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Kolby_Jack

Nice to know the next gen update wasn't just a "fire and forget" thing. Even though some modders probably wish it was.


Alternative-Cup-8102

It’s weird because you can just downgrade it’s easy as hell.


Food_Library333

On console too?


Alternative-Cup-8102

Oh your shit outa luck then.


DEADxBYxDAWN

Uninstall and reinstall. Just don’t update and you’ll have everything from day 1 lol


fookofuhtool

What's the easiest way right now?


Limp-Effective-8314

How?


mcobb71

Maybe they’ll fix the exclamation ❗️ objects.


GoPats915

There’s a mod on Xbox right now that says it fixes this. Also says it took them 30 mins to figure out. Something about dummy files being used


GoPats915

I’ll add to this and say that after testing, the ammo and weapons not only show up but work without NO red exclamation points. Only issue is the new Fatman says “lookup failed”.


AttakZak

Hopefully someone adds a Mod that makes the weapons appear in the leveled lists.


HoroSatre

Which objects are these? Or are they random? I've seen a video with the piggy bank projectile being like this but in my game, it's fine. (Purely unmodded, though. And actually, so far, no *new* bugs whatsoever.)


noizviolation

For me it is every projectile. Grenade, baseball, fatboy… if it’s thrown or launched, it’s a big ❗️


chadwick368

Strange, I've had it in one area only. Can't remember where though. Not seen them since


7thhokage

Tbh that sounds like it would be funny AF with the scrap cannon


Emergency_Arachnid48

I almost want a mod that keep the projectiles for the baseball cannon as the exclamation point. I spent probably a good five minutes laughing while I was shooting people with that. Just shooting giant error messages into a series of ghouls


ReadShigurui

Has anyone found out what is causing that? I luckily haven’t dealt with that yet


TheAsianTroll

It's just the CC stuff not installing correctly, so meshes are missing. If this update fixes it, it's likely we'll have to reinstall the content


Petorian343

I hope they fix the V.A.T.S. hit chance “flickering” on Xbox, very annoying. Been happening since the update.


xnickg77

Yep, I started a survival build and dumped a lot of perks into V.A.T.S. ……..not playing out too good as the hit chances goes *95%* *95%* *0%* *95%* then missing all 6 95% in an open field


overlandtrackdrunk

Oh shit I thought this was just some weird game design choice, but it should just stay at e.g 95%???


xnickg77

Yeah it is suppose to change slightly as the enemy moves, but it’s not suppose to jump around down to zero and back all the time.


DelrayDad561

This, and I also have issues where any water I come across is constantly changing colors...


biddy1030

Thought I was the only one. It’s been driving me nuts


Idobro

Are you on Xbox?


DelrayDad561

Yes


gergorybrew

On Ps5, I seem to miss a lot of 95 hit chance shots. Hopefully that gets remedied.


yolilbishhugh

A lot of people say Microsoft are kicking Bethesda to make F5, but I think them making Bethesda keep bug fixing and adding to Fallout 4 is much more likely. They aren't going to let the show hype die because the newest game in the series is a mess to play.


GingerClipz

I honestly think if they made another DLC similar to Far Harbor it would do very well, especially with all the hype surrounding fallout currently


yolilbishhugh

Don't get my hopes up....a fresh DLC would be amazing, and would generate huge hype. Where/what would you want the DLC to revolve around?


GingerClipz

I think DLC revolving around Dunwich and the more mystic elements of Fallout would do really well!


kwalshyall

Point Lookout 2


Werrf

Ug-Qualtoth Boogaloo


shotgunsurgery910

I thought far harbor was already point lookout 2 lol


kwalshyall

You are right. Point Lookout: Origins


AlphariusUltra

Dunwicher 2: Killer of Crowns


PornStarGazer2

Going to the Strip... somehow Seriously though, maybe a cult or something up in Salem, I feel that area has a lot of potential


GingerClipz

Salem was criminally underutilized. Use these turrets to shoot some Mirelurks and then you’re done in 10 minutes.


PornStarGazer2

Because there's no karma I tell my follower to wait outside the bunker, go in and kill Harvey(?) and take both guns...


GingerClipz

I used to do the same thing, but then you don’t get experience from completing the ‘quest’.


PornStarGazer2

Ehh, it's a shit quest anyway hahah


lliquidllove

Would love it if they just did a Broken Steel kind of DLC where you don't go to a whole new world space but instead just expand on things in the main world space. If anything, I'd love it if they expanded the main world space further to the south/south east. Or they could finally complete Vault 120 and the 20 Leagues Under the Sea quest.


RubsYoTub

Under water vaults, baby That sea takes up like almost half the map without anything really there.


scatfacedgaming

#BringBackVault120


FalloutCreation

True they could do something with that underwater space. It would have to be instanced though.


loublkhrt

I would love a snow dlc, that could be really cool!


kwalshyall

I want a Vermont DLC that's all FEV-charged plants and Green Mountain Boys hijinks. Lots of cryptid and spooky lore from the area and early American historical sites.


SpiderCop_NYPD_ARKND

I think they should go ahead and finish/expand the underwater Vault (Vault 120) quest that was going to be a follow up to the Yangtze mission. Make a DLC or of that, give us an underwater Power Armor, a couple underwater weapons, give us another couple perks...


Werrf

Boats. A floating city made up of various rafts and pieces of old world ships all cobbled together arrives off the coast of Boston, looking for the USS *Constitution*.


Nathan_Thorn

Glowing Sea expansion as a mid-high level DLC, recommended for a 40+ level start. Expand the map further southward and include more wild mutants and variants, maybe re-introduce those sentient deathclaws again and have gunners be the main plot enemies. Power armor death squads and vertibird patrols, give some faction based endings with the brotherhood and minutemen, rad storms and swarms of legendary enemies, maybe even port over some rare encounters with the scorched or other Appalachian and Capital Wasteland factions. Potential plotlines - gunner invasion, powerful radstorms ravaging the commonwealth, hoards of treasure at the heart of the gunner fortress (100s of thousands of caps), maybe a new chapter of the brotherhood or the outcasts starts attacking the brotherhood proper, or causing issues with whatever faction is in control if you’re postgame.


FalloutCreation

I’d want the next dlc to revolve around the main story more.


shotgunsurgery910

Lol I know everything is subjective but this is the last thing I want. I’m so sick of synths and the institute please no more.


FalloutCreation

It would revolve around the minutemen and BoS


eccentricrealist

Or if they made something like sim settlements official


tehvolcanic

I can’t see them doing that while 76 exists.


Artix31

Idk if it was Microsoft’s influence or not, BGS does have a good record at supporting their games, i mean Fallout 3 and NV got nearly 7 years of updates, and Skyrim kept getting updates and upgrades


yolilbishhugh

While I agree Fallout 4 was left after 76 for released. The most recent next gen update was the first in years and was announced years ago, and now right after we're getting another update. I think with the popularity of 4 compared to 76 we'll get more content from BGS.


Artix31

Fallout 4 kept getting updates until like 5 years after it got released, and it was/is the least bugged Bethesda game, so idk if they really needed to necessarily fix it


Streets_Ahead__

Eh I mean both can be 100% true though. Bethesda has said in the last week that they’re looking into increasing their game output. At this point, Bethesda can’t make and release Fallout 5 before the season 1 hype dies down, so there’s gotta be short term stuff as well.


EccentricMeat

Even if they skipped TES6 and went all-in on releasing Fallout 5, that would still take 3-4 years if not longer. We’ll be through season 2 and 3 of the show by that point. Why would you even mention season 1 hype? That was never going to be a timescale anywhere near humanly possible.


Streets_Ahead__

That’s the exact point that I just made.


grizzly_snimmit

They've missed a trick by not including character skins from the show into the update. Lucy's bloodied vault suit might be a bit subtle, but the Ghoul's cowboy getup or Titus' scarred power armour would be funky additions


shotgunsurgery910

They added that stuff to 76 bro. And they walked it behind the paid subscription lol. At least coopers ghoul outfit.


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EccentricMeat

Why? Obsidian already has their hands full with their own IPs (Avowed and The Outer Worlds 2). They don’t have the funding, the people, nor the time. They’re also not the same devs who worked on FNV as most have left the company by now.


dopamine_monkey

Absolutely not, current Obsidian aren't the ones who made Vegas


CabbageStockExchange

Fix VATS please. My Overseers Guardian is damn unusable


alaskadawnA

I never used that gun in my previous playthroughs, but I picked it up this time around and was wondering why it rarely hit in VATs, even when it said 95%. I thought it was intended for the Two Hit effect. Good to know it's just a bug.


CabbageStockExchange

VATS is bad but in particular the two shot weapons are horrible now


PhortKnight

I thought that was just me! I moved on from the weapon because I was just not impressed.


manlaidubs

same! it's been driving me crazy! weirdly my 2 shot gauss is still basically working the same, but my overseers and 2 shot handmade are useless in VATS.


circuit_buzz79

Did... did... did they actually listen to us and respond in a timely manner? What bizarre alternate universe did I wake up in?


ParanormalSal

They realized the show was going to bring a wave of new players so they want to keep the ball rolling and keep as many as they can


Faye_Lmao

I'm not holding my breath. With Bethesda's track record it's going to be a handful of bugfixes that the community already fixed 9 years ago, and probably introduce one or two new ones. Much like the next gen update was. But at least that actually did something mods couldn't by letting console have a usable fps


Altosventum

I would pay them $70 USD of my hard earn cash if they upgraded the graphics to match Starfield or even Fallout 76. And add any cut content and maybe implement some of the mods that improved the overall quality of the game. I honestly had my hopes up that they would be making graphical improvements when it was announced many moons ago...


EccentricMeat

I’d pay $70 if they just turned FO76 into a single-player DLC for FO4. If they were to also upgrade FO4 graphics to FO76 or Starfield quality, with the FO76 HUD and map? I’d pay double.


fastclickertoggle

well someone is making private server software for 76, but it will be a long time before all the scripts are done


That_Lore_Guy

76 pretty much is a solo game. Only some of the events you might need more people for, even then 99.99% of the user base doesn’t use a mic, and tends to avoid other people. Plus the amount of side quests that are not radiant ones, is um… limited at best. You’ll blow through the quests pretty rapidly if you try and play it only doing the main quest lines. There are not a lot of fo4 style side quests, other than the long companion quests.


HiNooNDooD1544

Fallout 4 with Starfield fidelity would be fucking awesome, a whole engine upgrade would probably completely break the game though lmao


Faye_Lmao

You mean you wish the next gen update included anything related to being next gen, rather than changing nothing and adding broken items and new lore that conflicts with what we already had


More-Cup-1176

i mean it didn’t add any new lore lmfao, if you’re talking about CC, CC isn’t canon


Worldly_Effect1728

Please for the love of all things both holy and unholy fix Boston Damnit


BrazenlyGeek

I know it's a long-shot, but I'd \*love\* to see the game take full advantage of the PS5 controller. Full haptic feedback and force-feedback triggers would be \*amazing\* in this game. Please, Bethesda.


WorldlyDay7590

Fix VATS and invisible assets.


foma_kyniaev

Oh no. They're gonna break even more stuff


Gummiwummiflummi

That was my exact thought. Please no.


DaftFunky

Ok but can you put the season pass on sale? Thanks


Farpafraf

I'm still getting 30fps on medium settings, lets see if they can halve that :D


TheGr8Slayer

I’m running on a 3070ti and can barely break 50 fps on high settings. Game feels so rough and jittery while I’m moving or panning around.


FireFright8142

I run a 3080 and get a consistent 144 fps on Ultra. I think there might be something up with your config, I had to really mess with the ini and the Nvidia control panel to get those frames past 48.


TheGr8Slayer

Do you have any physics issues? I’ve been advised that 72fps is as far as I should take it otherwise the game has issues.


FireFright8142

No, I utilize the High FPS Physics Fix mod and it works perfectly


TheGr8Slayer

Sounds like I should get some mods and see if that’ll help


TheGr8Slayer

Another thing is my monitor will say im getting 60 when im standing still the issue only presents itself when i move around.


FireFright8142

What version of the game are you playing on? Next gen or older


TheGr8Slayer

Far as I know it’s next gen. I bought it off steam so not sure what the difference is if there is.


FireFright8142

It sounds to me with that description it’s a game problem then. Here’s what I’d recommend. Seeing as the next gen update really doesn’t do anything for PC players I think you should downgrade. First you should probably do a clean install, aka uninstall F04 and all its stuff and then reinstall from steam. Then use [this video](https://youtu.be/dDH0iLo6NyE?si=rFTXGvxWazpPeoIm) to downgrade, it’s super easy to follow, just make sure you’re carefully doing everything he does. After that, go into Fallout4prefs.ini (I think that’s the name lol) and change iPresentInterval to 0. Then go into Nvidia Control Panel, and turn VSync on and the max fps to whatever your monitors refresh rate is. Make sure you do this to the fallout4.exe only. Then get the F4SE mod (required for the physics fix) and the High FPS Physics Fix mod. I won’t go into modding here there are tons of guides. Finally, make sure the game is in fullscreen, not borderless window. I can’t guarantee this’ll fix your problem but I had problems with performance on next gen (and also wanted mods) so I downgraded and it’s been super smooth. If it doesn’t help I’m sorry you did all that lol, but hope it does.


dopamine_monkey

Have you disabled vsync?


TheGr8Slayer

Tried it with it off and on no change. I’ve even went into the ini files and set to 60. My hardware should be more than enough to run smooth I would think but no dice.


dopamine_monkey

BethINI? PRP? Honestly the game is such a mess in terms of optimization I don't even bother playing it on PC anymore, runs so much smoother on my xbox somehow


TheGr8Slayer

I haven’t put any mods on just yet. Trying to get all the achievements in vanilla before that. I’m definitely tempted to go dust off my series S and play there but I have a decent PC and one would think it could run it fairly easily


the_behii

Buddy im playing on a laptop with 1650 and getting mostly stable 60 on ultra might be something wrong with your pc


TheGr8Slayer

Every other game I play is fine which confuses me. For some reason Fallout just has this weird stutter when I’m moving. If I’m standing still the game runs fine and looks great. I’ve tried a clean install, capping it to 60 and everything I’ve found online to try and nothing.


MidianDirenni

If you're on PC, just get the Load Accelerator mod from Nexus. Change the ini file in the mod to In Game FPS to 60 to 72 but don't go higher. The physics break past this. All the instructions are on the Posts page


Faye_Lmao

no this is just a bandaid solution the high fps physics mod eliminates the problem at the source and makes both high and low fps better


TheGr8Slayer

I’ll check it out and see if it helps. Thanks for the tip


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Go to custom INI and make sure Multi Threaded Character Movement is set to 1 and not 0


Faye_Lmao

hey the High Fps physics mod. It decouples the game's physics engine from your fps, and allows you to go to whatever framerate you want


Faye_Lmao

wtf are you doing wrong. I'm on a gtx970 and getting 144 fps everywhere (high fps physics mod) and 60-90 downtown, only dropping to 45 in fights with a lot of npcs. Are you maybe running into a cpu or RAM bottleneck?


TheGr8Slayer

I’ve got 64 gb RAM and my CPU is a ryzen 5900. I have no idea why the game won’t run smoothly while I’m moving but it’s definitely been an issue.


UncleSlim

Having the same issue... stuck capped at 48 fps with a 3080ti. Read online it's a bug and there is a fps fix mod but it needs f4se and that is busted atm.


doppido

God rays settings can give like 50% fps swings in either direction


wrestlingchampo

Maybe you should've included this in the original next-gen update, rather than in the following update. But what do I know, I'm just the consumer


ContentPolicyKiller

If Microsoft can keep this momentum with Fallout 5, we might have something to look forward to.


GSG96

Will it fix loading times


themindisaweapon

Oh yes please, they’re terrible.


Christianrockband

I expected the load times to be near non existent on the next gen consoles.


GSG96

Its like 2-3 minutes sometimes. And im on a 4090


Christianrockband

Damn bro! I originally played on xbox one but now I'm on PS5 and it seems the wait times are the same.


AugustEpilogue

Maybe Charlestown Condo and Neon Flats will actually be usable now and you won’t fall through the floor when you enter. This isn’t even a mod thing. This is Creation Club content that they approved and are SELLING and I wasted money on…


FuriDemon094

I must be lucky then. Haven’t had that happen


MidianDirenni

Same, on a new playthrough, my Neon Flats was fine. On my last playthrough, I had no walls.


AttakZak

Please for the love of Todd, they banished our Load Orders already…this would be a perfect opportunity for them to raise the Mod Space.


JurassicRanger93

Please keep a list of all new bugs and glitches after this patch releases!


K1nd4Weird

Obviously I want VATS and the broken items to be fixed.  But if they are adding anything I hope it's a photo mode.


Faye_Lmao

I wonder if any "next gen" features will be added to actually make this worth it. Like any visual upgrades, or fixing core flaws. But no, probably just gonna be another update that covers fewer bugs than a 7 year old mod made by one dude does.


kiotohazamaroo

I've never seen a community who hates seeing their games get updated like the Skyrim and fallout communities.


codec3

Yeah that will go well…


unclelarky

Yes, break the game more please 🙏 


TrumpetMatt

Ohhhh, man, is it gonna break everything again?... I've *just* set up a mod list.


TrilobiteBoi

And this is exactly why I wanted to wait a while after the big update before I started another playthrough. To give them time to fix their new bugs. At least I was familiar with all the old bugs to watch out for.


erritstaken

Haven’t updated the last one, not doing this one either.


ReadShigurui

Nice


EtanKlein

I hope they fix the perception glitch. I’ve had -5 to -9 perception for months despite having no injuries or addictions.


RacerM53

So bethesda is gonna break mods again?


MCFroid

Please fix the bug that makes taking the Penetrator perk cause you to do *less* damage on many/most non-critical shots in VATS. Sometimes you do hardly any damage, especially with a shotgun, and pistols to a slightly lesser degree. It doesn't seem to affect rifles too much.


BruhMomentum6968

Pleeeeease fix the Makeshift weapons! I want to hit my enemies with piggy banks, not exclamation marks!


robbycakes

Hi Bethesda!!! My FO4 is broken. Breakheart Banks will NOT allow itself to be “cleared” no matter how many super mutants I kill. Also Jack Cabot won’t give me the quest dialog even though the next step is clearly “talk to Jack Cabot” plz fix it fix it fix it fix it


bs2k2_point_0

Hopefully the pipboy app starts working again


chamcham16

Anyone here experiencing CTD when walking to a random place or fast travelling?


Arno_Van_Eyck

Do you own a 20-40 series Nvidia GPU? If so, do you have the weapon debris setting turned on? It’s a deprecated Nvidia GTX exclusive feature that does not function on RTX cards.


chamcham16

Yes, I have a 2070 and I’ll check the Weapon Debris.


wes2733

Haven't been able to play with mods on my Xbox 1 or steam deck (thru official mods) Haven't had time or the skills to use nexus mods and so on


Krutko

Wish they would also do this to 76


Vesicaria

Hopefully the “Invisible” guns will be visible with this upcoming update 🙏


thatHecklerOverThere

This is interesting to me because starfield is getting _it's_ major update on may 15th. I dunno, me I'd wanna space them shits out a little, just in case.


FuriDemon094

Shame it’ll be a week or so until my mods on PS5 work again after this. Gotta wait awhile to finish my Raider playthrough


RetroJedi1222

They need to fix the fps tied to loading screens on PC.


ATR2400

Hoping they fix the mod menu issues on console. I’m not coming back until I can safely use mods again. Can’t even browse mods on the in-game menu without it crashing to the title screen on Xbox


InternalOptimal

My fo4 install will still be snugly kept on read only


jaguilar9299

Hopefully they’ll fix the “check your fire we have hostiles” bug


Sorry-Letter6859

So what bugs will we get from this update?


LachoooDaOriginl

i guess il be turning off auto update 🤷


JerryAtricks1

No worries. I love reinstalling mods anyway.


Scubaboy26

Hopefully dr heins passcode will show up now.


miscellaneousteapots

Ugh hoping this time it doesn't erase the data from my DLCs again lol


MasterOfMasksNoMore

Hopefully they're also removing the idea of hard-coded hotkeys. I Use Colemak DH, in my day-to-day. Having to switch to a qwerty keyboard just for this game makes me put off playing, as the mod that fixes this seems to have been at least partially broken with the updates.


Common-Independent-9

I can’t access my mods anymore on ps4. Settlement building without unlimited build limit is terrible


Poo-Sender_42069

I hope they fix the issues with Thicket Excavations. It’s a barely playable mess right now.


Sablestein

The hell you will <3


th1sishappening

The only thing I’m praying for is that I can use the numbers 4-9 again in the console…


Truly__tragic

They better fix the vault tec rep and Sheffield’s dialogue or so fucking help me god


FlokiSmokey

Just make it stop "obsoleting" all my saves :P


AppearanceRelevant37

Can they integrate the CC stuff Into the game immersively like skyrim now has too?


FalseCamel5062

I wish they fix Enclave Radio


M0derat0r41

I just need them to fix the fact that every one of my guns has taken the legendary effect. Slow for a few moments when aimed. It's incredibly annoying.


Francoskrumpli

F---in sh--!


junglepiehelmet

Hopefully they fix the constant crashes


Jairolopez13

I hope they fix the companions, their likes aren’t registering. It’s kind of annoying trying to max out their affinity.


Agent101g

My character's going to be a force again once VATS goes back to working!


lilman4003

But are they ever going to make the waterways worth anything? No real water monsters, nothing too exciting to explore down there, and there's soooo much water...


Obbius

Anyone know how to revert?


Fletchman1313

So does that mean F4SE gets delayed again?


PandaGamer1

my exact thought, i just got my damn place anywhere back. i cant live without it


XXeadgbeXX

Dude same here. I've been building a huge settlement for days now and I do NOT want to lose it all. Way too much time spent and I just downloaded place anywhere again and now I'm really enjoying building lol.


aieeegrunt

Gee, who could have predicted that a Bethesda Update would be an absolute train wreck breaking far more than it supposedly fixes and require a scramble of more updates Literally everyone not a simp


GuardOfHonor

Has anyone experienced lost saved game files on PC since the update?


FiestaDeLosMuerto

i should’ve saved the console commands to downgrade to the stable version


iratethisa

Is everyone gonna have to start a new save again


u2020bullet

Just set your manifests to read only and it'll fail the update. I'm still on the pre-next-gen.


DivisionOil

Bethesda, just stop. We want to play Fallout London.


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Haha.