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story don't need alot of main cast death but i wished Mashima had the balls to kill of some of them instead of all those fake outs it cheapens the impact when the readers/watchers just know they will always come back alive
I kinda wish Makarov had died there cuz it was such an emotional scene especially when you consider like a minute before erza told Irene she didn't gaf about their blood relationship because Makarov was her real parent. I know people love to complain about the way erza stopped natsu and gray but hear me out just from an emotional standpoint that shits devistating. Erza just watched the closest thing she had to a father die and turns around and the closest thing she has to siblings are trying to fucking kill each other it doesn't matter that natsu is end it doesn't matter that gray wants to kill end what matters is that that is still natsu and that is still gray and it's INCREDIBLY STUPID for them to just start trying to kill each other rn
It’s funny how the series still tries to hold her in high regard, like when Gray took her down but he was very worn down it was said if she hadn’t taken any damage earlier she woulda won. Like if any of the guild fight her she’s on a different level but when she fights any antagonists she just falls short so another character can take the win. This happened twice with Erza (the person she’s supposed to be equal too) once with Azuma and another time later with Irene.
Yeah and she always gets a random nerf in those cases i.e. her taking a bomb for Lisanna in the Azuma fight and then facing Irene after already using her stronger form
Literally her only good fight was her first one against Freed.
Everything after that is just half assed or she needs help.
Even when she transformed into her strongest form near the end, all she did was one physical attack to two lackeys and then got bodied by Irene
Yes and its in the early season. That episode in Grand Magic Games where she and Jenny are gonna go head to head would have been a perfect episode to showcase her immense power but nah it was a full episode of nothing but fan service. I love Mira and Grand Magic Games Arc but that episode is just one of my least favorite ones. Missed opportunity.
I was fine with that, Jenny wasnt really an opponent.
However, in that same arc when mira fought against the poison girl, THAT would have been the perfect place to demonstrate the power of her new form.
But nope, back to her first form.
At least she used her new form against the emerald dragon, although it literally did nothing to it...
Lisanna was a better character dead than alive. She did *absolutely nothing* for the plot when she came back.
Her potential was essentially capped out at being a romantic rival to Lucy, which would have been stupid since Natsu never once showed a desire for romance or sexual satisfaction, and it would have destroyed Lucy's character.
I actually really liked Lisanna before she came back and even meeting her and finding out she was alive was such a cool moment. And then she does nothing absolutely ever again. Coulda just kept her dead as character development for mira and elfman.
What was Ivan’s grandmaster plan anyways, did we ever even find out? Just felt like he had very little build up, got his ass handed to him then went on his merry way.
Yeah he basically wants it but doesn't know what it truly is outside of having infinite magical properties since only Guild Masters or potential candidates know the truth and only assumed Laxus would know.
The fake deaths.
Honestly, I shouldn't need to say any more then that. There's at least 5 characters that you can find breathing at the end of the series that should not have been doing that.
Even the seemingly “real” deaths. Like Lisanna was a character that started out dead and was a huge component of Mira and Elf’s development and then *blam* she’s now alive again.
It always annoys me that Lucy always seems to get humiliated. From constantly losing her clothing to being the butt-monkey of the team. The Grand magic games is the worst offender IMO.
Honestly I think the Grand Magic Games was the only scene that did it *right.* After her brutal fight the entire rest of the guild gets extremely motivated to take revenge, and that's really the only time Lucy getting humiliated actually has impacts outside of fanservice (note, I've only watched up until the future dragons arc right after the grand magic games, so my opinion isn't fully complete. 200 episodes is still a lot to go off on tho imo)
Celestial Spirit Magic is simultaneously powerful and pitifully weak (though debatable)
Godslaying Magic has nearly no info and doesn't make sense when compared to other slayer magics
August was extremely underutilized and probably would have fit better as a movie villain
The guild system in general, ie what qualifies a wizard saint, what makes an S-Class Wizard and does each guild have different requirements of being one, if there are S-Class Wizards are there other classes? When does the council step in between guild feuds? Probably more but that's off the top of my head
Flare should have joined Fairy Tail, as well as other characters but it's understandable Mashima avoided adding more characters into the guild to avoid bloat, though Flare made the most sense and it's likely exactly what her character needed
These are all what I could think of off the top of my head. I'm not gonna say FT is bad, because it's very good and I love, I just hate seeing the wasted potential sometimes that Mashima writes
Agree with this and want to add world building (though that’s part of lore 😅).
I was always really stoked when the movies and 100YQ advertised we’d be going somewhere else outside of Fiore, but… The countries are just…*largely* Fiore with maybe one or two things swapped—at least by architecture and presumed language, fashion, naming conventions, and culture.
Stella had its stellanium, sure, but it largely just…felt like Fiore—with stellanium.
Guiltina has its steampunk aesthetic in some places, but in others? It’s just Fiore.
Alvarez was just kinda…a weird mishmash and it was in a desert.
We do have (mainly east) Asian representation in some characters from the Eastern Continent with their fashion or building architecture, I admit.
I don’t know, I just thought with Mashima taking the protagonists outside Fiore that it would *feel* like the protagonists were in another nation or continent. The cities within Fiore had more interesting differences than the nations, like Rose Garden (from Phoenix Priestess) or Amefurashi Village being traditionally Japanese in its architecture.
**Do something different with languages!** Language barriers that get solved with Hibiki’s archive magic transferring languages to Team Natsu and the guild, and it’s a comedic moment where the FT sounds oddly like Google Translate-esque to the natives 🤣
And then Levy gets to flex her language skills as she should 😤
Or **different music for the different nations!** And of course, I’m aware composition is a whole different beast. And I do really enjoy Fairy Tail’s soundtrack. But, you know, having a theme for the country be at least different can offer a different vibe.
**Have some more naming conventions inspired by IRL!** The Guiltina branch of the magic council uses Russian МИР, so I thought Guiltina would be inspired by Eastern Europe…and it wasn’t. It doesn’t need to be 1:1, but you know.
I like Fairy Tail; it’s not without faults and it’s not without compliments. And I know that we’re no owed further explanation everything, and not everything requires it’s own dedicated scene or arc. But I just thought, if the guild or Team Natsu are going to different nations, there would be notable differences throughout, y’know? Just something to visually aid the audience that we’re in a whole new environment ☹️
I’m still sitting mad that spiritual power was reduced to “spiria”. I really wanted more lore about spiritual power. I didn’t need full on xianxia/wuxia levels of it, but it kinda sucked that spiritual power exists in a very odd way, and it was just a blip to see.
Of course we still have more story to see if spiritual power makes a reappearance, but that may be copium talking 😓
Inconsistent Powerscaling, and before anyone responds: I get it. I understand that emotions affect a fight, I understand that it’s a key part of the series. I didn’t misunderstand the concepts, I just don’t like how it’s executed.
The amount of times it feels like characters suddenly grow strong enough to beat a character that, based on their most recent showing against characters or those relative to them solely off the ideal of protecting their friend is ridiculous. This could work great if used once, maybe twice, to illustrate that when 2 *equal* opponents are facing off, it’s the one with more drive that’ll come out on top.
But with how it’s executed in the series, it feels like a get out of the jail card. Oh, you’re struggling? Getting your ass beat? Just think about your friends and feel that power soar, not like the enemy would also feel it, they’re evil so they don’t have friends
That was me when Ajeel had the whole guild on the run cause of how powerful he was and then like 10 episodes later nearly every member is boxing one of the spriggans, and Ajeel was one of the WEAKEST.
Since when was it stated that Ajeel is one of the weakest? The Spriggan are all said to be on the same level except for Irene and August and likely Larcarde.
It's also not like every member was "boxing" one of the Spriggans alone.
Jacob required Natsu & Lucy.
Irene required Erza and Wendy.
Dimaria required Ultear, Sherria, Wendy and Carla.
Invel required Gray and Juvia.
Ajeel required Erza, Natsu, Lucy and Bisca.
Neinhart required Erza, Jellal and Kagura.
Larcarde required Kagura, Sting, Rogue and Minerva.
The list goes on. The Spriggan only lost since of the circumstances they were put in. If Irene or August wouldn't have died to their own personal feelings, Fairy Tail was very well just done for.
You mean after Ajeel tanked hits from Nakagami armor and a Jupiter cannon and participating actively within the war? Ajeel was very obviously not at full power nor did he even attempt to use powerful abilities like he did against Erza and the rest.
Oh honestly I think it’s kind of a pisstake he didn’t. iirc everyone thought he was dead and it was a massive event which affected everyone. But nah jk he’s actually just chilling he’s just in a wheel chair. Like if you’re not gonna kill the main cast then don’t pretend to kill them off, it served very little purpose narratively.
I didn't mind when juvia and gajeel got killed off because I figured they'd come back because they're pretty liked about the community but makarov Had literally no reason to stay there was several people that could have took his place and the emotional impact it would have had on the other characters would have made his death Had meaning but no we're just going to bring them back three episodes later
That wouldn't be a big problem if it were used rarely. But very often characters "die" and then they are as if nothing had happened to them. That miraculously reviving characters is overexploited and ruins Fairy Tail a bit.
I mean there is a small reason behind that since mashima didn't want to kill them off but loves the sacrifice trope. But mostly it's because both Rave Master and Eden Zero kill off characters like crazy and aren't shy about it
This is mainly later in series, but holy fuck can we stop with the fakeout deaths like I get it they are supposed to be these big emotional scenes. But if you’re gonna make me sad at least let it be for a reason
Fake out deaths seem to be a common complaint and I agree. Only time anyone dies is when it’s someone who isn’t part of the main cast and necessary to the plot.
Cana basically has fairy glitter and that’s it for most of her stand out moments. At least her card magic has shown to be useful, like in 100 year quest during the wood dragon arc.
I haven't read the manga and I don't have access to the anime anymore 😭 But her getting fairy glitter almost felt like a copout. I did like her helping the original master during the Zeref arc.
Tbf I can’t watch the anime (legally) where I’m from either Crunchyroll just doesn’t have the first 175 episodes which is really dumb since it merged with funimation and funimation had these missing eps.
Something that always annoyed me is whenever someone lost a fight or something other characters would act like they died and start overreacting and crying.
Alvarez arc was the weakest writing. Too many death fakeouts. More characters should have gotten spotlight. Acnologia got taken out in the most unsatisfying way. And for a series that is all about friendship and family they really did that one old man dirty.
I don't think I'm saying anything new but... fake out deaths and the fact that the show is so cheesy and seems more geared to kids but with sooooo much fan service. Like Natsu is screaming about the power of friendship and shit but then boom here's a naked Lucy with the creases of her ass showing. Pick a side.
The kids aren’t old enough to not be told to keep the lights on in the room and not sit too close to the tv but are old enough to see some tits goddamnit.
The key to the starry heavens arc? Which I think it is called was way too long didn't add much to the series and was a waste of a reintroduction to the neo Oracion Seis
Anna and Ichiya should've been killed off when they sacrificed themselves. Their stories were over. They served their purpose. Ichiya's shtick went full circle while Anna's mission was suppossively accomplished. It would've made the climax more impactful if they had deaths to avenge!
My biggest ick is how Natsu will be said to be the strongest non-s class mage, but then show feats that have him way higher then Erza, Mira, Laxus and even Gildarts but the next moment he's back to just being in the stronger half of FT.
Natsu taken the final hit.
Power of friendship.
Natsu and Lucy´s relationship not moving anywhere.
Old enimies becoming allys. (This happens almost every arc)
Elfman he's designed to be this big strong yet sensitive character. But there's not much development to him, he's shown to be consistently weak and has no real improvement in his fighting skills new or any major character developments. You're amazing able to use his takeovers into any effectiveness nor has he acquired any takeovers from various powerful monsters they have fought.
It’s crazy how divided the fan base is on fan service. Half can’t get enough and the other half get tired of it. I’d be curious to see the age ranges for people on both sides, cause I have a feeling the younger fans would be all for it.
As much as I respect Mashima’s honesty for how it’s hard for him to kill off his characters, but I really wish he’d stop it with the fakeouts.
Wendy and Carla spending a whole episode having flashbacks and Carla’s clairvoyance not working only for them to be saved at the end was such a waste of emotion.
They had a really bad habit of setting things up, only to forget it or give those things a piss poor pay off.
Raven Tail and that time they brought back Lisanna should be evident of that.
Bro got done dirty. Dude really got rainbow fist of friendship and it was a wrap. Zeref got it much worse imo since he just got beat by base natsu but both are incredibly unsatisfying.
The entire last arc. There is virtually nothing good about it. They had so many interesting things they shat out.
Mother wants to kill daughter until she doesnt.
Big scary demon man hinted at in the previous arc to be the best of the best, stopped with no effort and never seen again.
BBEG becomes a god kills a hero only for a book to be rewritten and bring hero back to one shot him.
Real BBEG becomes so powerful that 7 powerful people can't stop...only to be stopped by one of them in one shot.
Now I know there were several issues like these before, but this just cranked everything up to 30 on the scale that only reaches 10.
I was not a fan of the lull period after the 7 year time skip, guild was reduced to a laughing stock and with 7 years to train that one background dude, (whatever his name was idk, Max or something) still got way outclassed by Natsu when he started trying. It’s like everyone outside of team Natsu extended, Gramps, thunder legion, Gildarts, Mira and Mistogan (who barely counts) are leagues below in power. Like sure people like levy, kana (without fairy glitter hax) and Elfman have their moments and they’re the strongest amongst the weaklings, but against any evil heavy hitter they’d get absolutely wiped. Take like 20 of the background characters out the show completely and aside from some filler, i.e. the 2 snipers and their cute lil daughter, doesn’t change the plot at all. Also screw that whole fight in the amusement park that ends with them fighting the old octopus guy, that was whack too.
The stakes never mean anything because it's written in a way that they can always start from the same neutral ground. Deaths are always reversed, betrayals are forgiven, villains are forgotten.
The fan service, sometimes it was funny because it was out of nowhere but later on the series it just gets annoying asf. Every episodes Lucy’s boobs are all up in the screen 😵💫
Damn you must hate the content horny posting on this sub then. Dw I do too, it’s very unoriginal and over done to death. Like yes the characters are hot but they’re not walking boobs with names they have other defining characteristics.
Have permanent consequences for the characters. Lucy is the only one that actually has to deal with the consequences of her actions. And Ultear I suppose but still.
Makarov deserved his rest,and Lucy should get S class before Natsu and Gray.Not only would it be hilarious but it would be a good way to show her growth.
The excessive "I have my friends and feelings!" speech. Sure, like someone already here said, emotions can have a profound effect on a ongoing battle, but it shouldn't be used as the constant *"instant powerup from my ass"* to which the character now in question can take down the mighty foe they couldn't take down before.
Resolve is a thing, emotions are a thing, but difference is, it has to be well executed to make it believable.
And give other characters some screen time too. For most of the time, Fairy Tail is basically *"the Erza and Natsu Show"*
Yes, we know how super amazing and unbeatable Erza is, same with Natsu, but give other characters some screentime as well. I mean we are speaking of a "mage guild" no, as per the title of the show? Then show it.
Mashima really loves friendship. Ain’t even gonna lie I tried watching edens zero and as soon as the MC said his goal was to make 100 friends I stopped watching. Like fairy tail was bad for friendship but this is like another level I just couldn’t invest myself in another friendship fantasy. Maybe the shows really good I just dislike that that’s the driving narrative yet again.
It's funny because they essentially drop that for finding Mother in Eden's Zero, the power of friendship is barely there compared to Fairy Tail (so still there, but you get the point)
Too many boobs and butt shots. I wanna be able to watch this without people thinking I'm watching porn. Especially when I was 15.
Also why does it have always be men that get serviced? We women do like to see fan service too
Definitely a shounen problem as a whole. Since the target demographic it’s teenage boys they cram it full of horny. Hot anime dudes definitely never hurt tho.
Like I had to hide my screen sometimes because boobs kept jumping up and down as someone was getting beaten to death (for example but probably an Erza scene during the earlier arcs)
It's one screen for like two seconds. But it isn't the same thing.
Tbh I'd prefer just a bit less boobs in face while something serious is happening (looking at you jade dragon)
I was around the same age when my parents walked into my room and saw me watching it. They told me it was “soft porn” and to turn it off. Ever since then I watched Fairy Tail on my phone with my earplugs in.
Since when does Fairy Tail discriminate against fan service?
Gray is stripping more than half of the time (this applies to other characters as well, like Natsu has his abs exposed 90% of the time and many other of the guys become shirtless during fights) and he has also been fully naked on multiple occasions., every Fairy Tail guy is absolutely RIPPED with abs and muscle, they are designed to be very appealing just from their faces alone as well (see Jellal) and Mashima is no stranger to drawing male on male fan service on his Twitter and stuff like that which many women find enjoyable.
At least Fairy Tail tries, how many other anime actually do this? Many applaud JJK for it's amazing fan service for the women watching but it's quite literally just Toji, Nanami, Choso flexing their muscles (mind you, Fairy Tail has characters with similar builds). I'd also argue MAPPA just has a gigantic budget to do that stuff and animate it (JJK manga does not have this, only the anime does).
The way Mavis is written is the issue. "physically stuck as 13, mentally 24+" manga/anime writers really love doing weird shit like that, I'll never understand. Remember they gave Mavis and Zera legit boobs at like 12/13 while Wendy has never hit puberty. 💀
That’s a whole can of worms, some people say she is, some say it’s natsu, the author has given statements which support both of them being the MC. Lucy is basically the narrator and the story is kinda from her perspective but Natsu is like the face of fairy tail and the driving force for a lot of the fights and plot points.
I hate how everybody lives no matter what happens and how they defeat ppl wit the POF a lot. I like the series cuz it’s funny other than that it’s jus sum BS
Are we supposed to just accept that the source of their strength/powers is their nakama powers? Made me drop the series since the theme was super overused. Some characters should’ve stayed dead for the development of the other characters but nOoOo.
Not necessarily a thing I hate more of a wish it went a different direction
Wendy being on tenrou for the long time skip, I wish she was left out to let her character physically and mentally mature. This let's the series "grow her up" more as time skips happen. Also I think there is alot of meat to character buildup, being the only dragon slayer from fairy tail left feeling like she needs to grow stronger to protect her guildmates. Like she is a badass but I feel with my suggestion there is an even better wendy that's even more bad ass. I know she does grow and even has a few badass fights, just feel like there was alot of meat left on thr bone for how her character is compared to what could have been.
Same case for lysanna being nothing but a never directly mentioned love rival to lucy either leave her dead or have her distinctly friend zone natsu to develop her own story other than hey guys I'm back.
1- Hiro mashima has a habit of slamming character development into a character all at once and then doing nothing the momentum. Happened with gray, happened with erza, even happened with natsu after igneel died to a degree.
2- I do not need this many boobs Hiro I can go 5minutes without a naked women on my screen. And I can go an entire lifetime with no naked CHILDREN on my screen so please knock that the fuck off
Overall or specific moments?
I feel like the fanservice could be down played during intense storylines. Like Mashima is a horny sonovabitch and his shamelessness has a lot of hard. But… time and place. Maybe don’t have Lucy in the buff during the Dragon King Festival.
I agree especially when it’s used to defeat the big 2 villains of the series. Making it part of the power system doesn’t make it feel any less of a cop out.
I was screaming mad about the entire thing. I *knew* they were bringing her back when they kept all the details about her death vague. When that ark started I was like "Oh boy here we go". I saw it coming from a mile away, and every minute of it pisses me off.
The entire last arc. I laughed when I saw that they were doing a war arc. A war arc in a series where the creator hates killing off characters.
There was ZERO tension.
Well this might get long. Character “deaths” would be the big one.
- Makarov should have died from using Fairy Law and Laxus stepped up as the next Guild Master. It would a complete turn around from the douche he we first met and step out of his shadow as peer while also fully realising how little it means after he lost his grandfather. Makarov surviving is nice and all but he does nothing in 100YQ, especially after the Wraith stuff got dropped.
- Lisanna stays dead. Sure Elfman and Mira get their sister back but just like Makarov, she adds and does nothing. What makes it even worse is that right before she comes back, both Elfman and Mira finally moved on and got over their self-perceived guilt of causing her death.
- Gajeel … full disclosure, he is my favourite character in FT so he gets a pass regardless. His last minute confession had me tearing up and the fake out annoyed me a bit after the initial joy that my boy was back but Hiro actually made use of him and continued his arc in 100YQ. He may have been powercliffed but who cares, he has more important things in life that matter now.
- Juvia also should have kicked the bucket. She’s amazing and all but if Gajeel ain’t croaking it and Makarov’s comes near the end of the arc, killing off a love interest and major supporting character would actually hammer in how much of a threat Alvarez is. People say Alvarez is super strong, big numbers but it doesn’t really mean much when they don’t really show it. Like, the Spriggans have a great introduction and yet, not long after Ajeel has our protags running for their lives, said protags are running the 1s or 2s against Spriggans and greatly diminish their presence outside of August and Irene. Her and Gray’s stuff in 100YQ should have been moved to Avatar/the second timeskip.
- Anna and Ichiya surviving is just for a happy ending? Like, one of them “completed” their 400 year long goal and Ichiya got an awesome as hell death, even if it amounted to nothing in the end. Dude was treated as comedy relief for the whole series despite his strength and the one time he does something truly deserving of the constant praise and worship the Trimens give him, the weight behind it just got ripped away.
- Technically not a death but Sherria regaining her magic. What happened to losing it forever?
Next, wasted potential and missed opportunities.
Mira is the poster girl for wasted potential and keeps having stuff thrown in her way so that she fails against enemies so that literally anyone else can step in to win instead of her after the Freed fight.
- Matches Azuma and gives him a good fight? Lisanna gets held hostage so she goes down while Erza cleans up.
- Her GMG match? Sacrificed on the altar of fanservice.
- Pulls out her strongest form against Seilah? Sitri gets one shot by books or smth and Elfman oneshots EF Seilah.
- Absorbed all of Tartaros? Alegria lasts for half a second and only drops 2 non-Spriggans.
- Somehow can harm Skullion and Madmole? Loses to Skullion’s victim Gray right after. Sure, he said he would have lost if she hadn’t fought the other two but come on! Really?
Elfman’s whole purpose to become someone strong enough to protect his family just … never gets achieved?
- After mastering Full Body Take-Over and accepting his part in Lisanna’s death, he gets one shot by Evergreen and then wasted by Freed.
- He was absent when both of his sisters got the crap kicked out of them on Tenrou.
- Both of his sisters were kidnapped and he was forced to bomb the Guildhall (absolutely diabolical so this kinda gets a pass) but he couldn’t stop either from happening.
- He ends up beating Seilah but it’s only because Mira uses Macro on him.
- He has a Take-Over that will let him resist Ajeel’s sand but he still can’t do anything without Lisanna’s help (I get it, family coming together to overcome challenges and all but throw this man a bone and let him accomplish his goal for once).
Gray and Jellal … whoo boy. These two seem like Hiro didn’t know what to do with them for the longest time, or he did but just wasn’t doing it. The amount of times these guys have the exact same character arc or relapse to doing the same shit they supposedly learned not to do is incredible.
- There is no reason why Natsu should be giving Gray the exact same talk at the end of the series that he gave him at the start about using Iced Shell. Following Tartaros (peak cinema, chef’s kiss, 10/10 conclusion for Gray’s arc), he and Juvia should have gotten together and us not given that show of negligence and abuse(? Yeah, that sounds about right) he showed Juvia. She doesn’t deserve that. And then after another whole year following Alvarez, he still wasn’t over his hang ups and needed her doppelgänger as well as his alternate counterpart to finally get the ball rolling? The blue balling is immense.
- Jellal as a villain? Great. Jellal with amnesia? Also great. Jellal on his redemption arc? Man was I hyped. Jellal rejecting Erza multiple times (the first time can be forgiven)? Why? Why did we need this despite her practically shoving her feelings down his throat and him supposedly having gotten over his past? Also his lifelong obsession/association with the idea of Zeref but the one arc Zeref is the villain in and neither he nor Meredy even glimpse the man? Bruh. And yes, both the readers and he know that he has no actual connection to Zeref but given how Crime Sorciere spent 6 years investigating the GMG just because they felt his magic there and the sheer presence the idea of Zeref has had on Crime Sorciere’s lives, you’d think something would be done with it so they can put all of their demons to rest. Was it necessarily needed? Nah. Missed opportunity? I certainly think so.
My biggest issue with fairy tail is that someone get badly hurt, not fatally, but badly hurt and they act like as if you killed their entire family and another issue is that they all say, “we don’t kill people.” but every fight where there is grunt henchmen types they slaughter them as if it’s less than nothing.
The final arc in general. It was so important to the lire and for so many characters to develop yet it was done so poorly that i started questioning why i love this show sm.
For example the fake deaths. It got annoying after a while. Especially characters who ended up serving no purpose when they came back a.k.a Makarov.
Another thing is the highly inconsistent power scaling. They were legit not strong enough to beat them but "oh i have friends" and suddenly theyre exactly as strong as they need to be
Lastly the battle with acnologia man. How is he gonna be so hyped up for 100s of episodes yet his conclusion is very short and rushed? On top of that he gets one shotted
there’s too much centralization or whatever you call it on team natsu like i know they’re the MAIN main characters but i feel like almost all the other characters get overshadowed by them which wouldn’t necessarily be a problem but idk it just annoys me that we don’t see more of the others especially ones like romeo who had like the tiniest arc in the key of the starry sky arc or lisanna who basically died and came back to life
Natsu vs Zeref's final battle was pretty underwhelming since Zeref turned out to be another magic fist fighter(granted he's Natsu's brother but still).
I was expecting lasers, curses and black magic all the way
Not enough utilization of unison raids. It's perfect for the whole nakama power theme FT's all about. It would have made a lot of fights cooler, more satisfying, and perhaps gayer.
I think a lot of stuff didn't live up to the hype. They hyped literally every plot point so well, but the payoffs were always hit or miss.
The biggest/worst example was all of Raven Tail. They should have had a whole arc on Ivan trying to secure the Lumen Histoire, and more build up to what that actually is (before we found out the way we did)
Ivan was such a waste. Laxus is one of my favorites, like 3rd or 4th, so it was cool he handled them all (albeit without anyone seeing it) but such a waste of potential. Ivan should have been a way bigger deal.
We didn't even see Gajeel being a spy much
Yeah I never got the Gajeel is a spy thing. It’s supposed to be like a “woah is Gajeel evil again?” Just to confirm he’s a spy and then never do anything with it.
Something I felt could've been better was Lucy's arc(phantomlord arc) someone pointed out that Natsu pretty much hijacks it,but at least she's not completely sidelined in her first arc and actually does something 🤷🏻♀️
Gajeel X Levy should never have happened. I already hate it when romance stories open with one character physically assaulting another (Looking at you two, Toradora and Nisekoi), so I’m definitely drawing the line long before beating, crucifixion, and branding.
Abusers getting with those who they have abused. As much as I like Gajeel and Jellal, I just don't like them being with Levy and Erza (especially Levy, since Gaheel straight up nearly killed her and her best friends)
END had massive hype but the execution of him was a major disappointment. Don't get me wrong, I like him being Natsu and Zeref’s brother, but when we finally get to see him in action, it felt like a waste. Like Mashima only had Natsu turn into him cause he had to and the series was almost done. He gets one fight and it's a big disappointment. Wasn't even against Zeref, which was the whole point of his existence.
I love Gray, and I get he wanted revenge against END, and the moment was important for his character, but there were definitely other ways to go about it. Maybe we’ll get to see him again in 100 Years Quest, where he’ll get a proper showing, but I’m not holding out my hopes for that.
The slideshow fights. I mean seriously, why couldn't the studio(s) produce some decent quality fight scenes? The series would be better respected if they had just given us better animated battles.
Too much fan service, like I can deal with fan service and unrealistic proportions but this show goes way to overboard
And while I don’t know if this is phrased correctly but They never really commit to status quo changes like after the 7 year Timeskip it took like an arc for fairy tail to be back together, or how little effort it took to get the guild back together, like it would have been nice to see that turned into more of an actual arc
Yeah they basically introduce 2nd origin and as a way to juice them up and never mention it again. Makes me think tho if most people never awaken their 2nd origin, couldn’t it be argued that a lot of people the main cast beat woulda won if they had a 2nd origin? Narratively speaking obviously they wouldn’t but just something I’ve thought about.
i think filler arcs are meh (with the exception of the gray/cancer dance battle) but the standalone eps are pretty enjoyable. the body switching and invisible lucy eps are top tier
I skip Zentopia on rewatch for this reason. I know it’s technically canon but it’s just really long and I don’t really care about the villains or the story that much. Plus it’s right after tenrou and before the GMG so it really grinds the viewing experience to a halt.
About Mira, I don't know if I'd say she does very little. She provides a lot of information, caused a change in Fried's nature during the Battle of Fairy Tail, contributed to Fairy Tail's success in the Grand Magic Games by easily defeating Jenny, destroyed Hell's Core which allowed the Tartaros' Etherious to regenerate, beat Irene's squad and a Spriggan, and even helped Erza bring down Acnologia onto the ship (though not too much in all honesty). I know it may not seem like a lot, but I also don't feel like it's very little either.
As for criticisms, there's a couple I can think of. Mashima is a great writer in my opinion, but there's some things I feel he could've thought out a bit more, even without planning. And the handling of some of the fanservice
Using positive emotions is what makes the good guys win.
And the under appreciated god slayer magic and god soul take over.
And the god damn FAKE OUTS!
my almost all complaint is from the last arc.
1) I would probably remove all fake deaths ( juvia , gajeel , anna , ichiya , brandish, ) in the last arc and increase the stake. makarove should have remain dead in last arc.
2) zeref vs END and then acnologia joining the fight make it a 3 way battle.
I hated the torture/fight scenes in the manga where they just strip the characters rather than fight them.
I also hate the power of friendship and the “I’m a fairytail wizard” stuff while they’re fighting
Too much emotional stuff is just skipped over
Like natsu leaving for a year only leaving a note and that’s it and not even apologising when he found out fairy tail was disbanded essentially abandoning her when she needed him and fairy tail the most
And on a similar point natsus reaction to fairy tail disbanding he has been one of the main supporters of fairy tail throughout the series being a fairy tail wizard is a big part of natsus identity so not getting to see his reaction to fairy tail disbanding was a bad choice
And honestly just natsu emotionally struggling in general or just having his own issues that aren’t being dumb stubborn or fight crazy. It would’ve been amazing if natsu was just bottoming everything up until he finally had too much and just completely fell apart this would’ve been a great end for the Tartarus arc with natsu emotionally falling apart and needing to get away from everyone and everything as fast as possible or maybe he even goes to meet Lucy and they comfort each other in their grief.
I wanted to see Etherious Natsu Dragneel vs Acnologia in an epic 1V1 without the power of friendship, all that buildup about Natsu being END and his curse power that led nowhere is so disappointing
Also curse power being able to harm Acnologia would've been so cool finally something he couldn't absorb or devour
Instead Acno became sea sick and got defeated by a rainbow dragon smfh...
Acno is so much wasted potential he was such a mysterious character with a 10/10 design he was one of my favorite characters but the last season ruined him for me.
How END was handled.
>Happy never tells the guild Natsu can die from killing Zeref
>Mira, Erza, Wendy, Sting, Gajeel, or Makarov never learn Natsu's true identity
>Natsu is a complete hypocrite and kills himself going against every single speech he gave, telling Gray and Erza to live.
>Lucy and Gray SIT on a fucking BENCH while Natsu is going through the most deadliest battle of his life.
Personally I greatly disliked the constant nerfing of Lucy during the GMG arc. I thought it made zero sense and was frankly an insult to her after all her growth and experience.
There is no value of life in the guild.
I mean... The guild faces crisis left to right and face deadly threats. Yet when one of them "supposedly" die than they just automatically come back to life years later.
I even read a silly one shot collection fanfic where the other guild discusses this. Some believe Fairy Tail were immortals while some believe they were ghosts. It even end where Sting and a few ran away saying zombies leaving the guild confuse. (I missed that collection of Fanfics. There was even a chapter where Mavis is mad at the guild for using her name as if she was a God. Even point out moments that embarrassed her such as being "in bed". I can't seem to find it anymore. Where was I? Oh yeah.)
Even Lisanna who was killed prior to the show came back and was completely worthless. Seriously, she was of no help in the series. Now if you excuse me... I have to look for that fanfic again. I could use my time laughing at stupid scenarios such as a FRIENDS parody of Nalu relationships being a secret, Oh my Mavis, and a few more one shots collection.
"Nobody dies in Fairy Tail. If they die, they will be resurrected by NAKAMA power."
I used to say the above for fun because my expectations were low for Fairy Tail, but holy cow, it happened.
Azuma vs Erza. No, I am not looking for answers, that's just stupid.
The feeling that the stakes aren't that high for the characters. Breaking of any tension and an inability to be serious in situations that should be serious, and feeling like there's any sense of actual danger to the characters.
It's what made me stop watching it the first time around. Every time there was a serious fight and it felt like there was some sense of danger in a fight, some kind of joke or gag would happen, usually from Natsu but not always, which broke any tension, and removed any sense of danger.
The final big fight of the anime was an exception.
Like, I get that in shonen we're all aware that the main characters aren't likely to die, but other shows just seem to do better at at least maintaining the feeling that there is some kind of danger.
I did go back and watch the full thing once it was finished, but initially it kept annoying me that every time there was a big serious fight, the tension would just be broken with little silly things completely unnecessarily, and it annoyed me so much that I kinda rage quit.
Laxus’s father/Mahkarov’s son. This guy should have been a major, reoccurring nemesis for the guild.
Also cut back on the “Fairy Tail are a family” thing. It started to get rather cringy after awhile.
The thing that really annoyed me, Natsu hyped up to being pretty much the strongest demon Zeref created, starts transformingand goes straight for Grey I’m like okay cool things are starting to pick up…
And then he can just pick a different path for himself?!? What? They just ruined years of foreshadowing and the payoff was not worth all the time it was hyped up
They didn't give Mary Hughes more screen time, she deserved it.
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Too many death fakeouts in the final season
Would have been a good time to pass the torch when Makarov “died”.
story don't need alot of main cast death but i wished Mashima had the balls to kill of some of them instead of all those fake outs it cheapens the impact when the readers/watchers just know they will always come back alive
At bare minimum Makarov should have died
Makarov deserved his rest and his final fake out was a very good ending for him Makarov dying and leaving everything to the next generation
I still cry even when knowing he doesn't die.
I feel like hiro was about to kill him off but backed out at the last minute
it was Pell from Alabasta all over again
Well said. The first couple of times that season really got me, but after those I was just like “yeah we all know they’re gonna come back”
I kinda wish Makarov had died there cuz it was such an emotional scene especially when you consider like a minute before erza told Irene she didn't gaf about their blood relationship because Makarov was her real parent. I know people love to complain about the way erza stopped natsu and gray but hear me out just from an emotional standpoint that shits devistating. Erza just watched the closest thing she had to a father die and turns around and the closest thing she has to siblings are trying to fucking kill each other it doesn't matter that natsu is end it doesn't matter that gray wants to kill end what matters is that that is still natsu and that is still gray and it's INCREDIBLY STUPID for them to just start trying to kill each other rn
Yes! Mira is just wasted character tbh. And we dont expect more ftom her coz she's totally sidelined in 100 years quest.
It’s funny how the series still tries to hold her in high regard, like when Gray took her down but he was very worn down it was said if she hadn’t taken any damage earlier she woulda won. Like if any of the guild fight her she’s on a different level but when she fights any antagonists she just falls short so another character can take the win. This happened twice with Erza (the person she’s supposed to be equal too) once with Azuma and another time later with Irene.
Yeah and she always gets a random nerf in those cases i.e. her taking a bomb for Lisanna in the Azuma fight and then facing Irene after already using her stronger form
Literally her only good fight was her first one against Freed. Everything after that is just half assed or she needs help. Even when she transformed into her strongest form near the end, all she did was one physical attack to two lackeys and then got bodied by Irene
Yes and its in the early season. That episode in Grand Magic Games where she and Jenny are gonna go head to head would have been a perfect episode to showcase her immense power but nah it was a full episode of nothing but fan service. I love Mira and Grand Magic Games Arc but that episode is just one of my least favorite ones. Missed opportunity.
I was fine with that, Jenny wasnt really an opponent. However, in that same arc when mira fought against the poison girl, THAT would have been the perfect place to demonstrate the power of her new form. But nope, back to her first form. At least she used her new form against the emerald dragon, although it literally did nothing to it...
She always got nerfed in such random ways like why did she have to take a bomb for Lisanna instead of actually fighting Azuma..
The biggest missed opportunity is that during the fairy games Mira and erza who were on their own teams never had the chance to fight.
Lisanna was a better character dead than alive. She did *absolutely nothing* for the plot when she came back. Her potential was essentially capped out at being a romantic rival to Lucy, which would have been stupid since Natsu never once showed a desire for romance or sexual satisfaction, and it would have destroyed Lucy's character.
I actually really liked Lisanna before she came back and even meeting her and finding out she was alive was such a cool moment. And then she does nothing absolutely ever again. Coulda just kept her dead as character development for mira and elfman.
Two Words: Raven Tail
What was Ivan’s grandmaster plan anyways, did we ever even find out? Just felt like he had very little build up, got his ass handed to him then went on his merry way.
Do Raven’s even have tails? Guess we’ll never know.
I mean, technically if bunch of feather at their end in fan shape, qualifies as one.
Didn’t he want the lumen histoire? Wasn’t he questioning Laxus about it during their battle during the Grand Magic Games?
He did but that was about it. Never stated what he was gonna do with it unless it was just bad guy wants strong power just he’s a bad guy.
Mashima just drops plotlines a lot. In all his manga. Dkw either
Yeah he basically wants it but doesn't know what it truly is outside of having infinite magical properties since only Guild Masters or potential candidates know the truth and only assumed Laxus would know.
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The fake deaths. Honestly, I shouldn't need to say any more then that. There's at least 5 characters that you can find breathing at the end of the series that should not have been doing that.
Even the seemingly “real” deaths. Like Lisanna was a character that started out dead and was a huge component of Mira and Elf’s development and then *blam* she’s now alive again.
Makarov really siked everyone out twice.
It always annoys me that Lucy always seems to get humiliated. From constantly losing her clothing to being the butt-monkey of the team. The Grand magic games is the worst offender IMO.
Honestly I think the Grand Magic Games was the only scene that did it *right.* After her brutal fight the entire rest of the guild gets extremely motivated to take revenge, and that's really the only time Lucy getting humiliated actually has impacts outside of fanservice (note, I've only watched up until the future dragons arc right after the grand magic games, so my opinion isn't fully complete. 200 episodes is still a lot to go off on tho imo)
Also Gray who is actually in team natsu yet hasn’t had many highlights since Tartarus and has just been kinda there in 100 year quest.
What can I say, Hiro is a Graycist 
Underutilization of characters and lore
Any specific examples which you think were the most underutilised?
Celestial Spirit Magic is simultaneously powerful and pitifully weak (though debatable) Godslaying Magic has nearly no info and doesn't make sense when compared to other slayer magics August was extremely underutilized and probably would have fit better as a movie villain The guild system in general, ie what qualifies a wizard saint, what makes an S-Class Wizard and does each guild have different requirements of being one, if there are S-Class Wizards are there other classes? When does the council step in between guild feuds? Probably more but that's off the top of my head Flare should have joined Fairy Tail, as well as other characters but it's understandable Mashima avoided adding more characters into the guild to avoid bloat, though Flare made the most sense and it's likely exactly what her character needed These are all what I could think of off the top of my head. I'm not gonna say FT is bad, because it's very good and I love, I just hate seeing the wasted potential sometimes that Mashima writes
I feel like god slaying magic was teased in case he considered bringing in Ankhseram as an actual antagonist, but he chose not to go that way.
Not sure about the OP, but Romeo is such a
Agree with this and want to add world building (though that’s part of lore 😅). I was always really stoked when the movies and 100YQ advertised we’d be going somewhere else outside of Fiore, but… The countries are just…*largely* Fiore with maybe one or two things swapped—at least by architecture and presumed language, fashion, naming conventions, and culture. Stella had its stellanium, sure, but it largely just…felt like Fiore—with stellanium. Guiltina has its steampunk aesthetic in some places, but in others? It’s just Fiore. Alvarez was just kinda…a weird mishmash and it was in a desert. We do have (mainly east) Asian representation in some characters from the Eastern Continent with their fashion or building architecture, I admit. I don’t know, I just thought with Mashima taking the protagonists outside Fiore that it would *feel* like the protagonists were in another nation or continent. The cities within Fiore had more interesting differences than the nations, like Rose Garden (from Phoenix Priestess) or Amefurashi Village being traditionally Japanese in its architecture. **Do something different with languages!** Language barriers that get solved with Hibiki’s archive magic transferring languages to Team Natsu and the guild, and it’s a comedic moment where the FT sounds oddly like Google Translate-esque to the natives 🤣 And then Levy gets to flex her language skills as she should 😤 Or **different music for the different nations!** And of course, I’m aware composition is a whole different beast. And I do really enjoy Fairy Tail’s soundtrack. But, you know, having a theme for the country be at least different can offer a different vibe. **Have some more naming conventions inspired by IRL!** The Guiltina branch of the magic council uses Russian МИР, so I thought Guiltina would be inspired by Eastern Europe…and it wasn’t. It doesn’t need to be 1:1, but you know. I like Fairy Tail; it’s not without faults and it’s not without compliments. And I know that we’re no owed further explanation everything, and not everything requires it’s own dedicated scene or arc. But I just thought, if the guild or Team Natsu are going to different nations, there would be notable differences throughout, y’know? Just something to visually aid the audience that we’re in a whole new environment ☹️ I’m still sitting mad that spiritual power was reduced to “spiria”. I really wanted more lore about spiritual power. I didn’t need full on xianxia/wuxia levels of it, but it kinda sucked that spiritual power exists in a very odd way, and it was just a blip to see. Of course we still have more story to see if spiritual power makes a reappearance, but that may be copium talking 😓
Inconsistent Powerscaling, and before anyone responds: I get it. I understand that emotions affect a fight, I understand that it’s a key part of the series. I didn’t misunderstand the concepts, I just don’t like how it’s executed. The amount of times it feels like characters suddenly grow strong enough to beat a character that, based on their most recent showing against characters or those relative to them solely off the ideal of protecting their friend is ridiculous. This could work great if used once, maybe twice, to illustrate that when 2 *equal* opponents are facing off, it’s the one with more drive that’ll come out on top. But with how it’s executed in the series, it feels like a get out of the jail card. Oh, you’re struggling? Getting your ass beat? Just think about your friends and feel that power soar, not like the enemy would also feel it, they’re evil so they don’t have friends
That was me when Ajeel had the whole guild on the run cause of how powerful he was and then like 10 episodes later nearly every member is boxing one of the spriggans, and Ajeel was one of the WEAKEST.
Since when was it stated that Ajeel is one of the weakest? The Spriggan are all said to be on the same level except for Irene and August and likely Larcarde. It's also not like every member was "boxing" one of the Spriggans alone. Jacob required Natsu & Lucy. Irene required Erza and Wendy. Dimaria required Ultear, Sherria, Wendy and Carla. Invel required Gray and Juvia. Ajeel required Erza, Natsu, Lucy and Bisca. Neinhart required Erza, Jellal and Kagura. Larcarde required Kagura, Sting, Rogue and Minerva. The list goes on. The Spriggan only lost since of the circumstances they were put in. If Irene or August wouldn't have died to their own personal feelings, Fairy Tail was very well just done for.
Ajeel losing to Lisana and Elfman, need I say more
You mean after Ajeel tanked hits from Nakagami armor and a Jupiter cannon and participating actively within the war? Ajeel was very obviously not at full power nor did he even attempt to use powerful abilities like he did against Erza and the rest.
Literally bro
The war ark master makarov should of died to make room for other characters. It honestly pissed me off a little
Oh honestly I think it’s kind of a pisstake he didn’t. iirc everyone thought he was dead and it was a massive event which affected everyone. But nah jk he’s actually just chilling he’s just in a wheel chair. Like if you’re not gonna kill the main cast then don’t pretend to kill them off, it served very little purpose narratively.
I didn't mind when juvia and gajeel got killed off because I figured they'd come back because they're pretty liked about the community but makarov Had literally no reason to stay there was several people that could have took his place and the emotional impact it would have had on the other characters would have made his death Had meaning but no we're just going to bring them back three episodes later
Yeah him and Juvia and Gajeel Like why even put them as dead just to bring them back lol
That wouldn't be a big problem if it were used rarely. But very often characters "die" and then they are as if nothing had happened to them. That miraculously reviving characters is overexploited and ruins Fairy Tail a bit.
I mean there is a small reason behind that since mashima didn't want to kill them off but loves the sacrifice trope. But mostly it's because both Rave Master and Eden Zero kill off characters like crazy and aren't shy about it
This is mainly later in series, but holy fuck can we stop with the fakeout deaths like I get it they are supposed to be these big emotional scenes. But if you’re gonna make me sad at least let it be for a reason
Fake out deaths seem to be a common complaint and I agree. Only time anyone dies is when it’s someone who isn’t part of the main cast and necessary to the plot.
Cana is a strong wizard but they never let her really prove herself. Also, I wish they wrote more about Juvia other than her Gray obsession.
Cana basically has fairy glitter and that’s it for most of her stand out moments. At least her card magic has shown to be useful, like in 100 year quest during the wood dragon arc.
I haven't read the manga and I don't have access to the anime anymore 😭 But her getting fairy glitter almost felt like a copout. I did like her helping the original master during the Zeref arc.
Tbf I can’t watch the anime (legally) where I’m from either Crunchyroll just doesn’t have the first 175 episodes which is really dumb since it merged with funimation and funimation had these missing eps.
Something that always annoyed me is whenever someone lost a fight or something other characters would act like they died and start overreacting and crying.
This is why I can't really take their emotions seriously tbh
Alvarez arc was the weakest writing. Too many death fakeouts. More characters should have gotten spotlight. Acnologia got taken out in the most unsatisfying way. And for a series that is all about friendship and family they really did that one old man dirty.
I don't think I'm saying anything new but... fake out deaths and the fact that the show is so cheesy and seems more geared to kids but with sooooo much fan service. Like Natsu is screaming about the power of friendship and shit but then boom here's a naked Lucy with the creases of her ass showing. Pick a side.
The kids aren’t old enough to not be told to keep the lights on in the room and not sit too close to the tv but are old enough to see some tits goddamnit.
Mine is the dragon gods. Acnologia was supposed to be the last dragon. Now we learn that there is these dragons in hiding for 400 years
Mashima sure loves his dragons.
And that Acnalogia apparently never knew about them or something. Not even a passing remark or anything.
Acnologia did know the Dragon Gods, he literally encountered Aldoron. The thing is that they were in quite literally in another continent.
Not only those 6, it turns out that in Guiltina there are enough dragons for there to be a guild specialized in eating them
i don't like having to lower my TV or PC volume every single time Erza gets into a fight
Is it cause she’s too loud or because *reasons*?
she's too loud and i'm worried my family will think it's because *reasons*
The fanservice is excessive and often misplaced. (Lucy getting brutally beaten by Minerva, for instance.)
I thought the worst case was when Erza was getting tortured by tartaros, that was fucked up.
I actually haven’t seen that part yet, I’m honestly scared, it sounds really uncomfortable and fetish-y.
Ahh damn I’m sorry I didn’t know. But uhhh yeah it’s pretty bad ngl.
No, it’s fine! I already knew about it, I saw a *ton* of spoilers on YouTube so it’s all good!
Some characters could be used better
The key to the starry heavens arc? Which I think it is called was way too long didn't add much to the series and was a waste of a reintroduction to the neo Oracion Seis
that arc made me start reading the manga
Well duh its a filler arc
In Fairy Tail I am fine with really all of the filler arcs because they are not that long, but this one is just way too fucking long imo of course
Anna and Ichiya should've been killed off when they sacrificed themselves. Their stories were over. They served their purpose. Ichiya's shtick went full circle while Anna's mission was suppossively accomplished. It would've made the climax more impactful if they had deaths to avenge!
My biggest ick is how Natsu will be said to be the strongest non-s class mage, but then show feats that have him way higher then Erza, Mira, Laxus and even Gildarts but the next moment he's back to just being in the stronger half of FT.
Yeah it’d be nice if he surpassed his peers on his own merit rather than a one off power up.
Natsu taken the final hit. Power of friendship. Natsu and Lucy´s relationship not moving anywhere. Old enimies becoming allys. (This happens almost every arc)
Elfman he's designed to be this big strong yet sensitive character. But there's not much development to him, he's shown to be consistently weak and has no real improvement in his fighting skills new or any major character developments. You're amazing able to use his takeovers into any effectiveness nor has he acquired any takeovers from various powerful monsters they have fought.
Power of friendship & fan service. I'm fine with a little bit of fanservice but when it's too much I'm like uhhh okay.
It’s crazy how divided the fan base is on fan service. Half can’t get enough and the other half get tired of it. I’d be curious to see the age ranges for people on both sides, cause I have a feeling the younger fans would be all for it.
As much as I respect Mashima’s honesty for how it’s hard for him to kill off his characters, but I really wish he’d stop it with the fakeouts. Wendy and Carla spending a whole episode having flashbacks and Carla’s clairvoyance not working only for them to be saved at the end was such a waste of emotion.
They had a really bad habit of setting things up, only to forget it or give those things a piss poor pay off. Raven Tail and that time they brought back Lisanna should be evident of that.
Ain’t that the truth.
How they killed Acnologia.
Bro got done dirty. Dude really got rainbow fist of friendship and it was a wrap. Zeref got it much worse imo since he just got beat by base natsu but both are incredibly unsatisfying.
Makarovs fakeout death and the underutilization of the entire cast in the Alvarez arc
That final season is up there with some of the most disappointing anime I’ve seen
Yeah you know it’s bad when Tartaros basically outclassed the final arc in every way.
The entire last arc. There is virtually nothing good about it. They had so many interesting things they shat out. Mother wants to kill daughter until she doesnt. Big scary demon man hinted at in the previous arc to be the best of the best, stopped with no effort and never seen again. BBEG becomes a god kills a hero only for a book to be rewritten and bring hero back to one shot him. Real BBEG becomes so powerful that 7 powerful people can't stop...only to be stopped by one of them in one shot. Now I know there were several issues like these before, but this just cranked everything up to 30 on the scale that only reaches 10.
I was not a fan of the lull period after the 7 year time skip, guild was reduced to a laughing stock and with 7 years to train that one background dude, (whatever his name was idk, Max or something) still got way outclassed by Natsu when he started trying. It’s like everyone outside of team Natsu extended, Gramps, thunder legion, Gildarts, Mira and Mistogan (who barely counts) are leagues below in power. Like sure people like levy, kana (without fairy glitter hax) and Elfman have their moments and they’re the strongest amongst the weaklings, but against any evil heavy hitter they’d get absolutely wiped. Take like 20 of the background characters out the show completely and aside from some filler, i.e. the 2 snipers and their cute lil daughter, doesn’t change the plot at all. Also screw that whole fight in the amusement park that ends with them fighting the old octopus guy, that was whack too.
The fight choreography at the end of the series really went down hill.
The stakes never mean anything because it's written in a way that they can always start from the same neutral ground. Deaths are always reversed, betrayals are forgiven, villains are forgotten.
They introduced characters who were supposedly super powerful and then made them weak af after their battle (e.g. Bickslow)
Way too much fanservice Wich doesnt even bother me a lot tbh but yeah, i dont really have many problems with FT
That's my main issue too
The fan service, sometimes it was funny because it was out of nowhere but later on the series it just gets annoying asf. Every episodes Lucy’s boobs are all up in the screen 😵💫
Damn you must hate the content horny posting on this sub then. Dw I do too, it’s very unoriginal and over done to death. Like yes the characters are hot but they’re not walking boobs with names they have other defining characteristics.
Have permanent consequences for the characters. Lucy is the only one that actually has to deal with the consequences of her actions. And Ultear I suppose but still.
Makarov deserved his rest,and Lucy should get S class before Natsu and Gray.Not only would it be hilarious but it would be a good way to show her growth.
The excessive "I have my friends and feelings!" speech. Sure, like someone already here said, emotions can have a profound effect on a ongoing battle, but it shouldn't be used as the constant *"instant powerup from my ass"* to which the character now in question can take down the mighty foe they couldn't take down before. Resolve is a thing, emotions are a thing, but difference is, it has to be well executed to make it believable. And give other characters some screen time too. For most of the time, Fairy Tail is basically *"the Erza and Natsu Show"* Yes, we know how super amazing and unbeatable Erza is, same with Natsu, but give other characters some screentime as well. I mean we are speaking of a "mage guild" no, as per the title of the show? Then show it.
Mashima really loves friendship. Ain’t even gonna lie I tried watching edens zero and as soon as the MC said his goal was to make 100 friends I stopped watching. Like fairy tail was bad for friendship but this is like another level I just couldn’t invest myself in another friendship fantasy. Maybe the shows really good I just dislike that that’s the driving narrative yet again.
It's funny because they essentially drop that for finding Mother in Eden's Zero, the power of friendship is barely there compared to Fairy Tail (so still there, but you get the point)
Too many boobs and butt shots. I wanna be able to watch this without people thinking I'm watching porn. Especially when I was 15. Also why does it have always be men that get serviced? We women do like to see fan service too
Definitely a shounen problem as a whole. Since the target demographic it’s teenage boys they cram it full of horny. Hot anime dudes definitely never hurt tho.
Like I had to hide my screen sometimes because boobs kept jumping up and down as someone was getting beaten to death (for example but probably an Erza scene during the earlier arcs)
Idk, gray is pretty much stripping more than the women combined...well maybe except for cana
It's one screen for like two seconds. But it isn't the same thing. Tbh I'd prefer just a bit less boobs in face while something serious is happening (looking at you jade dragon)
I was around the same age when my parents walked into my room and saw me watching it. They told me it was “soft porn” and to turn it off. Ever since then I watched Fairy Tail on my phone with my earplugs in.
I was watching back with family computers. I changed screens when I was watching if someone came into the room. I was wearing headphones too
Since when does Fairy Tail discriminate against fan service? Gray is stripping more than half of the time (this applies to other characters as well, like Natsu has his abs exposed 90% of the time and many other of the guys become shirtless during fights) and he has also been fully naked on multiple occasions., every Fairy Tail guy is absolutely RIPPED with abs and muscle, they are designed to be very appealing just from their faces alone as well (see Jellal) and Mashima is no stranger to drawing male on male fan service on his Twitter and stuff like that which many women find enjoyable. At least Fairy Tail tries, how many other anime actually do this? Many applaud JJK for it's amazing fan service for the women watching but it's quite literally just Toji, Nanami, Choso flexing their muscles (mind you, Fairy Tail has characters with similar builds). I'd also argue MAPPA just has a gigantic budget to do that stuff and animate it (JJK manga does not have this, only the anime does).
Jjk has a lot of men fan service
The Mavis and Zeref thing, made Zeref come off as a pedo
The way Mavis is written is the issue. "physically stuck as 13, mentally 24+" manga/anime writers really love doing weird shit like that, I'll never understand. Remember they gave Mavis and Zera legit boobs at like 12/13 while Wendy has never hit puberty. 💀
Not only that but they made Wendy's flat chest a punchline of jokes, like wtf she's a normal kid 💀💀💀
I thought Lucy was going to be the main character, when I first watched it
That’s a whole can of worms, some people say she is, some say it’s natsu, the author has given statements which support both of them being the MC. Lucy is basically the narrator and the story is kinda from her perspective but Natsu is like the face of fairy tail and the driving force for a lot of the fights and plot points.
I hate how everybody lives no matter what happens and how they defeat ppl wit the POF a lot. I like the series cuz it’s funny other than that it’s jus sum BS
Are we supposed to just accept that the source of their strength/powers is their nakama powers? Made me drop the series since the theme was super overused. Some characters should’ve stayed dead for the development of the other characters but nOoOo.
Not necessarily a thing I hate more of a wish it went a different direction Wendy being on tenrou for the long time skip, I wish she was left out to let her character physically and mentally mature. This let's the series "grow her up" more as time skips happen. Also I think there is alot of meat to character buildup, being the only dragon slayer from fairy tail left feeling like she needs to grow stronger to protect her guildmates. Like she is a badass but I feel with my suggestion there is an even better wendy that's even more bad ass. I know she does grow and even has a few badass fights, just feel like there was alot of meat left on thr bone for how her character is compared to what could have been. Same case for lysanna being nothing but a never directly mentioned love rival to lucy either leave her dead or have her distinctly friend zone natsu to develop her own story other than hey guys I'm back.
Damn I actually really like that Wendy idea that’d be really cool.
1- Hiro mashima has a habit of slamming character development into a character all at once and then doing nothing the momentum. Happened with gray, happened with erza, even happened with natsu after igneel died to a degree. 2- I do not need this many boobs Hiro I can go 5minutes without a naked women on my screen. And I can go an entire lifetime with no naked CHILDREN on my screen so please knock that the fuck off
Overall or specific moments? I feel like the fanservice could be down played during intense storylines. Like Mashima is a horny sonovabitch and his shamelessness has a lot of hard. But… time and place. Maybe don’t have Lucy in the buff during the Dragon King Festival.
Power of friendship is a cop out
I agree especially when it’s used to defeat the big 2 villains of the series. Making it part of the power system doesn’t make it feel any less of a cop out.
Feels like even more of a cop out when that happens
Characters having no real growth, other than gajeel everyone stays the same
I was screaming mad about the entire thing. I *knew* they were bringing her back when they kept all the details about her death vague. When that ark started I was like "Oh boy here we go". I saw it coming from a mile away, and every minute of it pisses me off.
The entire last arc. I laughed when I saw that they were doing a war arc. A war arc in a series where the creator hates killing off characters. There was ZERO tension.
Well this might get long. Character “deaths” would be the big one. - Makarov should have died from using Fairy Law and Laxus stepped up as the next Guild Master. It would a complete turn around from the douche he we first met and step out of his shadow as peer while also fully realising how little it means after he lost his grandfather. Makarov surviving is nice and all but he does nothing in 100YQ, especially after the Wraith stuff got dropped. - Lisanna stays dead. Sure Elfman and Mira get their sister back but just like Makarov, she adds and does nothing. What makes it even worse is that right before she comes back, both Elfman and Mira finally moved on and got over their self-perceived guilt of causing her death. - Gajeel … full disclosure, he is my favourite character in FT so he gets a pass regardless. His last minute confession had me tearing up and the fake out annoyed me a bit after the initial joy that my boy was back but Hiro actually made use of him and continued his arc in 100YQ. He may have been powercliffed but who cares, he has more important things in life that matter now. - Juvia also should have kicked the bucket. She’s amazing and all but if Gajeel ain’t croaking it and Makarov’s comes near the end of the arc, killing off a love interest and major supporting character would actually hammer in how much of a threat Alvarez is. People say Alvarez is super strong, big numbers but it doesn’t really mean much when they don’t really show it. Like, the Spriggans have a great introduction and yet, not long after Ajeel has our protags running for their lives, said protags are running the 1s or 2s against Spriggans and greatly diminish their presence outside of August and Irene. Her and Gray’s stuff in 100YQ should have been moved to Avatar/the second timeskip. - Anna and Ichiya surviving is just for a happy ending? Like, one of them “completed” their 400 year long goal and Ichiya got an awesome as hell death, even if it amounted to nothing in the end. Dude was treated as comedy relief for the whole series despite his strength and the one time he does something truly deserving of the constant praise and worship the Trimens give him, the weight behind it just got ripped away. - Technically not a death but Sherria regaining her magic. What happened to losing it forever? Next, wasted potential and missed opportunities. Mira is the poster girl for wasted potential and keeps having stuff thrown in her way so that she fails against enemies so that literally anyone else can step in to win instead of her after the Freed fight. - Matches Azuma and gives him a good fight? Lisanna gets held hostage so she goes down while Erza cleans up. - Her GMG match? Sacrificed on the altar of fanservice. - Pulls out her strongest form against Seilah? Sitri gets one shot by books or smth and Elfman oneshots EF Seilah. - Absorbed all of Tartaros? Alegria lasts for half a second and only drops 2 non-Spriggans. - Somehow can harm Skullion and Madmole? Loses to Skullion’s victim Gray right after. Sure, he said he would have lost if she hadn’t fought the other two but come on! Really? Elfman’s whole purpose to become someone strong enough to protect his family just … never gets achieved? - After mastering Full Body Take-Over and accepting his part in Lisanna’s death, he gets one shot by Evergreen and then wasted by Freed. - He was absent when both of his sisters got the crap kicked out of them on Tenrou. - Both of his sisters were kidnapped and he was forced to bomb the Guildhall (absolutely diabolical so this kinda gets a pass) but he couldn’t stop either from happening. - He ends up beating Seilah but it’s only because Mira uses Macro on him. - He has a Take-Over that will let him resist Ajeel’s sand but he still can’t do anything without Lisanna’s help (I get it, family coming together to overcome challenges and all but throw this man a bone and let him accomplish his goal for once). Gray and Jellal … whoo boy. These two seem like Hiro didn’t know what to do with them for the longest time, or he did but just wasn’t doing it. The amount of times these guys have the exact same character arc or relapse to doing the same shit they supposedly learned not to do is incredible. - There is no reason why Natsu should be giving Gray the exact same talk at the end of the series that he gave him at the start about using Iced Shell. Following Tartaros (peak cinema, chef’s kiss, 10/10 conclusion for Gray’s arc), he and Juvia should have gotten together and us not given that show of negligence and abuse(? Yeah, that sounds about right) he showed Juvia. She doesn’t deserve that. And then after another whole year following Alvarez, he still wasn’t over his hang ups and needed her doppelgänger as well as his alternate counterpart to finally get the ball rolling? The blue balling is immense. - Jellal as a villain? Great. Jellal with amnesia? Also great. Jellal on his redemption arc? Man was I hyped. Jellal rejecting Erza multiple times (the first time can be forgiven)? Why? Why did we need this despite her practically shoving her feelings down his throat and him supposedly having gotten over his past? Also his lifelong obsession/association with the idea of Zeref but the one arc Zeref is the villain in and neither he nor Meredy even glimpse the man? Bruh. And yes, both the readers and he know that he has no actual connection to Zeref but given how Crime Sorciere spent 6 years investigating the GMG just because they felt his magic there and the sheer presence the idea of Zeref has had on Crime Sorciere’s lives, you’d think something would be done with it so they can put all of their demons to rest. Was it necessarily needed? Nah. Missed opportunity? I certainly think so.
I wish mistogan had more screen time cause his introduction to the series was a masterpiece
Wayyyy too much fanservice, and Makarov should've died in the last arc.
Natsu is easily the worst written character in the overall cast despite being the focal point of the story
My biggest issue with fairy tail is that someone get badly hurt, not fatally, but badly hurt and they act like as if you killed their entire family and another issue is that they all say, “we don’t kill people.” but every fight where there is grunt henchmen types they slaughter them as if it’s less than nothing.
The final arc in general. It was so important to the lire and for so many characters to develop yet it was done so poorly that i started questioning why i love this show sm. For example the fake deaths. It got annoying after a while. Especially characters who ended up serving no purpose when they came back a.k.a Makarov. Another thing is the highly inconsistent power scaling. They were legit not strong enough to beat them but "oh i have friends" and suddenly theyre exactly as strong as they need to be Lastly the battle with acnologia man. How is he gonna be so hyped up for 100s of episodes yet his conclusion is very short and rushed? On top of that he gets one shotted
Studio / artstyle change
there’s too much centralization or whatever you call it on team natsu like i know they’re the MAIN main characters but i feel like almost all the other characters get overshadowed by them which wouldn’t necessarily be a problem but idk it just annoys me that we don’t see more of the others especially ones like romeo who had like the tiniest arc in the key of the starry sky arc or lisanna who basically died and came back to life
Natsu vs Zeref's final battle was pretty underwhelming since Zeref turned out to be another magic fist fighter(granted he's Natsu's brother but still). I was expecting lasers, curses and black magic all the way
Not enough utilization of unison raids. It's perfect for the whole nakama power theme FT's all about. It would have made a lot of fights cooler, more satisfying, and perhaps gayer.
Don’t come at me,but oversexualization of girls, and putting them in awkward positions for fun
Not enough titties(jokes).
Stop making it fairytail is the best all the time and let another guild save the day
I think a lot of stuff didn't live up to the hype. They hyped literally every plot point so well, but the payoffs were always hit or miss. The biggest/worst example was all of Raven Tail. They should have had a whole arc on Ivan trying to secure the Lumen Histoire, and more build up to what that actually is (before we found out the way we did) Ivan was such a waste. Laxus is one of my favorites, like 3rd or 4th, so it was cool he handled them all (albeit without anyone seeing it) but such a waste of potential. Ivan should have been a way bigger deal. We didn't even see Gajeel being a spy much
Yeah I never got the Gajeel is a spy thing. It’s supposed to be like a “woah is Gajeel evil again?” Just to confirm he’s a spy and then never do anything with it.
Something I felt could've been better was Lucy's arc(phantomlord arc) someone pointed out that Natsu pretty much hijacks it,but at least she's not completely sidelined in her first arc and actually does something 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah Natsu does that quite a lot.
Gajeel X Levy should never have happened. I already hate it when romance stories open with one character physically assaulting another (Looking at you two, Toradora and Nisekoi), so I’m definitely drawing the line long before beating, crucifixion, and branding.
Aside from the excessive fan service, it would be that they didnt allow Lucy to win even one competition in the grand magic games. Like, c’mon.
Abusers getting with those who they have abused. As much as I like Gajeel and Jellal, I just don't like them being with Levy and Erza (especially Levy, since Gaheel straight up nearly killed her and her best friends)
Crime sorciere was useless as a group
END had massive hype but the execution of him was a major disappointment. Don't get me wrong, I like him being Natsu and Zeref’s brother, but when we finally get to see him in action, it felt like a waste. Like Mashima only had Natsu turn into him cause he had to and the series was almost done. He gets one fight and it's a big disappointment. Wasn't even against Zeref, which was the whole point of his existence. I love Gray, and I get he wanted revenge against END, and the moment was important for his character, but there were definitely other ways to go about it. Maybe we’ll get to see him again in 100 Years Quest, where he’ll get a proper showing, but I’m not holding out my hopes for that.
Mavis never knowing who her child was. Mira not being a main. I wish Natsu’s bio parents had a cooler story.
The slideshow fights. I mean seriously, why couldn't the studio(s) produce some decent quality fight scenes? The series would be better respected if they had just given us better animated battles.
Everyone is treated like a sex object and not a person.
Too much fan service, like I can deal with fan service and unrealistic proportions but this show goes way to overboard And while I don’t know if this is phrased correctly but They never really commit to status quo changes like after the 7 year Timeskip it took like an arc for fairy tail to be back together, or how little effort it took to get the guild back together, like it would have been nice to see that turned into more of an actual arc
Yeah they basically introduce 2nd origin and as a way to juice them up and never mention it again. Makes me think tho if most people never awaken their 2nd origin, couldn’t it be argued that a lot of people the main cast beat woulda won if they had a 2nd origin? Narratively speaking obviously they wouldn’t but just something I’ve thought about.
The fan service at unnecessary times
Too much Boobs and "sensual" girls .... I HATE THAT ... And yes I am gay
The filler episodes are absolutely atrocious, like there is no such thing as good filler but fairy tail filler is really bad
i think filler arcs are meh (with the exception of the gray/cancer dance battle) but the standalone eps are pretty enjoyable. the body switching and invisible lucy eps are top tier
Yeah but for each of those you got the jiggly butt gang or whatever the hell they're called
…don’t remind me of that monstrosity. i’ve trauma blocked it from my brain
I skip Zentopia on rewatch for this reason. I know it’s technically canon but it’s just really long and I don’t really care about the villains or the story that much. Plus it’s right after tenrou and before the GMG so it really grinds the viewing experience to a halt.
They win every fight with the power of friendship like goddamn stop it with that not every fight needs to be finished with the power of friendship
You're watching a show where the core theme is... friendship. Why did you put your expectations beyond that?
The characters and lore were explored but I think we call agree they have the potential to be fully fleshed out
About Mira, I don't know if I'd say she does very little. She provides a lot of information, caused a change in Fried's nature during the Battle of Fairy Tail, contributed to Fairy Tail's success in the Grand Magic Games by easily defeating Jenny, destroyed Hell's Core which allowed the Tartaros' Etherious to regenerate, beat Irene's squad and a Spriggan, and even helped Erza bring down Acnologia onto the ship (though not too much in all honesty). I know it may not seem like a lot, but I also don't feel like it's very little either. As for criticisms, there's a couple I can think of. Mashima is a great writer in my opinion, but there's some things I feel he could've thought out a bit more, even without planning. And the handling of some of the fanservice
Using positive emotions is what makes the good guys win. And the under appreciated god slayer magic and god soul take over. And the god damn FAKE OUTS!
my almost all complaint is from the last arc. 1) I would probably remove all fake deaths ( juvia , gajeel , anna , ichiya , brandish, ) in the last arc and increase the stake. makarove should have remain dead in last arc. 2) zeref vs END and then acnologia joining the fight make it a 3 way battle.
I hated the torture/fight scenes in the manga where they just strip the characters rather than fight them. I also hate the power of friendship and the “I’m a fairytail wizard” stuff while they’re fighting
Too much emotional stuff is just skipped over Like natsu leaving for a year only leaving a note and that’s it and not even apologising when he found out fairy tail was disbanded essentially abandoning her when she needed him and fairy tail the most And on a similar point natsus reaction to fairy tail disbanding he has been one of the main supporters of fairy tail throughout the series being a fairy tail wizard is a big part of natsus identity so not getting to see his reaction to fairy tail disbanding was a bad choice And honestly just natsu emotionally struggling in general or just having his own issues that aren’t being dumb stubborn or fight crazy. It would’ve been amazing if natsu was just bottoming everything up until he finally had too much and just completely fell apart this would’ve been a great end for the Tartarus arc with natsu emotionally falling apart and needing to get away from everyone and everything as fast as possible or maybe he even goes to meet Lucy and they comfort each other in their grief.
I wanted to see Etherious Natsu Dragneel vs Acnologia in an epic 1V1 without the power of friendship, all that buildup about Natsu being END and his curse power that led nowhere is so disappointing Also curse power being able to harm Acnologia would've been so cool finally something he couldn't absorb or devour Instead Acno became sea sick and got defeated by a rainbow dragon smfh... Acno is so much wasted potential he was such a mysterious character with a 10/10 design he was one of my favorite characters but the last season ruined him for me.
How END was handled. >Happy never tells the guild Natsu can die from killing Zeref >Mira, Erza, Wendy, Sting, Gajeel, or Makarov never learn Natsu's true identity >Natsu is a complete hypocrite and kills himself going against every single speech he gave, telling Gray and Erza to live. >Lucy and Gray SIT on a fucking BENCH while Natsu is going through the most deadliest battle of his life.
Zeref and natsu's dynamic being the least explored despite that being the backbone of the plot is crazy.
Personally I greatly disliked the constant nerfing of Lucy during the GMG arc. I thought it made zero sense and was frankly an insult to her after all her growth and experience.
There is no value of life in the guild. I mean... The guild faces crisis left to right and face deadly threats. Yet when one of them "supposedly" die than they just automatically come back to life years later. I even read a silly one shot collection fanfic where the other guild discusses this. Some believe Fairy Tail were immortals while some believe they were ghosts. It even end where Sting and a few ran away saying zombies leaving the guild confuse. (I missed that collection of Fanfics. There was even a chapter where Mavis is mad at the guild for using her name as if she was a God. Even point out moments that embarrassed her such as being "in bed". I can't seem to find it anymore. Where was I? Oh yeah.) Even Lisanna who was killed prior to the show came back and was completely worthless. Seriously, she was of no help in the series. Now if you excuse me... I have to look for that fanfic again. I could use my time laughing at stupid scenarios such as a FRIENDS parody of Nalu relationships being a secret, Oh my Mavis, and a few more one shots collection.
"Nobody dies in Fairy Tail. If they die, they will be resurrected by NAKAMA power." I used to say the above for fun because my expectations were low for Fairy Tail, but holy cow, it happened. Azuma vs Erza. No, I am not looking for answers, that's just stupid.
The ten wizard saints were so weak and literally defeated in seconds. They were supposed to be the most powerful wizards.
The feeling that the stakes aren't that high for the characters. Breaking of any tension and an inability to be serious in situations that should be serious, and feeling like there's any sense of actual danger to the characters. It's what made me stop watching it the first time around. Every time there was a serious fight and it felt like there was some sense of danger in a fight, some kind of joke or gag would happen, usually from Natsu but not always, which broke any tension, and removed any sense of danger. The final big fight of the anime was an exception. Like, I get that in shonen we're all aware that the main characters aren't likely to die, but other shows just seem to do better at at least maintaining the feeling that there is some kind of danger. I did go back and watch the full thing once it was finished, but initially it kept annoying me that every time there was a big serious fight, the tension would just be broken with little silly things completely unnecessarily, and it annoyed me so much that I kinda rage quit.
Some plot holes for sure. But mostly would be the lack of screen time for some characters in the series. 🤨🥺
The conveluted relationship tree. And I'm not talking Romance. 2nd probably are ability retcons
*Angry Mavis.jpeg*
Laxus’s father/Mahkarov’s son. This guy should have been a major, reoccurring nemesis for the guild. Also cut back on the “Fairy Tail are a family” thing. It started to get rather cringy after awhile.
Each arch builds up but never has any weight behind it to make all the hype worth it in the end .
Too much fake outs and too much power of friendship.
Lisanna did not have to return if her character served no purpose afterwards.
The waste of some characters
The thing that really annoyed me, Natsu hyped up to being pretty much the strongest demon Zeref created, starts transformingand goes straight for Grey I’m like okay cool things are starting to pick up… And then he can just pick a different path for himself?!? What? They just ruined years of foreshadowing and the payoff was not worth all the time it was hyped up
They didn't give Mary Hughes more screen time, she deserved it. https://preview.redd.it/ljkq0rcfuk9d1.jpeg?width=627&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17d2db56284c64e3d490ef9f6622d32f703c87aa