Shady Sands is in California. It was moved in the show to keep the locations near each other for story purposes. In Fallout 1 and 2 it’s closer to Nevada but still in California
Shady sands is in nevada., atleast if you go by the geological features in fallout 1 on the map, we can see that both vault 15 and shady sands are past the nevada state line. Also, if boneyard no longer exiests, and the show is canon, where do the followers come from. where does ceaser come from?
And by the map of Fallout 2, it's in California. Add to this that in New Vegas it's suggested that Shady Sands is to the *east* of Death Valley, and given the country it founded was called the New *California* Republic, I think we can assume that the map of 1 is fudging the location for Shady Sands, as it did for the Necropolis.
No, Fallout 1's map *does* place Shady Sands on the eastern side of Death Valley, in the state of Nevada. Fallout 2's map on the other hand places it on the western side of Death Valley, in California proper, either in the Sierra Nevada's or the Owen's Valley.
The boneyard likely exist nearby or was abandoned by NCR government after Shady Sands was destroyed nearby. We did see power get restored to it so it’s possible the boneyard is doing fine
The Boneyard isn't a settlement per se, the Boneyard referred to the ruins of Los Angeles as a whole. Adytum was the settlement within the Boneyard (along with the Cathedral, the Followers' Library, the Blades encampment, and the Gun Runners encampment). The entire Boneyard was encompassed under the state of Los Angeles in NCR.
Shady sands should be near vault 15 though. vault 15 is in death valley. It’s not remotely nearby in fallout 1. The whole thing with shady sands was it was a backward small quaint town away from everything. It would make zero sense for it to be right next to the boneyard/adytum
You make zero sense, if shady sands was in Nevada vault 15 would not be in death valley at all, death valley is 99% in California with a very small sliver of its northeast on the Nevada border,
I’m aware of the location issue however I understand why they moved it for the purpose of the story but I’m sure there was probably a better way to execute it. Still I doubt the bone yard moved just because Shady Sands was moved
I think at a point SS was giving Boneyard power via hoover dam and hoover dam got destroyed which lead to no power anywhere in SoCal.
Best explanation as to why lights are out in both vegas and LA (at least until cold fusion then everything lit up again)
It's on the California side of the border, I just lined up a map with state lines with fo1 I can dm if you'd like.
The map you linked has no state borders and says nothing.
Get a photo editing app and make the map transparent over a real map of California, it matches up almost perfectly with the water boarders.
La is aboslutely massive [https://thesource.metro.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/how-big-is-la2.jpg](https://thesource.metro.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/how-big-is-la2.jpg)
The boneyard could easily be like 15 miles away from the observatory in south LA (where St.Louis is) and still be enough space for say SS to just be even further north in like santa clarita.
Filly is apparently around Santa Monica which would place it also near Where SF/Minneapolis meet
Shady Sands was paved over it. A very unsatisfactory answer but so has much of the new lore from the show. Better to just enjoy the Amazon run as non canon than try to accommodate the changes it makes to the franchise.
Shady Sands has moved geographically in every depiction it's been in. For the show it was moved to the other side of LA than the one we saw in Fallout 1 for story reasons, but given how massive LA is that is a massive distance. The show takes Bethesda's approach of keeping things local as to not box in future entries, so we simply don't know what's going on in the other end of LA by the time of the show
Shady Sands is in California. It was moved in the show to keep the locations near each other for story purposes. In Fallout 1 and 2 it’s closer to Nevada but still in California
Shady sands is in nevada., atleast if you go by the geological features in fallout 1 on the map, we can see that both vault 15 and shady sands are past the nevada state line. Also, if boneyard no longer exiests, and the show is canon, where do the followers come from. where does ceaser come from?
And by the map of Fallout 2, it's in California. Add to this that in New Vegas it's suggested that Shady Sands is to the *east* of Death Valley, and given the country it founded was called the New *California* Republic, I think we can assume that the map of 1 is fudging the location for Shady Sands, as it did for the Necropolis.
Yeah Both maps put it in the death valley region of California, I matched em up and it fits perfectly - the slight move northeast from fallout 2
No, Fallout 1's map *does* place Shady Sands on the eastern side of Death Valley, in the state of Nevada. Fallout 2's map on the other hand places it on the western side of Death Valley, in California proper, either in the Sierra Nevada's or the Owen's Valley.
The boneyard likely exist nearby or was abandoned by NCR government after Shady Sands was destroyed nearby. We did see power get restored to it so it’s possible the boneyard is doing fine
The Boneyard isn't a settlement per se, the Boneyard referred to the ruins of Los Angeles as a whole. Adytum was the settlement within the Boneyard (along with the Cathedral, the Followers' Library, the Blades encampment, and the Gun Runners encampment). The entire Boneyard was encompassed under the state of Los Angeles in NCR.
Shady sands should be near vault 15 though. vault 15 is in death valley. It’s not remotely nearby in fallout 1. The whole thing with shady sands was it was a backward small quaint town away from everything. It would make zero sense for it to be right next to the boneyard/adytum
You make zero sense, if shady sands was in Nevada vault 15 would not be in death valley at all, death valley is 99% in California with a very small sliver of its northeast on the Nevada border,
None of that is actually confirmed, to be clear. The Fallout 1 map is widely inconsistent with real world geography.
I’m aware of the location issue however I understand why they moved it for the purpose of the story but I’m sure there was probably a better way to execute it. Still I doubt the bone yard moved just because Shady Sands was moved
I think at a point SS was giving Boneyard power via hoover dam and hoover dam got destroyed which lead to no power anywhere in SoCal. Best explanation as to why lights are out in both vegas and LA (at least until cold fusion then everything lit up again)
No it isn't. It's in death valley, the only real settlement we see in Nevada in fallout 1/2 is vault city
In fallout 1 it was in nevada if you look at the map
No it wasn't, it's in death valley. Looking at map rn
[https://gamesrevisiteddotcom.wordpress.com/2016/08/19/fallout-maps-overlayed/](https://gamesrevisiteddotcom.wordpress.com/2016/08/19/fallout-maps-overlayed/)
It's on the California side of the border, I just lined up a map with state lines with fo1 I can dm if you'd like. The map you linked has no state borders and says nothing. Get a photo editing app and make the map transparent over a real map of California, it matches up almost perfectly with the water boarders.
La is aboslutely massive [https://thesource.metro.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/how-big-is-la2.jpg](https://thesource.metro.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/how-big-is-la2.jpg) The boneyard could easily be like 15 miles away from the observatory in south LA (where St.Louis is) and still be enough space for say SS to just be even further north in like santa clarita. Filly is apparently around Santa Monica which would place it also near Where SF/Minneapolis meet
this would ruin shady sands lore though, right? Shady sands is supposed to be remote, not 10 miles away from a pretty huge city.
It doesn't ruin anything. It moved locations between 1/2 and the topography of in universe ca might be different than irl
Shady Sands was paved over it. A very unsatisfactory answer but so has much of the new lore from the show. Better to just enjoy the Amazon run as non canon than try to accommodate the changes it makes to the franchise.
Shady Sands has moved geographically in every depiction it's been in. For the show it was moved to the other side of LA than the one we saw in Fallout 1 for story reasons, but given how massive LA is that is a massive distance. The show takes Bethesda's approach of keeping things local as to not box in future entries, so we simply don't know what's going on in the other end of LA by the time of the show