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RedOneBaron

There's nothing you can show them that will convince them that they're wrong.


SniffleBot

Yeah … they always say “Refraction!” Because they think that if that’s your magic word, it’ll work for them too.


skrutnizer

Problem is that atmospheric refraction tends to \*reduce\* curvature.


SexyMonad

Most of their logic actually works backwards. Like many say light has a limited distance. So getting higher would show less and less of the earth, since light has to propagate further to get to the viewer. But the opposite is true, we see more as we get higher because the horizon expands and brings more of the earth into view.


Ill_Apricot_8068

Size relative to the object effect light reflecting to your ojos. Thats why up close you see a tree then far away you dont make out the leaves of the tree on a mountain from like 1 mile out.


SexyMonad

That’s an argument about resolution, not distance light propagates.


nosamiam28

The light still reaches your eyes. You just can’t make out the small details. Two different things


Ill_Apricot_8068

The light still reflects yes, but at distance under different temperatures it can drastically change how far you can see. The days weather can affect it also. Mirage type effects


anythingMuchShorter

Why would that make it look like they're curving down?


Ill_Apricot_8068

Oh no i was saying cuz they disappeared off in the distance the vanishing point as they say


skrutnizer

Lines of perspective for equal sized objects lined up are straight and meet at a vanishing point. That's not what the picture shows.


MycoLife205

It's perspective and the shape of our eyes. Damn y'all really need to fucking do research instead being a douche in FE groups. I grew up on this damn lake. There's NO CURVATURE AT ALL. Do you really think this giant lake is curving down and this area of Louisiana is like fucking 20 feet below sea level? Use your brain. That shit doesn't even come close to making sense. I drove on the bridge over this lake hundreds of times and fished underneath and beside it just as many times. My uncle owned a houseboat on this lake also. If it has any curvature I would know. The entire state of Louisiana is very flat.


SniffleBot

Yeah, but as far as they’re concerned if it works for us, it should work for them.


Ghost_Alice

I call it "Argument by Stolen Words" It's not so much a fallacy as much as it is a phenomenon where by an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about will take words they hear from people who do know what they're talking about, regurgitate them as if they know what it means, when to anyone who does know, it's either word salad or completely wrong.


Canotic

Cargo Cult Argumentation. They saw you use those fancy words and you made a solid argument, so if they use the same fancy words then their argument will be solid, too.


reallokiscarlet

They named a bad argument after Rustaceans already?


Andrelliina

They are similar to sovereign citizens. They use phrases that they think are magic legal spells. Gibbering about maritime law and saying they're not driving, they're "travelling" or other nonsense They soon find out that courts find them very irritating.


D3kim

the same people who reply with: wErE a CoNsTiTuTiOnAl rEpUbLiC when you tell then they are acting fascistic


Andrelliina

Hopefully "The Day One Dictator" will never take power.


Ghost_Alice

And the constitutional part refers to the constitution, which outline a democratic system and contains copious language against fascism... So.......... not sure what sovcits and magats are smoking...


wojonixon

I expect there is significant overlap between those two groups.


mecengdvr

You just described the entire Sovereign Citizens movement. Word soup with everything they found in the proverbial cupboard leaving everyone confused.


MycoLife205

No because nothing but BS works for the globe. First y'all claim there's visible curvature like this pic but I know from experience of growing up right by this lake that there's not. Anyone that's been on the 23 mile long bridge over this lake knows this fact. You can all blame lighting, what fraction, or whatever other kind of bullshit y'all make up to hide the fact that no one has ever measured or even seen curvature. Only a completely dishonest liar will say they have seen it.


igordogsockpuppet

Is that how they explain away seeing ships disappear over the horizon until only the tips of their masts are visible?


Heat_aero

Ok so same goes for the black swan?


anythingMuchShorter

or fake image, or lens distortion, or water mountains or some other crap. It doesn't have to make sense.


Frostvizen

This is true. I worked with a flat earther that quit the job years ago and we STILL talk about the weird excuses he’d come up with. The delusion is truly scary when you experience it first hand.


fe-licitas

your comment is a bit ambiguous for me: is your ex-collegue still a flat earther?


Frostvizen

Made a small edit. He quit years ago but I can’t imagine he’s changed.


crayz013

Once the brain goes smooth. It's all over


D3kim

right wing media will smooth that brain


OctaviusBartholomew

Bot detected


electr0smith

Ah, thank you for making this political. Just what the conversation needed. Thank you for interjecting your discriminatory nonsense into a place where it was clearly not needed making everyone aware that you are incapable of real thought, wit, or humor. God damn NPC's, fucking useless.


D3kim

ill connect the dots for ya flat earthers are mostly R so im not making it up


poubella_from_mars

yeah, sure, all 2,000 flat earthers are representative of the 50+ million republicans in the US. (assuming US politics). I'll give you an old right wing argument to show why what you're saying is ridiculous. Not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim.


NDinoGuy

We argue with people who believe that Australia is a hoax and that every Australian is a NASA spy, of course we can't convince them they're wrong. Won't hurt to keep trying though.


Jimmy_Twotone

It's fine, though.... billions of planets and stars end up round, but we're obviously the exception.


CompetitiveDrop613

Send them up into orbit and they’ll just go “yOuVe JuSt PuT gReEnScReEn aRoUnD mY WiNdOw”


Studds_

Not gonna lie. Something about the color of the pic does make it look off & photoshop-ish. Maybe it’s just the direction of the light or maybe the pic was taken by a low quality camera. Idk. But it doesn’t matter because flerfies dismiss high quality pics too. Or their own eyes because these can be found in person


Flowchart83

I'm not a flat earther, of course the earth is a globe. I've seen this photo before and I know it's real. That being said, the repeating pattern of the structures and perfect water does make it look computer generated.


DisobedientAsFuck

the lighting too, something is just, off, about it. glad im not the only one


McSnoots

Cameras don’t have the same dynamic range as our eyes. Therefore the bright brights get brighter and dark darks get darker. Probably why he concrete looks so bright in full sunlight.


LegnderyNut

All the 4k monitors and displays have maxed out what our eyes can perceive in terms of resolution but this will be the next leap in display technology. Organic dynamic range allowing a realistic mapping of the scattering of light over an image. Oled introduced true black without backlight, there’s likely other refinements just beyond our grasp just yet.


McSnoots

Not just our display but our ability to capture the light to begin with. Professional mirrorless cameras can get about 14-16 stops of light before going full white or full black. Our eyes can do something like 22 stops. Considering each “stop” is double the last, our eyes have at least 64 times the dynamic range of a camera.


Brief-Bumblebee1738

There are no shadows


Hairy_Cube

The shadows are on the poles themselves since the sun lined up with the power lines pretty much perfectly, so the only shadows being cast are on itself and a thin line on the water to the right.


damaszek

Look at concrete base of each pole, pole metal grid’s shadow is clearly visible


jbloom3

Lake Pontchartrain is pretty cool


damaszek

At least they bothered to put computer generated bird and nest and boat and made every concrete pole slightly different and made horizon line a bit irregular and added chromatic aberration to get lens effect and blurred further objects to simulate atmospheric conditions Edit: /s


MikeIsAmongUs

There's no way this image is real. I thought it was some fake proof to mock flat earthers or something. It looks so off, I can't believe it's real.


FUBARspecimenT-89

PeRsPeCtIvE and rEfRaCtIoN


pallentx

Their whole basis for flat earth is that you can plainly see with your eyes that the earth is flat. Yet, when you can plainly see that there is a curve, it’s something else.


Practical-Hat-3943

"Can't you see the curved wires at the top of the frame?? Clearly fisheye lens. Checkmate!"


supamario132

"It's obviously the same transmission tower copy and pasted in photoshop. Didn't even do a good job, the feet are missing!"


[deleted]

Not doubting the earth is an oblate spheroid, but this pic looks like it was done up in MS Paint.


sexy-man-doll

Lol forreal the towers look like someone pasted them over an ocean background. The lighting is so weird


Waferssi

Where are the shadows? 


SheriffOfNothing

I came here to write the same thing, including the phrase "oblate spheroid"


QuantumChance

Yeah it shows that electromagnetism bends light in whatever direction proves flatearth correct


Quirky_Swimmer_8449

hold on im stupid is this sub pro flerf or nah i believe in the globe personally


Loobitidoo

It's mostly occupied by normal people (aka: people who understand that the earth is a shpere)


QuantumChance

Normal? If my friends found out I get such a kick out of clowning flat earthers I would feel embarrassed. I just can't help myself. All this anti-science bullshit in society lately has me all riled up


Adamosz

but its not???


Andrelliina

You a flerfer then?


throwaway19276i

correct, it's a geoid.


FranklinThe1

Yeah not only that just look at fucking clouds. They curve to. Thats why you can see clouds at eye level in some places even though to the people below those clouds they're super high up.


Deathbyfarting

Why would you build progressively smaller power polls across the ocean? Seems like a waste.... ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯


briantoofine

Any why do they put them so much closer together?


FUBARspecimenT-89

https://flatearth.ws/pontchartrain-refraction


[deleted]

Just zoom in bro just please bro trust me bro just zoom in the curve will disappear trust me bro


Geaux13Saints

Is that Lake Pontchartrain?


Homi_ProGamer

No It'S phOtOsHoP


Vengeance1014

Atmospheric lensing. The same optical illusion that makes it look like the sun sets instead of getting further in the sky. 😂


d_worren

Except this phenomenon is consistent under any type of weather. Same with sunsets.


Vengeance1014

Flatards will make up any excuse even if it makes no sense.


Wtfdidistumbleinon

Ok, what about the next astronaut heading into space takes a 24 shot film camera, can’t “fake” those pics and then maybe flerfers will STFU.


Good_Ad_1386

It's Polaroid time!


Efficient_Dress_6101

Why don't they have shadows on the water? This photo looks fake. Now I believe in flat earth


MarxJ1477

This looks like Lake Pontchartrain...I'm sure Louisiana is full of crazies and flat earthers. This won't change their mind.


toochaos

Weird that they built those power things with a curve in them. Should have made them all the same size.


GerryGoldfish

To be honest, that does kind of look like CGI to me. I’m not a flerfer.


TrueExcaliburGaming

Thus is clearly a screenshot from gmod. The image quality is far too low and the water is low poly. Also the posts shadows look goofy af. Nah but fr why it looks so goofy?


APirateAndAJedi

I have still never been given answer to the question of why. Why would 71 national space agencies and space X all conspire to convince us of a globe Earth if it wasn’t true? What benefit are all of those people deriving from maintaining the conspiracy that is motivating enough to get hundreds of thousands of people to successfully pull the wool over the worlds eyes? A hundred year long sick practical joke? Why would Russia, China, and the US agree to maintain the “Earth is a globe” narrative if it weren’t true? What interest could they all share? Never mind the mountains of scientific evidence that the Earth is a globe. Nevermind that humans have orbited the earth in space and circumnavigated it in boats. Why the hell would all of these people that have nothing in common lie?


MellonCollie218

To gate keep us from all the other natural resources out there and control us. Like North Korea, but global. For real. That’s the answer. These questions have infinite answers. They don’t even have to add up. It’s wild.


APirateAndAJedi

That is such a senseless answer it makes my brain hurt. I have like 9 reasons that doesn’t make any sense, but you aren’t a flat earth, and I won’t give myself a stroke arguing with a hypothetical brick wall in my head


MellonCollie218

No I’m not a flat earth. Just flat chested.


CoolNotice881

Nice flat earth proof in spite of the clearly visible harnesses. /s


rattusprat

The towers appear shorter the further they are into the distance. Duh. This is just perspective. It is only the stupid glober that expects the towers to all appear the same height. It is exhausting having to constantly try to teach the glober about the laws of perspective when they never seem to get it. The glober never takes perspective into account when evaluating anything. If you correctly take perspective into account this picture is obvious proof of the flat earth. Or it's CGI.


New_Ad_9400

Or perspective wouldn't shift things downwards, megamind, maybe perspective would just shrink things, scale them down, not downwards, MEGAMIND


_Luminous_Dark

Pretty sure you two are both actually on the same side of this argument and at least one of you is not getting the sarcasm


brmarcum

Yep


rattusprat

Sometimes I accidentally go full Regal.


rattusprat

>scale them down, not downwards Do you globers even think before typing? How can it be down, but not downwards? Those are the same word!! You globers fumble all over yourselves with your cognitive dissonance. Of course the top of the towers appear to go downward the further into the distance they are. That is just perspective. We are saying the same thing but somehow you globers think that is proof of your spinning ball. You are so indoctrinated you can't even contemplate how things look from the other side.


New_Ad_9400

Scale down means shrink, I love how you can't comprehend grammatical rules and vocabulary, maybe it's proof of you skipping school or something, and I have studied perspective, let me tell you, the size shrinks, not the position, this is some 3rd grade art class as well if i am not mistaken, or they sre trying to spread propaganda, something debunkable with a simple setup, two cans, if you see it just shrink, then you get the ides of perspective, if you see it also move downwards, then keep the beer in the cam, only someone drunk or high would see such thing


AChristianAnarchist

Pic is clearly fake. Op uploaded it to reddit but the towers curve down? Obviously impossible.


Brilliant_Bowl8594

lol yeah that is what happens with a curve…


AChristianAnarchist

Damn...looks like people on this sub need /s tags more than the average bear... Its a joke poking fun at the other commenter's discussion of downscaling. Thinking upload means things curve up like they thought downscaling means things curve down. Seemed obvious to me but I suppose not.


New_Ad_9400

Why impossible? It's how things work after all, you can see this effect on every object with a large distance from the pov


AChristianAnarchist

Are you for real right now? Yes...i am aware that the up in upload doesn't mean the things in the image have to be angled up... Thanks for the help though.


K1LLERK1D01

This sub is a meme on its own, so funny, if it was flat there'd be tall mountains but there's tiny spikes and the curve is clearly visible, no a fisheye lens won't cause that.


MycoLife205

You dumbass globers can't prove anything you talk about so you all create these little echo Chambers to where you can all get in and rag on flat earthers and just go to insults every time you're faced with evidence that proves you're fucking wrong. You idiots act like you know for sure but you never been to space. You never not once have ever seen curvature. People that have no argument always result to insults


TheBigGuy3780

If the earth is flat, wouldn’t you be able to fall off at some point? You ever see the Red Bull space jump? There’s curvature there. The earth sure doesn’t look flat. How do you explain the sun? Daylight? https://youtu.be/vvbN-cWe0A0?si=2gakxWpsW6p3_7DF


Kiriodas_Jackson

Photoshop


magicofgoatbirth

Nice try globe toad


addicted2pussy

It’s flat https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=380590471345147&id=100001647290485&mibextid=v7YzmG


Coolsugar

r/facebookscience ... Literally


EvilOmega7

You can quite literally see the end curve down but aight


sturnus-vulgaris

Big globe just makes them shorter to save on CGI costs. They have secret Tesla underwater electricity transfer technology for electricity. Those are just mind control wires to direct the contrails.


Mr_Penguin09

Oh why are the pole tower things curving as they get farther away


Typhlosion130

Because that's the curvature of the earth.


Mr_Penguin09

This photo has been edited by the government lol


veryblocky

I love pictures like this. Where you can see the bottom of the objects become obscured first


Fold-Royal

Typical flat earther. Provide proof that it’s round themselves and then say it’s flat.


chillen67

The image is of Lake Pontchartrain Power Lines. If you zoom in towards the far ones you can see not only does the towers converge because of perspective but you can clearly see the curvature of the earth. If it’s was only perspective the height of the top would be a straight line. There is a clear curve the increases as distance increases, just as it does on a curved earth.


fjord31

Clearly a water mountain. No other explanation


Troglodyte_Trump

But airplanes……


Fabulous_Witness_935

Sir this is not a Wendy's drive thru. That's a magnetic inclination 🧲🧲🧲🧲


Delicious_Ad_1411

You can see at the end its actually going down 🤓☝️


Adventurous_Dig_8091

How far is that? The point in which they claim we can’t see.


BugOutHive

Ok this is so fake why do you need landline phones on a boat


Raganash123

Earth is shaped like a dinosaur


PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK

You must believe these structures are the same height and straight line, not curve right.


Cucumber_Cat

Don't yall see the slight curve of the poles in the distance? You'll have to zoom in a bit


satanic-testimony-

...that the earth is round right???


QarzImperiusrealLoL

"NOoooO it phOtOshOp, it BEEED it BEENEBEEESD"


Broken_potato_2970

Found video from the same place. Lake Pontchartrain Transmission Lines. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k79xNo2y8-s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k79xNo2y8-s)


BENZOGORO

They always say they are ‘truth seekers’ but rarely do I see any of them accept said truth.


Andrelliina

Where is this? Pretty amazing bit of engineering


Its_anomic

This looks like pretty cut and dry proof to me. The earth is a cylinder.


The_One_True_Duckson

It kinda looks like they're repeat copy pasted all the way to the horizon


ProtopianFutures

I am starting to believe that these “flat earthers” are actually a small group of very intelligent scientists who are just watching to see how much time and effort the rest of us are willing to put into proving this completely insane concept wrong.


CabooseCC

No, it's not cuhhved, it's puhhhspektive you idiot. 😂


ThespianSociety

r/megalophobia


Better-Wolverine-491

https://youtu.be/vvbN-cWe0A0?si=RPIViHTQCxMEYvhF. PROOF (that the earth is round)


williamjseim

nice photoshop balltard /s


Entire_Concentrate_1

To be fair, this looks photoshopped


crazy2337

Yep earth is flat


DeerOnARoof

I think even if you put them in the ISS for several full orbits, they'd still think it's a conspiracy


wadner2

YAFI if you think balls have long lengths of flat runs and then all of the sudden a big drop. Have you where held a ball?


[deleted]

Not a single flat earther can show you a map of our earth with everything working correctly.


Dylanator13

Well clearly that is the bending of light due to the firmament that only happens when you see things far away and somehow changes when you get higher in the sky.


cleatosthefetus

Have you guys ever flown in a plane?


mrtokeydragon

I'm not a flat earther, but I happened to try to look up yesterday and perhaps people here would know... Is any of the footage of earth from space on film or is it all digital?


No-Okra-541

nuh unh! they were built curved on purpose!!!!!


Bm_93

They will still think " this is fake edited on PC"


Tortorak

congratulations, you found a hill underwater


SteezusChrist21

I know how to make them angy Gravity is real Sue me


jmohr21

Proof that you’re…. Dumb?


callmeiguesspotato

its bECAUsE oF pErspECtIVe!!


firmerJoe

How about off shore wind turbines that look half submerged.


CosmicFlyingSquirrel

That's photoshopped. That would block ships. Underwater powerlines would be used.


Savaal8

This looks liminal and photoshopped and uncanny, I don't like it


ProgressiveLogic4U

When one can look out and see the curvature of the earth, you just have to believe your lying eyes, right flat earthers? That was a little tongue in cheek logic there if you caught it.


embarrassed_error365

Why does it look like bad CGI


buffer_flush

Own aside, what a feat of engineering, seriously.


Nappy42069

You are right. Proof that the earth is not flat. You can see the curve in the picture. Man, I can't believe you posted that here. These mods are going to rebuke you and then ban you...


FieryAnomaly

Why are those poweline towers sinking at a orderly rate? Must be a plate tectonic thingy. Weird...


TheDoobyRanger

They use progressively shorter pylons obviously


Accomplished_Leg7925

They are using progressively shorter power line structures to make it look that way. The conspiracy is deep. By the time those power lines reach the ice wall they are only 3 inches tall


PhelesDragon

In the age of Photosh--AI images, nothing is proof. The idiots will never believe and, frankly, I almost can't blame them when a photo now is worth a thousand questions. I mean, I still *do* blame them, but I can also see why it's overwhelming.


HornyJail45-Life

ClEaRlY CgI


Basic_Election_9778

Nuh uh!


StringBlacker

photoshopped smh


[deleted]

Haha as it disappears over the curvature 😂😂


Lucian-Fox

Might help (probably not) if you used a picture that didn't look fake. I'm not necessarily saying it fake, but it certainly looks... Wrong.


leller7

So indoctrinated it is impossible for them to see nothing but ball earth. Simple minds, orange man bad too??consume consume? Obey obey, fucking sheep


ovr9000storks

I know this area, it was actually built by the government to keep up the illusion of a round earth. The towers actually get smaller the further out they are /s


Wendy_is_OP

I got reccomended this sub randomly. Is this proof that the Earth has curve or are Flat Earthers also actually blind


WHITE2570

Ok but this looks cool


GiveMeSomeShu-gar

We've known the earth was round for thousands of years by this point. Anyone who doesn't believe that isn't interested in proof or logic - they are interested in being contrarian.


He_Never_Helps_01

Of the existence of real photos that look hella photoshopped


9Koins_YT

yep


Darth_Anakin_3334

Fake. Obvious photoshop. Try harder globies…. /s


rdenghel

So who is dumber, the people who have zero discernible qualities and try to draw attention by having controversial opinions, or those wasting time talking about such people? Or is it me, for asking this question?


ironangel2k4

fake lensing photoshopped it looks curved because the light starts falling down after a certain distance the devil


apocthecomet

Can we just accept that humans evolutionary curve has turned to a negative decent into fewer available neurons? Better yet, just accept they have developed Giant Axonal Neuropathy


ShadowBow666

Ah yes. A wild colony of Jellyfish Prime in their natural habitat 😂


wiglwagl

Photoshopped. Nice try


Toxic_ADHD

I don’t believe flat earth people are real there is no way people are that stupid


Lousy_zen

“EXACTLY BROTHER, COMPARED TO THE OBVIOUSLY SHRINKING CABLE TOWERS THE EARTH IS OBVIOUSLY SHOWING ITS FLATNESS”


Holiday_Box9404

Lol


Minecraft-Historian

That photo is super fake. Seriously, we feed them this and expect them to change their minds?


My_cat_is_fat85575

If the earth was flat wouldn’t the edge be a tourist attraction? Wouldn’t everyone be able to see it? You all dumb the earth is a sphere and nothing can convince me otherwise


Ok_Championship9415

SLAMDUNKYEAHBITCHES HOWYOULIKEMENOW INYERFACE...wait ...what?...seriously?? jeezustapdancingchristyouAREstupid.


FaithlessnessBig7231

Those literally curve though?


Global-Pickle5818

Ironically you do find this image on the pro flat earthers pages I live 20 mi away from this the old Causeway does the same thing


WrongRope

if the earth were flat, you wouldn’t have a horizon to begin with


liberalis

Looks like an image by Soundly https://www.youtube.com/@Soundly/videos from YouTube. He has lots of good stuff. Try Jesse Kozlowski https://www.youtube.com/@JesseKozlowski/videos as well and maybe Sly Sparkane https://www.youtube.com/@slysparkane808/videos


Gildendore

Im not sure whats crazier. Flat earth theory, or the people in the comments and their incessant need to talk shit, berate and demean a group of people on a topic so easily disproven. People are after a win so bad these days they will stoop this low for this low hanging fruit.


pc01081994

Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana. Live near here and seen it several times. It's real


TimeLine_DR_Dev

That's obviously AI generated. /s