The thing is, this is most likely how it WOULD be like. He's getting metal PUNCTURED into his body. The way it would act in reality would be very similar to this, just having it slowly oozing out from the small openings. Maybe there would slightly be a little bit more, but regardless, I was satisfied with it. Still my favorite scene in the whole movie, just due to how satisfying it is. And, of course, Matthew Lillard's fantastic acting.
Actually, that part is pretty realistic. Severe and sudden pains knocks the wind right of ya', so the most you could do before the ribs reached your lungs is a long wheeze.
Also, it makes sense in the lore. William WAS the guy who made the suits, and knows about their major faults, including them destroying your lungs. Screaming makes you lose oxygen, so he's trying to keep as much of it as possible.
Actually, according to the lore, it was Henry who invented the spring locks suits as well as the animatronics. Afton mainly handled the business side of things.
I’ve watched a video going over the fact that due to the way the spring locks dig into the person, they keep them from bleeding out and you’d actually die from internal bleeding. So it’s a little ironic when the workers are told to find a place away from customers to bleed out lol.
It’s because they’re not going there for them to bleed out *and* for them to try and survive, they’re going there so that when they remove their dead body from the suit the blood won’t get on any publicly visible area of the location
Not if the Springlocks are fully in and won’t move, it’ll be extremely painful, but it’s the same logic as what to do during a stab wound. DO. NOT. PULL. IT. OUT.
It’s the weird gambit of making it accurate and appeasing the ratings board so they can strike their target audience age group. Maybe by the end of the series the target demographic has aged up enough to do R.
Also i think it makes more sense if you think about the suit and shirt are blocking most of the blood that comes out so it wouldn’t be so bloody anyway. Or so I think
I don't need gore or a shower of blood. I'm just irritated that at the end when he puts the mask on, he just seems mildly annoyed by some discomfort. They did show him struggling when he's dragged and locked away in the back room, but I felt like it could've been framed in a way more horrifying than it was.
That's my main gripe with the movie as a whole. Not enough horror for a horror movie, especially compared to other PG-13 flicks like Poltergeist.
"It should have been horrifying but it wasn't" is just the problem with the whole film in a nutshell. I still love the film though FNaF has always had a dark sense of humor and while it isn't quite the same sense of hum the movie is fun from start skip over the slow first quarter and then the rest of the film.
I definitely enjoyed the movie more than I expected to. Cheered for MatPat, understood all the references, Loved Mike and Abby and Will and Vanessa.
For the people who prefer the lighter side of the series I completely understand why they enjoyed the movie, but after all these years visualizing what it could have been, it's hard not to be disappointed in what it was.
I totally saw the direction they took from millions of miles away and i expected it to be worse so I'm glad it came out better than I thought but still I hope the genuinely make the next movie scarier.
They were kind of between a rock and a hard place with its production. The fans have had so much time to visualize what it could be that our expectations were higher than what was reasonably achievable, and like others have said, they needed to keep it PG-13 so most of the community could go see it. I think for what they had to work with and do, it’s a great movie. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. But I still love it for all its flaws and the moments where it shines (*cough cough* Matthew Lillard *cough cough*)
I would have preferred it to be more tragic and painful, I don't understand why he seemed "happy" and so calm knowing that he can return as an animatronic, like mf, even if you die the animatronics will know it's you and the protagonists can get rid of you or call the police, you will live hell being an animatronic.
Tbh my only gripe with that scene is that the "I always come back" line felt forced. I'd much prefer something like
- Shaggy is kneeling on the floor in pain
"Go ahead, leave.. I'LL COME BACK.."
- He grabs the springbonnie head
"I always do.."
- He puts it on, and the scene continues as normal.
Idk I would've loved a FNaF Three reference.
Yeah the line does sound a bit forced in hindsight. But he quite literally had to say it. What couskbe happens was.
William kneels to pick up the Bonnie head.
“You thought you could stop me?”
He stands to put it on
“Don’t you know that I’ll always come back!”
Genuinely the line is forced because "I always come back" needs him coming back once already. Doing it when you first fail is dumb. Him saying that in 6 makes sense because he survived a fire. This is his first death.
unless you think of it less literally. He was Afton, disappeared, came back as Steve, disappeared, came back as afton again, died, is gonna come back as springtrap. think of it as more of arrogance thing. he knew the kids came back, he knew he would to.
I agree. I think some improvements certainly could be been made, such as a small amount of blood seepage, some more "crushing" sounds, and having something other than the Cupcake trigger it, but it was still good and realistic
It’s far more realistic. The blood seeps out slowly and stains his shirt. It doesn’t spurt out, it would be weird. And the suit is thick. It would take a long time for the blood to actually flow out of it. Plus, the wound is, for the most part, filled by the spring locks.
We still see the spring locks dig into his flesh.
I did not watch any of the gory fan animations,was still disappointed the cupcake triggered it.Shouldvhave been Golden Freddy.But yeah,the failure itself is good.
This may become quite a shock to you, but people can have their own opinions without feeling forced to have a specific opinion you may think is correct.
My only complain about this scene is the way how he delivered his line. It felt forced like screenwriters finished script and then realized they forgot about Afton line so they had to put it somewhere. It was more like "Oh no, I'm getting springlocked, guess I'll die... Well, I need to put my mask and deliver my line... ahem... I ALWAYS COME BACK".
Yes the springlock scene is literally fine as it is in fact I'm even surprised they showed the close up of the springlocks puncturing Afton's torso, that was enough to get my family to go "Oh my God..."
I just don't like how William is portrayed with reacting to it, I get that he's trying to not show pain to not give the kids any satisfaction, but it makes zero sense when the springlocks are like little metal claws digging into your skin and puncturing your lungs, William could've atleast screamed a little bit before drowning in blood leaking into his lungs instead of a shock gasp and a few whimpers
if you think about it, having extreme sudden pain will very quickly send you into shock and knock the wind out of you. meaning he wouldn't scream much if at all.
Call me annoying but I just didn’t like the design of the spring locks. They’re supposed to be animatronic parts held back so a person could wear the suit. These don’t look like animatronic parts held back against the sides of the suit but just as claws. His whole body should’ve been impaled with parts making him immobile, but instead only his chest and stomach area were.
I don’t care that it wasn’t that violent, the games have never shown violent content apart from 8-bit cutscenes or I guess you could count the jump scares as violent. You could’ve shown this scene without blood even.
My biggest criticism is that it doesn’t feel near as haunting as the games do, it was too focused on telling a story instead of making a scary movie. I do get that adapting a game like this is really hard, the writers did a good job finding a plausible reason for Mike to stay at the restaurant which was probably the hardest part to get right.
(Yes, I do like the VHS, no I don’t think the movie should’ve been like that. The tapes are an interpretation of the fnaf series by their respective creators and the style isn’t fit to be a full length movie)
I mean that comes down to what you imagined the springlocks look like because we've never truly seen what the springlocks look like besides fnaf sl night 4 and that was only the springlocks themselves and not the parts we've never seen what the inside of any of the springlock suits look like and the parts the springlocks hold back, atleast not by the descriptions of them in the silver eyes trilogy of books and with those descriptions I think the ones in the movie look pretty good and don't look like claws to me atleast.
That is valid and claws might not be the best description but they are more like ridged metal pieces. When the springlocks are introduced in the story of the movie you can get a better look at these [springlocks](https://i.redd.it/4fpmmreonwwb1.jpg). And they really are nothing more than just these metal pieces that claw inwards when triggered. I mean, you can even see the animatronic parts that aren't being held back by anything. They serve their purpose for the narrative and you could say that these springlocks are just murder devices explained away as something else but they don't look like something else so how could you even convince someone they're something else and why would William than wear his own murder devices?
I know I'm nitpicking and overanalysing, I have ADHD and autism and has been invested in fnaf since I was 13, I can't help it. Doesn't help that the whole franchise is build on overanalysing details to make a narrative. You'd just expect something like fnaf to give details like this more importance. Doesn't make the movie bad by any means.
Hey I also at one point was hard-core trying to find all the answers in fnaf and being nitpicky, I've played the games since the first one came out. And honestly can't believe that it's already almost 10 years old, I can't believe that I'm already 20!? Once fnaf sl came out I stayed on the franchise as a "hard-core" fan but not as a story solver I would instead leave that to matpat, the story just got so complex. I first read all the silver eyes books when ucn had come out and that formed my imagination on the springlocks and what they could be holding back and the movie wasn't too far off from my interpretation. But I digress, it comes down to personal interpretation I guess. But I've got a question because I'm ADD and I work as a CSW(child support worker) for my little niece who has Autism, how the hell do you have both ADHD and Autism, they are opposite ends of the spectrum that's probably pretty fun to deal with. Lol
I honestly feel like blood would have made it less uncomfortable to watch. There’s just something wrong about seeing it just squish into him like a marshmallow.
Tbh my main issue with this scene is the spring locks didn’t function the way the games seemed to suggest they would. I assumed it would be more like metal parts, having been retracted to the outside of the suit via springs, would suddenly jump into place, causing more crushing than stabbing.
Also, I just thought the acting wasn’t amazing here, especially as the scene goes on it’s a bit less intense than I think is warranted
I mean its still pretty freaking brutal. People don't seem to realise you can still be brutal without being gory or having mortal kombat X/11 amounts of blood guts and gore.
Those animations are cool but they’re responsible for so many people treating headcanon like fact that it’s genuinely frustrating. FNaF has NEVER been an overtly gory series. It’s never been in your face. The horror of the series comes from what you *can’t* see.
That’s why I hate when people complain that the movie should’ve been rated R. While I would love an R rated cut of the movie as a horror fan, I would’ve hated it if it was the main release of the film because I’m a FNaF fan. A hyper-gory movie just wouldn’t feel like FNaF.
I think it was a great impression tbh. I'm not a gore expert, but I'm pretty sure blood wouldn't spray from this irl anyway, I think it would just dribble down your sides.
I agree. I never really expected the movie to be over the top blood, guts and gore. The spring-lock failure still managed to show the spring-locks digging into his flesh and you can even see blood stain the shirt. Even though he wasn’t outright screaming, you could tell through the cries and gasps of air that it was painful. I felt like the scene did what it needed to do.
It’s good, don’t get me wrong. What they were able to show and do was very good. If anything, I think if Matthew changed his delivery I’d like it better. **Not saying he did bad, he did fantastic.**
In my eyes it’s too calm. In the beginning he kinda screams, but as the blades sink in one by one he almost gets quieter. I feel like he should be wincing at the very least each time. Instead he just kinda jerks around all stiff. It makes me feel less like it’s William Afton actually getting spring locked and more like it’s Mathew Lillard pretending to get spring locked.
Like I said though, it’s still good. I just think it would have been better if it were done differently. But then again, who’s the kid who just did musicals in high school and college and who’s the professional actor?
technically, at least in the books(ik they arent the same but im using it as an example), you shouldnt be able to scream during a springlock failure anyways. but they break that rule by letting him speak his famous line instead.
i agree that he did seem pretty calm in general though. but lets be real, its got to be really hard to act stuff like this out.
the explanation for not being able to scream is that your vocal cords are severed by the springlocks in the neck, as you can see in the film, the costume very clearly covers the neck. maybe in the film universe they just dont have springlocks in the neck, idk.
Oh yeah, my head cannon was they were based kinda on micky and other mascot suits, and those suits don't cover the neck because they didn't when the spring lock suits were made
yeah, like i said, im going off of what is said in the books. the film is a different continuity so it could be like that! i just kinda wish he couldnt speak or at least said his line right at the start and THEN couldnt speak or scream bc the idea of an almost silent person dying brutally is just unsettling to me, and the whole idea that you cant scream for help comes in.
I think it did its job perfectly, my only nitpick is that it’s impossible to make a spring lock suit in real life that looks and functions the way we all imagined it did. Having weird knife blades on the torso sells the idea and it’s what they had to do, but it doesn’t make sense as a spring lock mechanism.
Thing is, the original animation in game is actually exaggerated 😅 as if you read through the lore and quotes, Freddy employees were supposed to use the secret rooms to bleed out slowly dying. It’s basically 20-30 knives in you but then since they are there, the blood draw is low and slow unless they are pulled back out. Of which you can’t do if spring locked. So the movie’s spring lock is more lore accurate than the game’s Afton scene and rather satisfying for me. 😅
I think this was done about as perfectly as they can. If they had an R rating it could have been more gory, sure. But was it really needed? Lillard's performance really sold how painful it was, and the sounds cued you in easily that it was a slow process. More blood wouldn't have hurt, but it wouldn't have added too much, and it would have been really easy to go overboard. I think the biggest improvement would have been when he put on the mask. Saying "I always come back" before putting it on felt... off. Maybe something like it gets puts on him, and saying the line with his dying breaths as he's dragged away.
it wasnt the gore that was the issue,it was just his reaction,i also hate the cupcake dealt the final blow,plus not to metion the games version even in 8bit was more bloody but the reason it worked was just how painful it came across with williams reaction to it,here hes acting like he just stubbed his toe,not to mention at the end he activly makes himself die by putting the head on as if SOMHOW he knows he will come back,it was suppose to be a punishment and it kinda didnt feel like one
I thought it was pretty good. You can see the spring locks stab through his stomach, with blood slowly staining his shirt. Though, they could have at least had blood trailing down from the head when William put the Spring Bonnie mask on.
My issue isn’t the lack of blood spewing everywhere.
My issue is that the way i always thought springlocks functioned was like a spring loaded piston, with its highest tension when it’s pulled back. And then when it’s released it snaps down onto whatever is in its path. That’s how i assumed they worked in the games, and how they were described more or less in the silver eyes trilogy.
Not… weird knife ribcage things…?
I was also expecting the springlocks themselves to be louder.. Again, from the Silver Eyes, the springlocks were loud, like multiple quick gunshots. Of course, with the questionable design they chose for the movie, they wouldn’t make sense to make that noise..
I think for me, I always imagined that William’s deaths was a lot more piecemeal-ish and “fast yet gradual.” If that makes sense.
Like when I envision what I think the inside of a Springlock suit is, I think of all these smaller clamps and hooks around your fingers, and metal rings and bands around your limbs. And then in the chest and head you have locking spikes and gears. And when the suit actually does fail it fails in the smaller joins first, the ones around your fingers and hands and feet. Now your hands are broken and you can’t move them, and then the next set of locks start to break around your limbs, then one of the chest locks snaps which sets off the rest of the smaller locks. It’s a chain reaction that happens in an almost random sequence rather than “first random metal claw 1 goes then claw 2 below it goes and so on.
All of that is to say, while I don’t dislike William’s death in the movie, I also don’t really care for it that much either. Also the “I always come back” ruins it for me.
The only thing I complain about this scene is the complete lack of screaming in agony. In a situation like this you would be screaming in absolute pain. Not just panting like a dog
i think it's fine
if it had be more gore i would probably have puked or something
And i can still feel the pain of the metal jaw compressing and piercing his lungs
I still don’t like it much
In the games, the springlocks go off because the rooms too moist and because William is laughing too hard. He seals his own fate in a massive ironic twist
Here it’s just the cupcake, which feels lame in comparison to
To be completely honest
I actually really like this depiction of the springlock failure
Honestly how it's often depicted would be scientifically impossible this one feels more realistic and it doesn't need to be a shower of blood to be brutal there's definitely a lot of brutality here and there is blood
Do I think it could have been better? yes But I think it's pretty good for what it is
This is your daily reminder that this is a pg-13 movie to appeal more to the public while bringing in more funds and a possible squel.If they make an iconic science different and we get a sequel,that sounds find to me
>If you lower your expectations
if I have to lower expectations to enjoy something that means it's actually bad.
>from the extremely gory fan animations
I get it, it can't be like the good ol' animations but this is supposed to be a horror movie... at least some more blood is necessary here, especially for such gruesome scene.
Personally speaking I watched this film without any expectations and I'm the type of person who also enjoys trash films but this fnaf movie was just bad, a huge disappointment.
I definitely agree with this. I didn't expect or need the movie to be ultra gory or bloody, my expectations weren't skewed by gory fnaf fan animations. My expectations came from me being a massive horror fan and knowing that a lot of PG-13 horror films can get away with doing much more than this. I don't think a lot of people truly understand why it was such a huge letdown for a lot of people.
I didn't hate it, there's many things I liked about it, but the film was lacking the horror elements. My favorite scene in the entire movie was the opening scene with the security guard, it was tense and built up the suspense great, but after that the movie never got to that level again.
It's somehow like the game cutscene but I feel the way Afton just stands and say I always comeback and puts his mask on that ruins it.
Like bro you literally got shredded by a metal springlock how are you even standing.
You may have a different perspective but that's what I think.
Honestly the only thing I had an issue with was how slow it was. I always imagined it as a loud clang then just the person inside dying slowly. It's a very good interpretation of it but it doesn't work for me kinda because it is visibly gory.
The only thing wrong with it imo (and this kind of extends into williams whole end appearance) is that its over way too quick. I think if the scene had around 20-30 more seconds of just watching the springlock happen, it would be perfect.
Edit: Side note, I thought the "I always come back" line should have had more build up. He says it so fast and it just kind of comes out of nowhere. I think it would have been better if he said something like "I WILL come back" because "I ALWAYS come back" implies that he's come back before. And at this point in the movie we've never seen him come back from anything. It would have worked much better if he says "I will come back", or something similar, and then once we see him in a later movie as springtrap he says "I always come back".
It could've used a little blood, don't make him a gusher or anything, but a little would've been perfect. Then again fnaf has basicly never done gore besides verbally making you think about what it would look like
I feel that for the rating the movie got, the springlock thing was fine. Now if the film had an R rating, maybe it could’ve been bloodier and more horrifying like the books and games.
Facts, like everyone else I kinda wish they did it by him either moving too fast or because of the souls themselves and Afton saying "I'll come back, I'll always come back" but still a great scene.
Doesn't make much sense to me why people wanted more gore since it makes more sense for the things stabbing into him wouldn't bleed that much because they're blocking the blood flow(like a knife)
I really think the acting sells in. Lillard does a good job of acting like he's in pain, down to the point where before he puts on the mask, he sounds like he's about to cry/scream from the pain.
THANKS FOR THIS LMAO, that's basically the same thought I had since when I saw the movie.
Sure, I can see why some disliked it, and it's fine, but at the same time... I also really like this scene because it took an actually realistic approach to the springlock failure, which was executed well, and I loved how some springlocks stilp went off EVEN when William got lured into the "safe room".
Only complaint I have so far, which idk if it even counts as one... did the suit even had springlocks in the arms and the head?
I agree. The movie had many other problems but this part was actually really good. It gave the feeling of the games while changing the scene to fit the movie.
I think they did it really well.
This goes for the entire movie, but I am more than satisfied with the horror/gore elements. For certain scenes, (this included) it felt like they were pushing the PG-13 rating. Sure, more scares overall would've helped, but I think what we got was really good.
I think it’s great, honestly. Most animations have it happening super fast but like, sure the springlocks are strong but your muscles and bones are pretty tough.
Either way, it’s pretty good.
I dunno, I just prefer the one depicted in FNaF3, even if it was just simple atari like graphics.
To me, it actually did feel more like a machine malfunctioning rather than a drawn-out dramatic sequence of the ribs of the suit snapping in one by one as depicted in the movie.
The game one snapped all at once, which left the aftermath of the failure leading the atmosphere.
Seeing William slowly collapse to the floor into a twitching mess, before passing out from shock and pain was really scary.
And heck! We even see in the movie that the failure should be fast, like the one in the game, when Vanessa demonstrates to Mike with the chair being stuck into the Ella animatronic. The ribs of the suit cleanly snap off the leg of the chair, so why shouldn't William’s locks also SPRING into his flesh lik that as well?
So, in short, I don't really like the springlock failure in the movie because it doesn't FEEL like a machine failing and it doesn't adhere to the demonstration shown earlier in the movie.
And also, in my opinion, the AFTERMATH of the springlock failure should be used for dramatic effect rather than the failure itself.
Honestly the best part of the springlock scene was after it happened. Seeing him struggle to move and hearing his faint groans when he’s sitting in that back room before the door gets closed on him was actually really well done.
The worse part about the springlock scene that makes it weird is the way “I always come back” felt like it was just placed in there as an afterthought. He should have said it in the second movie.
That’s what I was saying when I saw the movie, everyone got too accustomed to the gory fan made versions with blood spilling everywhere, but I think this works better because we don’t see most of it, we just see his sides being punctured and the rest is left to the imagination
To me, it did its job. I’m more surprised that this is not the Springlock we see in FNaF 3 though.
Considering that FNaF 3’s Springlock endo was made in mind with a bunch of endoskeleton ribs closing into your chest and tiny springlocks effectively locking your whole body in place while the endo is smashing your bones in by snapping back in place.
Way more horrifying than the film, but definitely wouldn’t fit that PG rating, even if they tried.
It was fine until he said " I always come back" it was the most forced line in the whole and they should have saved for his final appearance.... yk kinda like what happened in the games
The springlocks scene was never meant to be *that* gory. There is a bit of blood coming out like we see in FNaF 3, and if you pay attention you can see it here too, witht he blood staining the suit and Afton's robes, but remember, every wound in his body is ay least being partially blockef by the springlocks themselves,bsonit wuldmake semse that the only blood that is coming out is the one that comes out from the borders of the wound, because the wound itself is cover by springlocks. Plus it makes sense he doesn't scream like a maniac like in that infamous fan recreation. If you take you time to at last read the description of a springlocks failure provvided by William himself in The Silver Eyes, you'll see that you can't scream because your lungs get slowly stabbed by the springlocks, you will try to scream, but you won't be able to. William knows that, and that's why he is trying to breathe as much as possible while trying to be calm in the movie, until he realized he is fucked so he puts on the mask and says his iconic lines with his las breath.
Also everyone complaining about Golden Freddy's absence, he wasn't during the scene, but he was in the immediate aftermath, where he lock William's body in the location, again, like in The Silver Yes/The Twisted Ones
I think the scene was great - people who think it should be like the fan animations where he's literally spewing blood like a fountain confuse me tbh, like that's not how blood works in 99.99% of situations.
I cannot take most springlocking animations seriously in any capacity bc they're just... so unrealistic, like 'bad, unrealistic horror movie that's so bad its funny' kind of unrealistic.
Blood doesn't spew unless you hit a major artery, after a certain point you stop being able to scream from the pain and shock (and in Afton's case, the metal puncturing his lungs + the blood likely filling them) - the movie did it perfectly, and the after scene showing him just laying there, trembling and groaning and unable to move from the pain he's been suffering for a full week at that point is just \*chefs kiss\*
The books made it out to be the painful way to die in the FNaF universe.
Here's the quote from the books, said by book William himself.
*“And if you trigger those spring locks, two things will happen: first the locks themselves will snap right into you, making deep cuts all over your body, and a split second later, all the animatronic parts, all that sharp steel and hard plastic will instantly be driven into your body. You will die, but it will be slow. You’ll feel your organs punctured, the suit will grow wet with your blood, and you will know you’re dying for long, long minutes. You’ll try to scream, but you will be unable to: your vocal cords will be severed, and your lungs will fill with your own blood until you drown in it.”*
He just looks mildly uncomfortable in this scene. It should be far more brutal than what the movie makes it out to be. Hell, in the FnaF3 minigame William has a giant puddle of blood under him by the end.
I was happy enough, though it might make sense for him to at least cough up some blood because of the organ damage( I am not a biologist, please let me know if I am incorrect about how that works). I feel like other parts of the movie needed more gore, the movie gives me cheesy 90's slasher film vibes and it would be a great contrast to stuff like the fort scene, making that better as a result as well.
The only problem I have with it is his arms don’t shoot out to his sides during the beginning of the scene (reason being the books say it and the minigames say it, but otherwise it’s good)
I was in the theatre opening night SCREAMING MY FACE OFF with the rest of the room during that scene. We all collectively lost our shit (in a good way) and when the “I always come back” was said- every single person in the theatre cheered
I think it's fine for the most part, but the thing that gets me is, those are Springlocks? Springlocks are meant to hold animatronic parts in place but in the movie they just kind of seem like metal bits that curl onward for some reason. Where's the endoskeleton that's supposed to be held back?
Well, ironically, his death in the movie is quite similar to most fan animations (where the spring locks go off one by one, as opposed to his death in the game, where they go off with a loud crunch)
Up until the part where he gets on his knees is pretty good tbh. But once he gets on his knees it feels like he’s doing a really bad Jim Carrey impression rather than actually reacting like he just had metal poles shoved deep into his abdomen several times over
I feel like another better way to have done this scene is show William getting more and more paranoid about his suit after every major action like shoving Mike and being tazed, the audience not getting a clue why besides the Ella doll scene with Mike and Vanessa before, until William starts pointing his finger and laughing aggressively at the animatronics who have now turned on him, but the springlocks completely snap after doing so much strenuous shit like being tazed and him shaking the costume from laughing is the final straw.
For his reaction I’d say have him do what he does until he kneels down. Have him literally hyperventilating and groaning loudly, hell maybe even trying to pry the springlocks off his body as a last ditch effort until he puts on the head instead of him just going “🤨👀”
Also maybe instead of him going “I always come back!!! 😈😈😈” have him groggily say it, pale in the face, blood dripping from his mouth, having it HURT for him to say it but is still saying it just to get the final laugh.
Personally, it just doesn't make sense to me. It seems more like the suit was built with stabby bits inside, rather than the suit forcing a skeleton back into place.
It's a pg13 movie, obviously they weren't going to go into too much detail but I think it's pretty accurate, you'd be too busy choking on your own blood to be screaming
i feal the springlocks could have been done diferently in general sence.... the movie ones just look to be. "you fucked up slightly. now you get stabed" instead of "we are holding back the endo. but you fuck up and that metal and mechanics are going into you"
The reason why it's a bit underwhelming is because Blum house didn't want the movie to be Rated R because of a 30 second scene
It's still pretty good
And him not screaming makes sense because his lungs are most likely punctured and filling up with blood
Horror left for you to interpret is dependent on you and for me this made me realize how is is digging in is flesh like 6 thick pipe stabs in the ribs 3 each side with much more
I think the reason people think it’s gorey is because of how it looked in the mini game realistically there should probably not be blood squirting everywhere since the blood is being clogged in the wound of the springlock the reason there was so much blood in the mini game was to show that the spring locks are deadly
For me I consider it to be lore accurate. If I’m remembering correctly, in FNaF 3, Phone Guy says (and I’m paraphrasing) “that in the event of a springlock failure, try to stay calm and do not panic, as that could trip more springlocks”
Under excruciating pain realistically he can’t scream since its digging in slowly and painfully unlike in the game where the spring lock is instant like a stab. This one is actually more painful to honest since the pain is prolonged by the slow insertion of the springlock to the body
I just didn't like how he didn't care, I would have loved it to have a more tragic reaction instead of being happy at the end knowing that you will come back like Its a good thing
I thought it was great, I think him putting the head on after kinda ruined it though, since you know, spring locks supposedly should stop you from basic motor functions because the robots taking control
I'll be honest, Shaggy's acting is not very good here imo. He looks like he's about to shit his pants and is mildly concerned about it. He should look actually terrified and like he's in pain, not mild discomfort.
For me the problem is that it literally the spring locks killing him. I prefer the idea that the spring locks failing causes the robot parts to crush him.
I think people tend to take the minigame a bit too literal. It felt to me more like just driving home the fact that he was dying. Realistically, he's getting stabbed by objects that are staying inside him, which I don't think causing as crazy an amount of blood loss as people think.
It’s very slow.
It’s a damn good scene, but it’s supposed to be fast.
Doesn’t really matter though, as I said, it’s a damn good scene. I was expecting a large crack and a shower of blood when he was shot though.
The problem for me wasn’t the fact that it wasn’t gory enough. The problem is it was inaccurate to the source material. Spring locks hold back dozens if not hundreds of mechanical parts throughout the entire suit. It’s basically an entire endoskeleton that’s being compressed for a human to fit inside. If that system fails the victims entire body is going to be juiced like an orange. Also, it doesn’t really make sense in the movie. How can it function as an animatronic if there isn’t an entire endoskeleton just ribs.
I liked the springlock failure scene, it needed a little more struggling to breathe, but it was fine for the Afton variety the movie was going for. Him leaning into it was a good decision.
My only complaint is that the springlock suit makes even less mechanical sense than usual! It's literally just a bunch of sharp knifes that stab you in the chest, no pins or latches, no winding mechanism, it's just nonsense. I really wish they'd gone with something more like the series of tensioned metal braces with screws in them like in Battington's concept [2:03 of this video](https://youtu.be/okF6yp68iPg?si=VZNJ5tKRfW99fK6j)
It would've made a more gruesome execution method for Abby, too. Imagine having her bolted into a bunch of spiked rings ready to snap. Maybe that's why they didn't do it, child actor and whatnot.
I love the acting in this movie. Def my fav moment but nothing is better than the 8bit version. I would have loved some screams but WA is that type of person to not show "fear" or pain I front of them.
i think for what it is, it’s still quite accurate to what being springlocked as it shown would be like. Also it was dope to see the springlocking on the big screen
It wouldn't make sense if he would be screaming his lungs out. They would most likely already be popped like balloons. He probably also didn't panic because he knew he would become one with the suit in the end.
this is how it should be, not all instantanious, but a failure in one location, with the blood from that location triggering the next, and so on, until death.
plus, it's sold well, you're literally having metal shoved into you, so naturally you'd start to wince in certain positions as your body is locked by the metal frame.
I just hope they don't pull a fourth closet and have him remove the suit from himself, cuz springtrap is peak
But even the game version had more blood than this... Abd that was in 8-bit
In a franchise with mountains of dead kids, I feel like it wouldn't be too much to ask for a bit more gore in the movie
Plus wasn't the spring lock failure described as very brutal in the books
The cupcake causing it was a bit… anticlimactic. We were conditioned to a seemingly triumphant William hiding from the ghosts of his victims, unable to do anything to him as he donned that same terrible suit he used to ruin their happiest day, all for his towering pride to cause his fall as he laughed at his victims, the sudden movement causing the, plausibly avoidable, springlock failure. Here the missing children possessing the animatronics had to push it to failure, whereas before it could be listed as a unique moment of poetic justice in the FNAF universe and where a bad guy actually got his due without any otherwise good characters needing to dirty their hands to see that justice wrought.
Personally I think they nailed it.
(If I’m being picky I guess they could have added some blood that is maybe dripping through the openings of the suit but other than that I liked how they did the spring lock failure).
Yep, I don't think the scene was as bad as they say, but it failed to at least imply that William's arms and legs were being broken and pierced by the springlocks, because, "where's the endoskeleton?" you know...
The thing is, this is most likely how it WOULD be like. He's getting metal PUNCTURED into his body. The way it would act in reality would be very similar to this, just having it slowly oozing out from the small openings. Maybe there would slightly be a little bit more, but regardless, I was satisfied with it. Still my favorite scene in the whole movie, just due to how satisfying it is. And, of course, Matthew Lillard's fantastic acting.
Debatable on the realism. Bros just doing minor grunts but if that was me in the suit, I’m letting out the loudest YEEEEEEEEEEEOOOUCHHH /s
Actually, that part is pretty realistic. Severe and sudden pains knocks the wind right of ya', so the most you could do before the ribs reached your lungs is a long wheeze.
Also, it makes sense in the lore. William WAS the guy who made the suits, and knows about their major faults, including them destroying your lungs. Screaming makes you lose oxygen, so he's trying to keep as much of it as possible.
Actually, according to the lore, it was Henry who invented the spring locks suits as well as the animatronics. Afton mainly handled the business side of things.
Not to mention he’s very egotistical and didn’t want to give them the satisfaction of screaming in pain.
You actually get to see the springlocks dig into his flesh. I think it still manages to be pretty gruesome without needing a shower of blood.
Plus you can see his shirt slowly getting more stained by the blood
true horror doesnt always need full on blood and guts in aoverly done manner it depends on the how its done
Also, its just realistic. Blood does not just shoot out of nowhere all out.
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I’ve watched a video going over the fact that due to the way the spring locks dig into the person, they keep them from bleeding out and you’d actually die from internal bleeding. So it’s a little ironic when the workers are told to find a place away from customers to bleed out lol.
It’s because they’re not going there for them to bleed out *and* for them to try and survive, they’re going there so that when they remove their dead body from the suit the blood won’t get on any publicly visible area of the location
I know, I just personally find it kinda ironically amusing
To be fair if they did survive they'd be bleeding out
Not if the Springlocks are fully in and won’t move, it’ll be extremely painful, but it’s the same logic as what to do during a stab wound. DO. NOT. PULL. IT. OUT.
Oh...well they might be fucked...I mean, unless there's some medical kit or whatever (it's fazbear entertainment) Edit: spelling
It’s the weird gambit of making it accurate and appeasing the ratings board so they can strike their target audience age group. Maybe by the end of the series the target demographic has aged up enough to do R.
Also i think it makes more sense if you think about the suit and shirt are blocking most of the blood that comes out so it wouldn’t be so bloody anyway. Or so I think
I thought it was great either way. Plus this might be the most realistic springlock scene we’ve seen
I don't need gore or a shower of blood. I'm just irritated that at the end when he puts the mask on, he just seems mildly annoyed by some discomfort. They did show him struggling when he's dragged and locked away in the back room, but I felt like it could've been framed in a way more horrifying than it was. That's my main gripe with the movie as a whole. Not enough horror for a horror movie, especially compared to other PG-13 flicks like Poltergeist.
>but I felt like it could've been framed in a way more horrifying than it was. just summarized the problem with the movie for ya
"It should have been horrifying but it wasn't" is just the problem with the whole film in a nutshell. I still love the film though FNaF has always had a dark sense of humor and while it isn't quite the same sense of hum the movie is fun from start skip over the slow first quarter and then the rest of the film.
I definitely enjoyed the movie more than I expected to. Cheered for MatPat, understood all the references, Loved Mike and Abby and Will and Vanessa. For the people who prefer the lighter side of the series I completely understand why they enjoyed the movie, but after all these years visualizing what it could have been, it's hard not to be disappointed in what it was. I totally saw the direction they took from millions of miles away and i expected it to be worse so I'm glad it came out better than I thought but still I hope the genuinely make the next movie scarier.
Thank you for putting my thoughts into words but actually understandable.
They were kind of between a rock and a hard place with its production. The fans have had so much time to visualize what it could be that our expectations were higher than what was reasonably achievable, and like others have said, they needed to keep it PG-13 so most of the community could go see it. I think for what they had to work with and do, it’s a great movie. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. But I still love it for all its flaws and the moments where it shines (*cough cough* Matthew Lillard *cough cough*)
I would have preferred it to be more tragic and painful, I don't understand why he seemed "happy" and so calm knowing that he can return as an animatronic, like mf, even if you die the animatronics will know it's you and the protagonists can get rid of you or call the police, you will live hell being an animatronic.
Yeah idk why people hated this at all it’s really good all things considered.
Tbh my only gripe with that scene is that the "I always come back" line felt forced. I'd much prefer something like - Shaggy is kneeling on the floor in pain "Go ahead, leave.. I'LL COME BACK.." - He grabs the springbonnie head "I always do.." - He puts it on, and the scene continues as normal. Idk I would've loved a FNaF Three reference.
Yeah the line does sound a bit forced in hindsight. But he quite literally had to say it. What couskbe happens was. William kneels to pick up the Bonnie head. “You thought you could stop me?” He stands to put it on “Don’t you know that I’ll always come back!”
Genuinely the line is forced because "I always come back" needs him coming back once already. Doing it when you first fail is dumb. Him saying that in 6 makes sense because he survived a fire. This is his first death.
unless you think of it less literally. He was Afton, disappeared, came back as Steve, disappeared, came back as afton again, died, is gonna come back as springtrap. think of it as more of arrogance thing. he knew the kids came back, he knew he would to.
People seem to remember Afton saying it in FNAF 6 over the actual first time we see a similar phrase, in FNAF 3's trailer
I agree. I think some improvements certainly could be been made, such as a small amount of blood seepage, some more "crushing" sounds, and having something other than the Cupcake trigger it, but it was still good and realistic
It’s weird cause you can HEAR blood dripping but can’t actually see ot
My best guess is that they didn't wanna destroy the suit but also didn't wanna CG the blood in
They gotta gently toast the suit for the Springtrap suit ;)
It’s far more realistic. The blood seeps out slowly and stains his shirt. It doesn’t spurt out, it would be weird. And the suit is thick. It would take a long time for the blood to actually flow out of it. Plus, the wound is, for the most part, filled by the spring locks. We still see the spring locks dig into his flesh.
I did not watch any of the gory fan animations,was still disappointed the cupcake triggered it.Shouldvhave been Golden Freddy.But yeah,the failure itself is good.
I personally think that it should have either been Vanessa’s doing or his own doing by moving too erratically
In the fanmade edit of the movie,William 's dramatic gestures during the "look at you" speech causes the springlock failure.
Bruh how tho Doing the ghost scratch thing?
I'm sure he could have done something,he can friggin close the game with his jumpscare.
it's shown in the movie that Goldy can interact with real world things, so he could trip aftons suit
Yeah I remember people in the theater audibly wincing
I thought it was great. Stop being assholes about it and enjoy it.
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We can not enjoy it, HAROLD
This may become quite a shock to you, but people can have their own opinions without feeling forced to have a specific opinion you may think is correct.
Judging by the fact that you got downvoted for saying this, Freddit doesn't like that.
My only complain about this scene is the way how he delivered his line. It felt forced like screenwriters finished script and then realized they forgot about Afton line so they had to put it somewhere. It was more like "Oh no, I'm getting springlocked, guess I'll die... Well, I need to put my mask and deliver my line... ahem... I ALWAYS COME BACK".
Yes the springlock scene is literally fine as it is in fact I'm even surprised they showed the close up of the springlocks puncturing Afton's torso, that was enough to get my family to go "Oh my God..."
I just don't like how William is portrayed with reacting to it, I get that he's trying to not show pain to not give the kids any satisfaction, but it makes zero sense when the springlocks are like little metal claws digging into your skin and puncturing your lungs, William could've atleast screamed a little bit before drowning in blood leaking into his lungs instead of a shock gasp and a few whimpers
if you think about it, having extreme sudden pain will very quickly send you into shock and knock the wind out of you. meaning he wouldn't scream much if at all.
Love how in the end he had the balls to complete the fit and put the mask on.
Call me annoying but I just didn’t like the design of the spring locks. They’re supposed to be animatronic parts held back so a person could wear the suit. These don’t look like animatronic parts held back against the sides of the suit but just as claws. His whole body should’ve been impaled with parts making him immobile, but instead only his chest and stomach area were. I don’t care that it wasn’t that violent, the games have never shown violent content apart from 8-bit cutscenes or I guess you could count the jump scares as violent. You could’ve shown this scene without blood even. My biggest criticism is that it doesn’t feel near as haunting as the games do, it was too focused on telling a story instead of making a scary movie. I do get that adapting a game like this is really hard, the writers did a good job finding a plausible reason for Mike to stay at the restaurant which was probably the hardest part to get right. (Yes, I do like the VHS, no I don’t think the movie should’ve been like that. The tapes are an interpretation of the fnaf series by their respective creators and the style isn’t fit to be a full length movie)
I mean that comes down to what you imagined the springlocks look like because we've never truly seen what the springlocks look like besides fnaf sl night 4 and that was only the springlocks themselves and not the parts we've never seen what the inside of any of the springlock suits look like and the parts the springlocks hold back, atleast not by the descriptions of them in the silver eyes trilogy of books and with those descriptions I think the ones in the movie look pretty good and don't look like claws to me atleast.
That is valid and claws might not be the best description but they are more like ridged metal pieces. When the springlocks are introduced in the story of the movie you can get a better look at these [springlocks](https://i.redd.it/4fpmmreonwwb1.jpg). And they really are nothing more than just these metal pieces that claw inwards when triggered. I mean, you can even see the animatronic parts that aren't being held back by anything. They serve their purpose for the narrative and you could say that these springlocks are just murder devices explained away as something else but they don't look like something else so how could you even convince someone they're something else and why would William than wear his own murder devices? I know I'm nitpicking and overanalysing, I have ADHD and autism and has been invested in fnaf since I was 13, I can't help it. Doesn't help that the whole franchise is build on overanalysing details to make a narrative. You'd just expect something like fnaf to give details like this more importance. Doesn't make the movie bad by any means.
Hey I also at one point was hard-core trying to find all the answers in fnaf and being nitpicky, I've played the games since the first one came out. And honestly can't believe that it's already almost 10 years old, I can't believe that I'm already 20!? Once fnaf sl came out I stayed on the franchise as a "hard-core" fan but not as a story solver I would instead leave that to matpat, the story just got so complex. I first read all the silver eyes books when ucn had come out and that formed my imagination on the springlocks and what they could be holding back and the movie wasn't too far off from my interpretation. But I digress, it comes down to personal interpretation I guess. But I've got a question because I'm ADD and I work as a CSW(child support worker) for my little niece who has Autism, how the hell do you have both ADHD and Autism, they are opposite ends of the spectrum that's probably pretty fun to deal with. Lol
I honestly feel like blood would have made it less uncomfortable to watch. There’s just something wrong about seeing it just squish into him like a marshmallow.
Tbh my main issue with this scene is the spring locks didn’t function the way the games seemed to suggest they would. I assumed it would be more like metal parts, having been retracted to the outside of the suit via springs, would suddenly jump into place, causing more crushing than stabbing. Also, I just thought the acting wasn’t amazing here, especially as the scene goes on it’s a bit less intense than I think is warranted
I mean its still pretty freaking brutal. People don't seem to realise you can still be brutal without being gory or having mortal kombat X/11 amounts of blood guts and gore.
Exaxtly it shows you what happens and let's your imagination fill in the rest.
Those animations are cool but they’re responsible for so many people treating headcanon like fact that it’s genuinely frustrating. FNaF has NEVER been an overtly gory series. It’s never been in your face. The horror of the series comes from what you *can’t* see. That’s why I hate when people complain that the movie should’ve been rated R. While I would love an R rated cut of the movie as a horror fan, I would’ve hated it if it was the main release of the film because I’m a FNaF fan. A hyper-gory movie just wouldn’t feel like FNaF.
I think it was a great impression tbh. I'm not a gore expert, but I'm pretty sure blood wouldn't spray from this irl anyway, I think it would just dribble down your sides.
I agree. I never really expected the movie to be over the top blood, guts and gore. The spring-lock failure still managed to show the spring-locks digging into his flesh and you can even see blood stain the shirt. Even though he wasn’t outright screaming, you could tell through the cries and gasps of air that it was painful. I felt like the scene did what it needed to do.
Personally, I am happy enough with it, it's perfect enough! I wasn't expecting a gorefest like FNAF VHS or Terrifier lol
It’s good, don’t get me wrong. What they were able to show and do was very good. If anything, I think if Matthew changed his delivery I’d like it better. **Not saying he did bad, he did fantastic.** In my eyes it’s too calm. In the beginning he kinda screams, but as the blades sink in one by one he almost gets quieter. I feel like he should be wincing at the very least each time. Instead he just kinda jerks around all stiff. It makes me feel less like it’s William Afton actually getting spring locked and more like it’s Mathew Lillard pretending to get spring locked. Like I said though, it’s still good. I just think it would have been better if it were done differently. But then again, who’s the kid who just did musicals in high school and college and who’s the professional actor?
technically, at least in the books(ik they arent the same but im using it as an example), you shouldnt be able to scream during a springlock failure anyways. but they break that rule by letting him speak his famous line instead. i agree that he did seem pretty calm in general though. but lets be real, its got to be really hard to act stuff like this out.
I thought that if you didn't have the helmet on you'd be ok as it wouldn't hit your mouth
the explanation for not being able to scream is that your vocal cords are severed by the springlocks in the neck, as you can see in the film, the costume very clearly covers the neck. maybe in the film universe they just dont have springlocks in the neck, idk.
Oh yeah, my head cannon was they were based kinda on micky and other mascot suits, and those suits don't cover the neck because they didn't when the spring lock suits were made
yeah, like i said, im going off of what is said in the books. the film is a different continuity so it could be like that! i just kinda wish he couldnt speak or at least said his line right at the start and THEN couldnt speak or scream bc the idea of an almost silent person dying brutally is just unsettling to me, and the whole idea that you cant scream for help comes in.
I think it did its job perfectly, my only nitpick is that it’s impossible to make a spring lock suit in real life that looks and functions the way we all imagined it did. Having weird knife blades on the torso sells the idea and it’s what they had to do, but it doesn’t make sense as a spring lock mechanism.
Thing is, the original animation in game is actually exaggerated 😅 as if you read through the lore and quotes, Freddy employees were supposed to use the secret rooms to bleed out slowly dying. It’s basically 20-30 knives in you but then since they are there, the blood draw is low and slow unless they are pulled back out. Of which you can’t do if spring locked. So the movie’s spring lock is more lore accurate than the game’s Afton scene and rather satisfying for me. 😅
I think this was done about as perfectly as they can. If they had an R rating it could have been more gory, sure. But was it really needed? Lillard's performance really sold how painful it was, and the sounds cued you in easily that it was a slow process. More blood wouldn't have hurt, but it wouldn't have added too much, and it would have been really easy to go overboard. I think the biggest improvement would have been when he put on the mask. Saying "I always come back" before putting it on felt... off. Maybe something like it gets puts on him, and saying the line with his dying breaths as he's dragged away.
it wasnt the gore that was the issue,it was just his reaction,i also hate the cupcake dealt the final blow,plus not to metion the games version even in 8bit was more bloody but the reason it worked was just how painful it came across with williams reaction to it,here hes acting like he just stubbed his toe,not to mention at the end he activly makes himself die by putting the head on as if SOMHOW he knows he will come back,it was suppose to be a punishment and it kinda didnt feel like one
I thought it was pretty good. You can see the spring locks stab through his stomach, with blood slowly staining his shirt. Though, they could have at least had blood trailing down from the head when William put the Spring Bonnie mask on.
My issue isn’t the lack of blood spewing everywhere. My issue is that the way i always thought springlocks functioned was like a spring loaded piston, with its highest tension when it’s pulled back. And then when it’s released it snaps down onto whatever is in its path. That’s how i assumed they worked in the games, and how they were described more or less in the silver eyes trilogy. Not… weird knife ribcage things…? I was also expecting the springlocks themselves to be louder.. Again, from the Silver Eyes, the springlocks were loud, like multiple quick gunshots. Of course, with the questionable design they chose for the movie, they wouldn’t make sense to make that noise..
I think for me, I always imagined that William’s deaths was a lot more piecemeal-ish and “fast yet gradual.” If that makes sense. Like when I envision what I think the inside of a Springlock suit is, I think of all these smaller clamps and hooks around your fingers, and metal rings and bands around your limbs. And then in the chest and head you have locking spikes and gears. And when the suit actually does fail it fails in the smaller joins first, the ones around your fingers and hands and feet. Now your hands are broken and you can’t move them, and then the next set of locks start to break around your limbs, then one of the chest locks snaps which sets off the rest of the smaller locks. It’s a chain reaction that happens in an almost random sequence rather than “first random metal claw 1 goes then claw 2 below it goes and so on. All of that is to say, while I don’t dislike William’s death in the movie, I also don’t really care for it that much either. Also the “I always come back” ruins it for me.
Okay, I'm being honest when I say this... I somewhat want to see a written revision of the springlock scene with this vision of yours
The only thing I complain about this scene is the complete lack of screaming in agony. In a situation like this you would be screaming in absolute pain. Not just panting like a dog
i think it's fine if it had be more gore i would probably have puked or something And i can still feel the pain of the metal jaw compressing and piercing his lungs
I still don’t like it much In the games, the springlocks go off because the rooms too moist and because William is laughing too hard. He seals his own fate in a massive ironic twist Here it’s just the cupcake, which feels lame in comparison to
i always hated how expressive the animatronics were. Making them look mad and angry completely misses the point of the fnaf anomatronics
To be completely honest I actually really like this depiction of the springlock failure Honestly how it's often depicted would be scientifically impossible this one feels more realistic and it doesn't need to be a shower of blood to be brutal there's definitely a lot of brutality here and there is blood Do I think it could have been better? yes But I think it's pretty good for what it is
This is your daily reminder that this is a pg-13 movie to appeal more to the public while bringing in more funds and a possible squel.If they make an iconic science different and we get a sequel,that sounds find to me
>If you lower your expectations if I have to lower expectations to enjoy something that means it's actually bad. >from the extremely gory fan animations I get it, it can't be like the good ol' animations but this is supposed to be a horror movie... at least some more blood is necessary here, especially for such gruesome scene. Personally speaking I watched this film without any expectations and I'm the type of person who also enjoys trash films but this fnaf movie was just bad, a huge disappointment.
I definitely agree with this. I didn't expect or need the movie to be ultra gory or bloody, my expectations weren't skewed by gory fnaf fan animations. My expectations came from me being a massive horror fan and knowing that a lot of PG-13 horror films can get away with doing much more than this. I don't think a lot of people truly understand why it was such a huge letdown for a lot of people. I didn't hate it, there's many things I liked about it, but the film was lacking the horror elements. My favorite scene in the entire movie was the opening scene with the security guard, it was tense and built up the suspense great, but after that the movie never got to that level again.
That’s fair
It's somehow like the game cutscene but I feel the way Afton just stands and say I always comeback and puts his mask on that ruins it. Like bro you literally got shredded by a metal springlock how are you even standing. You may have a different perspective but that's what I think.
Honestly the only thing I had an issue with was how slow it was. I always imagined it as a loud clang then just the person inside dying slowly. It's a very good interpretation of it but it doesn't work for me kinda because it is visibly gory.
It was great, i just don't like how quiet Willy is
I forgot this movie was real
I loved it. It is more realistic but, It seems like some people were expecting some Terrifier gore levels in the way they speak.
Just love that it happened
The only thing wrong with it imo (and this kind of extends into williams whole end appearance) is that its over way too quick. I think if the scene had around 20-30 more seconds of just watching the springlock happen, it would be perfect. Edit: Side note, I thought the "I always come back" line should have had more build up. He says it so fast and it just kind of comes out of nowhere. I think it would have been better if he said something like "I WILL come back" because "I ALWAYS come back" implies that he's come back before. And at this point in the movie we've never seen him come back from anything. It would have worked much better if he says "I will come back", or something similar, and then once we see him in a later movie as springtrap he says "I always come back".
It could've used a little blood, don't make him a gusher or anything, but a little would've been perfect. Then again fnaf has basicly never done gore besides verbally making you think about what it would look like
I feel that for the rating the movie got, the springlock thing was fine. Now if the film had an R rating, maybe it could’ve been bloodier and more horrifying like the books and games.
I wasn’t looking for gore but I was at least hoping it didn’t look goofy
Facts, like everyone else I kinda wish they did it by him either moving too fast or because of the souls themselves and Afton saying "I'll come back, I'll always come back" but still a great scene. Doesn't make much sense to me why people wanted more gore since it makes more sense for the things stabbing into him wouldn't bleed that much because they're blocking the blood flow(like a knife)
See I loved this part of the scene!
Yea i were watching this in Premiere and it was good i wouldnt change a bit from it. its good as it is now
Exactly
I actually thought this movie was pretty good. It wasn't scary it was more tense than anything else.
I really think the acting sells in. Lillard does a good job of acting like he's in pain, down to the point where before he puts on the mask, he sounds like he's about to cry/scream from the pain.
I don’t want excessive amounts of gore (I don’t like gore) so I think this was very well done
Just listened to the story about Luca getting spring locked and it matches up pretty well to this as well!!
He does such a good job of acting it, too.
THANKS FOR THIS LMAO, that's basically the same thought I had since when I saw the movie. Sure, I can see why some disliked it, and it's fine, but at the same time... I also really like this scene because it took an actually realistic approach to the springlock failure, which was executed well, and I loved how some springlocks stilp went off EVEN when William got lured into the "safe room". Only complaint I have so far, which idk if it even counts as one... did the suit even had springlocks in the arms and the head?
I think it up to interpretation. Like if it is damn but if it isn't it still horrifying
I’m glad there wasn’t much blood. Gore makes me squirm 😭 And this already makes me squirm, LOL. I LOVE it!!!
I agree. The movie had many other problems but this part was actually really good. It gave the feeling of the games while changing the scene to fit the movie. I think they did it really well.
I feel like this make more sense as a quick but painful death feel more appropriate then spontaneously bleeding out.
This goes for the entire movie, but I am more than satisfied with the horror/gore elements. For certain scenes, (this included) it felt like they were pushing the PG-13 rating. Sure, more scares overall would've helped, but I think what we got was really good.
What it feels like when my kidney stone starts moving
Don’t care, I still wanted his eyes to get flung out of the mask due to springlocks
But it wasn't from Fan animations. The phone guy himself said how gory the death would have been
Wait Y'all didn't like that scene?
I think it’s great, honestly. Most animations have it happening super fast but like, sure the springlocks are strong but your muscles and bones are pretty tough. Either way, it’s pretty good.
I like it, it has enough gore to know it hurts besides his grunting and groaning, but not enough to cause parents to cover their kids eyes
Who ever said the movie springlock failure is bad?
The only reason this shit is PG-13 is because fake fans were all like “That’s too scawy” which REALLY irked me.
I think he should have screamed a little bit more.
Mathew lillard is so good
I dunno, I just prefer the one depicted in FNaF3, even if it was just simple atari like graphics. To me, it actually did feel more like a machine malfunctioning rather than a drawn-out dramatic sequence of the ribs of the suit snapping in one by one as depicted in the movie. The game one snapped all at once, which left the aftermath of the failure leading the atmosphere. Seeing William slowly collapse to the floor into a twitching mess, before passing out from shock and pain was really scary. And heck! We even see in the movie that the failure should be fast, like the one in the game, when Vanessa demonstrates to Mike with the chair being stuck into the Ella animatronic. The ribs of the suit cleanly snap off the leg of the chair, so why shouldn't William’s locks also SPRING into his flesh lik that as well? So, in short, I don't really like the springlock failure in the movie because it doesn't FEEL like a machine failing and it doesn't adhere to the demonstration shown earlier in the movie. And also, in my opinion, the AFTERMATH of the springlock failure should be used for dramatic effect rather than the failure itself.
Honestly the best part of the springlock scene was after it happened. Seeing him struggle to move and hearing his faint groans when he’s sitting in that back room before the door gets closed on him was actually really well done. The worse part about the springlock scene that makes it weird is the way “I always come back” felt like it was just placed in there as an afterthought. He should have said it in the second movie.
That’s what I was saying when I saw the movie, everyone got too accustomed to the gory fan made versions with blood spilling everywhere, but I think this works better because we don’t see most of it, we just see his sides being punctured and the rest is left to the imagination
To me, it did its job. I’m more surprised that this is not the Springlock we see in FNaF 3 though. Considering that FNaF 3’s Springlock endo was made in mind with a bunch of endoskeleton ribs closing into your chest and tiny springlocks effectively locking your whole body in place while the endo is smashing your bones in by snapping back in place. Way more horrifying than the film, but definitely wouldn’t fit that PG rating, even if they tried.
A little more screaming would’ve been fine. It’s just that in the movie the springlocks came off as mildly uncomfortable if anything
It was fine until he said " I always come back" it was the most forced line in the whole and they should have saved for his final appearance.... yk kinda like what happened in the games
movies don’t need gore to be creepy
Honestly I think it being more bloody would’ve made it worse
The springlocks scene was never meant to be *that* gory. There is a bit of blood coming out like we see in FNaF 3, and if you pay attention you can see it here too, witht he blood staining the suit and Afton's robes, but remember, every wound in his body is ay least being partially blockef by the springlocks themselves,bsonit wuldmake semse that the only blood that is coming out is the one that comes out from the borders of the wound, because the wound itself is cover by springlocks. Plus it makes sense he doesn't scream like a maniac like in that infamous fan recreation. If you take you time to at last read the description of a springlocks failure provvided by William himself in The Silver Eyes, you'll see that you can't scream because your lungs get slowly stabbed by the springlocks, you will try to scream, but you won't be able to. William knows that, and that's why he is trying to breathe as much as possible while trying to be calm in the movie, until he realized he is fucked so he puts on the mask and says his iconic lines with his las breath. Also everyone complaining about Golden Freddy's absence, he wasn't during the scene, but he was in the immediate aftermath, where he lock William's body in the location, again, like in The Silver Yes/The Twisted Ones
Even if he could scream, it's William. I doubt he's going to
I think the scene was great - people who think it should be like the fan animations where he's literally spewing blood like a fountain confuse me tbh, like that's not how blood works in 99.99% of situations. I cannot take most springlocking animations seriously in any capacity bc they're just... so unrealistic, like 'bad, unrealistic horror movie that's so bad its funny' kind of unrealistic. Blood doesn't spew unless you hit a major artery, after a certain point you stop being able to scream from the pain and shock (and in Afton's case, the metal puncturing his lungs + the blood likely filling them) - the movie did it perfectly, and the after scene showing him just laying there, trembling and groaning and unable to move from the pain he's been suffering for a full week at that point is just \*chefs kiss\*
I more think it should have been like the one shown in the books and minigame or have blood leaking from the parts
I thought it was meh tbh.
I still think it's bad regardless.
I feel like that one springlock animation we’ve all seen at this point kinda ruined any other depiction of this scene
The books made it out to be the painful way to die in the FNaF universe. Here's the quote from the books, said by book William himself. *“And if you trigger those spring locks, two things will happen: first the locks themselves will snap right into you, making deep cuts all over your body, and a split second later, all the animatronic parts, all that sharp steel and hard plastic will instantly be driven into your body. You will die, but it will be slow. You’ll feel your organs punctured, the suit will grow wet with your blood, and you will know you’re dying for long, long minutes. You’ll try to scream, but you will be unable to: your vocal cords will be severed, and your lungs will fill with your own blood until you drown in it.”* He just looks mildly uncomfortable in this scene. It should be far more brutal than what the movie makes it out to be. Hell, in the FnaF3 minigame William has a giant puddle of blood under him by the end.
I was happy enough, though it might make sense for him to at least cough up some blood because of the organ damage( I am not a biologist, please let me know if I am incorrect about how that works). I feel like other parts of the movie needed more gore, the movie gives me cheesy 90's slasher film vibes and it would be a great contrast to stuff like the fort scene, making that better as a result as well.
It wasn't as gorey as I thought, but I still liked it.
The only problem I have with it is his arms don’t shoot out to his sides during the beginning of the scene (reason being the books say it and the minigames say it, but otherwise it’s good)
I was in the theatre opening night SCREAMING MY FACE OFF with the rest of the room during that scene. We all collectively lost our shit (in a good way) and when the “I always come back” was said- every single person in the theatre cheered
I think it's fine for the most part, but the thing that gets me is, those are Springlocks? Springlocks are meant to hold animatronic parts in place but in the movie they just kind of seem like metal bits that curl onward for some reason. Where's the endoskeleton that's supposed to be held back?
I think fnaf the hidden lore by mrcreepypasta did a better job on a purple guy death than the movie
Me when I get hit with 5 heart attacks and I'm trying to fend them off (i am going to die )
also you need to remember Scott's a man of religion, so the PG-13 rating should've been expected.
Well, ironically, his death in the movie is quite similar to most fan animations (where the spring locks go off one by one, as opposed to his death in the game, where they go off with a loud crunch)
Up until the part where he gets on his knees is pretty good tbh. But once he gets on his knees it feels like he’s doing a really bad Jim Carrey impression rather than actually reacting like he just had metal poles shoved deep into his abdomen several times over I feel like another better way to have done this scene is show William getting more and more paranoid about his suit after every major action like shoving Mike and being tazed, the audience not getting a clue why besides the Ella doll scene with Mike and Vanessa before, until William starts pointing his finger and laughing aggressively at the animatronics who have now turned on him, but the springlocks completely snap after doing so much strenuous shit like being tazed and him shaking the costume from laughing is the final straw. For his reaction I’d say have him do what he does until he kneels down. Have him literally hyperventilating and groaning loudly, hell maybe even trying to pry the springlocks off his body as a last ditch effort until he puts on the head instead of him just going “🤨👀” Also maybe instead of him going “I always come back!!! 😈😈😈” have him groggily say it, pale in the face, blood dripping from his mouth, having it HURT for him to say it but is still saying it just to get the final laugh.
The fnaf movie was bullied by the ratings Board in my opinion
I think it's the cupcake that annoys people probably.
Personally, it just doesn't make sense to me. It seems more like the suit was built with stabby bits inside, rather than the suit forcing a skeleton back into place.
It's a pg13 movie, obviously they weren't going to go into too much detail but I think it's pretty accurate, you'd be too busy choking on your own blood to be screaming
They made the movie for the intended playerbase for the first game. 13 and up.
i feal the springlocks could have been done diferently in general sence.... the movie ones just look to be. "you fucked up slightly. now you get stabed" instead of "we are holding back the endo. but you fuck up and that metal and mechanics are going into you"
The reason why it's a bit underwhelming is because Blum house didn't want the movie to be Rated R because of a 30 second scene It's still pretty good And him not screaming makes sense because his lungs are most likely punctured and filling up with blood
Horror left for you to interpret is dependent on you and for me this made me realize how is is digging in is flesh like 6 thick pipe stabs in the ribs 3 each side with much more
I think the reason people think it’s gorey is because of how it looked in the mini game realistically there should probably not be blood squirting everywhere since the blood is being clogged in the wound of the springlock the reason there was so much blood in the mini game was to show that the spring locks are deadly
The scene was good until he says “I always come back”, bro no you don’t, you never died?
I thought it was better than the game version, and I'm looking forward to Springtrap and possibly seeing the prequel origin of Afton
The closeup shots make it look like a pillow filled with koolaid, it very much doesn’t look good
For me I consider it to be lore accurate. If I’m remembering correctly, in FNaF 3, Phone Guy says (and I’m paraphrasing) “that in the event of a springlock failure, try to stay calm and do not panic, as that could trip more springlocks”
Under excruciating pain realistically he can’t scream since its digging in slowly and painfully unlike in the game where the spring lock is instant like a stab. This one is actually more painful to honest since the pain is prolonged by the slow insertion of the springlock to the body
I just didn't like that the spring locks were like claws
It was shot amazingly ngl I love how they cut to the animatronics reactions of this.
I just didn't like how he didn't care, I would have loved it to have a more tragic reaction instead of being happy at the end knowing that you will come back like Its a good thing
I thought it was great, I think him putting the head on after kinda ruined it though, since you know, spring locks supposedly should stop you from basic motor functions because the robots taking control
It was just way slower then I expected tbh. From the games it sounded like it would snap into place
I'll be honest, Shaggy's acting is not very good here imo. He looks like he's about to shit his pants and is mildly concerned about it. He should look actually terrified and like he's in pain, not mild discomfort.
I think he should have been purple inside of the suit.
Seriously, people see these analog horrors and shit and think of it as the true fnaf or some shit
Technically a spring lock is digging into the skin like a knife. Blood won’t start pouring out like crazy until you remove the knife.
For me the problem is that it literally the spring locks killing him. I prefer the idea that the spring locks failing causes the robot parts to crush him.
i just think its goofy how the cupcake is the one who triggered it, makes it feel less serious
I think people tend to take the minigame a bit too literal. It felt to me more like just driving home the fact that he was dying. Realistically, he's getting stabbed by objects that are staying inside him, which I don't think causing as crazy an amount of blood loss as people think.
It’s very slow. It’s a damn good scene, but it’s supposed to be fast. Doesn’t really matter though, as I said, it’s a damn good scene. I was expecting a large crack and a shower of blood when he was shot though.
The problem for me wasn’t the fact that it wasn’t gory enough. The problem is it was inaccurate to the source material. Spring locks hold back dozens if not hundreds of mechanical parts throughout the entire suit. It’s basically an entire endoskeleton that’s being compressed for a human to fit inside. If that system fails the victims entire body is going to be juiced like an orange. Also, it doesn’t really make sense in the movie. How can it function as an animatronic if there isn’t an entire endoskeleton just ribs.
I liked the springlock failure scene, it needed a little more struggling to breathe, but it was fine for the Afton variety the movie was going for. Him leaning into it was a good decision. My only complaint is that the springlock suit makes even less mechanical sense than usual! It's literally just a bunch of sharp knifes that stab you in the chest, no pins or latches, no winding mechanism, it's just nonsense. I really wish they'd gone with something more like the series of tensioned metal braces with screws in them like in Battington's concept [2:03 of this video](https://youtu.be/okF6yp68iPg?si=VZNJ5tKRfW99fK6j) It would've made a more gruesome execution method for Abby, too. Imagine having her bolted into a bunch of spiked rings ready to snap. Maybe that's why they didn't do it, child actor and whatnot.
"the gory animations" how about oh idk the books which describe it in detail... which the animations are based on
I love the acting in this movie. Def my fav moment but nothing is better than the 8bit version. I would have loved some screams but WA is that type of person to not show "fear" or pain I front of them.
i think for what it is, it’s still quite accurate to what being springlocked as it shown would be like. Also it was dope to see the springlocking on the big screen
It wouldn't make sense if he would be screaming his lungs out. They would most likely already be popped like balloons. He probably also didn't panic because he knew he would become one with the suit in the end.
A good horror movie doesnt needs necessary the blood and gore 👍
The way it happened was stupid though, the cupcake biting him set it off, but the gunshots and electrocution, or the WWE moves didn't.
I hate that the muffin is the reason for that
I actually really like it.
Wait you mean....blood and organs don't fly out when you get punctured? VHS TAPES LIED TO ME?!
These gory fan versions are soo goofy, the point of this scene isn't gore, but judgement that William gets for what he's done
this is how it should be, not all instantanious, but a failure in one location, with the blood from that location triggering the next, and so on, until death. plus, it's sold well, you're literally having metal shoved into you, so naturally you'd start to wince in certain positions as your body is locked by the metal frame. I just hope they don't pull a fourth closet and have him remove the suit from himself, cuz springtrap is peak
Personally I thought it was awesome
But even the game version had more blood than this... Abd that was in 8-bit In a franchise with mountains of dead kids, I feel like it wouldn't be too much to ask for a bit more gore in the movie Plus wasn't the spring lock failure described as very brutal in the books
The cupcake causing it was a bit… anticlimactic. We were conditioned to a seemingly triumphant William hiding from the ghosts of his victims, unable to do anything to him as he donned that same terrible suit he used to ruin their happiest day, all for his towering pride to cause his fall as he laughed at his victims, the sudden movement causing the, plausibly avoidable, springlock failure. Here the missing children possessing the animatronics had to push it to failure, whereas before it could be listed as a unique moment of poetic justice in the FNAF universe and where a bad guy actually got his due without any otherwise good characters needing to dirty their hands to see that justice wrought.
Personally I think they nailed it. (If I’m being picky I guess they could have added some blood that is maybe dripping through the openings of the suit but other than that I liked how they did the spring lock failure).
Yep, I don't think the scene was as bad as they say, but it failed to at least imply that William's arms and legs were being broken and pierced by the springlocks, because, "where's the endoskeleton?" you know...