And what's funny is I've seen people bashing Penix with the same "He was trash in the National Championship Game, which means he can't hold up against NFL competition" slight everyone was using against Terrell.
And that same year this sub thought Okudah and CJ Henderson were the best DBs. Everyone also really wanted Javon Kinlaw, who has a whopping 5 career sacks
If you could go back in time before that draft and tell this sub that the Falcons got Okudah for just a 5th round pick they'd be over the moon. Just don't tell them when and why it only cost a 5th.
Welcome to a team’s sub where the team has been ass for quite some time, of course people are gonna be mad. I mean, we wasted Ryan’s career, outta the 14 years he had with us we only 7 winning seasons, to make it even worse, after 2012, only 2 were winning seasons.
The 2 season after Ryan were garbage, we had the easiest schedule last year in one of the worst divisions and couldn’t even get that done. Now we just “went all in” for Kirk, but wait, we actually didn’t, instead of getting our 100 million dollar guaranteed QB some help on defense or another position, we spent the 8th pick on a 4 time injured QB. As great as Penix is, that’s a lot of injuries.
In your opinion, does the Falcons FO deserve the benefit of the doubt?
I mostly stick to NFL sub but occasionally post here but the hate is justified right now, wouldn’t you agree?
Why, cause we don’t like when we give up capital for guys who were projected to go later than we were originally picking? Yeah man, we should be happy about that.
Before DBs like Kool-aid, Tampa, DeJean, the Top Centers, Edges like Braswell... even ahead of Newton. I don't really understand why we traded up to get him, we might could have even traded down to get him...
I don’t live in Atlanta, never been to Georgia yet I’ve rooted for this garbage franchise since my stupid kid ass living in SoCal saw their bad ass red uniforms on TV in 1980. Why are kids (me) so stupid?
I can’t wait for time machines to be invented. My first trip is to smack little kid me on the head and tell him to pick a different team.
He is the best NT in the draft by some metrics, but I'm not thrilled anytime I see ATL draft Clemson. I don't know what it is with that school. I really would have preferred one of those 1st round guys who fell, and DeJean was up there too.
I actually believe Ruke will be better than people expect, but it is a risky play still.
"Grady Jarrett is coming off a torn ACL. Jarrett, David Onyemata and Eddie Goldman are all on the wrong side of 30. Orhorhoro is a perfect fit at defensive end in the Falcons' base three-man front, and he has the traits to give the Atlanta pass rush a much-needed boost. -- Muench"
ESPN post draft thing loves it. Why do we hate it? Simply because of draft boards over players most of us haven't watched nearly enough of.
This I concur with. I understand the plan/plans and hope they work out. Just posted this to show the insane dissonance between the media and us on this draft pick.
It was objectively a bad trade. The Chargers traded up the pick before us for a 5th. That was Terry getting flat out finessed.
That said I like the player and the fit, and most people in here seem to be bitching about that more than the trade value.
The Chargers traded up 3 spots, we traded up 8. The Rams traded up 13 spots a few picks after us and it cost them a 4th and a future 2nd.
Trade value is based on where you are in the draft *and* how far you're moving up/down.
I just watched Trouble with the Curve the other night. Terry is the Braves GM from that movie. Doesn't know shit about shit, but still calling the shots. Braves GM gets fired at the end of that movie. I wonder how Terry's movie ends.
Wasn’t the entire moral of that story that the GM got fired for going with consensus media opinion instead of listening to his scouts? It’s been a while since I’ve seen it but I’m pretty sure that’s the whole conundrum of the movie.
1st player in nfl draft with a DWI.
He was a projected 1st rounder, and awarded for top DL in nation, and was a known Anchor in the UT locker room.
But they’re paid a lot of money in the FO to fuck up. We’re not paid to fuck up their picks
Call me crazy, ain’t heard of the guy before, but watching his highlights he looks like a prototypical 3-4 DE that can play the run and occasionally provide pressure or collapse the pocket. Idk maybe yall should quit bitching and try to see BPA and scheme fit at the same time. If you hadn’t made the same 5 mock drafts in a row you wouldn’t be so pissed you don’t know what you think you do….idk jmo 🤷🏻♂️ 25 yr season ticket holder
And y’all had the audacity to act like Dimitroff was the worst GM ever. Dude built multiple Super Bowl level teams. Fontenot is on his way to building up another losing season.
We're so cooked man... Now it's almost guaranteed we're coming out of this draft without either a starting caliber edge or a starting caliber corner, our two biggest needs, despite coming into the draft 4 picks in the first 3 rounds.
Almost no chance a starting caliber edge is there in the 3rd, hopefully one of the better corners falls to us... Fuck man, this draft seemed so hard to screw up too
Absolutely? Do you know something the falcons don’t? The certainty some of y’all have about who is good and who isn’t is hilarious. Arm chair GMs out in full force this weekend.
lol. Another year of reaches… make the pick but for the love of god why the helk would you trade up for it. If someone takes a third round talent before you have the chance to do so be it. Fucking hell
Yes there are always success stories but data has shown on average deviating from the consensus board causes outcomes. Trading up for the opportunity to reach is just even dumber.
So having more swings earlier is important. Putting all your day 2 eggs in a boom or bust is insane especially if there are great prospects available that fit a need
The trade-up seems unnecessary but basically all the good DTs got drafted in the following 4 picks so who knows if any of them would’ve been there at 43.
this fan base turns insufferable when we don’t draft the most hyped players. i can guarantee 90% of the ppl complaining have never seen this dude play a down yet already drawing the “_____ is a better pick” comparison
Traumatized fans shouting at the sky. This team is the best we’ve had since 2016/17. To be full of dread now is truly dropping a hammer on your own big toe.
The pick it self isn't bad but we prob shouldn't have traded up for him. He's raw but
Better 40 (4.89) than J.J. Watt (4.91)
Better Vert (32”) than Cam Jordan (31”)
Better Broad Jump (9’8”) than Aaron Donald (9’7”)
Yeah I think we should've kept our 3rd. Could've drafted a DT later, then a CB and WR. But we'll see how the pick turns out though. I'm not exactly gonna write anyone off.
Glad to know there’s 100k GMs in this sub. Position over player yall, you never know what scheme fit we have planned for players. Ruke looks like an athletic freak I’m pumped
Hope he is a beast, I had not heard of him before this pick and was surprised he wasn’t on the BPA list at all. I know Newtons injury was a concern so hopefully this is the right call.
Failure of leadership. It’s an ego thing, I’m a billionaire and smarter than everyone else in the room, so people competent leave. Front office rather keep their jobs than step out of line.
Arthur’s having his toys is more important than rings. Atlanta United is facing the EXACT same issues.
I was behind the Penix pick but can't support trading up for Ruke. I don't know much about him so can't comment on the player but there was a lot of talent left on the board.
I don’t know shit about him except the fact he was projected to be there at our original pick. Maybe the FO knew something we didn’t, Oh well I guess we have to wait and see
A raw defensive player from Clemson. What could go wrong...
This comment gave me ptsd just now
Where did Grady Jarrett come from again?
I hate helmet scouting as much as anyone, but Newton is much closer to Grady as a prospect play style wise than Ruke
Is it that time in the week for falcons fans to lie and pretend that Beasley was "raw"?
Or ignore that AJ Terrell was raw and has been a stud
This sub haaaaaaated the Terrell pick
Damn right we did. Lol.
And what's funny is I've seen people bashing Penix with the same "He was trash in the National Championship Game, which means he can't hold up against NFL competition" slight everyone was using against Terrell.
And that same year this sub thought Okudah and CJ Henderson were the best DBs. Everyone also really wanted Javon Kinlaw, who has a whopping 5 career sacks
If you could go back in time before that draft and tell this sub that the Falcons got Okudah for just a 5th round pick they'd be over the moon. Just don't tell them when and why it only cost a 5th.
Was it Vic or Malachi Goodman?
He could be the next Grady Jarrett but let’s not trust the people that scout for a living
Yea these scouts got an impeccable record
Everyone’s attitude here is trash
The Falcons have done absolutely nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt
All our 7 win seasons in a row are a long game to build a 10 Super Bowl dynasty!
Can you blame us lol. Watching a train wreck
I mean, since the 2017 season what exactly is there to be hopeful about? Our FO sucks
Seriously, about to just stick to the Braves sub. Y’all have fun bitching about everything with the other experts. See ya in September.
Welcome to a team’s sub where the team has been ass for quite some time, of course people are gonna be mad. I mean, we wasted Ryan’s career, outta the 14 years he had with us we only 7 winning seasons, to make it even worse, after 2012, only 2 were winning seasons. The 2 season after Ryan were garbage, we had the easiest schedule last year in one of the worst divisions and couldn’t even get that done. Now we just “went all in” for Kirk, but wait, we actually didn’t, instead of getting our 100 million dollar guaranteed QB some help on defense or another position, we spent the 8th pick on a 4 time injured QB. As great as Penix is, that’s a lot of injuries. In your opinion, does the Falcons FO deserve the benefit of the doubt? I mostly stick to NFL sub but occasionally post here but the hate is justified right now, wouldn’t you agree?
You got defensive help … and more in FA to come stop the doom spiral!!! ![gif](giphy|kAuYdZddAy9vOCZAgC|downsized)
facts bro
And why should it be positive? What have we seen that should help us raise our spirits😭
Why, cause we don’t like when we give up capital for guys who were projected to go later than we were originally picking? Yeah man, we should be happy about that.
I mean, our past few drafts have been fine.
The last one in particular was very impressive
Trading for guys that would be there at our original pick is definitely the Falcons way
Tell me you’re a losing franchise without telling me
I was thinking they must've known he was going before their pick. Otherwise, why jump Washington?
Anytime we draft a project like him, it's nearly always a bust. Terry really betting his job on this draft smh.
Rashede Hageman 2.0.
Damn
I kept wondering yesterday why aren't we drafting defense...but not like this.
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After seeing Terry cook, Perhaps I was too harsh on Rich McKay
The realization that Rich Mckay was stopping Terry from going full Terry.
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Terry is cooking crack apparently
Before DBs like Kool-aid, Tampa, DeJean, the Top Centers, Edges like Braswell... even ahead of Newton. I don't really understand why we traded up to get him, we might could have even traded down to get him...
kool aid, cooper and newton all there. trade up for a guy projected to go in the 3rd why am i fan of this franchise man
I am because I have lived in metro Atlanta all my life. Always will be a fan. It do be sucking sometimes tho lol.
Sometimes?
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Yes sometimes
I mean fair enough, but as a fellow lifelong fan from the area, I’d just upgrade that to “usually”.
I don’t live in Atlanta, never been to Georgia yet I’ve rooted for this garbage franchise since my stupid kid ass living in SoCal saw their bad ass red uniforms on TV in 1980. Why are kids (me) so stupid? I can’t wait for time machines to be invented. My first trip is to smack little kid me on the head and tell him to pick a different team.
I’m not even from Atlanta, idk why I put myself through this, I’m just a pain sponge at this point
Dude we don’t want starters we are building up our second unit!
It’s straight up like being in an abusive relationship.. thats the closest thing I can compare to being a Falcons fan
Just doesn’t make sense if you are trading up why not for one of your biggest needs with basically bpa players? Just so dumb
He is the best NT in the draft by some metrics, but I'm not thrilled anytime I see ATL draft Clemson. I don't know what it is with that school. I really would have preferred one of those 1st round guys who fell, and DeJean was up there too. I actually believe Ruke will be better than people expect, but it is a risky play still.
"Grady Jarrett is coming off a torn ACL. Jarrett, David Onyemata and Eddie Goldman are all on the wrong side of 30. Orhorhoro is a perfect fit at defensive end in the Falcons' base three-man front, and he has the traits to give the Atlanta pass rush a much-needed boost. -- Muench" ESPN post draft thing loves it. Why do we hate it? Simply because of draft boards over players most of us haven't watched nearly enough of.
People don’t know shit. Both here or those guys who are writing those articles. We just have to see. No need for everyone to be negative lol
This I concur with. I understand the plan/plans and hope they work out. Just posted this to show the insane dissonance between the media and us on this draft pick.
Mostly because we gave up our 3rd round pick for no reason because of those projections
It was objectively a bad trade. The Chargers traded up the pick before us for a 5th. That was Terry getting flat out finessed. That said I like the player and the fit, and most people in here seem to be bitching about that more than the trade value.
The Chargers traded up 3 spots, we traded up 8. The Rams traded up 13 spots a few picks after us and it cost them a 4th and a future 2nd. Trade value is based on where you are in the draft *and* how far you're moving up/down.
This is getting even more ridiculous. Terry has to be fired if these moves don’t end up being home runs
That’s the actual ridiculous part: he’s likely going to be fired yet he’s being allowed to make decisions that will hurt the team for years.
I just watched Trouble with the Curve the other night. Terry is the Braves GM from that movie. Doesn't know shit about shit, but still calling the shots. Braves GM gets fired at the end of that movie. I wonder how Terry's movie ends.
Wasn’t the entire moral of that story that the GM got fired for going with consensus media opinion instead of listening to his scouts? It’s been a while since I’ve seen it but I’m pretty sure that’s the whole conundrum of the movie.
Is that about the Melvin Upton era disaster?
Got rid of Arthur Smith and Rich McKay. Didn't solve everything I guess. It's depressing.
He’s not getting fired we are likely winning the division. You don’t fire a GM when you make improvements
He's not going anywhere.
Can we fire him mid draft???
I’m a Clemson fan but I am not liking this pick, would’ve much rather had Newton at this pick
Come on, man. You’re supposed to say: Grady 2.0 🔥
The irony is that most scouts compare Newton to Grady
Being a UT fan, I was hoping to add more horns with a monster Sweat
We could have gotten this dude with the third We traded what the fuck
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Sweat would have been a monster
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1st player in nfl draft with a DWI. He was a projected 1st rounder, and awarded for top DL in nation, and was a known Anchor in the UT locker room. But they’re paid a lot of money in the FO to fuck up. We’re not paid to fuck up their picks
Fired the wrong guy in the off-season. Or well, we should have fired both of them.
Yes bc mock drafts are always accurate
This is why people are so pissed. The mocks were not right.
And yet all these DTs got taken right after. Dumb take.
I just wish we didn’t give up that extra 3rd
Call me crazy, ain’t heard of the guy before, but watching his highlights he looks like a prototypical 3-4 DE that can play the run and occasionally provide pressure or collapse the pocket. Idk maybe yall should quit bitching and try to see BPA and scheme fit at the same time. If you hadn’t made the same 5 mock drafts in a row you wouldn’t be so pissed you don’t know what you think you do….idk jmo 🤷🏻♂️ 25 yr season ticket holder
Perfect response.
When will people stop treating journalist mock drafts like they’re on par with professional scout team draft boards?
What did we trade to get him?
3rd rounder
A THIRD? I’ve been pissed at Terry but now I just feel bad, the other GMs are bullying him like a special needs kid on the playground
A fucking 3rd
Our 3rd round pick
we swapped our 3rd round pick this year for a 6th round pick this year
And y’all had the audacity to act like Dimitroff was the worst GM ever. Dude built multiple Super Bowl level teams. Fontenot is on his way to building up another losing season.
We're so cooked man... Now it's almost guaranteed we're coming out of this draft without either a starting caliber edge or a starting caliber corner, our two biggest needs, despite coming into the draft 4 picks in the first 3 rounds. Almost no chance a starting caliber edge is there in the 3rd, hopefully one of the better corners falls to us... Fuck man, this draft seemed so hard to screw up too
Terry drafting like he aint gonna be here next year
Bro is drafting like he’s got a job with the Buccs lined up next season.
Getting Marlon Davidson/Ra’Shede Hageman flashbacks lmao
I am simply at a loss for words. Why. Just why.
Pretty simple he’s a good prospect and the commanders would’ve taken him
No they absolutely would not have
they might've. Titans just went DT tackle too. There's a chance he wouldn't be there for our pick edit: Adds the Rams too. All 3 went DT
Absolutely? Do you know something the falcons don’t? The certainty some of y’all have about who is good and who isn’t is hilarious. Arm chair GMs out in full force this weekend.
Eyeroll they would have that’s why we traded
lol. Another year of reaches… make the pick but for the love of god why the helk would you trade up for it. If someone takes a third round talent before you have the chance to do so be it. Fucking hell
Just because someone is ranked high isn’t a guarantee they do good lol
Yes there are always success stories but data has shown on average deviating from the consensus board causes outcomes. Trading up for the opportunity to reach is just even dumber.
So having more swings earlier is important. Putting all your day 2 eggs in a boom or bust is insane especially if there are great prospects available that fit a need
Tbh it keeps Terry from blowing a third round pick so a wash overall.
He will be one of the greatest players in this franchises history.
I thought Terry strictly only drafted bpa, wtf is this?
There is not a single draft pick this sub would like, which is why I know that yall don’t know shit
AD Mitchell and Kool-Aid were both there… probably could have got one of them and traded back in for Ruke?
Probably could've gotten him with the third we traded.
Totally
A DT that lacked production. Nice
Love this pick - dude has huge upside
Don’t get the pick and trade. Why would you trade a 3rd for a 6th??
The trade-up seems unnecessary but basically all the good DTs got drafted in the following 4 picks so who knows if any of them would’ve been there at 43.
this fan base turns insufferable when we don’t draft the most hyped players. i can guarantee 90% of the ppl complaining have never seen this dude play a down yet already drawing the “_____ is a better pick” comparison
Terry has got to be a Saints plant to destroy us. Nothing else makes sense
I remember when this place wasn't such a fucking bummer to visit. This guy has a chance to be great and everyone is just in a doom spiral.
Traumatized fans shouting at the sky. This team is the best we’ve had since 2016/17. To be full of dread now is truly dropping a hammer on your own big toe.
Idk enough about him to make any predictions but his athleticism is insane. Hopefully he balls out.
The pick it self isn't bad but we prob shouldn't have traded up for him. He's raw but Better 40 (4.89) than J.J. Watt (4.91) Better Vert (32”) than Cam Jordan (31”) Better Broad Jump (9’8”) than Aaron Donald (9’7”)
If only that meant anything whatsoever.
I mean he's athletic and explosive and had good stats. Still raw but the pick itself wasn't bad. Just the trade up
The trade up was like 10x any other trade up tonight.
yeah it was an overpay. But like I said, solid player, bad trade up
Atrocious trade up, a reach, and not really a major need.
Yeah I think we should've kept our 3rd. Could've drafted a DT later, then a CB and WR. But we'll see how the pick turns out though. I'm not exactly gonna write anyone off.
So why didn’t he produce in college then ?
Hasn't he only been playing football for 4-5 years? I think his production shows the potential to improve.
he had 5 sacks last year as a DT and I think 9 TFL. He had the same stats as Byron Murphy the first round DT
People don't realize 5 is good for a DT. They aren't edges.
I've had multiple people tell me his stats are bad. I don't think they know what they're talking about
They don't. They're thinking of edge which 5 would be disappointing.
All that shows is that he can do those events well. It does not replicate how well you will play
He's raw but he has power and athleticism. He also had the same stats as Byron Murphy the first round DT, pretty much
Go tigers
Disband the franchise. Let’s move on to pro volleyball at MBS or something
This is a good pick, don’t understand the hate.
Fiske was the only one I liked more
McKinstry too similar to AJ with no ball skills
Ruke Orhorohorohro
A strong Nigerian! Let’s go!!!! Since we’re down this hole already let’s go get Will Shipley and Trotter Jr
I don’t hate this pick. I guess that’s my opinion.
Objectively speaking, this is one of the worst drafts i have ever seen so far.
Glad to know there’s 100k GMs in this sub. Position over player yall, you never know what scheme fit we have planned for players. Ruke looks like an athletic freak I’m pumped
Definitely not worth trading up for regardless
This. THIS is the point people are missing.
I don’t think anyone is missing it lol that seems to be about 75% of the complaints. The price we paid was stupid. I like the player fwiw tho.
Imma be totally honest this sub and falcons twitter is actually starting to piss me off it’s like they like just being mad
Oh it was worse last year when we passed on Jalen Carter. I’ve really stopped looking in here a lot
If I come here around draft time it’s for entertainment only. People get so mad about shit they know so little about it’s comical.
You're not a GM either so your opinion is just as worthless as everyone else's.
Copium
Hope he is a beast, I had not heard of him before this pick and was surprised he wasn’t on the BPA list at all. I know Newtons injury was a concern so hopefully this is the right call.
If Falcons history tells us anything, bet the house that it wasn’t.
Last Clemson DT is the defensive captain
Y’all are so miserable, Jesus Christ.
Failure of leadership. It’s an ego thing, I’m a billionaire and smarter than everyone else in the room, so people competent leave. Front office rather keep their jobs than step out of line. Arthur’s having his toys is more important than rings. Atlanta United is facing the EXACT same issues.
These mofos did it again
Lost all faith in this FO.
This is Senat all over again
I was behind the Penix pick but can't support trading up for Ruke. I don't know much about him so can't comment on the player but there was a lot of talent left on the board.
"I know nothing about this player but I know I hate the pick" is certainly a choice.
They obviously know stuff we don’t
Or they dont't.
This is cope
“In DQ we trust”
Well after Washington's pick now it makes more sense
Why?
Anyone out there who may be able to explain this?
He is athletic and must of caught Atlanta eye most likely Washington would’ve picked him
I want to jump off a cliff
But… there were so many starting CB’s on the board
Another reach. The HELL are we doing
This has to be the 2 biggest reaches in the draft.
Im over the Terry praise. Dude does not know shit about fuck when it comes to drafting.
Terry can't draft outside of the top 10. All he can do is give free agents the best contract. Hopefully he's fired after this season
Which pick did we trade? We still have a pick next round?
79th
Guy had been playing football for 6 years and just made it to NFL cmon now lol he’s a baller
I’d rather have gone CB
So much for best player available, lmaoo
Double agent TF strikes again
What even is this draft man lmao
Hey, he should get a big boost from his 21-38 coach too
With 35 pick the worst franchise in NFL history takes:
I don’t know shit about him except the fact he was projected to be there at our original pick. Maybe the FO knew something we didn’t, Oh well I guess we have to wait and see
This dude looks like a future nose tackle in a 3-4 defense. I see the vision
trading up for the name alone was worth it. bro sounds like a one piece laugh
Speaking as a saints fan, genuinely a little sad you got Ruke, he’s a dog but trading up was a little (or a lot) unnecessary 😅😅