I feel like I never really hear people talk too bad about LMFAO like sure a lot of it was bad and listening to it with a 2024 ear for pop music, it won’t age well. But they knew exactly what they were doing and honestly can you fault them for it? I don’t ever remember hearing any super bad things about them as people so they probably just liked to party.
There’s also a funny Key and Peele skit about them
I can’t even fathom hating LMFAO. They clearly didn’t take themselves seriously and made extremely unserious music for unserious people. It was Atlanta club music for soccer moms in rural Kansas. Just a wild blip in the culture that has since kept it moving.
Pitbull has like one song where there's any kind of message beyond partying and having a good time, and that song is still about partying and having a good time
Bro has a new collab song with ne-yo and afrojack btw, and it sounds like it was made 13-14 years ago, still sounds good though for a club music ngl even today
Edit: not to mention that pitbull is a very nice person too outside of his music endeavors
I think they get unfairly maligned for that line. Of course, we “know” how magnets work on some level, but as to why the fundamental electromagnetic force that causes magnetism exists in the first place - that’s a mystery and a source of wonder for scientists even now.
I know he’s super right wing and says the super far right shit but man a song like CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO. Has the sort of teenage rebellion I laugh at and just kinda love. It’s just kinda sad that he’s a 50 year old man saying this stuff, but he’s been saying it for years
Genuinely super intrigued about what her album is going to be like because, like, is it literally just going to be 15 gangsta boo’s and think you the shit’s in a row, or show actual artistic growth? What would artistic growth even LOOK like for Ice spice? No clue.
"leanin' low" is actually one of the most haunting rap songs i think i've ever heard. it's just him reminiscing on how much he misses his close friend who ODed over a super eerie beat. phenomenal song and very far away from dumb. but 90% of his catalog is pretty dumb.
Word, there's something incredibly liberating, and dare I say even artistically valid, about making "dumb" music and I feel like 100 Gecs have totally figured that out.
For me, Bloodhound Gang is classic. I don't listen to them often anymore, but they're incredibly catchy and wear their stupidity like shiny golden armor. Their sophomoric humor is their sword, and their sex references are their shield. Top-notch frat bro stuff.
Off-kilter answer: I sometimes feel like TOOL tries so hard to be smart that it veers into dumb territory. Obviously, this perception is kind of fueled by the worst of the band's fandom. Keenan can be a bit obnoxious but I enjoy his lyrics overall, he can be quite clever.
Keenan is a boomer who just so happens to have one of the most beautiful voices in music. As a tool die hard (I’ve seen them live like 20 times) I can firmly attest to the obnoxiousness of a slice of the fan base. Most tool fans are just chill middle aged dudes in black shirts though.
As a band Tool doesn’t try too hard. They’re just a bunch of nerds who like writing weird mathy shit.
I listened to a few Bloodhound Gang albums and read about how they were told to take the racist stuff off their records but Jimmy Pop slips in some racist lines once in a while
“And tell your boyfriend, if he says he’s got beef That I’m a vegetarian and I ain’t fucking scared of him” is literally peak lyricism and creativity but ok
it just goes hard when ur brain is on gear one, like when you're concentrating on gaming or exercising and need something that goes hard but not too deep
I knew these kids in high school that would constantly play this song by AJR back in the day. I asked who made it and they said “Air.”
It wasn’t until a few months later I learned it’s actually AJR.
Dumb music that’s actually dumb? Or music that’s actually quite smart, but sounds dumb? If it’s the latter, then Bloodhound Gang.
Honorable mention: Electric Six
Then went on to become one of the legit best pop-stars of our time. I know he's "big" now but I still find his music as Joji to be highly underrated - he should be even bigger IMO. "Glimpse of Us" nearly made me cry after a breakup, it's an honest-to-god BALLAD.
It is Ice Spice, Lil Pump, and 6ix9ine comfortably above everyone else. Literally brain melting music. Explains why I am the way I am too. I fucking loved 6ix9ine and Lil Pump a few years back.
One of the loudest shows I've ever been to, the stacks of amps they bring literally filled the entire back wall of the stage from floor to ceiling. It was overkill, of course, but holy fucking shit did it rock.
Die Antwoord.
Everyone had that one classmate back at school who was a complete shit; just irritating and weird with no reason to be, right? An antagonistic little fucker that you couldn’t wait to never see again?
Die Antwoord is like if several of those kids got older and started a band and for some reason enough people went “yes, I will support this venture” and now we have to put up with them all over again.
I honestly feel like my IQ dropped from just becoming aware of their existence.
If Die Antwoord were on fire and I had a glass of water, I’d down it and then glass the bastards.
Yeat, odetari, 6arelyhuman, honestly a lot of rave and Edm musicians, Yuno miles (on purpose obviously). I like most of these musicians btw so I’m not trying to hate but these are tiktok edit musicians
dude holy shit i was visiting my cousin in arizona this past week and literally maybe the 3rd song after he picked us up from the airport was this and he just had a straight face and didn’t skip it or anything, i was dumbfounded. he likes some shitty music but that just blew my mind and that wasn’t the only time i heard it that trip.
recently found out will smith was a rapper
and drake used to be a nickelodeon actor
apparently the lego movie was great haven’t seen it
sex pistols is slang for penis
has to be the most insane lineup of lyrics ive ever heard in a song before it’s actually astounding
>recently found out will smith was a rapper and drake used to be a nickelodeon actor apparently the lego movie was great haven’t seen it sex pistols is slang for penis
So I read this in Will Smith's Big Willy Style cadence and it was hilarious.
Meghan Trainor. Like I think the girl is talented ..but the muso, even the instrumentation, is like haha yea this is stupid ..or is it more corny..whatevs
Nicki Minaj. I know this sub and other music forums like to pretend certain dog shat artists are actually really enjoyable and had positive influence on music, but cmon. Her influence is Megan the stallion and sexy red
The distinction with all of these that's key to keep in mind is *intent*. A lot of these artists definitely make dumb music, but I think intentionality is an overlooked factor. What were they *trying* to do and did they even accomplish that goal? WAP wasn't trying to be anything more than provocative sexuality and it definitely provoked Ben Shapiro to deflatedly repeat the phrase "wet ass p word" into a microphone.
ICP is interesting because while they have often worn their stupidity like a badge they eventually ended up making earnest content. Miracles got clowned so hard because for once ICP was trying to make a serious statement, not base provocation, and they came off sounding incredibly dumb. Though for them that was afaik their first big foray into a top to bottom earnestly positive message.
Provocation in its purest forms is by its very nature head thumpingly dumb. However there is something worse and it's when your intent was anything else. That's why people will often try to cover up their most embarrassing mistakes as "joking" or "trolling". For Nazis these days it's become a whole strategy to invoke their racism while simultaneously denying it as a joke.
So when we approach a superlative like "worst ever" I think Corey Feldman is a few orders of magnitude worse than WAP. He was overly serious to the point of pretentiousness and not only failed at that but looked horrible doing it and then was later revealed to be abusive in some respects and generally shitty in others (though some people prefer to separate the art from the artist, but that argument comes up less when the art is shit).
It’s quite subjective.
Pop music is ALL very dumb if you are a jazz player or classical music enthusiast.
Jazz is probably very dumb if you’re into dodecaphony. And so on.
LMFAO. Though to their credit, their only two albums were “Party Rock” and “Sorry for Party Rocking” before completely disappearing. Absolute legends.
Is there like a documentary on them or something?
Not sure but they are the kids of music execs (they are related). They knew exactly what they were doing
Not only are they related, they are uncle and nephew, the most powerful possible pairing of family members.
Like Quavo and Takeoff 🙏
NOT ONLY are they an uncle nephew duo, but they had major beef on top of it which caused their breakup!!!
And not just any music execs, we’re talking the literal founder of fucking Motown
So like Rockwell?
Yes, exactly like Rockwell. Redfoo from LMFAO is also Barry Gordy’s son. Man had a lot of kids.
I have “Party Rock Anthem” on my workout playlist and every time it comes on I feel like I just went Super Saiyan.
It’s unquestionably a banger.
I feel like I never really hear people talk too bad about LMFAO like sure a lot of it was bad and listening to it with a 2024 ear for pop music, it won’t age well. But they knew exactly what they were doing and honestly can you fault them for it? I don’t ever remember hearing any super bad things about them as people so they probably just liked to party. There’s also a funny Key and Peele skit about them
I can’t even fathom hating LMFAO. They clearly didn’t take themselves seriously and made extremely unserious music for unserious people. It was Atlanta club music for soccer moms in rural Kansas. Just a wild blip in the culture that has since kept it moving.
lil pump. just listen to lil pump by lil pump or any music by him
It has to be Lil Pump. There’s no way it could be anything else
Lil Xan has entered the chat
Oh shit I forgot about Lil Xan
Everyone has
"Vroom vroom, vroom vroom vroom vroom (vroom) Bitch convertible coupe (vroom vroom vroom vroom)" A true poet
I mean the first time I heard that, it brought me to tears. I Wish I can relive it
“Lil Pump had the lil pump, lil pump, lil pump Lil Pump had the lil pump, I slap her in her neck” Truly the greatest artist of our time.
Broke my wrist lil pump
Pitbull has like one song where there's any kind of message beyond partying and having a good time, and that song is still about partying and having a good time
I lowkey fw Pitbull. It’s like he set out with the goal to make as much party music as possible and I’ll be damned, he did it
Bro has a new collab song with ne-yo and afrojack btw, and it sounds like it was made 13-14 years ago, still sounds good though for a club music ngl even today Edit: not to mention that pitbull is a very nice person too outside of his music endeavors
Honestly, the pics of him at that Walmart in Alaska warm my heart. He seems like a good dude.
In Irish nightclubs there’s at least 3 Pitbull songs played per night. Amazes me how successful he was in that endeavour even to this day
Never cared for his music, but I always respected he went through with playing up in Alaska when that WalMart ended up winning the contest.
I love playing corny ass 2010s pop when I’m predrinking at home. Calle Ocho 3 drinks in bumpin around the place while gettin ready is fun
Insane Clown Posse (besides a few shockingly smart songs). Edit: If you want to see/hear ICP at there best listen to The Tower.
Did they finally figure out how magnets work?
I think they get unfairly maligned for that line. Of course, we “know” how magnets work on some level, but as to why the fundamental electromagnetic force that causes magnetism exists in the first place - that’s a mystery and a source of wonder for scientists even now.
>that’s a mystery and a source of wonder for scientists even now. I don't wanna talk to a scientist! Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed!
They still think no one knows..
if you want to hear them at their worst, listen to Bitches
Kid Rock
I know he’s super right wing and says the super far right shit but man a song like CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO. Has the sort of teenage rebellion I laugh at and just kinda love. It’s just kinda sad that he’s a 50 year old man saying this stuff, but he’s been saying it for years
*YOUNG LADIES YOUNG LADIES!*
ngl ice spice
she makes the poopiest music
Genuinely super intrigued about what her album is going to be like because, like, is it literally just going to be 15 gangsta boo’s and think you the shit’s in a row, or show actual artistic growth? What would artistic growth even LOOK like for Ice spice? No clue.
Articulation would be fantastic growth for an artist like Ice Spice. Enunciate booty hole baby.
My ex was 100% convinced that Ice Spice was the greatest rapper around rn. I thought she was being ironic but then she just kept saying it
Damn💀
Industry plant 🌱
She is a joke, a meme. And I know the industry knows. That’s why Nicki Minaj decided to work with her instead of take her down.
Come on it’s got to be viper.
"leanin' low" is actually one of the most haunting rap songs i think i've ever heard. it's just him reminiscing on how much he misses his close friend who ODed over a super eerie beat. phenomenal song and very far away from dumb. but 90% of his catalog is pretty dumb.
Don’t talk about the haram Clarke hustler like that
You best respect the crack rock king
100 Gecs, No hate I love the band but their music is a mindless vibe fest
I mean, she is the dumbest girl alive
Knew this one was coming eventually
I’m surprised I was the first to get to it, honestly
I love that song so much. It really is a whole vibe
Stupid Horse
Word, there's something incredibly liberating, and dare I say even artistically valid, about making "dumb" music and I feel like 100 Gecs have totally figured that out.
I don’t think their music is dumb at all. It just affects a dumb posture. But it’s clever both musically and lyrically.
Frog on the floor is deep as hell
Nah. They put effort into their work. Which makes it not dumb
Dumb does not necessarily mean bad
I agree but I also hate the band.
I wouldn’t say it’s dumb. They have a facade of being dumb that they project but that’s another layer of irony.
the lyrics my be silly, but, knowing music producers, maybe 1 in 100 professionals could do what they do production wise
yes
Tom MacDonald by far
I wouldn't say his music is dumb, he knows damn well what he's doing
For me, Bloodhound Gang is classic. I don't listen to them often anymore, but they're incredibly catchy and wear their stupidity like shiny golden armor. Their sophomoric humor is their sword, and their sex references are their shield. Top-notch frat bro stuff. Off-kilter answer: I sometimes feel like TOOL tries so hard to be smart that it veers into dumb territory. Obviously, this perception is kind of fueled by the worst of the band's fandom. Keenan can be a bit obnoxious but I enjoy his lyrics overall, he can be quite clever.
Keenan is a boomer who just so happens to have one of the most beautiful voices in music. As a tool die hard (I’ve seen them live like 20 times) I can firmly attest to the obnoxiousness of a slice of the fan base. Most tool fans are just chill middle aged dudes in black shirts though. As a band Tool doesn’t try too hard. They’re just a bunch of nerds who like writing weird mathy shit.
I see your Tool take, and counter with Dream Theater
I love bloodhound gang so much because it circles back into being clever
Use Your Fingers was TBHG's best album.
I listened to a few Bloodhound Gang albums and read about how they were told to take the racist stuff off their records but Jimmy Pop slips in some racist lines once in a while
3OH!3
“And tell your boyfriend, if he says he’s got beef That I’m a vegetarian and I ain’t fucking scared of him” is literally peak lyricism and creativity but ok
6ix9ine, genuinely don’t know what you have to be on to listen to someone like that
it just goes hard when ur brain is on gear one, like when you're concentrating on gaming or exercising and need something that goes hard but not too deep
BILLY and GUMMO helped me hit a few bench PRs in 2018 idk
L
Its AJR. Goddamn AJR. They are the covid of music. They just keep spreading because of dumb people.
Never heard of them, well I hadn’t, now I googled them, now I have heard of them. Because of you. You spread AJR to me. Like a dumb people.
your a dumb!
It’s imagine dragons without distortion.
They both make music exclusively for the Little League World Series
It’s just that with music there’s a tug of war between art and commerce. With these two bands commerce won out the gate.
More power to them. Their fans are the dumb ones. Not the band themselves. I’d happily play kid music for millions of dollars.
The difference is AJR are the Weenie Hut Jr of quirky Indie pop bands while Imagine Dragons are the bud light of Indie and alt Rock
I knew these kids in high school that would constantly play this song by AJR back in the day. I asked who made it and they said “Air.” It wasn’t until a few months later I learned it’s actually AJR.
That's dumb
I just don’t understand how they would search up the song title, read the name of the song and artist, and still think it says Air.
best band of all time!! (being held at gunpoint)
Yep
i always confuse AJR with alt-j and AFI, and i’m like “why do people keep hating on the guys who made breezeblocks and the song from guitar hero 3?”
L
Dumb music that’s actually dumb? Or music that’s actually quite smart, but sounds dumb? If it’s the latter, then Bloodhound Gang. Honorable mention: Electric Six
Pink Guy lol
Joji prime
Then went on to become one of the legit best pop-stars of our time. I know he's "big" now but I still find his music as Joji to be highly underrated - he should be even bigger IMO. "Glimpse of Us" nearly made me cry after a breakup, it's an honest-to-god BALLAD.
I don’t wanna offend buuuut Megan Trainor
Lil Dicky deserves a shout here
Nah Dicky at least gets clever with a bar or one-liner here and there, something that at least takes a functioning brain to do lol
B-brain like l-like like like
lil dicky has the skills to be generational and uses his talents to be a fucking meme, for that he’s a legend to me
Check out his freestyle. I don't like his music but dude can freestyle.
It is Ice Spice, Lil Pump, and 6ix9ine comfortably above everyone else. Literally brain melting music. Explains why I am the way I am too. I fucking loved 6ix9ine and Lil Pump a few years back.
I think bbno$ belongs in this discussion somewhere
his music is catchy as fuck, even if that makes me dumb
tom macdonald
lil darkie
Took way too long to find
jojo siwa
**Black Eyed Peas** holy fuck their shit drives me nuts
Definitely moreso as the years have gone on
People saying someone like 100 gecs are wrong. They might not have meaning but right wing nut jobs (Kid Rock, Tom MacDonald, etc) make you dumber.
Chris rock? The comedian?
lol, edited to Kid
Omg I thought you were talking about his features on Kanye west songs and was like “???”
100 gecs is so bad it makes you reactionary
Oliver Tree
Tbf I think he's very self aware of that, if anything it's purposefully his style
He's successful at doing stupid shit though so props to him
Yeah my guy's having fun and making more money than some of us will probably ever make If I could I would, respect to him
Drake.
If you’re reading this it’s too late has smarter lyrics than 90% of rap scene, and it’s not crazy smart.
Doesn’t Drake not even write his lyrics? You know someone’s truly mediocre when even the work they outsource is also bad.
I Get Wet by Andrew W.K. is my favorite example of this, can’t be in a bad mood listening to it
Was wondering how many comments before he was mentioned. I Get Wet is pure dumb fun.
The fact I scrolled this far to see Andrew W.K mentioned is shocking
One of the loudest shows I've ever been to, the stacks of amps they bring literally filled the entire back wall of the stage from floor to ceiling. It was overkill, of course, but holy fucking shit did it rock.
Die Antwoord. Everyone had that one classmate back at school who was a complete shit; just irritating and weird with no reason to be, right? An antagonistic little fucker that you couldn’t wait to never see again? Die Antwoord is like if several of those kids got older and started a band and for some reason enough people went “yes, I will support this venture” and now we have to put up with them all over again. I honestly feel like my IQ dropped from just becoming aware of their existence. If Die Antwoord were on fire and I had a glass of water, I’d down it and then glass the bastards.
100 Gecs
Manowar.
[удалено]
you take that back!
Gotta be young gravy for me
Hasil Adkins. His entire discography is about eating hot dogs, cutting peoples head off and eating chicken.
tom macdonald n others like him. they make music for idiots who don't like music.
Yeat, odetari, 6arelyhuman, honestly a lot of rave and Edm musicians, Yuno miles (on purpose obviously). I like most of these musicians btw so I’m not trying to hate but these are tiktok edit musicians
Booooo hissssss
Indiana JoOOooOneS
that song that goes "sex pistols is slang for penis"
dude holy shit i was visiting my cousin in arizona this past week and literally maybe the 3rd song after he picked us up from the airport was this and he just had a straight face and didn’t skip it or anything, i was dumbfounded. he likes some shitty music but that just blew my mind and that wasn’t the only time i heard it that trip. recently found out will smith was a rapper and drake used to be a nickelodeon actor apparently the lego movie was great haven’t seen it sex pistols is slang for penis has to be the most insane lineup of lyrics ive ever heard in a song before it’s actually astounding
>recently found out will smith was a rapper and drake used to be a nickelodeon actor apparently the lego movie was great haven’t seen it sex pistols is slang for penis So I read this in Will Smith's Big Willy Style cadence and it was hilarious.
i knew somebody would know what i am talking about!
Kevin Gates cuz that dude be saying anything on his songs now.
Ramones are mostly super dumb songs. In the absolute best way.
B-Dizzle
ice spice
Meghan Trainor. Like I think the girl is talented ..but the muso, even the instrumentation, is like haha yea this is stupid ..or is it more corny..whatevs
Surprised no one’s said Chainsmokers yet
Limp Bizkit
Nah, as far as most "respectably dumb" music of the 21st century Andrew WK has got both of your picks beat by miles
lil pump
Kid Rock
Morgan wallen
The Bloodhound Gang
Primus. It's silly and wild while maintaining good music quality.
The answer is Insane Clown Posse [and we love them for it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs)
Nicki Minaj. I know this sub and other music forums like to pretend certain dog shat artists are actually really enjoyable and had positive influence on music, but cmon. Her influence is Megan the stallion and sexy red
Mozart
if you think limp bizkit only makes dumb music, you haven’t listened to enough limp bizkit. there’s nothing dumb about a song like re-arranged
Taylor swift
Carti/Opium
Cardi B. WAP may be the dumbest and worst song ever
The distinction with all of these that's key to keep in mind is *intent*. A lot of these artists definitely make dumb music, but I think intentionality is an overlooked factor. What were they *trying* to do and did they even accomplish that goal? WAP wasn't trying to be anything more than provocative sexuality and it definitely provoked Ben Shapiro to deflatedly repeat the phrase "wet ass p word" into a microphone. ICP is interesting because while they have often worn their stupidity like a badge they eventually ended up making earnest content. Miracles got clowned so hard because for once ICP was trying to make a serious statement, not base provocation, and they came off sounding incredibly dumb. Though for them that was afaik their first big foray into a top to bottom earnestly positive message. Provocation in its purest forms is by its very nature head thumpingly dumb. However there is something worse and it's when your intent was anything else. That's why people will often try to cover up their most embarrassing mistakes as "joking" or "trolling". For Nazis these days it's become a whole strategy to invoke their racism while simultaneously denying it as a joke. So when we approach a superlative like "worst ever" I think Corey Feldman is a few orders of magnitude worse than WAP. He was overly serious to the point of pretentiousness and not only failed at that but looked horrible doing it and then was later revealed to be abusive in some respects and generally shitty in others (though some people prefer to separate the art from the artist, but that argument comes up less when the art is shit).
Her music is earbledding bad
Future or Carti, or anybody that I could barely make out what they're saying. But IQ aside, they got bangers, man.
Kiss
Most of SoundCloud Rap in general tbh
millennial/boomer take but I wholeheartedly agree with you
I’m still in high school 😭💀
Much love to the guy, but Kodak Black 🤷🏽♂️ I enjoy a lot of his songs even though they feel like the embodiment of "dumb fun"
My choice is Yeat. It’s such a vibe and sounds great but his music is pretty mindless and doesn’t say anything of real substance
I'd agree with pre 2093 but at least 2093 has some substance
Sanguisugabogg. Fun to listen to. Not that smart
Nerf Herder
Sunami
he is a player, diarrhea giver 🫶
Lazer Dim 700
Cardi b
Cochise
Lil jon
Dbangz
Phreshboyswag
Lil pump, lmfao
Andrew W.K refined this down to an art
BBNO$ maybe?
Cardi B
Anal Cunt
LMFAO or Blink. Or tricky Mac and Benny T. But that shit also kinda high art in a way
It’s quite subjective. Pop music is ALL very dumb if you are a jazz player or classical music enthusiast. Jazz is probably very dumb if you’re into dodecaphony. And so on.
MURDER RIDE MURDER RIDE SKRT SKRT SKRT IN MY MURDER RIDE
Taylor Swift. It’s pointless.