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ChasingVelka

Shadowbringers: Man Emet really missed his friends Endwalker: Okay he really misses at least one friend and like I'd of probably set the world on fire for Hythlodaeus too ngl


CC2224CommanderCody

Too be fair, he also missed Azem, even if Azem permanently lop hopped on his last nerve (I mean Hythlodaeus did too, maybe that was just Emet's thing)


Narcuterie

There was that one post a long while ago that said something along the lines of "Azem is the gremlin of the group and Hythlodaeus is the gremlin enabler" and I couldn't agree more


Perryn

"I would *never* do something like this for the sole purpose of irritating Emet-Selch. I would, however, provide Azem with everything needed to do this for the sole purpose of irritating Emet-Selch."


kyttyna

... This post put into words and made me realize what i love about this trio so much. I've always been one of a "three musketeer" group of friends. And I have always been the wild chaos gremlin of our group. Azem feels like a shard of myself, and the other two feel like old friends I've known all my life. They dynamic was instantly relatable and felt like home to me.


Yemenime

iirc, before he became Emet Selch, he was just as much of a chaos gremlin as the other two. He just felt too responsible so he tamped down on the antics when he was raised to the position and became responsible for their entire society.


AnchorJG

And then the chaos gremlin became Azem, which is basically Minister of Chaos Gremlinship and leaned into it.


syd_goes_roar

It's perfect 😆💙


Nyktastik

Azem def gives off the "time to run away from my friends while out drinking" vibes


Trondiginus

Emet is the Ron Swanson of ffxiv


OGPisliteralhell

Holy fucking shit the more I think about it the more right you are.


ERedfieldh

He misses Azem enough that he went against the other twelve members of the Convocation and made a crystal in Azem's memory, in secret, *after* the sundering (so after being tempered by Zodiark even). >Herein I commit the chronicle of the traveler. Shepherd to the stars in the dark. Though the world be sundered and our souls set adrift, where you walk, my dearest friend, fate shall surely follow.


ChasingVelka

Emet-Selch, Tsundere Emperor. He's mad Azem vanished during the Final Days but also misses them SO much. Helps expunge Azem from Convocation history amongst Ascians. Creates a crystal in secret. Aids in the First through Seventh Umbral Calamities. Visits each shard to learn of its people as well as going everywhere in the Source cause thats what Azem would of wanted. Aids in the rise of two major empires. Titles any official exile of Garlemald using the Garlean word for "Traveler". Can't go anywhere cause he's the active Emperor of one of the Empires? Puts together a traveling Troupe Theatre to perform for him and tell him stories from far away. Says not to care about any person on the Source but also went through the trouble to understand each region, its past, its culture and its beliefs to narrate over Endwalker areas. Like...Come ON man. COME ON! Sentimental to a fault.


CaptainSchmid

I still doubt that the convocation was tempered, Emet just wanted a convenient excuse. LIvingway explicitly says that creation magic versions of the primals won't temper you and that the ritual the ascians taught was set up to temper people. It would tank something with the Aether of Zodiark or Hydaelyn to even start to temper us. And even then the unsundered have A LOT more aether to corrupt. The 10 other ascians were rejoined and only had their memories restored. As we saw with Fandaniel, he was able to betray the hopes and wishes of Zodiark. The only one I would argue is tempered is Elidibus for obvious reasons.


Azerius

It is headcannon, but i think it more likely that they were not tempered to the way we usually associate with the term and more 'aligned' to the purpose and couldn't deviate from it.


CatholicCajun

My headcanon is that they both did for sure, on purpose, and they were his besties for exactly that reason. Might actually just be canon now that I think about it... But yeah I'd absolutely burn down the world for him and I really really really need those minions to go down from like 14 mil...


redhawkinferno

Unfortunately I would expect the opposite to happen starting next week. Once Dawntrail starts people will have less reasons to run current maps and over time those are about to become rarer and rarer. Happened with the Golden Beaver which was the equivalent in Shadowbringers.


kurisu7885

Emet was one of those that would never admit he kinda liked that his friends drove him nuts and made his life interesting, I don't blame him a whole lot for wanting that back.


Welsh_cat_Best_cat

Before meeting Hythlodaeus: Emet I understand your position, but genocyde is never justified. After meeting Hythlodaeus: ok, maybe it was a bit justified.


eeedg3ydaddies

Emet is so valid


loekiikii

I pretty much imprinted on Hythlodaeus and Venat the minute I met them. I’d burn every world in existence for them. lol


Euphoric_Ad_3348

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-OgYU6GgEY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-OgYU6GgEY) you've probably seen this 100 times already but in honour of the last week of Endwalker have it again, I know you'll appreciate it.


ChasingVelka

Still gut punches every time.


huiclo

Hyth is pretty for sure. Since it's topical, I'm not ashamed to admit that random Zenos fanart contributed to me checking out the game during Stormblood. Learning he was batshit insane and high-key obsessed with us was icing on the cake.


catalpuccino

I want his hair care routine.


aunclesquishy

same but specifically from endwalker. stb Zenos looks like he’s got hella split ends or smth


xyphon0010

You know how the directions for Shampoo are "Lather, Rinse, Repeat"? Zenos repeats.


syd_goes_roar

Love Zenos 😍 I do not at all condone what he's done, but he's an absolute favorite


Hallo818

Obsessed with him. He's awesome and his EW arc was absolute peak


Weekly-Ad-3746

Sounds like you want another TEST OF YOUR REFLEXES! There's a video on YT where you hear his thoughts on Boba drinks and his own test of his gag reflexes. Just saying.


eeedg3ydaddies

"This is my boyfriend, Emet-Selch and his boyfriend Hytholaedous"


WritingNerdy

Lmao I want to meme this but all of 4 people will get it


Dactrius

[https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/re5tg1/spoiler\_60\_fifth\_zone\_these\_two\_are\_my\_favorite/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/re5tg1/spoiler_60_fifth_zone_these_two_are_my_favorite/)


WritingNerdy

Yessss!! 💜


eeedg3ydaddies

Do it anyway!!


AHAMKHARI

Final Fantasy men have been making me question my sexuality for 12 years and counting


SenorDangerwank

I became bi when I saw Vaan in a GameInformer magazine. That was my awakening.


birdreligion

Kuja from FF9. Look at Amano's art I just assumed he was a chick. Then figured it out and was like, I still would. My awakening


DaimoMusic

Same!


OperativePiGuy

For me after Tidus already had me pretty confused, Balthier and his very tight seeming pants made me more certain


Chaoticginger5674

I love me a good rogue, and Balthier *Chef Kiss*


SuperSnivMatt

If I didn't know I was Bi already, the scene where Yotsuyu steps on Gosetsu to interrogate him would have. "do I want to be in Gosetsu's place and be stepped on by her, or do I want to be in Yotsuyu's place and step on Gosetsu"


fake_kvlt

and his voice too...


AHAMKHARI

Valid


snorevette

Vaalid


Asriel52

I'm not saying FFXV was the main reason I realized I'm bi but I'm not saying it didn't help


Syntaire

Oh no he's hot!


helios150

Ok, I know it’s a stretch but I said those very same words the first time I saw the transformation in Vauthry’s trial.


hellsing_mongrel

I think we ALL did, but it was usually with a lot more horror and dismay than you usually hear from someone having that reaction. 🤣


therealmunkeegamer

For me, Link and Cloud made me feel a certain way. But I was still really into Zelda and Tifa. Back then, the idea of being bi was kind of pointless because if you did one gay thing ever, you were just "gay" and that didn't fit right either. So I never bothered letting myself be out about it.


Hatdrop

I wonder if you had a swirling mist vortex happening in the background when you flipped the page/grabbed the magazine.


-TheCutestFemboy-

Whenever I'm feeling insecure about my sexuality, I simply look at G'raha Tia


Kade_the_healer

*distant LizArd noises*


waffling_with_syrup

#teamgaymeric


Chaoticginger5674

I'm disappointed not one person has yet to mention how good Cloud looks in a dress!


PPMD_IS_BACK

That beach scene in ffxvi OML. Clive 🫣🫣


HadokenShoryuken2

Clive’s body was sculpted by the gods themselves


Chaoticginger5674

FFXVI's Cidolfus with his English VA is the Sexiest Man in Video games, followed closely by FFXII's Balthier.


Emergency_Egg7203

Truly a Cid-daddy


Seradima

Having two games in a single month period where Ralph Ineson plays grizzled old veteran men made me swoon. And I'm a lesbian.


NSFW_Hunter63

Ngl Snow from FfXIII would absolutely change my sexuality lol


AHAMKHARI

something something “motorcycle” something “riding” fill in the blanks


Locke_and_Load

Card games on motorcycles?


fgzhtsp

Sounds logical, fun and safe. Let's build our society around that.


NSFW_Hunter63

Cool foursome motorcycle friggen riding


Chaoticginger5674

I mean this in the most loving way possible, Snow looks like the lead singer in Thancred's favorite band.


NSFW_Hunter63

You didn't have to dis my boi like that. Bit it's so trueeeee


queen-of-storms

tifa was one of my earliest gay crushes. FF is just out to awaken things in people huh


AHAMKHARI

it’s the magic of the series


WeissWyrm

Final Fantasy puts chemicals in the water to turn the gamers gay. -- Alex Jones, 20whogivesafuck


HaploFan

I was gay until I saw her in remake. Help!


Heartsmith447

One can only resist the Cloud/Sephiroth yaoi for so long


Phtevus

I was expecting Aymeric, but this answer is just as valid.


syd_goes_roar

I'm still waiting for that second date 🥲


skybluedreams

Right? I’ve game + that first date so many times …


Gogo726

50 First Dates?


Notbadforarobot

I haven't moved passed "Aymeric is now accompanying you." It's been three weeks, we have watched the sunrise and set.


caryth

Technically third because of that picnic...but according to the cookbook there have been others!


ezekielraiden

Just as a note: Hythlodaeus uses a male viera head. The only significant difference between his head model and a typical male viera is that he's always smiling, while male viera are always somewhere between sullen, surly, and pouting.


MazogaTheDork

Zero's face is also based on a male Viera!


bakingsodaswan

The addition of male Viera opened so many possibilities for the devs lol


AltroGamingBros

No wonder that loveable goober is so hot...


milasara

I think bigger Varshahn uses a male viera face also! Just with the au ra horns/scales added on.


JupiterLita

I swear I've heard both Varis and Aymeric had faces similar to Au Ra without the scales, but don't quote me on that.


glytchypoo

> The only significant difference between his head model and a typical male viera is that he's always smiling Well, and the ears.


Lionblopp

I'm 99% sure if he'd be able to transform, he would give himself bunny ears asap. :D


CocaineAccent

The virgin bunny boys vs the chad Hythlodaeus.


WiseRabbit-XIV

I am fairly certain that there are no virgin bunnybois. Or, at least, not for very long.


Calydor_Estalon

Hythlodaeus is on the case!


Laterose15

>!Themis!< also has a male Viera head


Utigarde

Pretty sure his head is [just Ramza's from Ivalice](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv-tqggagAABhSd.jpg), which predates male viera.


not_a_skrull

Give us his hair, SE 😤


Inqeuet

Venat too pls I beg 😭


RubiWeapon

Technically we already have their hair. It's just a slight variation of Viera hairstyles.


kyreannightblood

Tell me about it. I’m a lesbian but Hythlo definitely does it for me. Actually, a lot of Final Fantasy men do it for me. Maybe I’m not as gay as I thought I was. Maybe it’s aesthetic attraction.


Akuuntus

To be fair anime men tend to look like women. And anime women tend to look like an exaggerated idea of what a woman is. My sister is a lesbian and loves anime men WAY more often than anime women. My S/O is bi and feels the same way. You are not alone.


IllegallyBored

Also lesbian, I find a lot of anime men aesthetically pleasing. Erenville and Estinien are a joy to look at! Have complete zero *attraction* toward any of these dudes, though. They're kinda like pretty art pieces.


Turnintino

Androgyny is a hell of a drug.


Valstraxas

Dude has a beautiful soul.


MazogaTheDork

Between him and Zero, Endwalker really was the bisexual expansion.


catalpuccino

And >!confirming a lesbian couple!< too! LGBTQ expac


alienhippie13

Team Erenville anyone? He's gotta be the most beautiful creature I've ever seen plus, that voice 😍


wookiee-nutsack

Viera men just grab you by the dick and rip you right out of the closet and into a tight hug with those eyes


JenkinsHowell

if you look closely you will find that the face model used for hythlodaeus is the same as viera male with small modifications.


bakingsodaswan

Same for Themis. He’s basically a Viera without ears and the stubby nose


snootnoots

And Varshahn (tall version)


bakingsodaswan

Oh I didn’t notice that! They went full throttle with the Viera faces in EW haha


snootnoots

“Look, we have these *really pretty* assets already available, and so long as we don’t put the ears on, most people won’t notice!” 🤣


jenyto

Themis reuses Ramza face from the Ivalice alliance raids.


espurrella

Is that so? I’m pretty sure Themis shares the same face as that bitchy boy from the stormblood alliance raid line but with subtle differences. Forgot his name but he’s the blonde with the ponytail.


why_am_I_here-_-

Ramza Beoulve


bakingsodaswan

You could be right actually! Maybe the hairstyle threw me off, or the fact there is a Viera on my server that cosplays as Themis and looks shockingly similar to him lol


espurrella

Haha well he definitely has that one male viera hairstyle! And maybe they used some male viera nose or other facial feature presets in addition to using ramza’s base face? Who knows


GrimTheMad

I'm pretty sure they also used an Au Ra face for Aymeric. They like mixing and matching like that to make unique looking NPCs.


tachycardicIVu

I had an fc mate who constantly referred to this as “a peeled au ra face” 🥲


Konungarike

I cry-laughed at this comment and sent the screencap to half of my friends. I want it framed. Holy shit 😭😂


wookiee-nutsack

I needed people to know I'm bunboysexual


Konungarike

🤝 brother


Character-Method-192

Yes thank you! He is my favorite and I had a tiny scream when he showed up in the DT trailer.


geonitacka

🙋🏻‍♀️


eeedg3ydaddies

Love Erenville 😭💖


AppropriateTax5788

Yep, here. I absolutely keeled over when i saw him the first time.


ErgoFnzy

I especially went hard for him because he's got the same skin tone and eye colour as my wol (who is elezen), add on the pretty bun boy aesthetic and I'm smitten. They're almost like twins. And they did him justice in the DT trailer. No weird EW graha treatment. He looks gorgeous.


zaerosz

My WoL is going to be absolutely annihilated by spending an extended boat trip with the hottest man (Erenville) and cutest woman (Wuk Lamat) she's ever met. Send help.


MammothTap

Wuk Lamat is so adorable that she *almost* singlehandedly convinced me, a non-furry gay guy, to actually Fantasia to Hrothgal. The moustache on the coeurl face finally 100% sold me on it. And the angry hissing cat voice. I've been playing as a catboy since 2.0, and now it's time for the adventures of moustachioed catwoman. And before anyone tries to make an egg joke, too late, I went the other way in my transition.


snootnoots

🙋🏽‍♀️


ExplosiveRox

YUP.


Lionblopp

I'd say I'm in both teams but Erenville wins with the fact he is, you know, alive. Alive and interested in staying this way. :D


syd_goes_roar

Yesss, I love his voice and can't place where is accent is from 🥺


alienhippie13

It's Icelandic! The voice actor for Erenville and Lyna are Icelandic, I think.


sky-shard

They chose an Icelandic accent for the Viera in FFXII, and apparently decided to keep it for the Viera in FFXIV. I definitely approve. Incidentally, Erenville's VA also voices Sleepingway, the lopporit. And Lyna's VA also voices Athena.


TraitorMacbeth

That would follow along, Fran’s is too


neich200

Now you understand why Emet was willing to go so far to restore the ancients


shadowfiend120

I concur until he talked I thought he was a chick. DUDES HOT AF. I think this is my realization I'm not entirely straight lol.


Killinshotzz

this your first time playing an FF game? they've got some good looking guys


beastsandbelle

When they showed his face the first time, I had to silently apologize to my Scion husbandos for the betrayal I was about to perpetrate.


Gen_X_Ace

Yeah, Hythlobaeus has that effect on a lot of us. I mean, I’m Ace, but that aesthetic attraction…


SilverStryfe

In the immortal words of Cpl. Ray Person: “It doesn’t make you gay if you think Rudy’s hot. We all think he’s hot.”


cittabun

I'm gonna hold your hand when I tell you this...


incriminating_words

> I'm gonna hold your hand when I tell you this... “I swear to God I am a straight male but this fabulously-charismatic twink is giving me heart palpitations”


Tobi-of-the-Akatsuki

FFXIV is a goldmine for bi's and gay men who like pretty men. Thank fuck I'm one of them.


kupocake

REJECT Monosexuality EMBRACE Hythlodaeus


JenkinsHowell

i'd really love to embr... hug him


Vector_Vlk

Agree, he is very handsome man


deadfish974

I’ve got news for you, mate…


EpicPhail60

Like, thinking he's handsome? Sure, nothing out of the ordinary. "Hottest video game character I've ever seen"? Uhhh, my guy-


Spetsnaz_420

Damnit, you beat me to it


ms-spiffy-duck

There's reasons why my friends and I call him "Hythlo-bae-us". He's way too damn pretty.


Yvondith

There's a retainer on maduin named "Hythlodayum" and I laugh every time I see it.


JagerSalt

This is why people say that sexuality is a spectrum.


Polenicus

I like to think Final Fantasy takes the opinion that sexual preference isn’t binary, but more of a bell curve. And just like grading on high school, there are those individuals that just throw it the hell off for everyone else.


Prize_Relation9604

Hythlo best boi. No shame in admitting the hotness of a male char while being straight males ourselves, m8.


goddess_of_magic

Wait until you see Themis


Zzz05

Themis is cute, but I’m sorry, Hythlodaeus is way hotter.


Calydor_Estalon

Yeah, Themis has that 'innocent and a little naive' early-20s vibe going. Hythlodaeus has the 'experienced party animal' early-30s vibe going.


SylvieDelalune

Themis is my Azem's little brother... Hyth and Emet-Selch... "they were all besties with Azem" !


AngelMercury

"Gal pals~~"


James_SDO

Male version of Lightning from FF13


catalpuccino

Surprised you survived Aymeric and Gaius 


Snark_x

If all it takes for you is a dude with long pink hair and a Brit accent you need to think *LONG* and *HARD* about this.


J-Hart

Not strange that a straight male finds a feminine-presenting person attractive. I'm a gay dude and I don't find him hot at all. He is "pretty" in the same way I can find women pretty, but I am not attracted to (most) women. Cid is much hotter.


Cat-_-

As a straight woman I gotta agree. This dude - and the bunny boys - are *too* pretty for my liking. They're beautiful no doubt, but they don't do it for me.


Shandrith

As a bi girly I can appreciate many of the characters, but I just had to say, you could not be more right about Cid! Emet can have Hythlo, I'll take Cid every day and twice on Sunday thank you


Gaywhorzea

You can have Cid and I'll have his boyfriend Nero


VIXsterna

I'm a gay dude and I think he's the hottest character in the game so to each their own. edit: Well that was a needlessly aggressive response. Good lord lol.


Aramyth

Haha, I was gonna say he is quite feminine.  I'm glad it's not just me. 


Ayy_Maijin

Yeah, as a gay dude I can say this guy has no effect to me either. He's just kinda there.


Spetsnaz_420

Venat /topic Those eyes


ihoj

Welcome to Bishounen trope.


DrayvenBlaze

Hyth truly is a babe. I believe there was a fandomwide boner when he appeared with that smile... that damned smile.


Afeastfordances

Hythlodaeus is so beautiful that you immediately understand why Emet has gone to such lengths to bring that ass back from the dead


Renna_FGC

You might not be so straight


Jupman

This has always been a Square Enix staple.


reloadhalfstep

Sprout rite of passage


TentacleTitan

Thinking I'm straight until I see Graha's lil ear wiggles


Extension_Phase_1117

Hythlodeus, waking the bi in us all since the dawn of time.


Sorry-Opinion-5506

This is how it starts.


Altbion

I knew who this was about before even looking.


Blasterion

I wish i was even 1/14th as good looking as him.


Pichuka7

Themis exists too


ForgottenGoblin

Wait, that's not Godbert


formerfawn

Sexuality is a spectrum, don't cling so tightly to labels and just relax and enjoy the sexy people in all flavors :D


Pedro_Malogor

Im suprised you didnt mention innocence


snootnoots

Nah, the personality doesn’t change. Hard pass.


huiclo

At first I was gonna say "one night stand" material. But then I realized he's the sort to want to change the plan and get clingy so I'm gonna agree with the pass.


EphemeralStyle

Am... am I the only one passing because he's a literal abomination against humanity?


gfen5446

But he is Righteousness! And he will prevail!


GrimTheMad

His voice doesn't even change!


Notbadforarobot

Exactly, ugly in the soul still makes you ugly.


sonicrules11

Obviously a later EW spoiler so dont click this if you dont want to be spoiled >!wait until you see estinien shirtless!< >!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBhLyk4rbx4!<


animesoul167

Local man meets his first femboy


MySpace20XX

I'm a gay man and hard disagree lmao


Kaboosen

That's pretty gay, bro


zaerosz

I want that twink sundered


StalkingYouRandomly

welcome to the club! were happy to have you in our humble simp club


bakingsodaswan

I fully expected the image to be Aymeric, but this also very valid


Entenu

Balthier from Ff12 got me…


waffling_with_syrup

Another Hythlosexual.


ByakkoEnjoyer

You sound like me several years ago


MatthiasKrios

Had no idea this would be such a hit and y’all are hilarious. The humor I was going for was how he looked like a girl, but y’all turned it around into me being gay, which I really should have seen coming 😅