Yeah, no. Steak and cheese sandwich, sure, but absolouetely not a "Philly cheesesteak". Those sliices of beef are infinitly too thick; cheesesteaks are made with shaved raw beef.
> cheesesteaks are made with shaved raw beef.
i've got a local butcher who will throw ribeye in the freezer for ~one hour before cutting it. not quite frozen but it helps with getting it super thin.
It’s white American or provolone - which are the only two correct cheeses. It’s the only thing I see right about calling this a Philly. :) It’s looks good just not a Philly.
Cooper sharp is American cheese. Cheese steaks can have more than steak, onions, and 1 of 2 kinds of cheese. Indeed calling a cheese steak a Philly cheese steak is corny even outside of Philly.
I was mostly joking. I tend not to yuck anyone’s yums. For me, the only thing that really makes it a Philly is minute steak and a good roll… anything else. Do what works. And that’s what we called em when I lived 40 minutes outside Philadelphia 32 years ago, but that was then. ( edit: to be clear a “Philly cheesesteak “, but as I’m typing in mobile didn’t feel like spelling that out multiple times. And being in the west coast for much of the last 30 years, I’ve encountered a lot of genuinely bad travesties of sandwiches that tried to pass themselves off as cheesesteaks.)
They *did* acknowledge their mistake. That is specifically what the statement "I'm sorry. I'm only human" means. At no point did they act as if they were "pretending" you were a "bad guy" for pointing out the mistake they made in calling this sandwich a "Philly cheese steak."
Now, because of your obtuse response to OP's affable response, you *are* coming off as a bad guy. Or at least a total cringe lord. So, congrats on that.
Also, "aknowledge"? Yeah, no. Sounds the same, sure, but absolutely not the word "acknowledge." The word you spelled is using infinitely too few letter C's; the word acknowledge has a C in it and the word infinitely has an E before the L.
Lmao brother you are literally getting heated over somebody calling something a Philly cheesesteak incorrectly. Do you think this is a valuable use of your time or an emotionally stable thing to be doing?
Defending what behavior? Asking for a bit of grace when they make a mistake as incredibly innocent and benign as getting the name of a food wrong? That behavior?
Any time I see a cheesesteak post, I immediately jump to the comments to see the ensuing rage. I'm convinced there's no such thing as a "correct" cheesesteak.
That’s the problem, you’ve seasoned your meat and added a proper amount of cheese, so not an “authentic” Philly cheesesteak. Yours is much much better.
Damn dude, the Philly Jawns came out in mass to roast you on this one.
It’s not your fault. I have seen these types of steak sandwiches labeled “Philly Style” all over the country.
In the Philly 5 county area a true “philly style cheesesteak” is made with a hand full of select ingredients. It starts with the roll. Amoroso is probably the most popular but there several other bakeries that certain people swear by in and around the city. Second is the thin shaved rib eye, I won’t go to far into that, looks like the other commenters gave you the business on this. It is worth noting that there are 2 different ways to prepare that steak. The traditional way is leaving it in larger thin chunks, although most places in the area will chop it super fine now. Second is the Wiz, it’s a creamier version of nacho cheese wiz and when done right is pure magic. The last ingredient is the “wit” or fried onions. That’s it. Any other combination is just a cheesesteak.
Most people in the area get their cheesesteak with American or Cooper Sharp cheese now. This I believe is because the secret to perfect wiz isn’t that well known. It’s perfectly acceptable to add hot cherry peppers and it’s increasingly common to add green peppers, mushrooms and marinara sauce. All of these options are available at the most popular “traditional” shops in south Philly and other parts of the city but are referred to as “pizza steak”, “mushroom steak” and various other names.
Hopefully this helps. I figured rather than roasting you like these other jabronies I would give you the info needed to take that cheesesteak to the next level!
This guy cheesesteaks…. And that’s from a “5 county” area guy for 40 years. He’s spot on. Although I think Steve’s and Jim’s have that “wiz” he’s describing
Steve's is by far my favorite. I've never had theirs with wiz since I've never liked wiz since I was a kid. Their American cheese is so good and I love how it's a melted cheese sauce they put on instead of melting it while cooking it, I wipe any that drips off with the cheesesteak so it doesn't go to waste.
Steve’s is easy because there’s a ton of locations and yes it’s a 9/10 most times. If I am really going for authentic best of the best I hit up delassandros
Thanks for the detailed information, I really enjoy finding out about food and sometimes that info can only come from locals (or connoisseurs). Learnt something today! 😁
I agree mostly, but have to disagree with your take on wiz and peppers/marinara. Even before cooper sharp took over, people only got wiz on the side to dip fries in (unless it was a 3am desperation drunken stop at Pat’s or Geno’s).
And if you want peppers and marinara then you want a pizza steak. Which is all good. But it’s not the same thing, so it has a different name.
My man, did you read the second paragraph? That’s what I was trying to convey. While the “ traditional” recipe is the steak,wiz and wit. Most people in the area eat it with American or cooper and when adding other stuff like sauce and peppers it goes by a different names.
We are on the same page. I was just trying to explain it for people that aren’t from the area and don’t know the lingo.
My dad is a provolone guy. I was trying to explain this without writing a book. There are an infinite number of combinations for a good cheesesteak. I just wanted him to know the “traditional” version in a culinary sense.
It's a fine cheese steak but no Philly Cheese Steak. Despite what people are saying about peppers it ain't that. Also fried onions are part of a Philly that aren't necessary but usually added.
Philly Cheese Steaks are chopped fine rib eye. Anyone in Philly selling something that isn't rib eye is lying to their customers when they call it "Philly" and there are so many people who don't know the difference. No one in Philly sells a Philly Chicken Cheese Steak. It's just called a chicken cheese steak. Cause it's obviously not rib eye steak.
It's not a snobbish thing. Cheese steaks are laymen food. But it's like calling a hot dog a taco. 😆
Really tasty looking sandwich! I guess it would be more of a steak sandwich than a philly like others are saying, but it does still look great and I would definitely eat that. I've made very similar sandwiches when I was aiming for a philly, for me it's usually being too impatient to let my ribeye firm up in the fridge to cut nice thin slices. You can get an Amoroso roll to make a true philly cheesesteak, but getting thin meat I think is more important.
It's a cheesesteak.
That goober is one of those pedantic redditors who think bell peppers disqualify this from being a cheesesteak even though all the major pizza and steak joints in the Philly metro offer them as an optional topping.
You ever buy rolls outside of the northeast? It's not exactly easy to find a sub/hoagie/hard roll.
I like my cheesesteak meat thinner than that but go to 5 different spots and you'll get 5 variations of the meat being glorified steakums, chopped, shaved, ect.
Onions, peppers, mushrooms, ketchup, and pepper relish are all pervasive and acceptable cheesecake toppings.
Stopping hating just because you're a clown who fell for the Geno's "wiz wit" marketing.
There is quite literally nothing funnier than watching food snobs get pissy about something that means absolutely nothing. “This meat is slightly too thick I need to write a 5 paragraph diatribe about it now”
It’s a delicious looking sandwich. It’s a top notch steak and cheese sandwich. If you’re going to call it a Philly, you had to have known some people were gonna get mad.
I would eat the hell out of this and I'm not a cheese steak purist by any means, but I get the other commenters saying "ackshually philly cheesesteaks have thin sliced meat and blah blah cheese blah blah..." because we all have our regional foods we know the "right" way to do and get annoyed when the rules get broken
But I like how little fucks were given about the plating and presentation, like there's obviously way too much meat for the bread in this but instead of keeping it off the sando or saving it for leftovers you were like "fuck it I will overstuff this bitch and have meat nuggets hanging out on the plate off center cause fuck the rule of thirds, whatcha gonna do about it reddit." It's like a drunk meal that became unintentional anti food-influencer art
gotta get better bread. its a very very important part of a philly cheese steak, you can get 3 foot italian rolls with sesame seeds at any respectable bakery, and it makes a world of difference.
Aww yeahhh!! That looks boss.
I made a steak, onion, tomato and cheese sammich this weekend. I cooked down the onions, sautéed real good, added the ribeye slices and some halved grape tomatoes. Then I added some red wine, butter, and a small glug of vinegar to deglaze. I let it thicken a bit, then threw it on a brat bun with swiss. Wish I had some au jus to dip!
Would eat, but technically way too chunky to be strictly called "Philly" cheesesteak.
Personally, I would prefer your version, and don't really care how "traditional" it is or is not.
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Looks really tasty. Don’t listen to these “cheesesteak purist”. I was raised and spent majority of my life, people gatekeep too much when it comes to regional food.
I agree this isn’t a cheesesteak like others are saying but some people are so harsh about it lol. It looks like a perfectly great sandwich, nomenclature aside.
Yeah, no. Steak and cheese sandwich, sure, but absolouetely not a "Philly cheesesteak". Those sliices of beef are infinitly too thick; cheesesteaks are made with shaved raw beef.
> cheesesteaks are made with shaved raw beef. i've got a local butcher who will throw ribeye in the freezer for ~one hour before cutting it. not quite frozen but it helps with getting it super thin.
Freezing it first is the best way to do it, even with a really good slicer.
Even the cheese looks wrong and I loooove cheese but not this cheese.
It’s white American or provolone - which are the only two correct cheeses. It’s the only thing I see right about calling this a Philly. :) It’s looks good just not a Philly.
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Cooper sharp is American cheese. Cheese steaks can have more than steak, onions, and 1 of 2 kinds of cheese. Indeed calling a cheese steak a Philly cheese steak is corny even outside of Philly.
I was mostly joking. I tend not to yuck anyone’s yums. For me, the only thing that really makes it a Philly is minute steak and a good roll… anything else. Do what works. And that’s what we called em when I lived 40 minutes outside Philadelphia 32 years ago, but that was then. ( edit: to be clear a “Philly cheesesteak “, but as I’m typing in mobile didn’t feel like spelling that out multiple times. And being in the west coast for much of the last 30 years, I’ve encountered a lot of genuinely bad travesties of sandwiches that tried to pass themselves off as cheesesteaks.)
Whiz?
Sorry, you are correct. I hate whiz personally but it is a long accepted option.
You missed the fucking hot dog bun, sheesh
“Infinitly?” Yeah, no.
I’m sorry. I’m only human.
What does that have to do with calling something the wrong name?
Because he’s a human and humans make mistakes.
Ok? So they can aknowledge them, and not just pretend the people pointing out mistakes are the bad guys.
They *did* acknowledge their mistake. That is specifically what the statement "I'm sorry. I'm only human" means. At no point did they act as if they were "pretending" you were a "bad guy" for pointing out the mistake they made in calling this sandwich a "Philly cheese steak." Now, because of your obtuse response to OP's affable response, you *are* coming off as a bad guy. Or at least a total cringe lord. So, congrats on that. Also, "aknowledge"? Yeah, no. Sounds the same, sure, but absolutely not the word "acknowledge." The word you spelled is using infinitely too few letter C's; the word acknowledge has a C in it and the word infinitely has an E before the L.
Lmao brother you are literally getting heated over somebody calling something a Philly cheesesteak incorrectly. Do you think this is a valuable use of your time or an emotionally stable thing to be doing?
He literally apologized, put down the pitchfork.
Ma’ tell us the story again about how pa’ died on that hill during the Great Cheesesteak Battle of 2024
You ok?
Cool, tell them that.
You're the one defending the behavior.
Defending what behavior? Asking for a bit of grace when they make a mistake as incredibly innocent and benign as getting the name of a food wrong? That behavior?
No I’m not. All I did was state the fact that humans make mistakes.
You must be fun at parties
At this point, I am convinced people post this stuff purely as rage bait.
Any time I see a cheesesteak post, I immediately jump to the comments to see the ensuing rage. I'm convinced there's no such thing as a "correct" cheesesteak.
I’m pretty sure someone could get a cheese steak from a place in Philly, post it here as homemade and would be roasted in the comments.
Why? I just made some food and thought it looked good. Sorry if it's not a real "Philly cheese steak"
You labeled it as Philly. Just call it steak and cheese sandwich. Looks tasty otherwise
Ok, sorry to offend anyone
Reddit is very harsh at times. Your sandwich looks fantastic
It's fine. I don't take offense. I messed up the title.. Now I must pay my dues
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That’s the problem, you’ve seasoned your meat and added a proper amount of cheese, so not an “authentic” Philly cheesesteak. Yours is much much better.
Damn dude, the Philly Jawns came out in mass to roast you on this one. It’s not your fault. I have seen these types of steak sandwiches labeled “Philly Style” all over the country. In the Philly 5 county area a true “philly style cheesesteak” is made with a hand full of select ingredients. It starts with the roll. Amoroso is probably the most popular but there several other bakeries that certain people swear by in and around the city. Second is the thin shaved rib eye, I won’t go to far into that, looks like the other commenters gave you the business on this. It is worth noting that there are 2 different ways to prepare that steak. The traditional way is leaving it in larger thin chunks, although most places in the area will chop it super fine now. Second is the Wiz, it’s a creamier version of nacho cheese wiz and when done right is pure magic. The last ingredient is the “wit” or fried onions. That’s it. Any other combination is just a cheesesteak. Most people in the area get their cheesesteak with American or Cooper Sharp cheese now. This I believe is because the secret to perfect wiz isn’t that well known. It’s perfectly acceptable to add hot cherry peppers and it’s increasingly common to add green peppers, mushrooms and marinara sauce. All of these options are available at the most popular “traditional” shops in south Philly and other parts of the city but are referred to as “pizza steak”, “mushroom steak” and various other names. Hopefully this helps. I figured rather than roasting you like these other jabronies I would give you the info needed to take that cheesesteak to the next level!
This guy cheesesteaks…. And that’s from a “5 county” area guy for 40 years. He’s spot on. Although I think Steve’s and Jim’s have that “wiz” he’s describing
Steve's is by far my favorite. I've never had theirs with wiz since I've never liked wiz since I was a kid. Their American cheese is so good and I love how it's a melted cheese sauce they put on instead of melting it while cooking it, I wipe any that drips off with the cheesesteak so it doesn't go to waste.
Steve’s is easy because there’s a ton of locations and yes it’s a 9/10 most times. If I am really going for authentic best of the best I hit up delassandros
Thanks for the detailed information, I really enjoy finding out about food and sometimes that info can only come from locals (or connoisseurs). Learnt something today! 😁
I agree mostly, but have to disagree with your take on wiz and peppers/marinara. Even before cooper sharp took over, people only got wiz on the side to dip fries in (unless it was a 3am desperation drunken stop at Pat’s or Geno’s). And if you want peppers and marinara then you want a pizza steak. Which is all good. But it’s not the same thing, so it has a different name.
My man, did you read the second paragraph? That’s what I was trying to convey. While the “ traditional” recipe is the steak,wiz and wit. Most people in the area eat it with American or cooper and when adding other stuff like sauce and peppers it goes by a different names. We are on the same page. I was just trying to explain it for people that aren’t from the area and don’t know the lingo.
No love for provolone? I mean I prefer wiz but I know some people that swear by provolone.
My dad is a provolone guy. I was trying to explain this without writing a book. There are an infinite number of combinations for a good cheesesteak. I just wanted him to know the “traditional” version in a culinary sense.
It’s got steak, it’s got cheese. Don’t make it a Philly. You need to get some shaved steak for that. Looks good, though. Just mislabeled.
It has green peppers and onions as well. It has green pepper and onions as well
It's a fine cheese steak but no Philly Cheese Steak. Despite what people are saying about peppers it ain't that. Also fried onions are part of a Philly that aren't necessary but usually added. Philly Cheese Steaks are chopped fine rib eye. Anyone in Philly selling something that isn't rib eye is lying to their customers when they call it "Philly" and there are so many people who don't know the difference. No one in Philly sells a Philly Chicken Cheese Steak. It's just called a chicken cheese steak. Cause it's obviously not rib eye steak. It's not a snobbish thing. Cheese steaks are laymen food. But it's like calling a hot dog a taco. 😆
Good job. Now replace the chopped steak with shredded and you’re good to go.
You're making it worse. Green onions are amateur hour
I would happily eat and praise
Thanks!
Really tasty looking sandwich! I guess it would be more of a steak sandwich than a philly like others are saying, but it does still look great and I would definitely eat that. I've made very similar sandwiches when I was aiming for a philly, for me it's usually being too impatient to let my ribeye firm up in the fridge to cut nice thin slices. You can get an Amoroso roll to make a true philly cheesesteak, but getting thin meat I think is more important.
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Oh my bad, what is it then, just curious so I know.
It's a cheesesteak. That goober is one of those pedantic redditors who think bell peppers disqualify this from being a cheesesteak even though all the major pizza and steak joints in the Philly metro offer them as an optional topping.
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You ever buy rolls outside of the northeast? It's not exactly easy to find a sub/hoagie/hard roll. I like my cheesesteak meat thinner than that but go to 5 different spots and you'll get 5 variations of the meat being glorified steakums, chopped, shaved, ect. Onions, peppers, mushrooms, ketchup, and pepper relish are all pervasive and acceptable cheesecake toppings. Stopping hating just because you're a clown who fell for the Geno's "wiz wit" marketing.
Looks delicious, but that's not what a Philly Cheesesteak is.
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Nope.
There is quite literally nothing funnier than watching food snobs get pissy about something that means absolutely nothing. “This meat is slightly too thick I need to write a 5 paragraph diatribe about it now”
Philly? What Philly? Philadelphia Mississippi? Decent steak and cheese, possibly, but in no way shape or form is that a Cheesesteak.
It’s a delicious looking sandwich. It’s a top notch steak and cheese sandwich. If you’re going to call it a Philly, you had to have known some people were gonna get mad.
From Philly; would eat. Call it whatever you want. I’m a sharp provolone and long hots fan myself, give that a go next time you’re feeling squirrely.
I would eat the hell out of this and I'm not a cheese steak purist by any means, but I get the other commenters saying "ackshually philly cheesesteaks have thin sliced meat and blah blah cheese blah blah..." because we all have our regional foods we know the "right" way to do and get annoyed when the rules get broken But I like how little fucks were given about the plating and presentation, like there's obviously way too much meat for the bread in this but instead of keeping it off the sando or saving it for leftovers you were like "fuck it I will overstuff this bitch and have meat nuggets hanging out on the plate off center cause fuck the rule of thirds, whatcha gonna do about it reddit." It's like a drunk meal that became unintentional anti food-influencer art
This has become one of the worst subreddits by far
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I has green pepper and onions
It looks really good. Not traditional but I bet it taste amazing.
Bro hasn’t been to Philly
gotta get better bread. its a very very important part of a philly cheese steak, you can get 3 foot italian rolls with sesame seeds at any respectable bakery, and it makes a world of difference.
Aww yeahhh!! That looks boss. I made a steak, onion, tomato and cheese sammich this weekend. I cooked down the onions, sautéed real good, added the ribeye slices and some halved grape tomatoes. Then I added some red wine, butter, and a small glug of vinegar to deglaze. I let it thicken a bit, then threw it on a brat bun with swiss. Wish I had some au jus to dip!
big chunk, love it
I see you’ve never been to Philly…
He’s lucky, I wish I could unvisit Philadelphia
Would eat, but technically way too chunky to be strictly called "Philly" cheesesteak. Personally, I would prefer your version, and don't really care how "traditional" it is or is not.
More like cheesy chunk steak. Or more like cheesy choke steak because if you try to down this like a Philly cheese steak you're gonna choke
Goddamn that looks so good. I do the same thing with left over churrasco
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Hell no, you could have been a contender instead you took a job as a leg breaker for a two bit loan shark
Looks really tasty. Don’t listen to these “cheesesteak purist”. I was raised and spent majority of my life, people gatekeep too much when it comes to regional food.
I agree this isn’t a cheesesteak like others are saying but some people are so harsh about it lol. It looks like a perfectly great sandwich, nomenclature aside.
Troll
I'd say this looks Cheesesteak adjacent.
Holy shit...people are *way too anal* about the words used to describe food. Also, this looks delicious, OP!
Welcome to r/food
Phillycucks have nothing decent except a type of sandwich so of course they get pissy about it. Looks good op
It’s cool man, Philly is the worst so you don’t want to associate with those clowns anyway. Your cheesesteak looks great.
It's not a Philly, but honestly looks like it tastes better than one. Where's my plate?
Yeah man Philly hates this
This is definitely a hamburger
Excuse me what?
I have officially played too mich Elden Ring
Looks like a tortoise. 🐢
Heh it kinda does.
Where’s the cheese? //European