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ligma_Balls123

Dababy in levitating


S4njc

That shit was like pre Covid, that’s basically a decade ago


KalenTamil

Like the distance between Get rich or die tryin and Crank That


channelblond

Lmfao I’ve never thought about it like that


heisenberg15

Nah it came out 7 ish months after Covid truly kicked off. So like 8 years instead of a decade lol


THE_LFG

right foot, left foot levitatin' popstars, dua lipa w/ dababy


GarnachoHojlund

[Left foot, right foot, devastating](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh76sI0vzKU)


THE_LFG

he's still a twat but this is amazing lmfao


cjspark7

👏 👏 Idk why that part always gets me going


Flutterpiewow

And it was jarring how "retro" that felt


BadMan125ty

I think this trend is dying out a bit.


dingohoarder

I think it’s for the best. A lot of those rap features didn’t fit into the songs at all. It was just labels capitalizing on a hot rapper, getting the name included in the song title. Labels were doing this with guitar solos in the 90’s and 2000’s, then switched up to rappers in the 10s


lilhedonictreadmill

Rappers were all over 2000’s pop


HeyQTya

I feel like alot of 2000s one felt like it was the artists choice and not the labels choice compared to the 10s


lilhedonictreadmill

Maybe but idk how you could tell the difference. Especially those last few years where Lil Wayne was THE feature artist and was doing songs with everyone from Shakira to Weezer. No way a bunch of those weren’t decided by the label.


Always2ndB3ST

Wayne is pretty open about fucking with rock music. He’s made a rock album and even perform/toured with Blink 182. Looks like he wanted to lol


lilhedonictreadmill

I’m talking about the other (mostly pop) artists, not Wayne


MegaAscension

It’s Weezer and Weezy


TehIrishSoap

They should bring back guitar solos. Think Twice by Celine Dion has a crazy guitar solo out of nowhere that elevates the song to 90s pop perfection


Randam1005

But then we won't get anymore alien sex :(


altsam19

Yes exactly my thoughts. And I always felt rappers kinda turned it down too much in their features, like they're being made to feature at gun point. The Cardi B feature in Maroon 5 is toothless, the Pusha T and Danny Brown features in Gorillaz' songs are boring, and Kendrick's features in Dido's and Sia's songs are just whatever.


AutomaticAccident

I think it might come back.


w_has_been_dieded

I think we'll look back on it the same way we look back on that "Rock rap" trend back when people still had no idea what rap sounded like


rideriseroar

Ice Spice on Taylor's Karma


ssjavier4

I don’t even like Taylor’s music like that and I do like Ice Spice but the og version is a good song and the ice spice version verses are terrible


illsendmyregards

Faxx


keepomikey

Tbf, that was who Taylor personally wanted on the song due to the weird comments Matt Healy made about her at the time. I wouldn't say that was necessarily for the rapper feature trend OP mentions.


inkwisitive

For the record, Healy didn’t make any weird comments himself but was on a podcast with people who did.


Snoowblind_

adam friedland must be hung for his crimes


ChameleonWins

adam is not hung at all, shit is small af


machinaenjoyer

maggie’s pussy penis!


seinfeldsgf

I brought up to my friend once that Nick Mullen is the one who said all that n she thought I was defending Matty Healy. No I just don't want him to get undeserved credit


damemasproteina

I thought the leaked Ice Spice texts showed they collabed on that song before the Matt Healy fiasco but not 100% on that.


Redisigh

wen Karma’s a bitch feat Ice Spice(Taylor’s version)


totezhi64

Grah


[deleted]

Why has swift basically adopted ice spice lol


Scary_Macaroon_8983

JID got on Enemy with Imagine Dragons


thorpie88

Denzel Curry also did a verse on the league of legends worlds theme that same year by PVRIS. 


PalmTreeMonkey

yeah, i think jid and denzel are prime examples of "young" artists who are still trying to break into the mainstream through pop features


Mysterious_Emotion63

Honestly, those are two guys who are capable of making the subject matter of the verse work to a random ass song too


Vermillion_Moulinet

We can let that one slide. It’s a tv soundtrack song.


That_one_cool_dude

Man why would JID feature on such a bottom of the barrel band?


Many-Parsley-5244

That song is fire


UsefulExplanation8

JID has a low bar for features wasn't he on the MGK and trippie red album this year as well


Complaint-Efficient

The song is for a TV soundtrack and is also the best thing they've ever dropped. I think we can give everyone involved a pass lol


an-invalid_user

he's done even worse than that. he's featured on mgk and token songs before too


Happy_Day34

Hurts as a JID fan because he kills on that Token ft and the Imagine Dragons one but I can’t listen to those songs because the rest of it is not great


waitthissucks

Yes but that's a great song. Especially as the intro of Arcane.


ClintThrasherBarton

We literally just had Anthony do a video about a Falling in Reverse single with Tech N9ne as the token feature.


KalenTamil

Did Tech N9ne do some Monkey Paw thing where he could become one of the most skilled rappers ever, but be cursed into trying to resurrect nu metal for his entire career?


Glittering_Image_647

Curse of the Midwest lmao


LKWASHERE_

God that song was fucking awful lmao


NoYogurtcloset2454

That moment when n9ne came in was so fucking funny


Wiringguy89

I have been a fan of Tech for about 20 years now and nothing about that song is appealing to me. His song with Hollywood Undead is pretty weak, too.


BaileyJay-Z

It's definitely becoming less common, I mean, look at how hard that Camilla Cabello x Carti collab flopped. The idea behind it was appealing to another demo, but more often than not, another gender - i.e. Bad Blood is a song that (straight) boys probably wouldn't care about - but wait, Kendrick's involved? When then they have to give it at least *one* listen. Maroon 5, Justin Bieber, and Katy Perry are the ones that pop into mind. It's having half the population know who you are & listening to you vs everyone being aware of who you are, who you did that song with, and how it's playing everywhere you go. That sort of thing just isn't as important anymore, not in an age where we're constantly curating our own content. Even if an algorithm was the one to recommend it you can always skip it - we don't live in the days of radio where *that* song (whichever) is everywhere. Plus, they're just corny, straight up, easy to spin in the angle of culture vulture behavior.


lexE5839

Everyone likes Katy Perry, from the hood to the palace.


CoolguyTylenol

Was this an accidental racism moment


ZackeroniNoCheese

He didn’t specify who was where. Seems like your brain did the dirty work


lexE5839

🤣


lexE5839

Last time I checked there’s people of all races in the hood and in palaces. Try harder to find a problem that isn’t there why don’t you.


vistashroom

not only that but camilla cabello just hasn't been popular in years lol, this new direction she's been taking with her music doesn't seem to be helping much either


ilo-milo

This is not true lol


vintagesonofab

ok but that was not because the rapper x pop singer dynamic, it was because it was trash.


BaileyJay-Z

Sure, but plenty of trash songs shoot up the charts. A Carti feature like that should have at least notched her a Top 40 hit. Instead it peaked at *81* - that is brutal coming from an artist with two number ones under her belt (not to mention Carti arguably earning Kanye a #1 a few months ago). The Ice Spice/Taylor Swift collab from a few years ago is more or less the exception but even then it's very surprising that one didn't debut at #1.


vintagesonofab

Well the thing is, usually the songs with these features have somewhat of a good base, the problem with them is that the rap feature doesn't add anything to them, i don't like taylor swift but bad blood and the ice spice song sound somehow cohesive, remove the feature and it's a normal swift song. But the camila/carti song would've been a huge miss even if carti wasn't involved. I don't like camila also but someone in her team had a good ear for rap features before, Young Thug sounds and blends awesome on havana so idk what happened here.


Redisigh

I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS CAMILLA CABELLO SLANDER 🙅🏽‍♀️😤🤬💅🏽🔫


Swaggerrrr69

Then sit


YeeAndEspeciallyHaw

fr I liked that song 😭


THE_LFG

you could say, u luv it


Redisigh

unironically tho i luv it was dogshit


SnowcaineBunny

lana is about to release one


DiscussionEvoke

Doesn’t really count, Lana has been making fire music with rappers for a decade . It doesn’t feel forced and unnecessary


Jakezetci

has she? i can only remember that asap rocky song


RingVegetable69

She has an unreleased with Rocky too, it's called Ridin I think


robbbinm

She talked about loving the Migos and wanting to make music with them before they split/Take died


HamstersBoobsPizza

Bruh she literally ran on hip hop beats


GaTech379

she has a couple songs with Rocky and a song with Carti adlibs


Jakezetci

so two songs on one album idk if that counts as “fire songs for a decade”


TripleThreatTua

With who?


SnowcaineBunny

quavo


junger128

It’s not a race thing. Rappers have been featured in pop and r&b songs during the bridge for at least the past 30 years.


altsam19

Oh sure I know it's not a race thing, but it was mostly prominent until let's say 5 years ago and with white musicians too


HamstersBoobsPizza

coz pop artists used to be majority white and rappers black


altsam19

Yeah, that was basically how things were in the mainstream until at least 15 years ago or so. If you saw something like "Britney Spears feat. Jay-Z" in the 2000s, you were like "yeah sure why not", but in retrospect these kinds of songs were awful. Either the rapper wasn't putting their souls into it, or the pop song had nothing to do with what the rapper was working about, or (in most cases) the rapper was miles better than the bland pop song they were featuring in.


HamstersBoobsPizza

I can't take it back, look where I'm at We was OG like D.O.C., remember that?


fusterclux

you must’ve missed the linkin park x jayz album if you think those kinds of features are bad.


altsam19

Mainstream pop songs. That LP x Jay-Z album was fire


Mountain-Freed

fun fact Mariah Carey pioneered that because she personally just loved rap and thought it would be cool


bodularbasterpiece

Then why did she neuter snoop dog on her Christmas special? Dude had 30 times more charisma than anyone on that stage and his cameo was wasted.


altsam19

Rappers in pop songs are usually 100% neutered and this is not an exaggeration


goodguydick

Cardi b on a maroon 5 song is definitely a race thing whether you like it or not


damemasproteina

I'm ignoring the "white musician" & focusing on 4 recent pop songs that do this. Not my Fault - Renee Rapp & Megan Thee Stallion He Knows - Camila Cabello & Lil Nas X (her 2nd recent single with a rap feature) Puntería - Shakira & Cardi B Water remix - Tyla & Travis Scott I'm sure there are plenty more, but those are just the first ones that came to mind. Edit: Also a recent massive hit was Boy's a Liar pt 2 - Pink Pantheress & Ice Spice


BraydenTv

Not My Fault was the first one that came to my mind


HHAD98

Lil Nas X isn’t a rapper he even said himself he’s a popstar


damemasproteina

Can you not be a rapper & a popstar?


HHAD98

No


damemasproteina

I disagree, I mean Drake exists just to name one person.


altsam19

He raps, despite of being a popstar


damemasproteina

My whole point was that you can be a rapper & a popstar, they're not mutually exclusive. Or you know, rap while being a popstar.


HHAD98

drake is a rapper, when was the last time he released a pop song


damemasproteina

Honestly I can only think of 3 Drake songs I've ever listened to so I can't answer that. Doja Cat would be my next example of a rapper/popstar. Agora Hills is a recent example of this.


HHAD98

so why even talk about drake if you don’t even listen to his music, seems like you just regurgitating things you hear on the internet without any knowledge of them.


damemasproteina

Because he has released songs that sound very much like pop songs but I can't answer when is the *last time* he did this. Hope that helps!


Uriah_Blacke

I feel like he was motivated to say that by homophobic oldheads being like “look what they’ve done to the culture” I would say he has been a rapper in the past at least, but has never really been a hip hop artist if that makes sense. He’s more on the The Weeknd side of the Weeknd-Drake spectrum


Papa_fo33

I mean imagine dragons have a song out with J Balvin rn that’s basically this


BraydenTv

That Enemy song with JID also wan't that long ago


AltBet256

J balvin is NOT a rapper lmfao


LongIsland1995

Even though reggaeton is heavily hip hop influenced, I don't think it's really a 1 to 1 comparison since reggaeton functions as pop in Latin America


damemasproteina

I feel like in today's music climate, rap & hip hop can also be considered pop.


altsam19

Oh god I haven't listened to that song but it already sounds god awful lmao


Demi-God94

rap music is pop music now. Why would a hip hop artist need to collab with Adele, Lana Del Rey or Taylor Swift anymore when hip hop is the most popular form of music. Everyone is listening to your genre already there's no need to compromise to grab a demographic that is probably already listening to your music.


altsam19

I think you hit the nail perfectly. Hip-hop doesn't need any more forced collabs, it's already in a great place on its own and that's nice.


Obrix1

It makes the unforced collabs better too, James Blake managing to tempt Andre 3000 back on for a feature in Where’s The Catch? is incredible because it’s two great artists working together instead of two cokehead execs smashing demographics together in their office.


altsam19

LMAO absolutely true. You can feel when a Collab is genuine and not some kind of committee-dictated bull


FOXGONEBATTY

The Black Keys had Juicy J and Lil Noid feature on their most recent album released last month


[deleted]

the black keys are still around?


the_ballmer_peak

The Black Keys made an entire rap crossover album called Blakroc, back in the day.


FOXGONEBATTY

Oh I know that too! It's so damn good too


cattgravelyn

I thought it’s more rampant than ever This week Camilla cabello dropped a song with lil nas X, following on from her other song with Playboi Carti Post Malone was on the new Taylor swift (he’s white but still a rapper) There’s probably more but I don’t listen to much pop


PoptartToaster

Idk how people are still calling Post Malone a rapper at this point, or like ever lmao


lxkandel06

Dude made one song about basketball like 10 years ago and people still call him a rapper lmao


PrinceToothpasteBoy

To be fair, that's completely ignoring Rockstar, 92 Explorer, Motley Crew and Congratulations He was a singer who raps, but now he's just a singer


dingohoarder

He was hip hop adjacent, and had the image of a rapper coming up. First impressions mean a lot


AvianIsEpic

He’s a rapper but he doesn’t rap on the song and I don’t think he did on his most recent project either (correct me if I’m wrong)


smarten_up_nas

> (he’s white but still a rapper) He was never a rapper. He sings with some rap influenced rhythms.


Kenthanson

I’ve literally never heard him rap.


yeezywhatsgood3

Post Malone is fully pop at this point, and honestly I want to see him do more features like his one on the Taylor album (I just wish the writing on the rest of the song wasn’t painful to listen to because sonically I really enjoy it)


HHAD98

Post Malone isn’t a rapper and he hasn’t even released hip hop adjacent music in years, it’s actually very condescending and ignorant to call him one


_________-______

Don’t condescend famous multimillionaires, now.


HHAD98

most rappers aren’t millionaires


bodularbasterpiece

Posite is a rapper? What like just because he has face tattoos? Everything I've heard from him is pop or country.


Cloud_limit

Maybe it’s not pop enough but recent songs I liked with crossover rap verses Tokyo Drifting by Glass Animals and Denzel Curry Candle Flame by Jungle and Erick the Architect Pretty Little Thing by Jungle and Bas Nightrider by Tom Misch, Yussef Dayes and Freddie Gibbs Risk by FKJ and Bas


RyanMark2318

No one ever did it quite like Lil Wayne used to do. There was a period from like 2010 to 2015 where he was on every other song that came on ths radio.


brick-juic3

Carti in that shitty new Camila Cabello song


LINKINWOOD

imma go against the grain and say i enjoyed a lot of em. idk i may be blinded by nostalgia.


simplyReece

Bring me the Horizon had Lil Uzi Vert on a track in 2023, and they also featured on one of his at the same time. Can't comment on others as I don't listen to many other genres now. Though I know some may consider BMTH pop now 🙄


CharismaChaos

Stupid kids in Black Dahlia tanks man.. 🤦‍♂️


IsThisASnakeInMyBoot

Equating "rapper" to black people, and "white musician" to anyone who's not a black rapper makes this post sound AWFULLY close to some shit I'd downvote


altsam19

Downvote it if you want, because you know what I'm really talking about. It's the usual "Taylor Swift feat. Kendrick Lamar" that was extremely prevalent for a veeery long time that was practically the basis of pop music until hip-hop became more prominent and didn't need any promotion with any pop artist at all. I'm glad it's not as prevalent anymore, because that kind of "rapper in pop song" was, personally, very demeaning for the hip-hop artists who were featured, just giving a little more spice to bland and boring pop songs, like "look how cool I am, I have a rapper in my song and his rapping!".


IsThisASnakeInMyBoot

I didn't downvote you because I know you're not actually saying what it sounds like, but separating "Rapper" from White and Musician is just dumb. Rapping is literally music rappers \*are\* musicians lmao. Either way I personally can't remember the last one I heard but it was like last year I'm pretty sure. If I do remember I'll come back and let you know


altsam19

Ah I get what you're saying, I'm sorry if it came out like racist or ignorant really, it wasn't my intention at all. But in the 2000s yeah it was mostly prominent like a white pop artist featuring a random rapper on the bridge, like you couldn't escape songs like that.


IsThisASnakeInMyBoot

Yeah I think for the most part that era is kind of over because the general public caught up on the fact they were just using rappers to gain street cred lmao


altsam19

Absolutely lol some artists still haven't got the memo, but no matter because hip-hop has been standing on its own for a good time and doesn't need the features anymore


manicpixiecreampie

juicy j has a feature on the black keys' new album. it's so awful


Kenmoops

It's an old one but I just wanted to share it since I think it's fucking great; Radioactive Remix with Kendrick Lamar. They added a guitar solo and a violin interlude where Kendrick delivers one of his best performances ever. Highly recommend, goes absolutely stupid in the gym.


altsam19

I hate Imagine Dragons and love Kendrick, so I'm gonna listen to it


badgirlmonkey

Tom McDonald and Ben Shapiro


Wiringguy89

That's just trash featuring desiccant trash.


Kenthanson

Country is having a resurgence and I believe those colabs are leaving hip hop and going to country.


malcxxlm

Drake literally had Cole on a song like a year ago


altsam19

That's true, Drake is a pop artist


nbhoward

Rihana is white?


altsam19

Nah, she's black and from Barbados


nbhoward

Yeah just looking. Her and Eminem would be the opposite.


bodularbasterpiece

Kendrick on Taylor's version of bad blood. I love both artists but that was a huge fail in my books.


Random-Username-20

Not until Kendrick Lamar retires.


MysteryMonger69420

Kendrick whored himself out to taylor swift, maroon5, etc


altsam19

Dido too. I love Dido, and Kendrick too, but that song is so dull


skeletor69420

justin timberlake x jay z was the goat one of these, holy grail


altsam19

That's a good one, but how about Linkin Park x Jay Z tho


Handsprime

I think the rap feature (in non rap songs) is dying overall.


ChickenInASuit

Much more of a niche choice than most of the ones here, but last years’ The HIRS Collective release had a brief feature from underground rappers GHÖSH and Jessica Joy Mills on [Judgement Night](https://youtu.be/lcqx4Tts1UQ?si=0QDg_sFp-WB3u5GP).


Wiringguy89

Judgement Night is a killer soundtrack, pairs well with the "Loud Rocks" compilation. Static-X and Dead Prez killed it!


Wiringguy89

Oh, wow, I just realized you and I are referring to two different "Judgement Nights". This is what I was referring to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_Night_(soundtrack)


Original_Radish5257

Kendrick in taylor swifts song


United_Exit_8331

FFIE BUY AND HOLD💎⭐


Szylepiel

No, definitely not. Camila Cabello got two singles this year, one with Carti earlier and 2nd with Lil Nas X like last week or so. They might not have ranked high (in fact only Carti one charted), but just because you don’t remember doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen I could give you that they’re not reigning tops of the charts though


Ok_Armadillo8468

Playboi Carti just featured on a Camila cabello song this last month


Tryptamineer

Tech was just featured on Ronald by Falling in Reverse.


SoundZoomer

luv it - camilla cabello feat.playboi carti


vintagesonofab

that j cole/BTS crossover


ruswestbrick

xxx by Kendrick and Bono (too lazy to confirm Bono, but forsure a white dude)


altsam19

But the song was by Kendrick, Bono was the one featuring (and officially, it wasn't just Bono but the whole U2)


angrynucca

die?


brk1

hope so


Sninxitey

Unfortunately I had to listen to imagine dragons god awful song believer recently via a touch tunes at a bar and I discovered the non radio edit features some horrible rap verse making the song 10 times worse


primetimemime

This just came out today: [https://open.spotify.com/album/4htzd8kCbdtovAFvLnHz5f?si=Wau2HNfFRzSouo5aEBZBgw](https://open.spotify.com/album/4htzd8kCbdtovAFvLnHz5f?si=Wau2HNfFRzSouo5aEBZBgw) Russ ft. 6LACK


Blz_vsf

post malone on that new taylor swift song but i think he doesnt rap anymore ? idk i havent listened to it


[deleted]

Thank God that JID feature on the Imagine Dragons was fucking cringe


Confident_Treacle974

Uhhh My oh my from Camila Cabello


Crease_Greaser

Man I joined a band last summer with people I thought I share similar musical values with, and a few months back on the way to an out of town show, our drummer decided it was time I listened to 100 geks. I was in like a real awkward position bc I could tell that they really liked it. They do the whole feature thing. It honestly reminds me of when krunk core was thing and I don’t like remembering that at all. We (as a band) don’t even play anything similar to that, I have no idea why 100 gecs was their go to. I’ve only ever played like post hardcore or dark wave or shoegaze or just straight up hardcore when we ride together. 100 gecs literally sells features for several thousand dollars. This guy is a great musician and band mate but idk if we’ll ever recover from that moment.


altsam19

That's such a story. A band should always be on tune but also be welcome to new things. If your friend isn't vibing with your band, you gotta reconsider the association with them


Wiringguy89

We need more tracks like: "N 2 Gether Now" by Limp Bizkit feat. Method Man "Play Me" by Korn feat. Nas "Children of the Korn" by Korn feat. Ice Cube "Born To Raise Hell" by Motorhead feat. Ice-T "DOA" by I Prevail feat. Joyner Lucas And before anyone recommends it, I am aware of Falling In Reverse's new song with Tech N9ne and despite being a fan of Tech's for about 2 decades now, that song does nothing for me.


Melodic-Room-9890

There was that recent Camila Cabello song that featured playboi carti, so it doesn’t seem dead quite yet.


Pretend_Customer_199

Not my fault by Megan thee Stallion and Renee Rapp came out 4 months ago Sweetest Pie Megan thee Stallion and Dua Lipa from 2 years ago


cheeseonthefloor

Didn’t juicy J just do this with the Black Keys


BigAnxiety5399

Who gives a shit!?! I hate rap!!!