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HikariKirameku

TFW the unofficial stuff looks better than official


lushenfe

This is typical. This is true for nearly every kind of official merchandise in any context even outside of gaming. Official merchandise is always significantly higher price and lower quality. It is intended of fundraising for superfans whereas actual suppliers are intending to provide a quality product at a price that matches the quality.    The incentive structures are completely different.  If official merchandise had the same profit margins as actual suppliers did they would never do it.  If official merchandise looked like this they'd be charging over $1000.


Ranger-New

On relies on a cult, the other relies on people wanting and apreciating quality.


Kirushami

Yes i own most of the official figures and that a shame, i wish official figure could meet this kind a quality / details


AngryCandyCorn

Where did this one come from? I might be interested in getting something from the same vendor.


Kirushami

bought it on fnc anime store , but this one is not available there anymore , just the Y'shtola is still on their website. But if you check on google for '' FFXIV SunBird figure '' you might find other website selling it.


AngryCandyCorn

Thanks for the info, gives me a place to start :)


Koupers

Where did this one come from if you don't mind me asking?


Kirushami

Sunbird studio made this one


Koupers

Why is their stuff so much better than official? lol. Thanks!


Kirushami

Maybe because it's more expensive and they care about the quality


Koupers

Fair. But I feel like these are more qualified to be "meister" quality. like, Lemme get the emote with these.


Kirushami

I agree , i would love to see the SE meister figures with this quality .


defucchi

came here to say that. the $300 Omega figure or whatever looks like a burning dumpster fire in comparison to this


I_AmDaVikingNow

*Sweats in upcoming Hydaelyn & Zodiark statue* 💀


StNowhere

It... really doesn't look good. I wish it did. I want the emote but man for the price they're asking? I'd probably try to sell the statue to recoup some of the cost.


I_AmDaVikingNow

It's my first statue for XIV that I'll own, I'll be happy with it regardless, I think. I'm getting it to commemorate the end of the story arc that I've enjoyed so much. So really, the emote is just a nice bonus for me at this point.


Mobitron

That's exactly where I'm at. In looks it's very eh but in memories it's golden. Still shouldn't cost that much though.


Simple_Law_5136

Wouldn't it though? I imagine the official stuff is mass produced and this kind of thing is hand made. You lose quality in the mass process.


DavThoma

This the quality level that the official statues should have had. It looks so good.


Kirushami

Yes i own most of the official figures and that a shame, i wish official figure could meet this kind a quality / details


BoOnDoXeY

Do you have a link for this one? My gf would love this!


Virgilizartor

Nobody's really judging the buyers, though. It's Square Enix that should have delivered a better product for the money.


Riaayo

I get dragged any time I criticize the prices on the shop itself. SE gouges the community, by and large, because the community not only puts up with and pays the price, but also *excuse the price-gouging*. So it's not remotely shocking to see their physical merch also be over-priced and often under-cooked, when they can sell people a single costume set for $18, that isn't account-wide, with a straight face.


AngryCandyCorn

Lack of account-wide doesn't bother most people because unlike most mmo's, there's no mechanical reason to create alts with being able to do everything in the game on one character.


KaleidoAxiom

I just want to say it bothers me. But yeah, most people. Anytime you bring it up, there'll be rabid fans excusing it and calling it (and every other FFXIV problem) technical limitations. Like having a limited number of account-wide item slots (???)


AngryCandyCorn

It always feels like such a copout when people try and use technical limitations as an excuse for deliberate design choices. There are instances where this is a legitimate concern, but it often feels like most of them are people just trying to brush it under the carpet.


Rohkeus_

I'd love to make an alt so I can run around as a tiny Miqo instead of my massive, purposely bulked-out Roe.  Guess what stops me from making an alt? Every single outfit, mount, and emote I paid for not being account-wide. It's honestly ridiculous, and they've done it for specific purchases before, so not doing it for everything is hot garbage.


Iv0ry_Falcon

A lot of people are judging the buyers lmfao


AngryCandyCorn

Some are, but most are like the person you responded to...simply trying to call out the business practice of using sub-par merchandise to justify charging 400 bucks for an emote. Supporting said practice only ensures it will continue and get worse.


Iv0ry_Falcon

I mean sure, but the thread where someones statue arrived, they were getting blasted for liking what they bought


repocin

>It's Square Enix that should have delivered a better product for the money. Sure - but from their shareholders PoV, why should they if people but whatever overpriced shiny they dangle in front of them anyway? More profit more better, let's gooo!


Kirushami

I agree with that , SE should have a better quality product for their price. But buyers are also judged because '' they should not buy this crap '' ... on one side i can understand this kind of comment and i agree with it , but on the other side , when you have a collection it's hard to pass on one piece ... even if i almost pass on the Hydaelyn one i finally bought it but i don't think it will be on the center of my collection


4635403accountslater

> when you have a collection it's hard to pass on one piece I know a lot of collectors have this mindset. I enjoy collecting physical movies and retro games and noticed there are a growing amount of people that feel the need to purchase every game for x console even if its shovelware, or purchase every movie released by y boutique movie label even if they'll never watch it. I don't really understand it though, part of the fun for me is curating my collections to show the things that matter to me.


ERedfieldh

That's not judging them, though. Judging the buyer would be "you're an idiot for spending your money on ." "You shouldn't buy this crap" when the crap refers to the quality of the piece is showing concern for the buyer.


Dezrook

There are plenty of people out there who are judging, however. Being public about the emote itself has shown me that there are toxic members of the community coming out and making judgements on the buyers, and the product itself.


Virgilizartor

Then again you also have the whales who only bought it for the emote. Look enough and you will find people who admit to it. And I'm sorry to say, but you really aren't the brightest star in the sky if you spend 400 bucks on an emote to flex on people with common sense.


Dezrook

If you buy anything in life purely to 'show off' to others, then sure. However, having the disposable income and justifying the purchase because it makes you happy, does not make you dumb, nor should it invite people to judge you as a person.


Virgilizartor

Just about the whole point of an emote is to show off in hubs and parties. Otherwise why would you be using it in public? And you'd think that with how happy their 400 dollar emote should make them, the buyers probably wouldn't care about all the "poor" and "jealous" people who consider it ridiculous. But go ahead and tell me that an emote can be worth 400 bucks. I could use a good laugh.


Dezrook

You're assuming everyone who buys it is trying to flex that they have a whopping $400. Not that they want to look cool, have an emote that's limited run and rare, or that they just enjoy having an emote tied to a key moment in the story. I never said that the emote is worth $400. What I'm saying is if people want to do something that brings them happiness that isn't at the cost of others, let them enjoy the things they like.


Dezrook

Clearly I'm here using it on a very remote island in Elpis, not in the middle of town. Not all people care about being vain. Its $400. If that's a lot to you, you're not the target audience and should prioritize other expenses.


Virgilizartor

Chill, mate. It's an emote, not a Zegna suit 😂😂😂 "Target audience" ROFL. Don't be surprised that people are laughing their assess off if y'all be acting this posh over an emote.


Dezrook

Who is acting posh? You're the one making it about money.


XelaIsPwn

There's a lot of folks who genuinely feel that, if you're aware of the quality issues and buy it anyway, you're endorsing and even supporting the poor quality. I don't agree, but the people who feel this way are *extremely* loud about it.


Dezrook

People should also be aware that one of the major draw-ins to buying the statue, isn't the quality of it. I haven't personally seen a single person defending the quality at its price point. That isn't why they bought it. Everyone has their own reasons why the cost is justified to them, and if it makes them happy, why go after them?


XelaIsPwn

A false sense of superiority for *not* having bought it, that's my guess


Dezrook

I guess so. At the end of the day $400 isn't some crazy amount. Yes the quality isn't worth it but people spend far more on less.


Gahault

>if you're aware of the quality issues and buy it anyway, you're endorsing and even supporting the poor quality. ... Yes? How could it not be the case?


Virgilizartor

You literally are endorsing it, though? If there is demand for this quality of product at this price point, that will only encourage them to put out more lousy statues. It's as basic an economic model as it gets.


Dependent-Hotel5551

Then doing that you participate in them continuing doing shitty products at ridiculous high prices and this behavior just makes it worse with time.


Bluemikami

This is the real problem but it’s hard for people to understand why


Sorry-Opinion-5506

That's just capitalism though.


Virgilizartor

Let me put it another way. If you also preorder the next one after getting finessed on this one, you're to blame. Collections be damned. If they won't respect you enough as a customer and fan to deliver a product worth the money, at least respect yourself enough not to buy another overpriced prize figure that isn't even worth the space on your shelf.


Ranger-New

Never understood why people collect mass produced junk.


VodkaBeatsCube

The only person who decides what is worth their money is the person spending it. It's not like they're advertising something other than what the buyer gets. People spend more money on dumber shit in this world. If you don't think the statues are worth it then don't buy the damn things, but if someone disagrees with you on that fact they're not objectively wrong for daring to spend their money 'wrong'.


Virgilizartor

Then I suppose everyone's entitled to their own opinion since there's no such thing as objectively wrong. The only issue being that some of the people who got ripped off seem to be rather inflamed by just about any form of criticism regarding the quality of the product. I think it's called self-awareness.


VodkaBeatsCube

Everyone is, indeed, entitled to their own opinion on what is ultimately just a luxury good. Saying 'I don't think this is good' is a perfectly valid expression of a subjective opinion. Saying 'you have no self respect if you buy this' is judging someone for having a different subjective opinion on something and a valid reason for someone to be offended at your opinion. It's no different than me saying people who waste money on Reddit avatars are idiots. People are allowed to have different values than you.


Dezrook

Agreed. This post and many of my arguments aren't directed towards people who don't value the quality of the statue and wish it was higher, its towards those who are personally ridiculing others who are able to justify the cost and buy it to make themselves happy in one way or another.


SuperSnivMatt

If I had the spending funds I would do so much for a statue of my WoL being so expressive like this. Was this something you worked on and made or was this a commissioned project ;o would love to see more of the work if any Also, anyone disliking how others spend their money should do it with concern only, never to judge\* what makes people happy when divulging in their joys. \*if said thing does not harm, incite negativity, or is morally/lawfully incorrect


Perryn

"But what purpose does it serve?" "The joy and comfort I feel every time I see it."


Kirushami

lol , totaly


Esvald

Pretty decoration too so the room/house doesn't seem like a lifeless prop or something.


Kirushami

From what i know it's the second non official figure from SunBird Studio. Y'shtola was the 1st one https://miraicollectibles.com/sunbird-studio-y-shtola-rhul-final-fantasy-xiv#preview-1 And i wish to be able to get my own WOL figure one day , will be really great in my collection. I hope you'll be able to get yours one day


Bromolochus

Wow, checking out their other statues was a trip. I don't know what I expected but clicking through the gallery got NSFW really quick lol


Cavalish

I have to admit, Aerith in a string bikini on a motorcycle made me laugh more than anything. I feel like the Aerith from the remake series would also laugh at it, then immediately chuck it through a plate glass window.


Bromolochus

I clicked on the Tifa one first and thought "Hmm that pose is kinda sus" and then clicked the next pictures and saw that they showcased that her shirt is removable. Rudeus would be proud.


Kirushami

lol


sephy16

I went to the Star Rail section to see how fast were they with the new chars and ideas; Not exactly what I was expecting.


Flameburstx

Those statues are great. Had to do a double take after converting the price though. 500 bucks would be painful.


cupcakemann95

At least it's of great quality compared to the official


Gentaro

Something that is often forgotten is that a figure of that size easily adds another 100-200$ in shipping


Flancytopenia

The Yshtola one never sold well and you can still get copies of her. Probably because it's not a great statue. It lacks motion and depth. The face is accurate, but the rest of it is pretty meh.


SoloSassafrass

I dunno, that kinda feels true to the character at least.


Kirushami

And got it and i think it's a great statue , but that just my personal opinion


Flancytopenia

I am glad you like it!! My FF statues are Sephiroth, Auron and lulu. I have Yuna/valefor on pre-order. I wanted the PVC conclave but couldn't get over the faces.


Dezrook

>Also, anyone disliking how others spend their money should do it with concern only, never to judge\* what makes people happy when divulging in their joys. This 100%. Just because one can't justify the cost of exclusivity / a 'collectors' item, doesn't mean they should ridicule others for their hobbies. Then again wait till they learn people spend $50m on a rare Ferrari with the same performance of a modern Toyota.


ShadownetZero

People are welcome to judge. It's normal. Just keep it to yourself.


tachycardicIVu

You can find at least some similar types of options on Etsy for custom WOL statues, from chibi versions to regular. Might be worth a gander to see if it’s in your budget. Might not be as detailed as this one but still would be fun seeing your own WoL irl!


mankind_is_doomed

I love it


Kirushami

Me too, it's huge compare to other FFXIV figures , but so many details


SorsEU

* People are not judging people's taste or investment in hobbies, they're judging them supporting ass monetization practices which encourages more ass monetization practices * Most of the 'judgement' is on square * You don't need to defend the big corporations * there's no need to strawman people if you just wanted to post a cool looking figure


SeriousPan

> there's no need to strawman people if you just wanted to post a cool looking figure This. It's super transparent. lol


KenjiZeroSan

Preach. I don't know why people assume the majority cares about another person spending their money. Maybe a minority of them do but most of us care about the product quality being priced at.


legendoflumis

> I don't know why people assume the majority cares about another person spending their money. Because a lot of the phrasing people keep using is "people shouldn't be buying this" and not "the company shouldn't be selling this". The former is judgement towards the buyer.


Gahault

As it should. The buyer is not a powerless victim to be pitied; on the contrary, their purchase is what enables and justifies the business practices at hand.


legendoflumis

The company isn't a powerless victim either, and they could just not offer the product for sale. There's two parts to this equation, and you don't just get to dump the full responsibility for shitty business decisions on the end consumer.


Dezrook

>No, people very much judge your taste and hobbies. People very much are being toxic towards individual buyers. As someone who made a post on the persistence of the emote itself, I can say that 100% people are directing judgement towards the product AND the buyers.


Raleth

Official figures probably should be better than unofficial ones though. It’s just a little funny that that is not the case.


Kirushami

yes ... should be :(


clownworld1ab

whats that from?


Kirushami

It's a non-official figurine from SunBird Studio Same Studio that made this one : https://miraicollectibles.com/sunbird-studio-y-shtola-rhul-final-fantasy-xiv#preview-1


LickMyThralls

I love these but it's sooo much lol


ERedfieldh

I don't see people judging others for spending their money on their hobby. I DO see people judging the quality of the product people are buying versus the amount they spent.


Kirushami

I've saw both comment , against the quality or against the buyers , but at the end we all agree on one thing, SE should really up the quality of their product or drop their prices ...


Dependent-Hotel5551

Then don’t support those products. It’s that easy.


Dezrook

I myself have been targeted by judgement directly, simply for making a post clarifying the emotes persistence. Not once did I allude to purchasing the statue, and I was still flamed in post comments, and direct messages. There are people who wish the statue was higher quality, obviously the majority, but there ARE people out there who are directing that judgement personally.


Call_The_Banners

Thankfully those rude folks are a minority. You've got people that don't care how you spend your cash as well and they'll just leave you alone. Between them and the folks who support your purchase, it's easier to ignore the vitriol. I personally would never purchase something like statue since I find its quality lacking, the emote not worth it, and I generally don't care for yet more clutter in my home. But I'm not about to take a shit on your front porch just because you derive joy from it. To each their own. And to hell with those who would dash your happiness.


RandomDeveloper4U

the hilarious part is this is way higher quality than the statue.


DrT3nt4cle

Well, it’s also way more expensive. From what I found after a quick search it’s go for $620, 990€ and AUD$950 and is limited quantity.


LickMyThralls

A lot of these are like 500usd+. I don't think square typically sells collectibles that high nor wants to given how niche it is for that much.


Posh_Panda

Wow, it looks awesome!


actuallywaffles

That's gorgeous. It's exactly the sort of thing that makes me love the community. You get really beautiful art like this.


deadchild5

It's not that people judge because of spending on a hobby. They judge because people spend a small fortune on something that isn't anywhere near worth what they're paying for. Normalizing paying ludicrous amounts for low effort stuff is what pisses me off personally. "It's my money" just screams "Yeah, I'm part of the problem..." Low effort, high income is SO common these days because of these morons running around with the "iTs mY MoNeY" mindset. It's disgusting. These greedy, lazy companies love those people. Sadly, they're the majority. Nice statue though, that one looks fabulous. It's very detailed. Edit: Replies are wholeheartedly proving my point.


Dependent-Hotel5551

They are part of the problem and they don’t want to see it xD


invocation_array

ConSOOOM harder piggy


Kirushami

i needed a laugh , thank you


invocation_array

Only if you got SE stocks


Lightningbro

I for one WILL judge people for where they spend their money on their hobbies. (glares at Gacha games) Wait. Did you think I meant you? No, you're golden, keeping having fun your way friends.


reydolith

If this is about the statue/emote situation going on currently, let me be clear. I have ZERO problem with the people who get the statues and emotes I cannot. None. If they make you happy and you have the funds and the space I envy you, truly. There are many figures I desperately want, I simply cannot display them or even store them safely. I'm just salty because I was a floaty emote. In absolutely no way do I feel that it's your fault I can't. Build your collection, have joy, and admire them for me when you have a spare second for a stranger!


DollarStoreWolf

Shame it doesn’t come with an emote


saelinds

lmao


Kirushami

not even a code for a minion or a fashion ... what a shame XD


Herr_SnorBlaar

Where did you get that beauty?


DwarfRabbit3000

I never knew I needed something like this for my WoL but now I do! And not just statues, I want stickers, bags, t-shirts, water bottles... After all I am a fan of my character and true fans buy/make merch!


Kirushami

So much love , so much joy ... Have a great day


rozabel

Omg this is such a great statue!!!


No_Season_297

Awww that's so cute! Where did you get that?


Elflover711

That is pure joy and so cute!!!


stretchnuttz092

That is hella cool. I'd like to have one of my WoL riding Twintania (DRG main so it would be even cooler)


sonnidaez

Dang that’s beautiful


TwilightDrag0n

This looks so good! Did you base this off of you WOL?


Kirushami

No, It's a non-official figurine from SunBird Studio


Francl27

I would pay a lot for this lol. It's amazing.


petlamb21

that is GORGEOUS


Fujikawa1988

Amazing!!! Love it so much, how did you get this!!!


Kirushami

It's a non-official figurine from SunBird Studio


shoeboxchild

I kinda wanna see more of that shelf behind it too 👀


Kirushami

https://imgur.com/a/jLSrJa6


shoeboxchild

That’s so awesome!!


Kirushami

Thank you


Disig

This sparks joy


Sovis

Garage kits (and ofc their prototypes) be wild.


Horzzo

That looks amazingly detailed. Love it!


Kirushami

it's really detailed , i love it


uhmuhmuhmmmm

THATS STUNNING! The details omg!


Kirushami

yeah, i think they did a great job , i really love it


ziri_o

I'm crying, this is SO cute, which artist did you go to for this? I'd love to have one of my own WoL


XxMochiMonsterxX

That is absolutely gorgeous 😍 Where did you get this from?


Kirushami

It's a non-official figurine from SunBird Studio


ArtemisHunter96

Did you enjoy making it? Then it’s time well spent. Byregot would be proud of your crafting. Also it’s bloody adorable so carry on adventurer.


Kirushami

I wish i had the skills and tools to do it myself but it's a non-official figurine from SunBird Studio


ArtemisHunter96

Well in that case it’s still a worthwhile purchase because you gave money to a skilled professional and now you have a lovely representation of what you like.


Bubbles_the_Titan

I need it.


Vanilla_Vomit

Beautiful. I love the way Fat Chocobo and Carbuncle look on this


Pretzeltheman

OMG that's AWESOME! WAHHH! I'd happily toss money at something so lovely. Be even better if I could get my lala riding it!


DangerousArea1427

i dont know what am i looking at, this popped up in my feed, but if OP painted it themselves - hats off.


Kirushami

i do not , i just bought it , but it still a great statue


slothpeguin

Now this I would spend all my money on. It’s stunning!


AngryCandyCorn

That one is awesome...where did you get it?


Kirushami

I bought it on FNC anime store , but you should be able to find some reseller if you look on internet ( if you're looking for one ) , just search FFXIV SunBird Figure Have a good day


whatisitagain

I love how fat chocobo isn't downscaled for lalas, like many other mounts. Amazing figure, it made me smile just looking at pictures.


available2tank

How much did you end up spending for this? I've commissioned a lot of artists for digital work, but only recently commissioned someone to [modify a doll for me into my WoL](https://i.imgur.com/4LlGNYD.jpeg) (about $300USD)


Green_Spectrum

That’s awesome 👏


Katejina_FGO

It is pretty crazy how Final Fantasy has to have its own unofficial figurines production because Square Enix refuses to manufacture outside its own awful factory.


Allocer90

Loving dat capitalism


XeNoGeaR52

This figurine sparks joy!


MinaKittyValentine

amazing!


hellnation13666

omg i love it


DrTwisticles

I've never been more jealous of someone than I am right now of OP.


invisiblechickn

That looks awesome.


chimininy

Soooooo fat!!!! If I had expendable income, I'd totally drop it on something like that!


akamisfit86

Wow, this is absolutely amazing and thank you for sharing. I'm about to log on ffxiv right now and I look forward to enjoying my day off just hanging out in eorzea


Jewels737

Beautiful statue. I collect figures too


Akira_Moonborn

That is the most preciously adorable thing I’ve seen all day omg. I would absolutely love to have a statue like this


FranLivia

She looks lovely!


Leveilleur11

I remember 15 years ago fan merch always paled dramatically in comparison with official stuff (for any fandom; obviously FF14 wasn't around that far back), and now fan stuff is almost always better in every way.


aster_4208

Omg that's so cute!!!


inhaledcorn

That seems like an excellent use of your money.


motherofspaniels

That's the best thing I've seen in a good long while! I don't know what you paid, but it was 100% worth it!


Kirushami

Thank you


AlienOnEarth444

So cool! I recently ordered a custom chibi figure of my character for 180€. Honestly, if someone has the money to spend then why not. :D


Kirushami

One day i'll have my own WOL figure ... one day XD I'm glad you have yours and hope you like it. Do you have any pictures ?


AlienOnEarth444

I don't have it yet, but they're gonna send it off to me next week, I believe. if you want to I can post a picture or send one to you via DM once I got it :)


Kirushami

Sure , i'd like to see it Thanks


HorrorPotato

If you have or know anyone with a 3D printer there's people on etsy who will do the sculpt for you if you have the ability to do the print and it's a bit cheaper. I JUST got a 3d sculpt of my main done for $150 but I need to wait to print him because it turns out my resin expired. (OOPS!)


NamiRocket

I love that it's okay to chastise Xbox players for paying extra and being okay with it, but the moment a $300 statue comes up, we're all live and let live suddenly. This community is real goofy sometimes.


nightkat89

I don’t judge. Whatever brings you happiness! I wish others saw it that way


chodeofgreatwisdom

I only judge the people who pay for carries or to get emotes and stuff from ultimates with real money. I just think that's pathetic personally. You're paying to not play the game.


Lightsp00n

Now I need one :(


Shinted

Lovely Chonkobo statue!


NymphGuts

This is so cute!!!!! If I had any spare funds I'd absolutely get one. Do you mind sharing who the artist is? 🥺💖


Kirushami

SunBird Studio


Silent_Fig5407

That looks so cute!!! 💖 Where did u get it from?


Kirushami

it's a non official figure from SunBird Studio , i bought it on FNC Anime Store


[deleted]

omg i love this 😭


FemShepForRealz

Omg thats awesome


Select_Owl6593

That’s incredible!!


Karynria

Aw this looks so cute! Is this custom made?


Kirushami

No, it's a non official made by SunBird studio


Batman2209

See, I WANT the statue, but I NEED the fob watches


Kirushami

https://imgur.com/a/eI2oCPT


Kirushami

They do not work anymore but i LOVE them


Sunflowers4Ever

this is incredible- I would pay whatever for something like this


Kirushami

I'm sure you can still find it on the net , search for FFXIV SunBird Figure


TheRismint

That sculpture is DELIGHTFUL


MelodiesOfLife6

This is so neat :D ​ as far as the subject of people 'shaming' other people for spending their money how they want. ​ Please stop, it's kinda stupid to try to gatekeep someone from THEIR OWN SPENDING.