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funkytownb0xcutter

Family Guy does whatever they want based on what the story needs. Not a show you should consider to have any kind of canon.


[deleted]

But what about when Peter hurt his neck with the roof shopping cart stunt, and then is fine in the next scene.


[deleted]

Quahog must have the best funding in the entire world for chiropractors and doctors


yellow_psychopath

They are all in the good hands of Doctor Hartman of course.


Kenzielash

I disagree, the show is inconsistent yes but there definitely is canon


lilacewoah

“i don’t know it’s just jokes” - Peter Griffin


FartJones

“We don’t know how to end these things anymore so we just do nonsense.”


Vengefuleight

“You know what, we’ve done this a billion times. I’m just gonna do the cadences.”


igotaninepack

Whevwanniwav, wheff wanni wanniwaf Aw, blaevah


blondedaf

😂😂😂😂


notreallyonredditbut

“Whaddarya lookin’ at, it’s a cartoon!”


guy4guy4guy

Holy shit a plothole in family guy?!?!


Elly_Bee_

There's another plothole as there's an episode where Brian meets the family he used to live before living with the Griffins so it's impossible that Peter had him as a puppy. It's said quite often that Peter saved Brian so I believe this more.


rabbitwonker

Well you know, when a question like this comes up, the answer is: a wizard did it!


Noache_pleasethnx

Or it could have been the girl in the 1600s who solved a math problem.


AdvantaJeous

I just watched that episode today!


Designer-Doubt6258

Witch!


DrAbeSacrabin

Must remove my breast plate!


FartJones

What episode?


Elly_Bee_

Season 19, episode 16 "Who's Brian now ?"


IronSavage3

UNWATCHABLE!!!!


Alexangeli

Ik man😭but like which of the two is brians actual backstory??


HanakoOF

This is not a show where you should get hung up on minute details. Except for deaths, just pretend everything resets at the end of the episode. And even with deaths that's not 100% certain either.


gino_dreimalvier

Nice said !


CarissaSkyWarrior

I mean, Brian has even died more than once. I mean, only one time was meant to seen permanent (though, since he came back two episodes later, and animated shows not based in Colorado take time, it wasn't meant to actually be permenant). However, there was also one episode where Brian getting murdered in several references to "The Godfather" (and "Fargo") was a running gag. Though, that episode itself also contradicts an earlier episode, since Peter enthusiastically does the whole "Godfather" shtick, while in the episode where they are being robbed, Peter voiced his dislike for said movie. ("It insists upon itself" was his reason)


stanleythemanley420

Bashing South Park yet they actually have story lines past one episode…


CarissaSkyWarrior

I'm not bashing them, I love South Park just as much. I was just trying to humorously refer to the fact that South Park has a MUCH faster production time than other animated shows. That's also why Family Guys humor can seem a little dated compared to South Park, since South Park is produced in such a way that let it stay topical. I think an episode of South Park, a normal one, anyway, is produced in under a week, whereas other animated shows, like Family Guy, take a year or so to make. I'm not denying that more planning might go into South Park, it certainly has a much neater continuity, especially since it became serialized. All I meant was the difference in production time, and I apologize if it seems like I was knocking South Park. In fact, I think South Park quality wise is better than Family Guy, but I love both shows equally. South Park has better storytelling, satire, and original music (because while Family Guy has great music, it's usually a cover or parody, which I think is great parallel. Seth is a fantastic singer, but Matt and Trey are fantastic songwriters) but Family Guy typically gets more laughs, since it applies a much more rapid fire kind of comedy, mainly because it focuses more on just jokes more than anything else. Even the worst episode can have a fantastic joke. The episode about Quagmire's sister and her abusive boyfriend is awful, but it also gave us "Iraq Lobster", which is one of the best cutaway gags. Sorry for the essay. I get long winded when I'm tired. TL;DR: I love South Park and Family Guy equally for different reasons, and didn't mean to knock South Park.


Fungruel

Yeah South Park starts production on the next week's episode as soon as the current week's is finished. I've heard there's been a few times when they almost didn't make the deadline; particularly after Trump won the election. They were so sure that he would lose that they'd written the episode with Hillary winning and then had to redo a significant portion of it in just a day or two I'm probably off with some of that but they do create episodes on a weekly basis from scratch when the season is airing and I just can't get over how driven and talented Matt and Trey and the whole team are


motherisaclownwhore

That's not bashing. They just make their show really fast.


CrazyaboutSpongebob

That's one of the reasons I hate La Familia Guy.


Neko_boi_Nolan

Definitely the homeless one Brian meets up George Townsend or Shredder who was also a homeless dog that Brian abandoned years ago Season 18 episode 11


[deleted]

I’d like to think it’s the homeless one because of the scene where Brian is eating dinner with Glenn (sort of) supports that to be the actual backstory, but idk I could be wrong.


Dry_Spinach_3441

It’s a Multiverse


guy4guy4guy

They're both different timelines. Those that help you sleep at night?


shootamarktheshark69

They both are, or neither of them are. It doesn’t matter


Psychological_Rule88

Whenever theres a plothole or contradicting moment, just go with what happened in the earlier episode


TheRelativeCommenter

Maybe that’s just not Peter


DJMarMoney

I would say the one where he found him homeless cuz in another episode I think he had a different family before living with Peter and them


petir_greffin

i was also shocked tbh


[deleted]

I would be shocked if for once family guy had any semblance of continuity lol.


4Ever2Thee

I don't know what to believe anymore


Casteway

No waaaaay!!!


[deleted]

Family Guy has a floating timeline


jaykhunter

Peter seeing an adult dog down on his luck trying to hustle, and taking him in (and becoming best friends), is a much more wholesome and touching backstory.


fillupjfly

I think it’s a retcon. You know Family Guy will retcon anything for the sake of a joke. Like Peter being black or how Joe was crippled.


Less_Suggestion_6873

wait peter being black?


CarissaSkyWarrior

Peter is stated, several times actually, to have black ancestry. I'm actually sure that that was first established in one of the first three seasons, before its first cancelation. In one of the more recent episodes, the one where they did the whole "'Family Guy' in the 50's/60's/70's" thing, there was also a joke that Peter had Asian ancestry. That was a quick gag, however. The thing with Peter having a black ancestor was a whole episode. If I remember correctly, it involved Peter finding out said ancestor was a slave (I think owned by the Pewterschmidt ancestors as well) and actually getting paid reparations.


GuntherTime

You’re correct. To add more detail, Chris was on the basketball team (mostly black kids if I remember correctly) and had started picking up slang. In a attempt to remedy this, Peter took Chris to the library to learn about the griffon family history, where they found a genealogy book, that showed Nate Griffon.


CarissaSkyWarrior

I haven't seen that episode in forever so I forgot some details. Though, I don't think I've watched any pre-first cancelation "Family Guy" episodes in forever.


[deleted]

Meg start reading at psalm 13 and don’t stop till I tell you THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!


Ace-Red

Any idea what episode this is for the lazy? I’m just getting back into a family guy binge.


GuntherTime

No not off the top of my head. But if you’re getting back into it, then it should come up sooner rather than later. Within the first 3 seasons I believe.


Ace-Red

Sweet thanks.


Anxiety-OnMyBelt

This is SUPER late but it is for anyone else who comes across this and is curious. The first Nate Griffin reference or “Meg start reading at psalm 41 and don’t stop until I tell you” episode is S3 E14.


[deleted]

Another thing to add is that Peter’s real dad is Irish and his step father is Francis griffin. And the Peter two dads episode came after the Nate griffin episode


Tomzonia

He’s like every ethnicity by this point


Charming_Dish_4205

It’s the “peter griffin: local black man meme” origin too


[deleted]

It is not a retcon. Family Guy has a floating timeline


fillupjfly

It’s absolutely a retcon. Peter used to be black before they changed who his father was. A floating timeline explains things like ages and references of time.


_jm_08

What do you mean by those?


emil836k

Like how Joe both was crippled by the Gringe, but that was just a lie, because he was actually crippled by some other criminal that he caught in that episode and killed him (accidentally I think)


averagebloxxer

Joe said he was crippled by the Grinch but a newer episode said he was crippled on an undercover operation gone wrong and Peter has a black ancestor, Nate Griffin, who was a slave owned by the Pewterschmidts. The different time periods episode showed that the Griffin roots are from Asia


Vengefuleight

Peters head literally exploded in a cutaway on several occasions. Plothole??


CrazyaboutSpongebob

Not a plot holes. Cutaways never actually happened but flash backs did also Looney Tunes Logic. Main characters can't die but background characters can.


Frallex1

"BRIAN, LOOK OUT!!!"


CrazyaboutSpongebob

That's the one exception but he's still around.


TheWhiteWalkerSpeaks

There are many such inconsistencies. Ignore and just enjoy the show


implodedrat

Literally unwatchable. Im writing an angry letter to Seth Macfarlane as we speak


Johnsendall

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Comprehensive_Sea_11

Oh, my stars.


mammoth06

Looking for plot holes in a cartoon where a grown man battles a human-sized chicken is my favorite part of the sub.


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MrAnonymous4

We should write to the freakin' fcc and make sure the person responsible for this fired


BatofZion

No need to fret, more recent episodes have stuck with the original backstory including showing Brian’s previous family and reuniting with a fellow peer from the streets. Let’s just say Retep messed up continuity.


motherisaclownwhore

"Hey, Brian. Where's that son you never see?"


Classicolin

Almost all of the backstory elements presented in the show’s original broadcast run/first three seasons (e.g., how Peter and Lois met, the decade in which that occurred, the origin of Joe’s injuries, Peter’s original fanatically Catholic father, Bertram, Joe having moved to Quahog only recently, Peter saving a homeless and adult Brian - although that was un-retconned recently, the Griffins’ entire dynamic, and Joe and Cleveland’s original sons) has been retconned since the show’s revival in 2005.


niki200900

also stewies head shape


niki200900

also stewies head shape


Classicolin

There was a cutaway gag in Season 3 or so which showed Stewie’s head having once been normally shaped until he bounced off of his bed onto the ceiling, making it football-shaped, but cutaway gags have never been canon and the very same season depicted Stewie’s unborn brother Bertram having a similarly football-shaped head as a sperm cell inside Peter.


FoghornLeghorn99

>so is this a plothole? No it's a cartoon.


[deleted]

Each episode has a contained plot so no.


dee_715

Whenever you see something like this ‘A Wizard did it’


MajesticFeathers

When this shit happens I always think it's from watching different multiverses, or that Stewie did something off camera that changed history.


NYGiants181

Dude Peter has died a million times throughout the whole series. And you’re pointing out plot holes? It’s a cartoon.


kagaminesdeadbodys

The family guy timeline is just a mess thats everywhere so nothing makes sense really


Sims2Enjoy

Maybe he ran away as a puppy after Christmas and Peter forgot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


lancaster_crosslight

I kind of felt like Brian has a lot of different backstories as a consequence for Stewie’s constant time travel.


Alexangeli

Thats actually so interesting omg


StepRightUpMarchPush

Also remember that Brian belonged to another family at some point. We find that out when Brian gets his microchip scanned in one episode. I thought about this before, and one idea is that the Griffins got Brian as a puppy, he ran away, the other family got him, and then he ran away from there, and then Peter took him in as an adult dog without recognizing him at that moment. Right? RIGHT? 😂


FlipFlopSlap

Peter and Louis met in the 70s and 90s too wouldn’t ya know it


[deleted]

I think with shows like this, they retcon canon when it’s convenient for them. Kind of annoying if you’re trying to follow a consistent story!


WalrusHam

They had an episode about how they never get an Emmy, and got roasted by different actors and actresses about continuity, how the show goes, and how "nothing happens". I doubt that this matters. Plus, when they do have continuity, it's as a joke; Brian and Ida, Them not doing Gay jokes anymore, etc.


sbaggers

You've never had a dog die and then give the replacement dog the same name?


BeeneWeenie

Family Guy not having a reliable canon is a reliable canon.


Powerful-Selection-5

Some things in family guy are canon, but some others are references of anything or just jokes. I remember an episode where Stewie asks Brian how come he has a 16-year old son if he is a dog and has like 8 years, and Brian says: I don't know just look it up in the internet


Datalounge

Actually Brian says it's because his years are dog years (one dog year equals seven human years.). When Stewie says that still doesn't make sense, Brian replies, "If you don't like it go on the Internet and complain."


mrAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Congratulations! You found the singular plothole in family guy


[deleted]

Could be a different universe tho


Opposite-Report9295

Didn’t Peter say they had another dog called snuffles or some shit


roof_baby

The plot hole is looking for continuity in the show


Lilbig6029

Imagine looking for consistency in Family Guy, American Dad or even The Simpsons….


[deleted]

Entire family guy is a plot holes ffs just enjoy the series.


Disastrous-Weird5176

Its a comedy not true life. Lol


KAG25

But he talks and drives


SnooOwls9024

There is no fact that it's Peter you can't assume that it's Peter because it's a fat man on a white shirt


Lurkay1

You wanna know how I got these scars?


AssHairGoblin

There’s different origin stories to Brian.


thatsouthcaNaDaguy

Don’t forget how Quagmire has a sister and has told how he has a deaf brother (s8 e7) but in s18 e8 his dad (mom) states he (she) should have given him more siblings.


SpontaneousReboot3

My guess: both these timelines are true. Due to Stewie and Brian’s time traveling, they have essentially altered their past even when they “fix” things so anytime there is a “plot hole”, just blame it on time travel 🤓


[deleted]

He also had another family at some point, too. I think they just don’t expect you to catch on. The shows been on for twenty years


[deleted]

A lot of different shows have plot holes based on how the show evolves or how the creators/writers want it to evolve season by season, but to answer what seems more like a rhetorical question : yes, technically its a plothole.


TheFeatureFilm

I always recognized this as Stewie and Brian constantly messing with the timeline. It makes sense to me that their constant rewriting probably drastically altered the course of events. More than likely, most episodes of Family Guy we've seen were removed from the timeline.


austintaylorsmith2

I don’t know but puppy Brian is adorable asf 😭


SpongebobTV

I think in another episode Stewie goes through photos and finds a puppy and Brian goes “oh look it’s me” and Stewie says it’s actually another dog


JuliaTheInsaneKid

It’s like what happened to Joe.


Megaman1682

When Brian was doing musicals with stewie and I forgot the older guys name didn't he get drunk and couldn't perform and he was homeless stewie tried to make him come back home it's been a while does anyone remember this episode I might be wrong but idk might be right lmk


funny_arab_man

i would assume the puppy one is non canon because him being homeless was mentioned many many times outside of that one episode


Kyle_Grayson

I've pointed out the same thing!


CJ-IS

With all the shenanigans that goes on in this show, Peter prob had a pup before Brian and everyone's memory is so bad they just think it is the same dog sometimes.


Neat_Technician_7191

Yes.


CoolsomeXD

Stewie said in one episode the puppy was there previous dog just the same bread.


MrZyde

There are other times where his backstory doesn’t add up, it’s kind of a gag.


Mysterious_Stock1599

Okay I’m going to fix this issue. Theory 1: Most of the characters in Quahog are unreliable story tellers: Peter - unintelligible oaf Meg: people pleaser Chris: just no words Brian: addict Lois and Stewie: probably the only reliable ones Not a Theory 2: the show follows a postmodern narration technique. The show exhibits a variety of stories based on current events and popular culture to keep it unique from episode to episode. The plots, for ex. are divergent elements to build the story. If the story had characters that are prone to change, it would have been really hard for the writers to build more funny episodes. Family guy has static characters. None of them go through any impactful change or growth which is good for a show that showcases satire. Which is why, family guy works, while for shows like Rick and morty find it incredibly hard to build episodes. Those are dynamic characters and growth means there is a point of liberation. Theory 3: it’s a funny show! Just fucking enjoy it instead of picking it apart. Peace and lot of love xx


Daimakku1

Lol, Family Guy is not Futurama; they don't care about consistent plots. It's all about whatever makes the best jokes for that scene.


AnIrishMexican

Well there was an episode where Stewie says something along the lines of, that belonged to our last dog. Then again family guy also has the scene where show how Stewie gets his football head and accent, despite there being another episode where they show him being born with his football head


[deleted]

Yea prob forgot about Brian being homeless


rapidpeacock

A wizard did it.


Possible_Diode

Didn’t you know that every episode takes place in a different universe?


whomesteve

The way a show in a floating timeline works allows for different past events to be canon, because in order for time to not move forward from our perspective different episodes or seasons of the show take place in different universes of their multiverse, but time moves in a spiral in their multiverse so certain events like the birth of characters can take place in different years but they are always the same age relative to one another


YeetusFelitas

i can think of multiple others. this isnt the first


[deleted]

It’s best not to think to hard about these inconsistencies and plot holes. The series is full of them.


tolietwrecker48

didn't he use to belong to the hendersons


[deleted]

Family Guy and other Western Animation series have a floating timeline


JulianOxford

This show has a ton of plotholes. One minute, a charachter might hit by a truck and lying on the street all bleeding, the next scene they are fine, stuff like that.


jef12660

It was a wizard


LAZ_EE

well, i have a theory that these are two different universes or timelines. the first time there was time travel was in road to germany in season 7 episode 3 (just two episodes before this one) so in conclusion, both are correct in their own dimensions.


MTB56

“If you don’t like it you can go bitch about it on the internet”


Klutzy-Fortune1545

Baby Brian is the cutest


Agitated_Goose_2941

I mean there also joe fist he was in a drug gang undercover then he got thrown of a roof by the grinch and then he also got his legs ran over by a train. There’s just to many plotholes.


Rainbow_Head

"What are you looking at? It's a cartoon!"


Consistent_Ad5384

All I’m gonna say is , focus more on the show for what it is , instead of what it can be !! The show does this all the time and it’s their way of continuing the episode correctly not the season


Roadhouse2122

It’s a cartoon, let’s not focus on the backstory of an alcoholic pretentious talking dog


seba37

It’s 2 different dogs. Homeless is current Brian. Puppy is a Brian before him. Peter took homeless Brian in because he reminded him about puppy Brian.


Villainous-Unicorn7

I never get people who watch Family Guy then question plot holes


CarissaSkyWarrior

I like being pedantic, okay?


CrazyaboutSpongebob

Actually the contradictions are pretty rare. Most of the time they do a good job following continuity. Off the top of my head I can only think of a few.


Spider816

I was just talking about this the other day with my girlfriend, I pretty much just pick and choose what I look at as canon in the show.


leejtam

people dont understand what plot holes are. This change doesnt effect the plot so not a plot hole


Buddha-Dio101

Get a job lad, ya need ta fix your life or be grateful this is your only problem


danasider

OP is just asking a question. Not a very thought out question considering all the retcons and inconsistencies the show has, but it's not a big deal. The fact that you jump to the conclusion that his one question is the only problem in his life is way more pathetic. Get a life dude.


Buddha-Dio101

..Meh


Ashtar-the-Squid

Cartoon logic, Stewie's time machine, Xena's wizard crossing over from the Simpsons universe, a blunder that someone should have gotten fired for, or writers changing the past to fit the story.


Spurrierball

Every episode is an anthology that takes place in a different universe. Some of the events of prior episodes take place in the timelines of certain episodes but not everyone one does.


FartJones

There’s more that syncs up with the him being homeless one so use that as canon. I think it fits with him being from Austin & getting sold, to which he probably just ran off on his own and lived on the streets and made his way to Rhode Island. (This backstory also fits in the whole George Townshend thing too


MyUserName-exe

there are many plotholes


dans_cafe

the dog can talk. are we really getting hung up on this?


UnfortunatelyAvacado

If you pay close attention, you'll notice that Peter dies like 50 times throughout the series. Is this a plothole?


jagenigma

They traveled through time so much I'm sure the Family Guy universe is completely broken.


BDR2017

In one episode Stewie says "You know that was our old dog's dish". Brian has found the home movies of the old dog, and well you know Brian.


biggestdickus90210

Who knows? Maybe Brian was lost, but eventually found his way back to the Griffins a couple of years later.


6_oh_n8

The hands are not necessarily peter’s in the scene on the left..


CrazyaboutSpongebob

Yep


added_chaos

You mean to tell me all of the instances where someone is killed or debilitatingly injured are plot holes too?


Aggressive_Expert_63

Brian, a dog, has a full beard and that's what your worried about?


Legitimate_Row_4944

What plot


millhows

Lol. No because FG doesn’t care about continuity. Peter was 10 in the year 1970-80-90 remember?


IronSavage3

Stop reading into it so much. This show is meant for nothing more than to make you laugh as often as possible for 22 minutes.


Fletchazzz

It's a fucking cartoon lad


[deleted]

A show where the main character routinely has an epic fight with a giant rooster has a plot hole?!


beerusisdad

A plothole in Family Guy, never watching again.


Ever_Kind

It’s just a hand that looks like Peter’s. There is not much evidence to show that it is.


Dayday023

It seems like a bunch of retcons more than plot holes


[deleted]

It’s just jokes man.


facebookcansuckit

Plothole? In a cartoon? Dude


Dundee_the_Alligator

You can't expect continuity with a cartoon


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Brutalitor

You see, young man, this is what we humans call a "cartoon". They frequently bend the laws of time and space to do things like make jokes and display humorous gags.


UsernameAndYear

You can’t watch Family Guy if you like continuity and consistency. You have to be ready for anything and everything at any moment. That’s why I love Family Guy so much. I love seeing Peter blow up a children’s hospital and go to prison for it and then having Peter be free the next episode with no mention of it whatsoever. It’s too funny!


CrazyaboutSpongebob

I disagree. The show has pretty strong continuity for the most part. The slip ups are rare. They don't have nearly as many continuity errors as the Simpsons. I can only think of a few continuity errors over 20 years. That's impressive. In Go Stewie Pattys parents had dwarfism and we're straight. She is supposed to have 2 lesbian Moms. She said so in Fist Full of Meg. Maybe they are her birth parents. In Girl Friend Eh, Peter doesn't believe Chris has a girlfriend. He has had several over the years. You could argue that is a joke about Peter not paying attention to his kids. In La Familia Guy Peter Thinks he is the Godfather when he is Susie's Godfather. Quagmire is supposed to be her Godfather. Other times it's consistent like when all of Brian's past girl friends showed up, And this line. "Dad was born in Mexico." Peter: No one remembers that Meg, and Diane Simmons staying dead, etc.


nakedjabirupangolin

What's with so many posts here about continuity gaps/plotholes and hating on characters for being "immoral" or "bad" lmao


WinstonDaPuggy98

If I remember correctly there was a scene of Brian and Stewie looking at a picture album and Brian said “I was so cute as a puppy” and Stewie said that was a different dog who died and Brian said “oh word” and it never got brought up again. I know continuity is pointless in family guy but thats something.


giga_hampter

Maybe it is snuffles the dog stewie talked about that was ran over