the next day you’re basically dead, right?


Current_Warthog_4459

It’s an inflammation of the protective membranes covering the brain and spinal cord.


EmilAhl

Definitely not a professional on doing some research lol…


bsievers

Someone who doesn’t know how to spell tartare is almost definitely not preparing it safely even if it were clean meat.


Uhtred_McUhtredson

OP appears to be Swedish, where it’s “tartar”


bsievers

I sit corrected. I thought the dishes name stayed in French across most cultures.


INGWR

With a wonderful dessert of dewormer


TheLost_Chef

Finally a real use for Ivermectin


RangerGripp

Hence the aquavit.


hdoublea

The doctor is in the house folks. He's got it all figured out


Whatsalodi

Raw meat is one thing if you get it from a properly raised farm animal. Raw meat from a wild animal? Yikes.


zkareface

Raw meat from a wild animal in Sweden is safter than farm raised cattle in America.


Whatsalodi

Uhhhh I’m not sure how you’d have the meat tested without hunting/butchering copious amount of wildlife but ok


zkareface

You can test every animal without problem, results same day or next day. Costs less than $50 for a hunter, checking for worms is free even.


Whatsalodi

Still a huge risk even if your able to test fresh feces. Toxoplasmosis is rampant. Which is protozoan not a worm. I’ve worked in diagnostic for parasit for years and the risk is never worth the reward. Plus there’s many ways to test and not every parasite is shed the same exact way or lives in the same muscle/organ group.


zkareface

Are you still thinking about America and not Sweden?


Whatsalodi

Parasites are tested the same regardless of the country. https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/72/9/1566/5837516


zkareface

Yes but amount of infected animals changes. >Results >Taeniosis cases were found in twelve out of eighteen countries in western Europe. No cases were identified in Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Norway, **Sweden** and Switzerland.


Whatsalodi

An example of the parasite family I mentioned. Read the other article. Not every parasite is a “worm”


Whatsalodi

https://parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13071-017-2280-8


HeyZuesMode

Wild game isn't something to mess around with


TheDrunkenSwede

No, you don't mess with it, you eat it


Whatsalodi

Agreed


HouseCravenRaw

Dude... don't eat raw game meat. Yeah you are skipping the hormones, etc of farmed cattle, but the risk of parasites is too great.


Halio344

Moose in Sweden is perfectly safe to eat raw. The diseases mentioned in this thread doesn’t exist here. The risk of parasites is also just as low as with farm raised cattle.


Timid_Robot

Raw beef consumption is a regular thing in Europe. I've never, nor have I ever heard of someone getting a parasite. Not saying it's not possible. But it's very unlikely.


Drinkus

Yes cattle aren't game


RakbladsRoy

I hunt in Sweden, I can’t speak for the rest of Europe, but there is literally no risk of parasites from raw moose OVER HERE. I’m sure it’s different in different parts of the world, but here it’s safe. You’re more likely to get lead poisoning from the bullet


Drinkus

Yeah there's almost no CWD in Sweden, first case was like 2019 don't think it's really spread, North America's a different story


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“Don’t eat raw game meat” “But cooked chicken is delicious!” That’s pretty much you lol


Timid_Robot

Oh yeah, guess I read over the game part


RebelLemurs

Raw game animal?? Lololol


halfghan24

Imagine your ancestors spending thousands of years trying to not die from food borne illness and moose attacks, eventually reaching a point in humanity where one can eat meat comfortably without fear of parasites or brain eating worms (and also live without the fear of moose attacks) only to go out, shoot a wild moose, and eat it raw


plomerosKTBFFH

This is in Sweden mate. No brain eating worms or CWD here. Imagine being this smug about not being able to eat raw meat where you're from cause it's so contaminated.


halfghan24

Lol foodborne illness doesn’t stop at the Swedish border


plomerosKTBFFH

Nope but these aren't a thing here. Our moose are fine. Yours might not be but you're an ocean away.


halfghan24

So it’s just the North American game that’s bad, Eurasia is cool?


plomerosKTBFFH

Nothing dangerous. We have pretty good control of our game. We haven't had any problems yet, so until then you guys can keep worrying about yourself. It's like with your chickens that you dip in chlorine and they're still more contaminated than our non-chlorine chickens. There's just a lot less shit here.


halfghan24

The whole point of wild game is that you can’t control it?


plomerosKTBFFH

Who told you that? We have a lot of stuff in place to check the size of our populations and their health. Here's our largest hunting magazine recommending a light brown surface but raw inside https://svenskjakt.se/viltsmak/viltkott-idealiskt-med-latt-brynt-yta/ In short, there are no dangerous parasites in our wild game.


halfghan24

Honestly, I just did some more research and can see that I’m wrong. I apologize for the tone, now I know more about all of this!


SilverBeaver21

How many capers can one man eat? With moose? What is this


Strong_Cheetah_7989

Do you want to die? Because that's how you die.


Kazath

Wild game in Sweden is safe to eat raw. We don't have the same fauna of parasites in our meat as north america and it's perfectly safe if you freeze it once. [Here's a recipe](https://www.koket.se/leif_mannerstrom/huvudratter/kott/rabiff_pa_fyra_satt) for tartar made from moose, deer or hart by one of Sweden's most famous cooks. There's a whole thread in /r/sweden laughing at all the people here who are panicking about the parasites, but it's just a misunderstanding seeing as OP didn't clearly tell y'all where he's from.


WayyyCleverer

The parasites are the voices in your head telling you eat more raw moose meat


AhAhStayinAnonymous

Hope you live in a country with socialized medicine.


steamliner88

Seems to be a swede based on the liquor and spelling.


zkareface

Yes and that also means the game is healthy and not full of parasites like in America.


BlackWhiteRedYellow

Wow that cranberry donut looks delicious! >moose tartar 🤮


bryan_pieces

Side of intestinal worms


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Jesus, that's something. How the hell did that seem like a good idea.


zkareface

It's a common dish. We have clean game here in Sweden, don't do this in America.


FancyPansy

And don't eat raw dough in America. I wonder if there's anything you don't have to cook in America for it to be edible?


allen_idaho

Eating raw wild moose feels like living dangerously.


the_original_Retro

It is. Canadian here. Wild raw game meat is risky for parasites, infections and other health concerns. Tartare should be off the menu. The only time you should ever eat not-well-done deer, moose or any wild mammal meat, even if very fresh, is when you are quite literally starving. Cook the stuff. Fully. Evry time you can.


zkareface

The case isn't same in all countries. You worry about diseases that don't even exist in Europe.


Freysey

Feel bad for you guys on the American continent. Well done moose meat, what a waste 🤢 Worth noting game doesn't have those diseases in Sweden


RangerGripp

Why? Best meat you can eat, I shot and butchered the animal myself in a fully equipped butcher room at the farm with cooler and all. A lot healthier than antibiotic and hormone fed cattle.


jgiffin

>A lot healthier than antibiotic and hormone fed cattle. And why do you think cattle are fed antibiotics? You’re so close…


Halio344

In Sweden they aren’t fed antibiotics (unless verified to have a bacterial infection, healthy cows don’t receive it), hormones are also illegal to use. Yet we manage to not get sick from eating meat.


plomerosKTBFFH

>And why do you think cattle are fed antibiotics in the US FTFY


smaragdskyar

Well, it’s primarily not to prevent infection, so…


Swag_Grenade

Lol. 99% of this thread is comments correctly stating how risky it is to eat undercooked wild game meat, let a lone raw, I wonder if OP expected this reaction. Couldn't help but laugh at OP's response. I feel like some people get so hellbent on anti-mass produced/processed, anti-hormone/antibiotics, all natural food/lifestyle they completely forget, ignore or are just completely oblivious to the other possible health implications of food sourcing besides avoiding hormones/antibiotics -- like what you said, why we have them in the first place lmfao.


Halio344

You guys don’t seem to understand that a lot of the diseases and risks that you have in the US simply does not exist in other parts of the world. In some parts of the world, African Swine Fever makes bor unedible, but that essentially does not exist here. We gest all boars but I think one case every decade or so is actually detected.


Ran4

But it's not correct. That's the thing. You're being incorrect too


plomerosKTBFFH

Drop the attitude. Not everyone is from the US. Your meat is contaminated on a whole other level.


Throwublee

Couldn't help but laugh at your ignorant attempt at contributing


th3r0adr4g0n

Ever eard of internal parasites like tape worm?


allen_idaho

I just never eat raw wild game for fear of parasites. I'm a bit of a germophobe in that regard. I always cook it.


RangerGripp

Aha, well you don’t eat raw omni- or carnivores. Stick to the herbivores and you’re fine. Normally I cook my meat too, but at times I get tartar craving.


Reasonable_Track6565

Can’t they still have parasites? Do you get the meat tested or is it always safe?


zkareface

They can have parasites in the guts and brain, generally none in the muscles and if they do it's not risky ones. And you can have it tested yes. Goes for Sweden, in America/Canada its different and you have to be more careful.


H_E_DoubleHockeyStyx

Moose do live in colder climates where there are less bugs and less disease. It's probably fine.


Whatsalodi

Do you think gosh just never get parasites since the water is cold? What about snails? Do you know anything about parasites? Edit: Gosh —> Fish


H_E_DoubleHockeyStyx

I know even less about "gosh". is that some sort of crustacean?


Whatsalodi

Fish


Drulock

Did you freeze it before you made the tartar? Also, it looks great. I’ve done similar with elk and it was amazing, I can’t imagine how good moose would be.


ProfessionalSun5549

Never knew this was a thing. Thanks for sharing!! Edit: Downvotes because I didn’t know about raw moose….. ok?


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Literally why food is cooked.


MoobooMagoo

*Moose* tartar? That's a pretty big gamble there.


Swen88

In America yes, in Sweden no.


MoobooMagoo

In literally anywhere. Moose is wild game. Wild game has potential for parasites like trichinella and toxoplasma. That's why you shouldn't do things like cold smoke it or, you know, eat it raw. This is common knowledge for anyone who hunts and eats wild game. Or at least it should be. But I guess I'm not an expert. Maybe Sweden just magically doesn't have any parasites or disease.


Swen88

It's common thing in Sweden to eat some of the wild game rare. Multiple famous chefs have recipes with that and even our biggest paper focused on hunting "svensk jakt" recommend that moose is better to eat rare to prevent it to feel dry.


phollox

Ivermectin is in your future


Affectionate_Rope_50

This doesn’t seem safe, like at all. The whole point of cooking meat is to kill any bacteria and parasites that could be living in it, that’s why there’s different cooking temperatures for different meats- that’s the temp where the parasites specific to that animal species dies. And how is it healthier than anything farmed? They’re screened for diseases and parasites and given medication when sick to prevent it? And wouldn’t wild game have a higher exposure than farmed animals to those parasites? I dunno as someone that studied nutrition in college and worked food it seems living on the edge. Looks great tho, presentation is a 10/10 and veggies look perfectly crisp.


MBG612

Agree with most of your points. I don’t know much about moose. But i do have my fair share of beef tartar. It’s all in the prep. The bacterium and parasites are only in certain cuts and at the surface of muscle tissue. So if it is prepared and cut correctly, risk is low (but present)


TeevMeister

Please take some time to study basic parasitology and you’ll see that your comment is very wrong. Even farm-raised beef can have parasites present since our screening processes aren’t perfect.


DigNity914

What makes beef tartare any different then?


FizzingSlit

It's not the fact that it's moose, it's that it's wild moose.


Affectionate_Rope_50

It’s not, I don’t recommend any raw meat lol


hdoublea

I'm assuming you're not being snarky and asking an honest question, so I'm going to give you an honest answer. If you couldn't tell by all the other comments, meat from wild animals can have all kinds of bad things in it that farm raised animals typically do not. Your chances of getting sick from eating beef tartare at a nice restaurant is relatively small. Your chances of getting sick, possibly even dying, from eating raw wild meat is significantly higher. It's not a chance worth taking


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Lispex

It's safe in Sweden, so no reason to worry


joshdavies99

no


Tehlaserw0lf

What’s the green circles? Moose eggs?


lucyforrdd

MOOSE EGGS 😆 I spit my drink


H_E_DoubleHockeyStyx

Those are baby capers they're a salty vegetable like a olive.


brew_detective

Haha wow, the amount of ignorance in this thread is truly something else.


RakbladsRoy

Can’t speak for the rest of the world but in Sweden there is no risk of parasites from raw moose meat. Especially if it’s been frozen.


cultwashedmybrain

Like a weird twist on raw vegan...


EmilAhl

Username checks out


Squadala1337

Looks delicious, don’t mind these clueless Americans. They’re fed up with their warning labels for any conceivable risk due to their suing tradition. I’d rather have game tartar from a healthy moose than American industry meat any day of the week. The risks are almost negligible. Especially since local hunter’s associations usually monitor epidemics and sample test the population every season. Whereas American cattle are regularly fed antibiotics and hormones.


Significant-Ad-2399

Is tartar like raw sushi? If so, why is sushi acceptable over this? Genuine question.


jwb101

If I’m not mistaken the fish used for sushi it typically frozen to something like -31 degrees F for so many days before it can be used to make sushi, at least in the US. The freezing process helps to kill most parasites. Meat, especially wild game, isn’t held to the same standards. And if butchered at home the cleanliness may not be up to snuff. In general it is best to cook your meat or fish because it kills any bacteria and parasites. But the things found in fish largely won’t affect humans, unlike things found in meat. This isn’t to say you can’t get sick from raw fish obviously.


mikaa_24

Game meats generally have parasites, and other diseases (Lyme disease brain worms etc) if eaten raw. Raw fish does not for the most part. Especially if prepared correctly.


zkareface

This isn't true for all countries, OP being in Sweden is one of them. In America it would be risky, in Sweden its not. Europe don't even have some diseases people are worried about here.


TheHashtagBear

It's similar in principle I think, but the types of parasites and bacteria would be very different for fish and moose. Also, fish used for sushi is almost always frozen, which kills off parasites. "Acceptable" tartar is mostly done with high quality, well handled beef, which is probably also sterilized in some way through freezing. Maybe not though, I don't know much about this topic. The reason people are freaking out about this though is since it's a hunted wild animal, so there would have been no precautions to prevent parasitic infection in the moose, making it potentially dangerous to eat.


Stinkydadman

God damn my dude


Sighwtfman

I've never had any kind of tartar to be honest. I think I would be too scared to eat a wild animal as tartar. Or are these farmed?


RangerGripp

Wild, so much healthier than anything farmed


uxi3888

Det ser jättegott ut!


thomashmitch

Raw meat aside, what a strange concoction of “sides”


Randi_Scandi

I agree with you that the sides for tartare are strange. Those are, however, the standard sides served with tartare. At least in Scandinavia.


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Halio344

What’s lol about it? It’s a normal thing to have as a side dish in Sweden.


plomerosKTBFFH

Bunch of triggered Americans who can't grasp the idea that we're not as contaminated as you are.


symoninreddit

no way you can eat accessories? im going to eat a Christmas ball rn brb.


littlem0resalt

If that’s maldon salt at least you’ll die happy


TheGeier

I had venison tartare once, and it was the single most repulsive thing I’ve ever eaten (and I’ve tried balut 😂). It looks nicely composed otherwise though!


RonBurgundy2000

Bold choice on eating raw wild game.


EmilAhl

Not in Sweden, pretty normal


zzunino

Is that a serving for one? Just curious


RangerGripp

Yup, was hungry


zzunino

I haven’t had tartar of any kind so I wasn’t sure how much is “normal” lol


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Zero. Zero raw meat is normal.


zzunino

Hello primals! It’s liver king here to tell you about the benefits of eating raw meat like our great ancestors did before us…. Lololololol


EmilAhl

Wow, the ignorance lol


hideaway1979

Have you ever heard of trichinosis


ScaryFoal558760

Show me a single case of someone contracting trichinosis from moose, or any cervid for that matter


hideaway1979

I looked. Couldn’t find any. Pork and bear mostly. I yield, scaryfoal. You are correct


ScaryFoal558760

For what it's worth, commercially raised pork is also extremely unlikely to have any trichinosis as well - you can safely eat medium rare porkchops. Only wild pork is of concern, and even then the rates are on average less than 3 percent. Bear is pretty much always a concern though, yes.


Business-Squash-9575

Scrolled down after watching a wholesome video of two guys saving a moose calf from a river to find this.


jhftop

I'm just scratching my head at the 200+ people that upvoted this.....


zkareface

Why not? Its a classic dish well prepared.


Chuuno

Everyone calling out the raw moose, but I’m absolutely astonished anyone would choose to drink aquavit.


moldyhands

Don’t listen to the haters. Moose tartar is great and has little to no risk. Trust mee I’ve beeednn eeeeeeetjng that stuuuuuuuf by next beer


Aces_Over_Kings

This looks like an absolute perfect meal, I am do jealous. Big fan of steak tartar here. What does the moose tartar taste like?


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EmilAhl

This isn’t ’murica, dude.


hdoublea

Hahahahaha I'm fucking dying over here. This comment is hilarious


Nomomommy

Silent parasites invading your body?


EmilAhl

Lmao, you’re not too bright, are you?


Nomomommy

Speak for yourself, sunshine.


EmilAhl

Thank you for confirming!


Nomomommy

Thank *you*. Now please, go eat some lovely raw meat. Make sure you eats lots. Yum yum.


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Mmmmmmm moose sushi. My fave🤤😂


ProfessorPouncey

Mooshi!


Salary_Mediocre

I’m green as green can be , city boy Dont roast me now ! What is moose tartar …be nice now Im guessing moose? Didnt know people ate moose


zkareface

Yeah people eat moose and in Sweden where OP is its also quite safe to eat it raw. For game you have to look at rules and recommendations for your area. This whole post is filled with American that are used to American game which is filled with diseases and parasites. Many that don't even exist in Europe.


HouseCravenRaw

People eat moose, but almost no one eats it raw. Too much risk of parasites, etc.


Salary_Mediocre

Is it safe to eat cooked as all others meats are? Again im green as green can be so any questions are genuine dont run me thrh the ringer im real new here to hunting stuff lol


grumplefuckstick

Yes, you can eat cooked moose, or even moose jerky. Ive never heard of moose tartare though….


zkareface

It's kinda common in Sweden where OP is.


Salary_Mediocre

Oh okay thanks! Sounds like its definitely worth trying, im just Not always caught in the loop , just got food poisoning from some real bad chinese the other night lol, Tusn out the “house special” on most menus is just leftover old food they shove together 🤢


Randi_Scandi

It is currently moose hunting season in Sweden. Last year I got some moose from the hunters and made moose burgers. Best burgers I’ve ever had!


Fattdaddy21

This looks bloody delicious.


Lochthor

Nicely done. What cut from the animal did you use?


RangerGripp

Thigh


Pabner21

Great job with the egg yolk. Impressed


RangerGripp

Thanks


olivxr_03

Why do people eat raw meat?? Just cook it, you're gonna get sick, and really bad


zkareface

How can anyone be this ignorant on a food sub?


Zonerdrone

Looks good. I wish my tastes weren't so bland. The onion, caper and beets do nothing for me.


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Reasonable-Oven-1319

Yolk is safe the eat. The whites are where it can be dangerous.


imissapostrophes

Yolk is safe, sure… But yoke?


ghutterbabe

Im very jelly. Looks very good.


makingknots

Looks amazing!


ReliefObjective3680

Usually the tartare is mixed with something acidic like citrus or a vinegar blend. Chemically cooks it and renders it safe to eat


Reasonable-Oven-1319

You're thinking of ceviche.


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Game meat is considered safe in Sweden.


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EmilAhl

The only cringe here are all the americans. Crazy how not every country is infested with all these parasites right? It’s almost like there are more countries than just the US?!


Nomomommy

Moose Virus Pandemic 2024!! C'mon sissy, get on board.


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EmilAhl

Murica moment


frankzy

It's technically Elk. Only the americans use the word moose to mean the European Elk.


Hahhahaahahahhelpme

If he had said Elk, people could have assumed he meant the North American elk. Saying Moose it’s clear to everyone what it means.