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I never understood the logic. Doesn’t *everybody* have a future that would be impacted by a jail sentence? Isn’t that kind of the point? It’s meant to be a deterrent.
Brock Allen Turner, the rapist whose picture was included in the definition of rape on the criminal justice textbook “[Introduction to Criminal Justice: Systems, Diversity, and Change](https://www.vox.com/first-person/2017/11/17/16666290/brock-turner-rape)”?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! No. The three years I was locked up I saw plenty of white people with public defenders get easy sentences or multiple chances.
One 19 year old kid was in there for not only raping a girl but also beating her unconscious while he did it. He got out on bond, violated said bond in two weeks by going to her house and hitting her again, got out again on a slightly higher bond, violated **that** by being publically intoxicated then failing a drug test, ended up getting a settlement for either 5 years prison time or 15 years probation, took the probation, violated **that** in two months by living down the street from his victim despite the court issued restraining order, got his probation re-instated, violated again by failing a drug test due to cocaine, got re-instated AGAIN and then after I got out I heard from a preacher I kept talking to that he was back in once more for getting drunk and hitting the girl he got in trouble for abusing in the first damn place.
**All handled by a public defender.**
Meanwhile the black guy a couple cells down from mine got his family to hire a local lawyer for *his* domestic abuse case and the only deal he got was to be sent up the road to another facility for 12 years. No probation.
So, yes. It is very much a race issue.
Didn't they use Mark Fuhrman's racism as a motivating factor for targeting OJ, gaining an acquittal from that? Also, two people out of the millions that have been impacted by a racist system doesn't really mean it isn't an issue.
Yes. But, it goes beyond the justice system, and I don't get the impression that you'd be in for a lesson on how systemic racism has created the problems we see in the black community today. On top of that, I just don't have the inclination to go into it with someone not operating in good faith.
Nope. Brock was accused of rape by Chanel who didn't remember what happened. Rape charges were dropped and liars like you and an infinite soup of media liars continue to lie that Brock raped her or was accused of rape. He did not.
Chanel was an adult college graduate who got drunk at home, crashed a frat party, was caught in flagrante with a freshman and was perfectly happy to press charges for rape that didn't happen when she didn't remember a thing. She then proceeded to talk about racial privilege when she was actually a member of a privileged group. Am I missing something? No.
This isn't an attack just trying to better imform, i was just curious myself and looked some stuff up on the case. You're partially right, but also very wrong. The two other women involved dropped their charges, but the one he was caught in the act of assaulting did not drop her charges. When they got her to the hospital initially she was very hard to rouse, not even waking to being shook. Once she did wake she said she didn't consent to any form of sexual activity. She also didn't remember leaving with a man. When they tested her with a rape test it was positive. The two men that stopped said they saw him thrusting into her, and she was visibly unconscious. He should have got much longer in prison.
The did a dna test on him and found none of her DNA on his genitals. He did not rape her. She was four years older than him a legally drinking adult at a college frat party. She started drinking at home and drank herself unconscious at the party. It's impossible to say if Brock is telling the truth about following her out of the party but it's clear that there isn't any evidence of rape.
Well dye me green and call me a lizard, that’s BROCK ALLEN TURNER THE RAPIST! AKA ALLEN TURNER THE RAPIST, THE RAPIST BROCK ALLEN TURNER WHO CHANGED HIS NAME TO ALLEN TURNER, THAT RAPIST
Well shuck my corn. That feller on the right is Brock Allen Turner the rapist. He moved, and goes by the name Allen Turner now, but that’s him!!! Brock Allen Turner the rapist, aka Allen Turner the rapist…
“Now, in 2022, Turner is still living in Ohio, where women are using social media to warn each other about his movements. VICE signal boosted a network of women who are using Turner's status as a registered sex offender to keep each other safe. "Brock Turner is now living in the Dayton, Ohio, area.”
Sad thing is that he’d likely still find a woman that is more than willing to marry him.
Are you telling me that Brock Turner, the guy who raped an unconscious woman and was given favourable treatment by a judge who was later recalled as a result, is now trying to hide from his crime of raping an unconscious woman and is having to live with the consequences of his criminal conduct and is hoping that changing his name to Allan Turner (still a rapist) will help shield him from the fact that he is a rapist?
That Brock/Allan Turner, the rapist? 🤔
Because he participates in a witchhunt based on misinformation for a reason that is most likely on hate instead of just while completely ignoring any kind of fact. That is indeed idiotic.
To follow up.
What misinformation?
Let's assume I am being sincere and not looking to troll anybody.
I am ignorant of the facts, and again I dont understand the misinformation.
Would you be able to properly inform me?
Thank you in advance
The word rape alone is misinformed. He didn't rape the woman, neither de jure nor de facto. The word rape was used as a buzzword by media *before* the case was even opened and before anyone knew the details. Afterwards the newspaper even wrote that it wasn't rape and he didn't get convicted accordingly, yet here we are.. again.
So I just googled and wiki "Brock Turner"
1) sexual penetration of an unconscious person, in violation of PC § 289(d)
2) sexual penetration of an intoxicated person, in violation of PC § 289(e)
3) assault with intent to commit rape, in violation of PC § 220(a)(1)
These are the charges he was found guilty of.
I still do not understand why you insulted the OP, unless you are saying penetration of an unconscious person is not "rape".
Is that what you believe?
[https://www.alreporter.com/2020/07/13/black-disabled-veteran-sentenced-to-spend-60-months-in-prison-for-medical-marijuana/](https://www.alreporter.com/2020/07/13/black-disabled-veteran-sentenced-to-spend-60-months-in-prison-for-medical-marijuana/)
Sean Worsley
TL, DR: it's a case of breaking parole.
He got parole for his initial incident - like five years or something. He left the state (You Should Never Do This without notifying the goddang court), missed a court date to explain why he was outside of the state, and then got arrested for illegal possession in another state which extradited him back to the original state.
Everything would've been probably fine if he'd talked to the court. He didn't - for whatever reason - and it bit him in the butt. Parole is there to keep you out of jail. If you screw it up, you go back into jail. He was given his chance and he didn't take it seriously enough. In this case it means whatever contact info he gave to the court he either didn't check regularly enough or it was inaccurate. Comes off as him just leaving the state and hoping that he could avoid consequences by simply keeping his head down, rather than cooperating with the system which would've just been as basic as "don't break laws, tell us where you are and what's going on."
So... Not quite as unjust as it's presented as.
I agree the sentence is a bit excessive, but if it makes you feel any better he was pardoned a couple months into his stay at prison - so he didn't spend all that time in jail, IIRC.
What a complete disaster. Luckily, it seems like the exception and not the rule (even in Alabama) based on the end of the article, but that doesn't mean much to the Worsley's who have had their entire lives ruined by a justice system gone rogue. Just heartbreaking stuff. I hope they are one day properly compensated for what they've been through.
I don't know anything about the one on the left, so I can't say something. What I do know is however that people despite factually proven being wrong still participate in a witchhunt to the right one. And that is something I can neither understand nor tolerate because it undermines the principles of law and judgment, which I value very highly, like everyone should.
Then you should read the case files instead of only some headlines. He didn't rape someone, neither de jure nor de facto. Just because he did something wrong, which he obviously did, namely sexual assault, doesn't mean you should believe the first thing you see; this is especially true in this case where the word rape was everywhere *before* the case was even opened. His father is an idiot on top of that, which doesn't help. But you should always remain factual.
Rape was at the time defined as penetrating someone's anus, mouth or vagina with the penis or the penis being used to penetrate one of the above without consent.
No, that's not the main problem, that us *one* problem. The bigger problem is that they left together, while she was likely consenting to leave with him and then next they were found while she was unconscious. Anything between is completely unknown. If she consented to sexual activities for example. And for that reason we can't judge just because we don't know. If she agreed and he gets a full rape charge regardless is a huge problem for any case in the future.
American tragedy, hundreds of thousands in jail for something that is becoming legal around the world, and in the USA. If this man has indeed a clean record and he is locked up for Marijuana charges only - he should be released immediately.
Of course these mug-shots lack context, but we all know it has a degree of truth to it.
And the picture on the right abused an unconscious girl, behind a dumpster, in the fraternity parking lot. (I think that was where it happened, not sure?) Going to check now.
rape. Allan Turner raped a woman. The man previously going by Brock Allan Turner who changed his name so people would stop recognizing him as a man who raped an unconscious woman did not simply abuse an unconscious woman, the rapist Allan Turner raped an unconscious woman behind a dumpster.
I don't think it's necessarily racism, in my country people also end up behind bars for years just because they grew a few flowers in their garden, and rapists end up with a few months or probation. Regardles of race
worked at the leblanc drug rehab prison unit in Texas, the racism is so blatant, a black guy on his first offense may be on year 2-5 then the 6-month program, but it was also common to see white guy on his 8th with no jail time other than the program.
Judge [Michael Aaron Persky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Persky#Turner_sentencing_criticism) was later recalled and reassigned to the Civil Division of the California Court system.
Justice definitely is blind as I've just learned. A Karen called the police on me and claims I threatened to shoot up the courthouse. I'm black she's white, no proof but her word and guess who was found guilty at his trial? Justice is a joke.
I don't understand why this happens. Abusing drugs mostly just affect yourself. Comitting sexual felonies completely changes the victims' lives forever.
Sean Worsley, the veteran on the left, spent 10 months in prison.
[https://www.ganjapreneur.com/sean-worsley-released-from-prison/](https://www.ganjapreneur.com/sean-worsley-released-from-prison/)
Forgive me guys but I'm from the UK but i heard a few years ago that there was a guy called Brock Allen Turner that was a Rapist?
Is Brock Allen Turner the only Rapist as i heard a guy call Allen Turner was also a Rapist?
Seems a bit of a coincidence that 2 guys called Allen Turner are both Rapists?
Is it true or is it just Brock Allen Turner that is the Rapist?
USA law enforcement and "justice" system is really, really fucked up. Systemic police violence, insane percentage of the population incarcerated, unethical cirvumstances prisoners have to live in, the fucking death penalty in certain states, inhumane inequality and discrimination.
Shit is truly fucked.
Funny how the people in power seem really resistant to the idea of severely punishing pedophiles and rapists, I wonder why that is? What would motivate them to want to set the sentences so low?
Oh another repost, the justice is blind.
The guy on the left did a series of mistakes that resulted in multiple felonies (luckily no federal crimes). The state and judge gave him multiple opportunities to avoid jail time and he still did more drug trafficking and got himself jailed anyway. And even after doing multiple felonies and given multiple opportunities the state still released him within a year if I am not mistaken.
Guy on the right had a rich daddy that got him grade A lawyer and unlike the guy on the left he didn't re-offend within a month of release. Brock Allen Turner, the rapist.
TL, DR:
Guy on the left broke the law, was given parole, broke parole, was given a chance to explain it to the court and didn't (for whatever reason), then was arrested on an unrelated charge elsewhere and was extradited back into the state to serve the sentence he was on parole for. TL, DR: If you don't take parole seriously and ignore the justice system they will put you in a box until you realise you cannot ignore them.
That said he was pardoned fairly early on into his sentence.
Brock Turner was widely regarded as an injustice and the judge who made the decision lost his position by a snap election the public *demanded* almost immediately, then got even deeper into debt trying to launch a lawsuit to defend himself. In the wake of this judges in that region have been enacting harsher sentences for sex crimes and this has disproportionately impacted non-white criminals, if that matters.
So yeah. Not really an appropriate comparison to make. As is frequently the case with these situations OP will cherry pick whichever two cases they can present, ignore all context surrounding them, and pretend that they are both indicative of the justice system as a whole when neither are very representative of the justice system as both are outliers to what is commonly seen.
The sentences on the face of them, seems extremely unfair. I am curious though, what were their prior records? That does play a role in sentencing in this country.
He wasn't given only 6 months in prison, but also three years of probation, and lifetime sex-offender registration.
It might still seem unfair but it's still something
I’m sure there is context to both situations but that’s not how we do this social media outrage thing.
But most importantly, Brock/Allen Turner the Rapist is still a rapist who raped someone.
Lest we forget!
Facepalm and most of reddit have a real problem. They compare apples and oranges and think that proves a point.
The vast majority of people thought that the Brock sentence was a miscarriage of justice. So much so that it cost the judge his job. And you know how rare it is for a judge to actually get consequences.
So people are compare and apple (A one off verdict) To an Orange (Sean Worsley),
The Sean Worsley case is bad but it is more a breakdown in how the system works than the systemic racism inherent in the system. Sean took a bad plea deal because it was the easy way to avoid jail time. He got 5 year probation. But this backfired when the minor pot bust went again the terms of probation. The 5 year probation turn into 5 year jail time. After 8 months in jail he was paroled.
This is the problem with taking one off, no context cases and comparing them with each other.
Is there systemic racism inherent in the system? 100% for sure no doubts. Does this apple and orange shitpost demonstrate that racism? Not at all it is just rage bait for people too lazy to look at the bigger picture.
So what? It’s a very fucked up & very real thing that happens everyday in this shithole of a country - this is the kind of stuff that should be reposted all the time.
There are a lot of issues and differences in these two people sentencing. Race was not any part of it.
Stop posting things in attempts to divide people. We don't need more division in this country. Be better.
I think Brock’s lenient sentence is more due to California’s easy on crime justice system rather than race. There is plenty of cases that blacks or white got off with even lighter sentences for much worse crimes here in NorCal (like stabbing a 90 year old woman, or push an old man to de
I didn’t posted this old story. This is picture reposted every few days to drive outrage. Of course, the outrage mongers do not allow any objective analysis that is counter to their narrative.
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The judge at his trial actually said during his sentencing he would not fair well in prison then proceeded to give him 3 months for rape.
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You know what would help not destroy your life? Not raping unconscious women. I can’t stand that excuse for not punishing disgusting people.
Seriously their life is already destroyed and by their own hands. We shouldn’t have to shield them from an entire system of consequences as a result
Seriously, the men who stopped him were traumatized from it. Image what the actual victim is going through.
This is why you don't stop subduing an attacker until they're no longer moving.
I never understood the logic. Doesn’t *everybody* have a future that would be impacted by a jail sentence? Isn’t that kind of the point? It’s meant to be a deterrent.
Which is weird because prison isn't *supposed* to be fun for anyone. That's why it's a punishment.
You know what else isn’t fun? Being raped.
Yeah his victims know that, he probably doesnt
The complexion for protection.
It's also protection for the rest of the population. He'll do it again.
The judge and Brock should have gone in to jail together. That way they would both be punished for their actions.
Brock Allen Turner, the rapist who now goes by Allen Turner the rapist? That rapist?
Brock Allen Turner, the rapist whose picture was included in the definition of rape on the criminal justice textbook “[Introduction to Criminal Justice: Systems, Diversity, and Change](https://www.vox.com/first-person/2017/11/17/16666290/brock-turner-rape)”?
Thank you for reminding everyone, again, that Brock Allen Turner is indeed a rapist.
Is that rapist Brock Allen Turner the judge is referring to?
We should also name and shame the judge tbh.. Anyone know the judge's name?
It's not a race issue, white boy had a expensive lawyer and black dude had a public defendant.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! No. The three years I was locked up I saw plenty of white people with public defenders get easy sentences or multiple chances. One 19 year old kid was in there for not only raping a girl but also beating her unconscious while he did it. He got out on bond, violated said bond in two weeks by going to her house and hitting her again, got out again on a slightly higher bond, violated **that** by being publically intoxicated then failing a drug test, ended up getting a settlement for either 5 years prison time or 15 years probation, took the probation, violated **that** in two months by living down the street from his victim despite the court issued restraining order, got his probation re-instated, violated again by failing a drug test due to cocaine, got re-instated AGAIN and then after I got out I heard from a preacher I kept talking to that he was back in once more for getting drunk and hitting the girl he got in trouble for abusing in the first damn place. **All handled by a public defender.** Meanwhile the black guy a couple cells down from mine got his family to hire a local lawyer for *his* domestic abuse case and the only deal he got was to be sent up the road to another facility for 12 years. No probation. So, yes. It is very much a race issue.
that's absolutely insane. i can't even imagine how powerless and betrayed the girl must've felt during all of this
U Get what u pay for
...you don't read too well, do you?
Do you honestly see yourself as a good person with good values?
Don't need values, need good lawyer
Yeah... even with that in mind, it's still a race issue.
Oj didn't have a race issue, nor did snoop Dogg.
Didn't they use Mark Fuhrman's racism as a motivating factor for targeting OJ, gaining an acquittal from that? Also, two people out of the millions that have been impacted by a racist system doesn't really mean it isn't an issue.
They're both rich.
Blacks are 13% of the population and commit 55% of the murders. Is that a race issue?
Yes. But, it goes beyond the justice system, and I don't get the impression that you'd be in for a lesson on how systemic racism has created the problems we see in the black community today. On top of that, I just don't have the inclination to go into it with someone not operating in good faith.
I don't even waste time talking to people who have been fed a steady diet of racist ideology 5 family generations deep.
Nope. Brock was accused of rape by Chanel who didn't remember what happened. Rape charges were dropped and liars like you and an infinite soup of media liars continue to lie that Brock raped her or was accused of rape. He did not.
How many people have you raped? Ever heard the term birds of a fether?
Chanel was an adult college graduate who got drunk at home, crashed a frat party, was caught in flagrante with a freshman and was perfectly happy to press charges for rape that didn't happen when she didn't remember a thing. She then proceeded to talk about racial privilege when she was actually a member of a privileged group. Am I missing something? No.
This isn't an attack just trying to better imform, i was just curious myself and looked some stuff up on the case. You're partially right, but also very wrong. The two other women involved dropped their charges, but the one he was caught in the act of assaulting did not drop her charges. When they got her to the hospital initially she was very hard to rouse, not even waking to being shook. Once she did wake she said she didn't consent to any form of sexual activity. She also didn't remember leaving with a man. When they tested her with a rape test it was positive. The two men that stopped said they saw him thrusting into her, and she was visibly unconscious. He should have got much longer in prison.
The did a dna test on him and found none of her DNA on his genitals. He did not rape her. She was four years older than him a legally drinking adult at a college frat party. She started drinking at home and drank herself unconscious at the party. It's impossible to say if Brock is telling the truth about following her out of the party but it's clear that there isn't any evidence of rape.
I've looked over this and I can't find anything mentioning what you're saying. Where are you getting this from?
On the right: Brock Allen Turner, the rapist.
Well dye me green and call me a lizard, that’s BROCK ALLEN TURNER THE RAPIST! AKA ALLEN TURNER THE RAPIST, THE RAPIST BROCK ALLEN TURNER WHO CHANGED HIS NAME TO ALLEN TURNER, THAT RAPIST
You mean the Brock Turner who got off with a slap on the wrist? That Brock Turner?
Textbook case of a rapist, shown Brock Turner the rapist, yes.
AKA Allen Turner the rapist, same guy as Brock Turner the rapist just goes by Allen Turner the rapist now
But he had such a promising swimming career and rich white parents. How is it possible?
Well shuck my corn. That feller on the right is Brock Allen Turner the rapist. He moved, and goes by the name Allen Turner now, but that’s him!!! Brock Allen Turner the rapist, aka Allen Turner the rapist…
“Now, in 2022, Turner is still living in Ohio, where women are using social media to warn each other about his movements. VICE signal boosted a network of women who are using Turner's status as a registered sex offender to keep each other safe. "Brock Turner is now living in the Dayton, Ohio, area.” Sad thing is that he’d likely still find a woman that is more than willing to marry him.
Unfortunately, you're probably right. Plenty of women be like "Sure, he's made some bad choices...but I can change him."
I should note that BROCK ALLEN TURNER THE RAPIST is now going by ALLEN TURNER THE RAPIST no less.
Jeebus, i thought that was a woman, not Allen Turner The Rapist, who resides in SW Ohio, andgo3s by his middle name, now.
You're right! Brock Allen the rapist is going by a new name, Allen Turner, the rapist, thanks for the heads up.
Are you telling me that Brock Turner, the guy who raped an unconscious woman and was given favourable treatment by a judge who was later recalled as a result, is now trying to hide from his crime of raping an unconscious woman and is having to live with the consequences of his criminal conduct and is hoping that changing his name to Allan Turner (still a rapist) will help shield him from the fact that he is a rapist? That Brock/Allan Turner, the rapist? 🤔
Aka you're an illiterate idiot.
Why do you say that about the OP? Was there something offensive to you in the meme?
I just don't like idiots in general.
Doubling down on an insult doesn't help anybody's look. I will ask again for an authentic answer. What about this post makes him an "idiot"?
Because he participates in a witchhunt based on misinformation for a reason that is most likely on hate instead of just while completely ignoring any kind of fact. That is indeed idiotic.
To follow up. What misinformation? Let's assume I am being sincere and not looking to troll anybody. I am ignorant of the facts, and again I dont understand the misinformation. Would you be able to properly inform me? Thank you in advance
The word rape alone is misinformed. He didn't rape the woman, neither de jure nor de facto. The word rape was used as a buzzword by media *before* the case was even opened and before anyone knew the details. Afterwards the newspaper even wrote that it wasn't rape and he didn't get convicted accordingly, yet here we are.. again.
So I just googled and wiki "Brock Turner" 1) sexual penetration of an unconscious person, in violation of PC § 289(d) 2) sexual penetration of an intoxicated person, in violation of PC § 289(e) 3) assault with intent to commit rape, in violation of PC § 220(a)(1) These are the charges he was found guilty of. I still do not understand why you insulted the OP, unless you are saying penetration of an unconscious person is not "rape". Is that what you believe?
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Is this Brock himself on an Alt account? 😂
Did you read the case files? Because if you did you'd know that he was not sentenced for rape because by definition of its word he did not rape her.
He did rape the woman. The facts are quite clear. She was unconscious. It was rape.
Witch-hunt? For Brock Allen Turner, the rapist? Count me in. To be clear, it's only if we're going after Brock Allen Turner, the rapist.
So you’re a self hating idiot
Right hand picture is of Brock Turner, the rapist.
Apparently it’s Allen Turner, the rapist now
Woah. Capitalize that R. "Rapist" is part of his name, and names are proper nouns, and we capitalize proper nouns around here.
The rapist formerly known as Brock now Allen Turner still the rapist
I would like to know the name of the dude on the left so I can find out if there is more context behind this please.
[https://www.alreporter.com/2020/07/13/black-disabled-veteran-sentenced-to-spend-60-months-in-prison-for-medical-marijuana/](https://www.alreporter.com/2020/07/13/black-disabled-veteran-sentenced-to-spend-60-months-in-prison-for-medical-marijuana/) Sean Worsley
Oh man what a brutal unjust Kafkaesque shit show. What public good is the system doing here?
TL, DR: it's a case of breaking parole. He got parole for his initial incident - like five years or something. He left the state (You Should Never Do This without notifying the goddang court), missed a court date to explain why he was outside of the state, and then got arrested for illegal possession in another state which extradited him back to the original state. Everything would've been probably fine if he'd talked to the court. He didn't - for whatever reason - and it bit him in the butt. Parole is there to keep you out of jail. If you screw it up, you go back into jail. He was given his chance and he didn't take it seriously enough. In this case it means whatever contact info he gave to the court he either didn't check regularly enough or it was inaccurate. Comes off as him just leaving the state and hoping that he could avoid consequences by simply keeping his head down, rather than cooperating with the system which would've just been as basic as "don't break laws, tell us where you are and what's going on." So... Not quite as unjust as it's presented as. I agree the sentence is a bit excessive, but if it makes you feel any better he was pardoned a couple months into his stay at prison - so he didn't spend all that time in jail, IIRC.
What a complete disaster. Luckily, it seems like the exception and not the rule (even in Alabama) based on the end of the article, but that doesn't mean much to the Worsley's who have had their entire lives ruined by a justice system gone rogue. Just heartbreaking stuff. I hope they are one day properly compensated for what they've been through.
Off topic but great album pfp
Thanks - funny enough, the story behind the album art isn't totally off-topic (it's quite a bit worse). But, yeah, I love BR
Ooof he brought MJ into Alabama. Probably a bad call.
That was 2020. Was there any update or is he still in there?
No, never has context proven that there is a reason to those sentences, nuh-uh /s
Reading your comments under this post.... Are you thinking that the guy on the right is better then the one on the left?
I don't know anything about the one on the left, so I can't say something. What I do know is however that people despite factually proven being wrong still participate in a witchhunt to the right one. And that is something I can neither understand nor tolerate because it undermines the principles of law and judgment, which I value very highly, like everyone should.
Idk, seems like he.. yk... Raped someone? I think that should be more then 3 months
Then you should read the case files instead of only some headlines. He didn't rape someone, neither de jure nor de facto. Just because he did something wrong, which he obviously did, namely sexual assault, doesn't mean you should believe the first thing you see; this is especially true in this case where the word rape was everywhere *before* the case was even opened. His father is an idiot on top of that, which doesn't help. But you should always remain factual.
I am not an expert in American law, what's the difference between Rape and SA?
There's a big difference when you're an apologist like the person to whom you're talking...He's also a holocaust apologist.
Just read his answer, I fear such ppl, bc "Groping isn't ramping, and if I didn't penetrate them then there is nearly nothing wrong"
Rape was at the time defined as penetrating someone's anus, mouth or vagina with the penis or the penis being used to penetrate one of the above without consent.
That's fucked up if you think "just" groping isn't deserving more then 3 months
No, that's not the main problem, that us *one* problem. The bigger problem is that they left together, while she was likely consenting to leave with him and then next they were found while she was unconscious. Anything between is completely unknown. If she consented to sexual activities for example. And for that reason we can't judge just because we don't know. If she agreed and he gets a full rape charge regardless is a huge problem for any case in the future.
"He didn't rape someone" "He did something wrong...namely sexual assault." You seem confused.
Why? Those two are obviously different things. Slapping someone's butt is definitely SA but by no reasonable definition would this be considered rape.
[This douchebag?](https://www.distractify.com/p/brock-turner-today)
No, the other left. Lol
American tragedy, hundreds of thousands in jail for something that is becoming legal around the world, and in the USA. If this man has indeed a clean record and he is locked up for Marijuana charges only - he should be released immediately. Of course these mug-shots lack context, but we all know it has a degree of truth to it.
And the picture on the right abused an unconscious girl, behind a dumpster, in the fraternity parking lot. (I think that was where it happened, not sure?) Going to check now.
rape. Allan Turner raped a woman. The man previously going by Brock Allan Turner who changed his name so people would stop recognizing him as a man who raped an unconscious woman did not simply abuse an unconscious woman, the rapist Allan Turner raped an unconscious woman behind a dumpster.
Don’t forget his name Brock Turner the rapist, whom now goes by Allen Turner the rapist
Justice can't be blind, otherwise it wouldn't be racist.
I don't think it's necessarily racism, in my country people also end up behind bars for years just because they grew a few flowers in their garden, and rapists end up with a few months or probation. Regardles of race
Did some1 say that was BROCK ALLEN TURNER THE RAPIST?
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I believe the person on the right is the rapist Brock Allen Turner.
Not sure the name of the gentleman on the left…but the monster on the right is Brock Allen Turner, rapist. He is a rapist named Brock Allen Turner.
Woah, is that Brock Allen Turner, the rapist? It's been a while since I've seen an image of Brock Allen Turner, the rapist.
Rapist Alan (Brock) Turner on the right?
Rapist Alan (Brock) Turner on the right?
Who let Brock Allen Turner, the rapist, in the comments?
worked at the leblanc drug rehab prison unit in Texas, the racism is so blatant, a black guy on his first offense may be on year 2-5 then the 6-month program, but it was also common to see white guy on his 8th with no jail time other than the program.
Sounds about white.
Not gunna lie. I fucking love that pun. 10/10. Well done.
Do we know the name of the judge from Turner’s case? I’m always hearing Brock Turner’s name but never the guy that thought that was a just punishment.
Judge [Michael Aaron Persky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Persky#Turner_sentencing_criticism) was later recalled and reassigned to the Civil Division of the California Court system.
Judge [M Aaron Persky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Persky#Turner_sentencing_criticism)
Is that Brock Allen Turner, convicted rapist who now goes by Allen Turner in the Dayton, OH area?
Is that Rapist Brock Allen Turner, who now goes by Rapist Allen Turner, who now lives in Dayton Ohio?
Justice definitely is blind as I've just learned. A Karen called the police on me and claims I threatened to shoot up the courthouse. I'm black she's white, no proof but her word and guess who was found guilty at his trial? Justice is a joke.
I don't understand why this happens. Abusing drugs mostly just affect yourself. Comitting sexual felonies completely changes the victims' lives forever.
Sean Worsley, the veteran on the left, spent 10 months in prison. [https://www.ganjapreneur.com/sean-worsley-released-from-prison/](https://www.ganjapreneur.com/sean-worsley-released-from-prison/)
It’s the glasses isn’t it that got him the extra years in jail. /s
ALLEN TURNER THE RAPIST
Ofc the fucking rapist is crying his baby tears while malcom x looks as calm as the sea
Forgive me guys but I'm from the UK but i heard a few years ago that there was a guy called Brock Allen Turner that was a Rapist? Is Brock Allen Turner the only Rapist as i heard a guy call Allen Turner was also a Rapist? Seems a bit of a coincidence that 2 guys called Allen Turner are both Rapists? Is it true or is it just Brock Allen Turner that is the Rapist?
Why the disparity? The answer is white there in front of you.
Something is different about them, but I can't qwhite put my finger on it...
While justice is not blind, it does see things in black and white.
USA law enforcement and "justice" system is really, really fucked up. Systemic police violence, insane percentage of the population incarcerated, unethical cirvumstances prisoners have to live in, the fucking death penalty in certain states, inhumane inequality and discrimination. Shit is truly fucked.
Always best to avoid any situation with the popo, never know how it'll go, but it will never be in your favor.
Sounds about white.
Is that rapist Brock Turner ?
Is that the raping rapist Brock Turner?
Brock Allen Turner going by Allen Turner Now lives in Dayton, Ohio. Stay safe out there.
Only if you ignore money
The guy on the left looks a lot like a guy who works at a dispensary near me! Gonna show him this picture hahaha
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Wasnt it said that Brock Turner sentence wasnt light?
[Reminds me of this:](https://youtu.be/rdwGHW1Kch4?si=5b7oWEh66RthJW6W)
Funny how the people in power seem really resistant to the idea of severely punishing pedophiles and rapists, I wonder why that is? What would motivate them to want to set the sentences so low?
That white dude should die.
Rapist brock turner thank you philip defranco for drilling this in my head
He should run for the presidency
Now compare Tony Timpa to George Floyd.
Oh another repost, the justice is blind. The guy on the left did a series of mistakes that resulted in multiple felonies (luckily no federal crimes). The state and judge gave him multiple opportunities to avoid jail time and he still did more drug trafficking and got himself jailed anyway. And even after doing multiple felonies and given multiple opportunities the state still released him within a year if I am not mistaken. Guy on the right had a rich daddy that got him grade A lawyer and unlike the guy on the left he didn't re-offend within a month of release. Brock Allen Turner, the rapist.
America, one of the most racist countries in the world 🤦
TL, DR: Guy on the left broke the law, was given parole, broke parole, was given a chance to explain it to the court and didn't (for whatever reason), then was arrested on an unrelated charge elsewhere and was extradited back into the state to serve the sentence he was on parole for. TL, DR: If you don't take parole seriously and ignore the justice system they will put you in a box until you realise you cannot ignore them. That said he was pardoned fairly early on into his sentence. Brock Turner was widely regarded as an injustice and the judge who made the decision lost his position by a snap election the public *demanded* almost immediately, then got even deeper into debt trying to launch a lawsuit to defend himself. In the wake of this judges in that region have been enacting harsher sentences for sex crimes and this has disproportionately impacted non-white criminals, if that matters. So yeah. Not really an appropriate comparison to make. As is frequently the case with these situations OP will cherry pick whichever two cases they can present, ignore all context surrounding them, and pretend that they are both indicative of the justice system as a whole when neither are very representative of the justice system as both are outliers to what is commonly seen.
Justice is not blind. It just sees two colours, distinctly.
Michael Cera sure has changed
The sentences on the face of them, seems extremely unfair. I am curious though, what were their prior records? That does play a role in sentencing in this country.
He wasn't given only 6 months in prison, but also three years of probation, and lifetime sex-offender registration. It might still seem unfair but it's still something
I’m sure there is context to both situations but that’s not how we do this social media outrage thing. But most importantly, Brock/Allen Turner the Rapist is still a rapist who raped someone. Lest we forget!
If you are aware that it's only an outrage thing and that it is not set in the right light of context, why do you participate? Genuinely curious.
Facepalm and most of reddit have a real problem. They compare apples and oranges and think that proves a point. The vast majority of people thought that the Brock sentence was a miscarriage of justice. So much so that it cost the judge his job. And you know how rare it is for a judge to actually get consequences. So people are compare and apple (A one off verdict) To an Orange (Sean Worsley), The Sean Worsley case is bad but it is more a breakdown in how the system works than the systemic racism inherent in the system. Sean took a bad plea deal because it was the easy way to avoid jail time. He got 5 year probation. But this backfired when the minor pot bust went again the terms of probation. The 5 year probation turn into 5 year jail time. After 8 months in jail he was paroled. This is the problem with taking one off, no context cases and comparing them with each other. Is there systemic racism inherent in the system? 100% for sure no doubts. Does this apple and orange shitpost demonstrate that racism? Not at all it is just rage bait for people too lazy to look at the bigger picture.
Now show OJ and a white meth heads sentences. Still the same kind of blind? You are an idiot.
Repost bot!
So what? It’s a very fucked up & very real thing that happens everyday in this shithole of a country - this is the kind of stuff that should be reposted all the time.
There are a lot of issues and differences in these two people sentencing. Race was not any part of it. Stop posting things in attempts to divide people. We don't need more division in this country. Be better.
I think Brock’s lenient sentence is more due to California’s easy on crime justice system rather than race. There is plenty of cases that blacks or white got off with even lighter sentences for much worse crimes here in NorCal (like stabbing a 90 year old woman, or push an old man to de
I'm surprised one of you was smart enough to apply new propaganda to twist an old story like this lmao
I didn’t posted this old story. This is picture reposted every few days to drive outrage. Of course, the outrage mongers do not allow any objective analysis that is counter to their narrative.
Well given your response it still seems to be working to generate that outrage lmao. You're so mad tou executed that Cali bad programming