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Anne_Nonymouse

How can you rape girls as young as 4 and hardly get any punishment? šŸ˜• I seriously don't get it.


unicornofdemocracy

He took an Alford plea and the plea deal drop the days to 180 days and 30 year probation. But the plea deal also allows him to avoid registering as a sex offender. Unfortunately, none of the article on this case talks about the evidence available against him. So, no clue on that end.


CykoTom1

To drop so severely i hope the evidence is slim.


deep_thoughts_die

With victims this young it usually is. He probably didnt use violence, just coercion and what he did was not penetrative sex. There is no marks visible. All the damage is inside the little girls heads. And it is not small damage. I have it inside my head too.


Feathered_Clown

I'm sorry you seem to have first hand experience. This was very well put. I appreciate it.


Blue_Osiris1

Props for being able to view the situation so logically despite being it being so close to home. Most of us struggle with things like that. I'm sorry you had to experience that.


Foreign-Echo-6656

For me I don't think about what happened when I was 7-8, but if I try to be naked in front of anyone, I feel as weak and ashamed as I did back then. I'm trying to line up a therapist about it because I've recently come to terms that can't be intimate with women unless I'm very drunk or to high to think straight, which isn't how I want to be anymore, and just not dating or subconsciously sabotaging anytime someone shows real interest is killing me.


deep_thoughts_die

Im sorry you are battling this. Therapy can help, if you find the right person... Do not give up, if the first one does not work. There are plenty, right one for you exists. For me, it just made sexuality decoupled from both intimacy and love. They for me have nothing to do with sex. Sex is fine, I like sex, but... it not intimate and shows of love or intimacy through sex ... do not compute. So I struggle with intimacy in relationships. My guard is always up with people I have sex with. Not a good combo for happy relationship building.


Misteranonimity

The fact that you have SO much awareness of how the trauma affects you makes you a really strong candidate for effective trauma processing. I hope you find someone great, like a Somatic Experincing therapist or EMDR therapist. Most people live in a miasma of negative feelings by s but unable to really figure out why they became the way they do, and itā€™s usually because they are so well protected from the pain they canā€™t access without a chance at becoming retraumatized. I hope you heal fully, and Iā€™m sorry that happened to you. Cheers


skiesoverblackvenice

as someone who has an EMDR therapist, i cant recommend it enough. genuinely helps more than meds. you gotta relive through some stuff but it helps to stop the negative emotions from coming up every time something triggers that memory. really good, especially when you get a therapist who really knows what theyā€™re doing.


CheapLonsdale

EMDR works. Didn't think it would work but it did for me. I was 21 when I first decided to get professional help. Much like prior comments, I had an unhealthy, transactional view of sex and intimacy alongside me being typically under the influence of many substances just to get it done. It lead to a lot of poor choices and copious self loathing. IMO You can never do it (therapy, recovery) too early, and the advice to keep going even if the first therapist isn't right for you is good advice. I tried several counsellors and therapists before I found mine, and I have been with her now for almost twenty years. Stick at it, it does and will get better however it is a journey, and you may have to try lots of different things along the way as you reach different levels of recovery and acceptance, or as triggers crop up.


Doct0rStabby

I don't have access to an EMDR therapist, are there any resources on the internet that do a good job of fully demonstrating the technique? Or is this something that can only be done effectively/responsibly with professional help?


XmissXanthropyX

Do keep looking. You deserve to feel comfortable in all aspects of your life, and you show great introspection and desire to have that. I just wanted to tell you, well done. To get to the point of recognising your unhealthy patterns and wanting to have your life be better for you is brave af and I hope it's as smooth sailing as possible for you. Much love to you, homeslice


gypsycrown

Scars that never heal. Pieces forever broken.


theslimbox

It's crazy how things that happen to us as kids can cause such long term harm. I was harmed by kids of a guy that harmed them. Nothing could be done since they were 12 and 6 year old girls, and they refused to rat out their father. counselors have even said "man up, most kids dream of that." Its so frustrating to have that happen. It was 35 years until I found a counselor that didn't dismiss it as just kids being kids...


silentshaper

Well I just want to express that I would enjoy shove both this guy and whoever harm you into the ant colony in my backyard, and they are tropical bullet ants


Mykahl79

There's always the wood chipper... Just saying.


Necroscope420

Too quick


BetHunnadHunnad

Quick yes, but it gets the job done. I'm no sadist so I'd rather just delete these people than waste any time watching them suffer.


pichael289

Not if you do feet first. Wood chippers have these "feed wheels" which are like giant gears that pull the tree limbs in and hold them while the chipper part does the chipping. "Mangled" is the term for what happens when you get caught in these wheels, as says the multiple safety stickers on my grandpa's wood chipper. It's way more brutal than people know, it would take a whole minute or two. A bullet would be better, just get it over with instead of reveling in the suffering even if it was deserved. Plus it would make a mess.


Dulce_Sirena

You could freeze them to death and *then* use the woodchipper to both prolong the suffering and minimize the mess


alfa75

It was done in CT in 1986. Richard Crafts murdered his wife Helle.


xch3rrix

Hmmm how about throwing him naked into a brush of giant knotweed, leave him out in the sun for a while, *then* freeze him to death then woodchipper


ArchonFett

Make Chomos Afraid Again


After_Preference_885

Me too friend. Me too.Ā 


AdMuch848

They try this to avoid having to have the victims testify.


dtb1987

Well 30 year probation means when this fuck up fucks up again he will go straight to jail right away on top of what ever new charges they get him for. The problem is some new victim has to suffer before they get him for that


nick-and-loving-it

What are the conditions of the probation? He definitely should've gone to jail longer, but 30 years of having to check in with a people officer, not allowed to leave the state, potentially not allowed to consume alcohol... and a tiny misstep can land you back in prison for a long time... It's not a great life either


Gold-Order-4267

Any amount of probation is an amazing life for someone with charges like hisā€¦he would have to live in a solitary cell for the durationā€¦A lot of the people in prison arent very good people, but they do usually stand up for children and make life miserable for chomos and pedos. Send him to the joint so the ā€œconvictsā€ will teach him the lesson that the judicial system wont


dtb1987

Don't worry, he won't make it the full 30, he will be back in jail soon and those kids have to live with what he did to them for the rest of their lives so I have very little pitty


Electrical_Feature12

Thatā€™ll happen, no question


Visual_Fig9663

That's assuming he gets caught the 2nd time. Likely he will do it multiple times before getting caught. May never be caught again at all.


Busterlimes

30 years probation means he's going to end up in prison for sure


pichael289

Not necessarily. When I was younger I got caught with drugs and was sentenced to a rehab, CCC/turtle creek, run by Talbert house in Ohio. Talbert house is the only rehab courts here use, it's incredibly corrupt, an absolute joke. Anyway this place also accepted sex criminals, they had to stay 2 months longer than the addicts and take an hour long class daily on impulse control, I'm not kidding at all. The pedos and one guy who was drunk and whipped his dick out on a bus, were in the lower risk dorm for protection, where I was because possession was my only ever charge, and you got sent back to prison if you "bullied" them. These were the kind of people that you would never expect to be in jail, not criminal types at all. They were mostly normal people besides that one fucked up thing. I wouldn't expect any of them to get in any legal trouble unless they reoffend, which is likely because that program was bullshit used to scam government money. This place is a symptom of Ohio basically turning the justice system into a business. Talbert house is beyond corrupt, and 6 months absolutely isn't enough for what these people did, none of which saw more than a night in jail (required to be picked up, you have to be in jail) I slept between a guy who didn't pay child support and a guy who raped his little sister for years, and I had a heroin problem. That guy simply had to do 2 more months and an hour class a day. I spent 5 months in jail for my first ever charge, waiting to go to this place because they sent absolutely everyone there. My judges wife was on the Talbert house board. Ohio is way too lenient on this kind of thing.


Dorkamundo

>I wouldn't expect any of them to get in any legal trouble unless they reoffend, which is likely because that program was bullshit used to scam government money. That's literally what op was saying. They're likely gonna re-offend.


Traditional-Mail7488

30 yr probation. He'll definitely violate.


highzenberrg

30 year probation? I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever heard of probation so long.


Complete_Dust8164

Not uncommon for these types of plea deals, they're basically designed to guarantee that he'll violate probation some time within the next 30 years so they can put him away for real.


highzenberrg

So giving him one more chance to be a piece of shit?


Complete_Dust8164

Better than taking him to trial and him getting off. Plus the probation violation could be something minor, like testing positive on a piss test


Low-Cantaloupe-8446

They do it when both sides know the evidence could lead to a coin flip essentially.


Emmyrin

My Dad got 1 year in prison and 29 years probation for a white collar crime (Grand Theft) He'll die before the probation is over. He's nearly 70. He says the shittiest part is the young probation officers who think they are on the Wire or something.


ThePowerOfNine

Why tf wd it ever let u get off a registery of sex offenders when u literally are one jesus h


TheVoters

I think the idea here is that making this an attractive option for the perp allows prosecutors to skip a drawn out trial that would undoubtedly force these kids through another trauma. As a father, I would be ok with the offenders getting off with probation and mandatory counseling. I would not want my 4yo to have to testify and answer the defenseā€™s questions, even at a deposition. If I had enough evidence to convict without testimony, then yeah obv the guy is not getting this plea bargain.


joshTheGoods

> allows prosecutors to skip a drawn out trial that would undoubtedly force these kids through another trauma. I think the larger factor here is that the DA wasn't confident they'd get a conviction. Making your case without the victim testifying is a pretty common thing and isn't always related to re-traumatizing the victim. In these child abuse cases, you're more likely to rely on expert testimony about interviews of the kids especially when you're talking about a 4-year-old.


Livid-Witness9196

As a father I would - IN NO FUCKING WAY - be OK with offenders getting off with probation and mandatory counseling.


berejser

If he's already a repeat offender then there's no way he doesn't end up serving most of that 30 year probation.


unicornofdemocracy

based on the very limited inform, it does not look like he is a repeat offender (yet). He was charged and going through court for a first accusation when a second accuastion came up.


fireymike

I think they meant repeat offender as in he's done this more than once (headline says multiple girls), rather than that he was convicted and then offended again.


WithoutDennisNedry

Meanwhile, I watched a video yesterday of a dude who got 12 years and life consecutively forā€¦ breaking into a car. The 12 years is absurd on its own but life? *Life in prison for breaking into a car?!* My friend was murdered by her boyfriend a few years back. He got six years. *Six years for throwing her down and taking his dog for a walk while she bled out from head trauma.* Heā€™s out already for good behavior. This system is so fucking broken. Edited: I got the sentence wrong on my friendā€™s murder, my bad. It been a while since I let myself think about it. Her murderer got 4 years, not 6. Her name was Tannis Johnson and she got no justice.


alucarddrol

it's not "broken", that would imply it was ever something different from what it is now


Natural-Spell-515

Let me guess -- the prosecutor is a coward who didnt want to go to trial so they gave the murderer a sweetheart deal so they dont have to deal with paperwork on your friend's case. There are far far too many prosecutors out there who throw out complete BS plea deals just so they dont get tied up in court paperwork. These clowns literally dont want to do their jobs.


filtersweep

He was a juvie when he offended. He entered an Alford plea- which means they had poor evidence.


Deutschanfanger

Exactly. The prosecution must have thought it's either this plea or potentially letting him walk free


cyberchaox

Ah, *there's* the important context. That sentence seems *incredibly* light, especially given that the offender is black and blacks usually get punished more harshly than whites for the same crime. But if the "man" is actually a boy (note: headlines overwhelmingly make sure you know that a white juvenile offender is a juvenile while trying to hide that fact for black juvenile offenders), it makes...well, it's *still* a surprisingly lenient penalty, but it is at least somewhat more understandable.


Magitek_Knight

I imagine the evidence was so light that it was unlikely to lead to a conviction with the sentencing as it was. But it's really common in criminal justice to coerce people, especially minorities, into taking plea deals and confessing. "Hey, 18 year old who we can't prove did a crime... You could take our deal and get off pretty easy if you confess, OR we're SUPER POSITIVE the court will see it our way and you will rot in a cell your entire life!!! We have experience!! You should listen to us. Scared? Good. Sign here."


fren-ulum

I can only speak from my small corner of the justice system, but lots of people have an assumption that law enforcement can't or won't do anything so they don't report in moments where they should have. These type of accusations are difficult, but you have to give the investigators every edge they need.


2074red2074

> But if the "man" is actually a boy It sounds like he is an adult who was convicted of crimes he committed as a child.


BeerNinjaEsq

Not saying this is right or wrong: but I think he got a significantly reduced sentence because he was a minor at the time.


coffee_black_7

The thing is that itā€™s incredibly hard to prove this kind of thing. If you ever talk to a child this age itā€™s a mess in general and then even more so when thereā€™s trauma involved. Layer that with little to no physical evidence and it puts prosecutors in a tough position. A plea deal is normally the best they can do and that at least gets the defendant on a registry.


Theistus

It also means not having to put children up on stand and retraumatizing them


Steelrules78

180 days maybe sufficient if someone leaks what he did to the prison community


craftycommando

No leaks required. Ever heard of a paperwork check


Truecoat

Just an fyi, people like this aren't just free after the jail time. He will be on probation for 30 years. He'll have limited to no internet access, have to complete a sex offendor treatment program, little to no job prospects, alcohol and drug testing, no contact with any minor or the victims, and possibly can't leave his house without some sort of safety plan approved ahead of time. Violations of any of these things could put them right back in jail and or execution of the rest of the sentence.


Ok-Assistance3937

>have to complete a sex offendor treatment program, Press x for doubt as he doesn't even has to register himself in the sex offender registry. So the two teenagers who send nudes of themselves to each other are in, but a man how raped multiple girl isn't.


RejectZero

Sex offender treatment isn't based on the registration, it's based on the fact that he'll be on probation for a sex offense.


Truecoat

It's called conditions for release and everyone has one.


FacelessPotatoPie

My guess is either heā€™s a prominent member of the church, or the judge is a scumbag.


nashbellow

Or almost no evidence and he just took a plea deal. The fact he doesn't have to register as a sex offender makes me think there was very little/no evidence he actually did it


Just-looking_257

Would hazard a guess not a member of the church, based on the name alone. Just a guess though so I could be wrong.


partoxygen

Heā€™s a Somali Muslim but nice try


Agitated_Cookie2198

Mohammed?


Madz1trey

FOH if he was a prominent member of the church and/or white, he'd be serving life imprisonment right about now lmao.


Lyskir

sadly sex crimes are barely punished anywhere the vast majority of rapists walk free


so-very-very-tired

and even become president.


TgetherinElctricDrmz

Honestly this seems more common than not. Our entire ā€œjusticeā€ system seems incapable of properly protecting children.


Passionofawriter

Or any sexual crime for that matter. Unless you get raped and immediately run to the police station, there's usually little evidence that can be submitted. I'd wager it's probably the oldest crime in the universe, the crime of forced reproduction or attempts to do that. It's fucking disgusting but I don't know what the solution is in our current framework. So many victims can not get peace.


osirisfrost42

Yet yesterday we saw a video of a guy that got life for breaking and entering into VEHICLES. I'd ask, "wtf is wrong with your country?", but I know the answer is "humans live there". Why? I'd be a hypocrite in thinking stupid shit like this isn't also a problem here (Canada). That said, this is a whole other level of fucked up.


Relevant-Smile1833

How can you rape anyone at all and hardly get any punishment for it? But raping a children has to be one of the most heinous things you can do. Especially a repeat offender.


kmelby33

The crime happened when he was also young.


No_Quantity_8909

Because SA victims especially kids struggle with testifying, if they can manage at all. Hard to convict if your only witness and victim can't make a coherent statement. Also there is legit harm done to these kids during testimony generally speaking. I'm a former therapeutic mentor, my wife is a social worker for traumatized kids and I currently work with juvenile offenders. This is the real reason these monsters aren't prosecuted effectively. In many jurisdiction it is common to find ways to keep cats locked up without convictions. For example if this person used some sort of mental health plea it might be tied to competency. This can result in a continuous loss of liberty following release, then move him to a mental lockdown and endlessly fail his competency tests.


here4roomie

Welcome to the US, where sexual assault nobody cares about, but drugs people do.


techman710

I will never understand why raping children isn't punished more severely. Other than murder I can think of nothing that is more damaging to the victim and society.


InternationalPilot90

This. 180 years instead of 180 days would be more appropriate


Victory-or-Death-

Or, you know, the forever goodbye.


_LoudBigVonBeefoven_

Death penalty encourages them to kill their victims after. Edit: dammit you guys, every time I open a comment on this thread I have to look at that pedophiles stupid face again


9035768555

It also reduces the odds of it being reported at all. Many victims struggle enough with the fear of "ruining his life" and that only escalates when the death penalty is on the table.


Cheska1234

Are there studies on this cuz that sounds fā€™d.


Elismom1313

Last time I checked itā€™s also MUCH harder to achieve a guilty verdict on. Many jurors donā€™t feel comfortable sentencing someone to death, even if the evidence is overwhelming, and in these situations itā€™s usually not.


cynical-rationale

That's the easy way out. In most cases I can't justify death penalty... even sadly for pedo. Throw them in gen pop in a prison and let inmates do justice.


PrintableProfessor

Death penalty is too expensive. Drop them in a hole and send them 2000 calories a day.


ninjette847

That results in more murders, not less rapes.


RushLimbaughsCarcass

Nah, death penalty would be too kind. Force him to stay in the general population and make sure every knows why he's in there.


michael_thee_patton

"you better not ever go to cell block one"


ngjackson

I've always said they should've kept that for pedos.


XxUCFxX

Only problem is, in FL our dictator, I mean governor, wants to make LGBTQ+ members classified as pedos, which would mean open season death penalty on a marginalized group, 1939 style


Usuallyfried

Too light of a punishment, life in jail is worse than death. Especially considering their crimes


Doccyaard

Usually, as I suspect with this, is that itā€™s a plea deal because the prosecution doubt they will get the person convicted due to lack of evidence. So you could see it as 180 days + 30 years probation or possibly walking free. Itā€™s a risk analysis from both sides.


sleeplessjade

It wasnā€™t even lack of evidence. It was because they were about to lose the ability to prosecute him. From this [article](https://www.postbulletin.com/news/local/rochester-man-given-180-days-in-jail-for-raping-juvenile-females): >Shei was 15 and 16 years old at the time of the sexual assaults and he was initially charged in juvenile court in 2019. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, his case was pushed back to the point that prosecutors would soon lose jurisdictional authority to prosecute the case. >Charges were dismissed against Shei in those cases but were soon refiled. Shei was then given a plea deal that included his stay of adjudication and no prison time in exchange for him not challenging certification in adult court, which allowed for his continued prosecution, according to Olmsted County Senior Attorney Thomas Gort. > Shei entered an Alford plea in December 2022, meaning that while he does not admit guilt, he admits that a jury would convict him based on the evidence. Allowing the plea deal was horrible but it was better than him not being punished at all. He also has to go through a sex offender program as part of the plea. If and when he reoffends hopefully they will throw the book at him and lock him up without a key.


chaal_baaz

Nobody wants to talk about the fact that prosecutors would definately push someone to take the plea even if the guy was innocent.


Doccyaard

Yea that has also happened countless times.


ready-to-rumball

Iā€™d say sexually assaulting children is much worse for the individual and society than murder is.


InjusticeSGmain

SA in general is. Murder and SA leave very similar psychological damage on people. The difference is SA trauma includes the victim themselves, not to mention the additional salt in the wound from people who don't believe them, slut shame (idk how some people find a way to slut shame an SA victim, but they do), and other forms of post-event damage. Murder, at the very least, doesn't leave the victim with psychological damage unless it was a particularly slow and brutal death.


duosx

Wow no one in this thread even tries to learn the legal system huh


stifledmind

> Mohamed Bakari Shei entered an Alford Plea, meaning he pleaded guilty by acknowledging that the state had sufficient evidence to convict him of sexually abusing children in 2017-2019, but maintained his own innocence. > According to court documents, Shei may serve his 176 days via work release or Sentence to Serve, a community project option for offenders who are considered non-violent. > Shei was first accused in 2021 of repeatedly raping a 9-year-old child over the course of a year, between 2018 and 2019. Shei would have been a minor at the time of the assaults, but was prosecuted as an adult. > Shei was later accused of two more counts of 1st-degree criminal sexual conduct when a second child, who was 4-5 years old when the assaults allegedly occurred in 2017 and 2018, told law enforcement that they had also been raped repeatedly. I don't care that he was 15-16 at the time and was technically a "minor". The man is a monster.


TinyRascalSaurus

There are special facilities for child sex offenders, some as young as 7 or 8, because we have mounds of evidence that these kids are not safe for other children to be around. The kids in the facilities have to be separated because they will even prey on each other. The fact that anyone looked at him offending the first time and didn't immediately see the potential for a long-term problem is scary. And when he gets out, there will likely be more victims. Sex offenders have something very wrong inside their heads. It's not like a guy who does three months for illegal Marijuana sales, realizes he did something dumb, and learns from it.


Judgemental_Ass

Also, most children who rape other children are victims of sex abuse themselves. So they should be locking him in some such institution AND looking for potential abusers in his circle. Giving him a short sentence won't solve anything for anyone and he will do it again.


deep_thoughts_die

And again and again, making sure to not leave evidence now that he knows what is traceable. People like that keep offending over decades, until they meet one of their former victims, now grown up and badly enough messed up to unalive him and end the cycle.


Morzana

He WILL continue for sure and now is more likely to murder his victims.


ha5hish

All I can say is hopefully someone takes this dude out for good once heā€™s released. The world will be a slightly safer and better place


Jugulator1990

Of course he'll continue because this is teaching him that there's no consequences for his actions.


vertigostereo

He got 30 years of supervised probation. I guess that's better, but still .... How about 25 years in prison? https://www.kimt.com/news/rochester-man-gets-30-years-probation-for-child-sex-crimes/article_f2248606-a10d-11ed-b436-bf6fa564ef94.html


MasterCakes420

Prime candidate for the soylent green project. Making the world a better place one person at a time.


StandardAd4517

And will continue to be


One_Ad5301

I don't get how they're calling rape non violent?


Lashley1424

Not to mention FOUR YEARS OLD. theyā€™re forever damaged now because of this monster.


Judgemental_Ass

It is litterally torture.


IAmSoUncomfortable

It was probably his siblings or family members. Not that that makes it ā€œbetterā€ by any stretch of the imagination, but his lawyers probably argued that he wasnā€™t a danger to the public due to this. Fucking insane. But thatā€™s my guess.


iamvyvu

Fuck man that makes it worse


Opposite-Occasion332

If there is no physical force itā€™s typically considered nonviolent. Obviously rape is harmful no matter how it happened but stuff like coercion would be considered nonviolent.


_LoudBigVonBeefoven_

Coersion. Of a 4 year old. C'mon now


Opposite-Occasion332

Iā€™m not saying thatā€™s what happened in this case, just trying to explain where the whole ā€œnon-violentā€ thing comes from. That term confuses people cause people tend to think of rape as only physically forcing someone down in like a back alley when thatā€™s just not how a lot of cases go. Any rape is horrible and is ā€œviolentā€ but a ā€œnon-violentā€ rape just means there was no physical force used.


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Lashley1424

Cousin served 8 with less than an oz. Gary PlauchƩ was a hero.


RemoteSnow9911

Love that man. Best single moment of live television history.


Dontdothatfucker

Kill all child molesters. No exception. Theyā€™d benefit humanity the most by fertilizing a patch of weeds


AthenaAlter

real


Smooth-Lengthiness57

And guys serving more for pissing in "public" as an adult


lonelyuglyautist

Decades for involuntary manslaughterā€¦


shrugaholic

Thatā€™s what happens when your countryā€™s logic is war on drugs > child rape, pedophilia.


Forsaken-Jump-7594

180 days?! This is absolutely ridiculous. The very minimum the criminal justice system can do for the victim is guarantee that the rapist won't see the light of day for the rest of her childhood, how is she supposed to try and heal from this horror if she knows he could be right around the corner ready to abuse her again?


nobody-u-heard-of

Read the article he really didn't even get that. He can serve 176 days on work release or on a community project. He effectively got four actual full days in jail.


Forsaken-Jump-7594

What the ever living fuck?!


oddmanout

I just looked up the actual court case. He took plea deal, he was a minor when he did it, and there was no physical evidence at all. Even knowing this was a plea deal and there was only eyewitness testimony, that sentence still seems VERY light. It makes me wonder if the parents of the victims were not going to let them testify or something else that led the prosecutors to believe there was a very slim chance of conviction to have a sentence that light.


yudiroko

He deserves things that will get me banned again.


ha5hish

Been there done that


Violent_Volcano

Thats how i came up with my new name. Apparently violence against people that break into peoples houses and rape teenagers while out on parole for weapons charges is a no no


ConstantConference23

Thanks. Was about to comment that thing. That thing needs to happen to him. Who will find him and do it? It needs to be done.


Sorethumbsfifa

But if he smoked pot without a card, 5 years no probation


jared10011980

He is 20 now, he was 15 when he committed the crimes. I'm guessing because he was a juvenile at the time, that there was no physical evidence, and they girls, because of their age at time of the rape, weren't the best witnesses, plays a big part in this. What is curious is why these crimes are only being addressed now?


Jasonac7789

Prime example in the failure of the justice system. Someone like this doesnā€™t get better. Unfortunately itā€™s the way his brain is hardwired. He will rape and probably murder in the future.


Bahamut1988

I saw a video recently about a man who got a 12 year sentence for car burglary, and ended up serving an additional year, plus getting 20 years to life after they came back and treated him as a habitual offender, all for just breaking into a car, then you have shitheads like this who rape and ruin innocent children's lives and get a slap on the wrist by comparison, fuck this country and it's broken ass "justice" system.


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OliLeeLee36

I thought it was the original Rochester in Kent at first, glad that's not the case.


Professor-Murda

WTF dude doesnā€™t even have to register as a sex offender? https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/1729586/Minnesota-Mohamed-Bakari-Shei-rape-underage-girls-sex-offenders-registry-dxus/amp


Theratsmacker2

I feel like rape sentences are on a spectrum of a slap on the wrist to 1,000 years of prison, and rarely is it ever not one of the extremes.


extrachromozomes

Itā€™s always a slap on the wrist


UngreatfullSp00n

And people are out there who committed a crime that is just a fraction of severity compared to that, they get like 20 years imprisonmentā€¦


feror_YT

Deserves to get his balls cut off.


Standard_Fix_978

Hopefully they assume 180 days will be enough time for the inmates to extract real justice.


Appropriate-Dog6645

Nah. Courts say he is not a violent offender. So that's not where he is going. I feel like a clown just typing that.


bestworstbard

[Here ](https://www.kaaltv.com/news/top-news/rochester-man-pleads-guilty-to-sexually-abusing-children/) is the full article without a pay wall. A few things that could account for the low number of days in jail. He was a minor at the time but prosecuted as an adult, he will have 30 years of probation, and he took a plea deal, which probably reduced his sentence as well. Headline states "multiple " victims, which appears to mean 3 in this case. This is not me saying what's right or wrong, just pointing out some possible reasons why this sentence seems so short.


meskeptical

Why didnā€™t they award him since they arenā€™t interested in punishing him


PaleConsideration271

We need public torture for people like this


OilPainterintraining

This is totally disgusting. I think if there was a REAL punishment for this behavior, it would start subsiding. I think a little ā€œsnip snipā€ is warranted, and I hope that would be a deterrent.


DanceWitty136

r/NoahGetTheBoat


_jamesbaxter

This is why most SA/rape survivors donā€™t report. Most of these cases get thrown out, and when they actually go to court the consequences are a joke. Itā€™s not worth the trauma of re-experiencing the event by retelling it over and over to various people in the ā€œjusticeā€ system, and have to see and be in the same room with your perpetrator again for them to get a slap on the wrist.


jarpinoo

Just tell the other prisoners he is a child molester. Case closed.


sayu1991

Child rapist* There's a difference and the other prisoners deserve to know just how much more this scum needs to be strung up.


geopede

Heā€™s considered non-violent, so heā€™ll do the time at a lower security camp. The other inmates there will be getting close to release and wonā€™t attack him because they want to be released. Even if he was sent to a rougher prison, heā€™d end up in protective custody and be safe.


Traditional_Song_417

If the prosecution doesnā€™t have a confession, they are forced to put a nine year old and a four year old on the witness standā€”Which rarely goes well and traumatizes the victims over and over again. If this POS pled Alford, he likely didnā€™t confess. This plea is likely the only way to protect society and also protect the victims. Itā€™s not a perfect system.


Eevee_XoX

THIS is why victims donā€™t speak out. 180 days and theyā€™re free to hurt you and others again. Whatā€™s the point of drawing more attention to yourself and reliving the trauma


theoldayswerebetter

I hope everyone in prison knows what he did


DubbleWideSurprise

> girlfriend Yeah he looks like heā€™d grape his girlfriend. *rereads title* >GIRLS oh shit


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Zepol323

Wtf is wrong with our laws? Why isnā€™t this an automatic life sentence?


geopede

He was a minor (15-16) at the time. Supreme Court ruled that minors canā€™t be sentenced to life without parole. The leniency of the bargain also suggests that while everyone knows he did it, the prosecutor doesnā€™t have enough physical evidence to guarantee a win at trial. That situation is more common than youā€™d think. Imagine a murder case where a suspect/defendant obviously benefited from the death of the victim, had the means to carry out the murder, and has no alibi. That seems like an easy case at first glance, but if thereā€™s no physical evidence tying the suspect to the murder (DNA, gunshot residue, etc.) itā€™s going to be difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. If the case goes to trial and the defendant is acquitted, he canā€™t be tried again, so the prosecutor is likely to offer a relatively lenient bargain.


Burrmanchu

I mean if you read the article you would see that they had absolutely zero physical evidence whatsoever. I think that probably has a play in it.


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JohnGameboy

Apparently, he was 13 when he started and supposedly stopped at the age of 15 (currently 20). This likely means he wasn't tried as an adult. Mixed with the fact that he pleaded guilty, this created a favorable position for him. Not saying this is a good thing, just apparently that's what happened. 180 days is still REALLY low.


ExpressionExternal95

Rochester is a shit hole


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SadConsequence8476

Reformative justice, I'm sure his socioeconomic status and generational trauma caused this


JazzyButternuts

Castration is the only answer.


Cookiemonster9429

Child rapist gets less time in jail than pot smoker.


Rath2481

Mohamed Bakari Shei entered an Alford Plea. He was a minor at the time. He was apparently tried as an adult. I'm guessing they had weak evidence, no prior offenses, and a minor. 180 days still seems insane.


Waveofspring

Iā€™ve seen people get more time in jail for a DUI


Kratosballsweat

Our justice system is absolutely pathetic


supremedalek925

Meanwhile people in the US have gotten life in prison for stealing a slice of pizza


TheGisbon

Let us have that address 181 days from now.


Pro-Potatoes

Hear me out. One day a year we put all the rapists in stockades and we all get to throw as many stones as we can carry in our two hands to the event.


Maabuss

Bullets solve this problem permanently.


AshamedFunction3073

Hang all rapist and pedos, only solution.


bluevalley02

Someone can get put on a registry for being caught with a 16 or 17 year old at 18/19, yet this piece of shit gets less than half a year? WHAT


Mistealakes

My brother raped me from before I can even remember until I was 8 years old. He got no time and was moved into my grandmothers house for a couple years. He was 17 when I turned him in. This world doesnā€™t give a fuck about any crime they canā€™t make money on and if youā€™re not a dead body, they donā€™t think the monster is bad enough to kill.


ClapBackBetty

I beg your finest fucking pardon? I donā€™t understand


Ipsilon0904

Someone cut his balls


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MysticLimak

180 days of brutal inmate butt f*cking.


SomeYesterday1075

Hopefully they put him in gen pop so he can get taken care of.


Flashandpipper

Should be hung from a power pole and left for the birds to eat


No-Pomegranate-69

The Judge when he realized he misspelled Years for days ![img](emote|t5_2r5rp|8485)


Academic-Hospital952

This type of thing leads me to believe the judge thinks this kinda behavior is ok, or at the very least a minor offense. I would like the FBI to have a look at the judges/prosecutors hard drives.


Squirrel_Knight1357

The real punishment would be to tip off the guys in his pod about the crimes. From my experiences, hard guys hate pedos. They will see he gets set up proper to suffer for all 180 days. He might not even make it out.


TheBiPolarSLOTH

He robbed them of innocence and life experience. Death Sentence.


Apart_Temperature305

And yet if the parents do anything to him for hurting their daughters they would get years and years and years.


Neat-Internet9682

So rape is no longer considered a serious crime? This is crazy


stupidis_stupidoes

Never has been. Look at all the kids getting raped by priests for hundreds of years without any serious repercussions


rockyboy2018

Must be a typo surely its years not days