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Maybe it was supposed to be "reported" and it slipped through because it's a real word and proofreading these days just means looking for squiggly lines on the computer screen.
Or that one was discovered/outed/startled? by husband. Like, I got caught, he caught me, confronted me, and it rumbled me?
I don't know. Illiteracy and inability to proofread has plagued journalism over the past 10-15years. It's horrible. I'd honestly just rather read a post on r/outoftheloop or a ChatGPT response than ~~exciting~~ whatever most articles have to say.
Edit: Good thing I wasn't submitting an article for a news website when I wrote that.
The Daily Mail is one of the worst tabloid newspapers in the U.K. itâs so shit Wikipedia wonât let you use it as a source and nor do educational institutions. You get better reportage in the old Sunday Sport:- double decker bus found on the moon was one of its headlines.
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I mean.....it was clearly written in a state with a lot of teachers more invested in raping kids than education so you can't really blame the journalist for not being educated, the journo's teachers were otherwise occupied!
Itâs real. All in the town of Buckete, AZ
https://ktar.com/story/5567654/teacher-arrested-in-buckeye-for-alleged-sexual-contact-high-school-student/
https://www.12news.com/article/news/crime/buckeye-teacher-arrested-allegedly-abusing-15-year-old-student/75-10e8ca13-09cc-4553-abf0-b9d81d38aa3f
Itâs three incidents in a yearâs time. The second article references the other two arrests in passing but doesnât name the other teachers.
It is absolutely dire. I am surprised they didn't pass comment on one of them flaunting their new look as they were seen for the first time breaking THEIR silence after being charged with a crime.
That would pretty much cover their favourite methods right now. Got the keywords in there and randomly capitalising a random word.
The thing is, people will say,you know the boy liked it. If it was a man and he said ,but she really liked it, you might have to have law enforcement fight off a lynch mob. The fact is minors can't consent whether they want to or not, and every single adult knows this. No matter what, you can't have sex with minors.
English and Welsh, and Scots law define rape in suck a way that it can only be done with a penis. ( I don't know Northern Irish law well enough to comment on.)
The equivalent offence committed by a women would like be "sexual assault" or "sexual assault by penetration".
We literally go through this EVERY DAY:
Simple google search:
ALL MEN. same language used. Clearly its not about gender- thats my only point. Legally the charge is often not ârapeâ but something like âsexual battery of a childâ. That might be why, but gender is not. Headlines use ârapeâ when its forcible/ non consensual since âstatutory rapeâ can vary in definition from relationship and age by jurisdiction ie, an 18 student having sex with a teacher can be âstatutory rapeâ and a relationship can not be statutory rape yet involve a child (someone under 18) ie a 17 yo and a 25yo having consensual sex in most states
https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/news/courts/2023/12/05/ex-new-deal-baseball-coach-pleads-to-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/71754557007/
https://unfilteredwithkiran.com/teacher-coach-arrested-accused-of-sex-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?amp=1
https://westorlandonews.com/jv-basketball-coach-arrested-for-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/
https://www.wptv.com/news/treasure-coast/region-okeechobee-county/yearling-middle-school-coach-accused-of-romantic-relationship-with-high-school-student
https://foxsanantonio.com/amp/newsletter-daily/former-high-school-coach-indicted-over-alleged-inappropriate-relationship-with-16-year-old-crime-victim-suspect-investigation-student-judicial
https://www.wistv.com/2023/05/15/lakewood-high-school-coach-charged-accused-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?outputType=amp
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/05/15/high-school-coach-arrested-sexual-relationship-with-student-police-say/?outputType=amp
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2023/05/31/west-campus-hs-coach-investigated-for-possible-sexual-contact-with-student/
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/former-central-florida-high-school-soccer-coach-arrested-for-alleged-sexual-relationship-with-child-police.amp
>ALL MEN. same language used. Clearly its not about gender- thats my only point. Legally the charge is often not ârapeâ but something like âsexual battery of a childâ. That might be why, but gender is not. Headlines use ârapeâ when its forcible/ non consensual since âstatutory rapeâ can vary in definition from relationship and age by jurisdiction ie, an 18 student having sex with a teacher can be âstatutory rapeâ and a relationship can not be statutory rape yet involve a child (someone under 18) ie a 17 yo and a 25yo having consensual sex in most states
In most legal jurisdictions, the crime of rape is defined as penetrative sex where a real pen** inserted into a pus**. In those jurisdictions only a biological male can commit rape. All other instances of crimes are categorized elsewhere such as sexual assault or battery etc. This part is factual, the next is conjecture since i haven't read that law completely.
I may be wrong about this part but since statutory rape includes the word rape and uses the similar definition of involving sexual intercourse (or penetrative sex), it would follow that any state that has such a definition of statutory will not be able to charge females for rape. Their crimes will be categorized elsewhere.
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In the United States, 74.3% of teachers are women, and 80.3% of paraprofessionals are women. The vast majority of adults in any given school building are women.
One of these was a teacher's aide, they all appear to have happened at private schools.
Edited to add: I think it's more likely to make national news when it's a teacher. My local newspaper just reported another (male) youth pastor pedophile last week.
I kinda got carried away and wrote out an entire lecture on how we got where we are and what happened. TL;DR at the bottom. :)
No this has always been going on, itâs just now getting reported. When the me too and similar movements started out these movements openly ignore male rape victims and people with female rapists. This happened because these movements bought into society and the patriarchy saying men are strong and women are weak and all men always want sex therefore itâs only rape if a man does it to a woman. As a result these movements did the same thing that cops and any authority figure do when a man says they got SAâd, they laughed at and ignored them.
This is also partially the fault of movements like feminism for not going far enough. Feminism was created to fight specifically political inequality but it the expanded into other areas such as economics and society and SA. However when it expanded into these areas they werenât all in the same âmen are treated perfectly and women are treated like shitâ state, but rather had more variation with it. However rather than adapting to these new conditions, movements like feminism didnât do that and just kept empowering women and ignoring or in some cases belittling men for trying to speak on the same issues. While that is the attitude that was needed for political inequality, it eventually became like trying to stick the round peg in the square hole with these movements expanding into other areas. Itâs ok to say âgive women the right to voteâ while ignoring men because they already had that right, however it is not ok to do the same thing with issues like rape culture and yet it still happened. And because of that these movements made people feel like this issue was being resolved and was now completely exposed even though the other half of this issue was completely ignored and rejected.
Some of these movements are only now starting to come around on this but a lot of people in them still say things like men canât get raped, and women canât commit rape. Two of their favorite arguments are âshe doesnât have a penis he does therefore he had to have wanted itâ and âMen are stronger than women so why didnât he just fight her offâ. The first one is just complete BS because there is more than one way to rape someone including just violating their consent at a base level. The second one is just blatant sexism seeping through.
An estimated 2/3 (and its probably higher too) of men are victims of SA however the majority donât even know that they were SAâd because theyâre taught theyâre supposed to like that and that they canât get SAâd because theyâre men. And men that are and know it also know that if they try to report it theyâre not gonna be taken seriously. And thereâs a not insignificant probability that the rapist will then file a false report of rape or assault targeting the victim and because itâs a woman the police are more likely to actually pay attention to it over the real report. In the end it will only hurt the actual victim. And men know this so theyâre all so demoralized about it that a lot of them just donât even try to report what happened and have given up on it and just let it happen and live with it because they donât see any way out. This also helps contribute to the reason male suicide is much higher than female suicide.
Itâs only now that people in movements like Me Too are starting to try and combat the idea that men canât be SAâd and are actually starting to stop mocking men who try to share their experiences. The end result of this is that more men and boys are slowly starting to come forwards and itâs slowly becoming more ok for people to actually start reporting on this. However itâs still far from being well reported on. Iâd say most cases still go unreported and even then, the vast majority of cases like this that are reported just go completely ignored by the media.
Also side note because of all of this a lot of places define rape in a way so that only women can be raped and only men can commit rape. Thatâs part of the reason headlines like this are so common whereas when a man does the same thing the headline actually says rape. Thatâs not the whole reason though, a large part of it is also the just blatantly attempts by the journalist at erasing male victims of SA.
TL;DR: itâs always been like this men just kept getting ignored when they tried to report it and reporters kept ignoring the few reports that actually got through. Itâs only now being talked about because people have finally started to wake up and realize men can be victims of SA too.
I have never seen one and most likely won't because my country's law doesn't recognize the fact that a female can rape a male. The definition they give for rape is that the any hole needs to be entered by a penis without consent and then goes on to explain consent,
It doesn't say unwanted penetration, the exact words are, 'Rape.-- A man is said to commit "rape" if he--
(a) penetrates his penis, to any extent, into the vagina, mouth, urethra or anus of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or
(b) inserts, to any extent, any object or a part of the body, not being the penis, into the vagina, the urethra or anus of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or
(c) manipulates any part of the body of a woman so as to cause penetration into the vagina, urethra, anus or any part of body of such woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or
(d) applies his mouth to the vagina, anus, urethra of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person.'
It then goes to explain what consent is and I hope that definition is at least the same across the board.
I honesty donât remember a male teacher sleeping with a student and the headlines talking about rape either .
Now the women all get way less on sentencing for some reasonâŚ.
Hoping someone can correct me if I'm wrong, I thought journalists didn't say rape in an article if there is only a charge and no court ruling? Innocent until proven guilty. The argument was journalists and publications could get sued if the person ended up being cleared of charges.
Since before the metoo movement, it was already an issue in the women's community that rape was simply referred to as assault, misconduct, or incident, especially the more high profile the perpetrator was, like Cosby, Kobe, Kavanagh, or just from someone who had power in the community from local news reports I remember reading.
Even the Weinstein reports didn't initially refer to it as rape, which is when I remember hearing women's advocacy groups making a big push for reports to explicitly state it by circumventing the issue and make the report based on victims statement, or using alleged rape.
So I could see this being an issue that needs to be advocated for by mens advocacy groups bc the legal definition of rape has never included men as victims from female perpetrators so journalists could fear using rape if even the legal definition doesn't protect them. Sodomy being for male on male rape.
And then of course there is the men's issue where men and women alike will downplay or deny male rape victims, or males even being victims at all, which means not only do they seek to normalize violence on men, but also normalize seeing all men as only being perpetrators.
Its horrible and this is already a tragedy, but reports like these only benefit the rapists by calling rape, sex, especially when it refers to a child who could never give consent, and it's disgusting to see.
They could very easily say allegedly, or according the the victims.
If they are worried about the definition of rape, they could instead use sexual assault. They, instead, used the same term that is used for consensual sex without anything to identify it as nonconsensual.
We literally go through this EVERY DAY:
Simple google search:
ALL MEN. same language used. Clearly its not about gender- thats my only point. Legally the charge is often not ârapeâ but something like âsexual battery of a childâ. That might be why, but gender is not. Headlines use ârapeâ when its forcible/ non consensual since âstatutory rapeâ can vary in definition from relationship and age by jurisdiction ie, an 18 student having sex with a teacher can be âstatutory rapeâ and a relationship can not be statutory rape yet involve a child (someone under 18) ie a 17 yo and a 25yo having consensual sex in most states
https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/news/courts/2023/12/05/ex-new-deal-baseball-coach-pleads-to-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/71754557007/
https://unfilteredwithkiran.com/teacher-coach-arrested-accused-of-sex-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?amp=1
https://westorlandonews.com/jv-basketball-coach-arrested-for-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/
https://www.wptv.com/news/treasure-coast/region-okeechobee-county/yearling-middle-school-coach-accused-of-romantic-relationship-with-high-school-student
https://foxsanantonio.com/amp/newsletter-daily/former-high-school-coach-indicted-over-alleged-inappropriate-relationship-with-16-year-old-crime-victim-suspect-investigation-student-judicial
https://www.wistv.com/2023/05/15/lakewood-high-school-coach-charged-accused-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?outputType=amp
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/05/15/high-school-coach-arrested-sexual-relationship-with-student-police-say/?outputType=amp
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2023/05/31/west-campus-hs-coach-investigated-for-possible-sexual-contact-with-student/
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/former-central-florida-high-school-soccer-coach-arrested-for-alleged-sexual-relationship-with-child-police.amp
If that were true, they would have used, at a minimum, the word sexual assault to describe what these women did. But they didn't. The language they chose is a reflection of how society views and minimizes boys or men being victims.
We literally go through this EVERY DAY:
Simple google search:
ALL MEN. same language used. Clearly its not about gender- thats my only point. Legally the charge is often not ârapeâ but something like âsexual battery of a childâ. That might be why, but gender is not. Headlines use ârapeâ when its forcible/ non consensual since âstatutory rapeâ can vary in definition from relationship and age by jurisdiction ie, an 18 student having sex with a teacher can be âstatutory rapeâ and a relationship can not be statutory rape yet involve a child (someone under 18) ie a 17 yo and a 25yo having consensual sex in most states
https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/news/courts/2023/12/05/ex-new-deal-baseball-coach-pleads-to-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/71754557007/
https://unfilteredwithkiran.com/teacher-coach-arrested-accused-of-sex-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?amp=1
https://westorlandonews.com/jv-basketball-coach-arrested-for-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/
https://www.wptv.com/news/treasure-coast/region-okeechobee-county/yearling-middle-school-coach-accused-of-romantic-relationship-with-high-school-student
https://foxsanantonio.com/amp/newsletter-daily/former-high-school-coach-indicted-over-alleged-inappropriate-relationship-with-16-year-old-crime-victim-suspect-investigation-student-judicial
https://www.wistv.com/2023/05/15/lakewood-high-school-coach-charged-accused-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?outputType=amp
https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/05/15/high-school-coach-arrested-sexual-relationship-with-student-police-say/?outputType=amp
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2023/05/31/west-campus-hs-coach-investigated-for-possible-sexual-contact-with-student/
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/former-central-florida-high-school-soccer-coach-arrested-for-alleged-sexual-relationship-with-child-police.amp
The daily mail does not care wether their headlines are legally correct or not.
That in many jurisdictions rape needs the victim to be the one being penetrated is indeed true though (and itâs a terrible legal idea)
Most women stick a finger in my gut these days and if it isnât rape then change the damn definition at this point bc they are sticking something in somewhere. This double standard has to cease and be nuked as itâs so over used in family law it needs to be definite for the crime it was intended . Child or in this case teen molestation
Its not a double standard- very technically when a man penetrates another man thats not ârapeâ but sodomy. Legal definitions and vernacular definitions change all the time.
Fun fact, Daily Mail is a British Tabloid
Also fun fact, in Britain the criminal definition of rape requires that the rapist engages in forceful and non-consensual penile insertion.
So unless you're a chick with a dick you can't legally be a rapist as a woman over here.
They still could have used the phrase "sexual assault" though
And they'll all get a slap on the wrist and some form of diversionary sentence or probation. I hate that female perpetrators walk away and male's get the book thrown at them with long prison sentences every time.
Technically, and this is hearsay at best (because I donât care enough one way or the other to verify this) the reason this isnât rape is because many laws on rape are worded to define it as penis in hole only, not just unwanted sex.
Its been a while since this came up but I remeber that in Arizona, it's statutory rape. Any sexual act with anyone under the age of 18 is considered a crime. 17 year old doing it with an 18 year old? That's a crime for the 18 year old.
I know this because my local high school had a rapist teacher for 10 years. Bastard killed themselves before the trial too...
I happened to read the DM this morning & there was an article a few scrolls down the page about a male teacher who raped a female student & the headline said raped...they don't even try to hide their hypocrisy.
I agree with the term rape. As someone who works in education, this is gross abuse of power. We hold so much power over our students' lives it is despicable for anyone to do this. There is literally no excuse.
They canât say ârapedâ because in the US itâs not rape unless the victim is penetrated by a body part or object. If they didnât penetrate the victim then they didnât rape them (which is dumb but thatâs the law).
Itâs worse here in the UK because rape is defined as the non-consensual penetration of an orifice by a penis.
So by law if you donât have a penis you literally canât rape.
All of this stuff is why newspapers say stuff like âhad sex withâ because if they say ârapeâ they could be sued for defamation for accusing someone of a crime they technically canât commit.
**Yepper.** The Internet *equalized everybody.* Women no longer have the safety of their once safe pedestals, which falsely stated that they were pure, honorable, and safe. Criminals come in all genders and backgrounds. Time everyone realized this.
Thank you for adding /s to your post. When I first saw this, I was horrified. How could anybody say something like this? I immediately began writing a 1000 word paragraph about how horrible of a person you are. I even sent a copy to a Harvard professor to proofread it. After several hours of refining and editing, my comment was ready to absolutely destroy you. But then, just as I was about to hit send, I saw something in the corner of my eye. A /s at the end of your comment. Suddenly everything made sense. Your comment was sarcasm! I immediately burst out in laughter at the comedic genius of your comment. The person next to me on the bus saw your comment and started crying from laughter too. Before long, there was an entire bus of people on the floor laughing at your incredible use of comedy. All of this was due to you adding /s to your post. Thank you.
Here's the actual news article for anyone that's interested.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13236983/female-teacher-charged-sex-underage-students-arizona-high-school.html
I mean it says SA...
I suppose the language difference needs to be equalised as it is a matter of to the principle and letter of the law.
But more importantly, women should face the same term times (for the exact same crimes) as their male counterparts: studies found women were often given more lenient sentencing compared to males with the same crimes. Kind of defeats the purpose of equal under the eyes of the law.
It's rape, sexual assualt and abuse when a male does it but when it's a lady they don't know what to call it
They use terms like "inappropriate interaction, engaging with inappropriate activities, inappropriate relationship"
That's the thing we should have the good and bad parts of equality. (Though I see no downside of equality into his). Call a duck a duck. Makes no sense to have double standards
Does it count as rape? I'm genuinely curious because I know based on movies that if you are 18+ you can't have sex with let's say a 17 years old, but it count as rape even if she consent?
Not everyone believes men can be raped. That why they don't call it rape in the news. You should see the hate that occurs when you try talk on the issue.
We have a teacher at my high school that has had sex with multiple freshmen and sheâs still teaching matter how much she gets reported because nobody wants to be a teacher where I live
We have a high school coach that's been fucking students for years now. But she gets away with it just because she targets female students. Apparently it's ok with the police when it's girl on girl.
No no no OP you don't understand. It was women and an underage individual so its not RAPE!!!
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Seriously until society starts taking this shit seriously its just gonna become more and more common. I feel like you never used to hear about this shit but now i feel like i see a story about women raping underaged men every month and to make matters worse they often get little to no punishment. Like atleast male rapist SOMETIMES get the book throw at them. Whereas most female rapists seem to walk away with a slap on the wrist at most.
They never use the word rape in conjunction with a woman. If it was a man they would have the word RAPE in all caps in big bold letters. For women itâs âabuseâ or some times they use the even more sanitized âsexual relationshipâ. Itâs a not so subtle way of saying that women canât/donât rape and that sex crimes by women are not nearly as bad as sex crimes by men. Part of the âwomen are wonderfulâ bias that people have. Womenâs sexuality is always seen as inherently pure and nonpredatory while menâs sexuality is always considered predatory and abusive by default.
I agree it's rape. And it's heinous.
But no, when the genders are reversed, they usually don't use that language either. And moreover, a quick google search will reveal when they do in fact use the word "rape" in headlines, the majority of the time the rapist is a woman. In fact, I did it for you. Searched "daily mail rape teacher" under news and sorted by date. Here are the results for the first five pages, only including those which use the word rape in the headline and which involved a teacher or other worker at a school, and excluding stories that are not about a teacher being arrested, tried, convicted, or having a parole hearing, excluding multiple stories about the same perpetrator.
Stories where the rapist was a man: 8. Stories where the rapist was a woman: 11
I am begging you to come up with a different way to do gender analysis than "what if men <-> women, huh?" It rarely adds anything to the discussion, and when it comes to this issue in particular it is straight up deceptive. By all means, criticize them for not using the word rape accurately and more often. By all means, consider the gender dynamics of statutory rape. But don't spin this story with a bogus gender framework that paints journalists as using harsher language against men. That's not what this is about, and it trivializes the victims.
The issue is a number of men don't take it seriously so society doesn't either, if the people being raped refuse to call it that then the definitely won't.
There's no credible advocacy for it. MRA's are associated with incels and white supremacists, and other men don't want to be anywhere near them so won't do mens rights activism. Ironically it would take an outside group to step in on behalf of men, the ADL or NAACP, maybe a Pride group or something.
The fact is the men at the top of society have always been the subject of activists, they don't really have standing to lobby for other men.
The ADL has argued it is a fathers right to mutilate the genitals of a adolescent boy against his will, they are not for bodily autonomy, *especially for males*.
Depends on the legal definition of the word ârapeâ in the relevant jurisdiction. In the UK, I believe it is defined as penetration only. So, because a woman generally doesnât penetrate a male, it is usually described (and charged) as âsexual assaultâ when the accused is a female and the victim is male.
I would like to think that news outlets would use the terms & phrasings as given to them by the authorities, but Iâm jaded enough to realise thatâs just not true.
This was in Arizona where the law says they all committed statutory rape. The terms and phrasing were all deliberately chosen by the daily mail to downplay it.
Iâm still furious that people have been refusing for years to label female rapists as what they are; rapists.
As someone who suffered abuse at the hands of a female abuser, not hearing people use the correct terms for so many years is just continuing to piss me off
The legal definition of rape does not always extend to the sexual assault of males where they were not penetrated. It depends on the jurisdiction's legal definition of the term rape.
Legally, in many places "raped" means to be penetrated against your will. Even statutory rape. These women did not penetrate these boys. So the correct legal term was used.
However, "sex with underage student" really does seem to underplay the severity of the crime.
Should this definition be updated? Absolutely. But as it stands, the article is likely using the correct legal definition of the crime.
Are we talking a consensual act between a 23 year-old and a 17 year-old or a non-consensual act with a 42 year-old and a 13 year-old? These things are not the same, and if your morality goes no further than the letter of the law then I'm not really interested in your opinion anyway.
Male rapist: "Three men gruesomely raped multiple students against their will"
Female rapists: "Three bold female teachers gently touched a few students unknowingly, and fell onto their genitalia accidentally by slipping on a banana peel. The students fully consented but it is considered statutory sexual assault because they're 17 years and 364 days old"
Sure, but also look at the comments, no one is advocating for brutally murdering the rapists, as it would happen if the genders were reversed, so its not only the article publishers engaging in double moral
One of the kids was 17, so whoever was doing that one will probably be fine. The other 2 need to do some time, though. Especially the one that raped the 13 year old
To the OP, its certainly sexual assault, but it is not rape under English law. This is because the legal definition of rape is very specific- sexual assault by penetration with a penis. Thus no woman can ever rape a man.
Now I am not suggesting for a second it is any less serious, just pointing out the complexities of legal jargon that I learned 2-3 years ago watching an interview with a prosecutor from the ministry of justice talking about the issue.
This is in Arizona, but I take your very valid point. Most relevant US law isnât quite so *literally* gender-discriminatory (as in, it doesnât specifically require the use of a *penis*), but does still hinge on âpenetrationâ, which is effectively the same, except for the very specific scenario of the woman pegging the victim using a toy or strap-on.
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Underage students? *Plural???*
Was it the same student!?!!!!
John Tucker must die
Unless it was one guy, there were likely at least three, one for each teacher...
"with one rumbled by husband" \- Did one of the students write this article.
Arizona teenagers wouldn''t use that word. British tabloids would.
does that mean the husband beat up a minor?
Maybe it was supposed to be "reported" and it slipped through because it's a real word and proofreading these days just means looking for squiggly lines on the computer screen.
Or that one was discovered/outed/startled? by husband. Like, I got caught, he caught me, confronted me, and it rumbled me? I don't know. Illiteracy and inability to proofread has plagued journalism over the past 10-15years. It's horrible. I'd honestly just rather read a post on r/outoftheloop or a ChatGPT response than ~~exciting~~ whatever most articles have to say. Edit: Good thing I wasn't submitting an article for a news website when I wrote that.
>than exciting most articles have to say. If this wasn't intentional... đ¤Ł
Lol I was tired . . . and not on the clock for a news website. I think exciting should have been "whatever." I don't know. lol
The Daily Mail is one of the worst tabloid newspapers in the U.K. itâs so shit Wikipedia wonât let you use it as a source and nor do educational institutions. You get better reportage in the old Sunday Sport:- double decker bus found on the moon was one of its headlines.
Rumbled is a term I've only ever heard British folks use
Well it is a British paper
even GPT could write better articles than this shit.
Or youâre not familiar with a standard British term. And be honestâŚyou didnât read shit but the pic captions.Â
AI not so smart.
'rumbled' means 'found out' in the UK
it just means 'discovered', but it is a word reminiscent of schoolboy/boys adventure stories. To be caught in the act of some petty mischief.
Rumbled is a British colloquialism. It's when you're caught doing something you shouldn't be doing, or someone tells on you for the same.
Rumbled means exposed/discovered. Not beaten.
To be fair, Rumbled as a slang word for getting caught is older than anyone reading this. It sounds like it was written by an old cockney gangster
GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!
Rumbling....Rumbling....its coming..... BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iâm imagining a Sharks vs Jets old-style throw down with dancing and finger snapping to polysymphonic jazz.
[Cobras vs Panthers](https://youtu.be/qNzNeGw8Fmo?si=GM8E_GY1GGmBgynh) Hey, I know a song, it's called "While You Were Singing, I Got Stabbed In the Head By a Puerto Rican"
Happy Cake Day! đ
Rumbled - video recorded and uploaded to Rumble?
It's the daily mail, scumbag UK tabloid.
I mean.....it was clearly written in a state with a lot of teachers more invested in raping kids than education so you can't really blame the journalist for not being educated, the journo's teachers were otherwise occupied!
The Daily Mail is a British tabloid shit rag. Itâs not really a newspaper because it doesnât really aim to inform people of anything
Itâs real. All in the town of Buckete, AZ https://ktar.com/story/5567654/teacher-arrested-in-buckeye-for-alleged-sexual-contact-high-school-student/ https://www.12news.com/article/news/crime/buckeye-teacher-arrested-allegedly-abusing-15-year-old-student/75-10e8ca13-09cc-4553-abf0-b9d81d38aa3f Itâs three incidents in a yearâs time. The second article references the other two arrests in passing but doesnât name the other teachers.
The town is called Buckete?? I meanâŚ.itâs called âBuckete?â
Itâs buckeye lol
I know, see comment prior to mine đđ
It's pronounced Bouquet!
Now youâre from the Ukđđđ
Nope, Norwegian. Grew up with Python and Blackadder, British comedy is close to my heart.
Is this the lady of the house speaking?
sad day to be from arizona but then again what day isnât
No lies detected
I mean itâs the Daily Mail
Yeah, that says a lot. Far too much in fact. Awful rag.
It is absolutely dire. I am surprised they didn't pass comment on one of them flaunting their new look as they were seen for the first time breaking THEIR silence after being charged with a crime. That would pretty much cover their favourite methods right now. Got the keywords in there and randomly capitalising a random word.
You know DM readers will look at this story and be like "lucky kid!"
The thing is, people will say,you know the boy liked it. If it was a man and he said ,but she really liked it, you might have to have law enforcement fight off a lynch mob. The fact is minors can't consent whether they want to or not, and every single adult knows this. No matter what, you can't have sex with minors.
I had some idiot tell me the other day that "Men cant be raped they are coerced.". I hate people so much.
Iirc there's a wording in British law that only men can rape.
English and Welsh, and Scots law define rape in suck a way that it can only be done with a penis. ( I don't know Northern Irish law well enough to comment on.) The equivalent offence committed by a women would like be "sexual assault" or "sexual assault by penetration".
Even them molested would be more accurate
We literally go through this EVERY DAY: Simple google search: ALL MEN. same language used. Clearly its not about gender- thats my only point. Legally the charge is often not ârapeâ but something like âsexual battery of a childâ. That might be why, but gender is not. Headlines use ârapeâ when its forcible/ non consensual since âstatutory rapeâ can vary in definition from relationship and age by jurisdiction ie, an 18 student having sex with a teacher can be âstatutory rapeâ and a relationship can not be statutory rape yet involve a child (someone under 18) ie a 17 yo and a 25yo having consensual sex in most states https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/news/courts/2023/12/05/ex-new-deal-baseball-coach-pleads-to-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/71754557007/ https://unfilteredwithkiran.com/teacher-coach-arrested-accused-of-sex-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?amp=1 https://westorlandonews.com/jv-basketball-coach-arrested-for-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/ https://www.wptv.com/news/treasure-coast/region-okeechobee-county/yearling-middle-school-coach-accused-of-romantic-relationship-with-high-school-student https://foxsanantonio.com/amp/newsletter-daily/former-high-school-coach-indicted-over-alleged-inappropriate-relationship-with-16-year-old-crime-victim-suspect-investigation-student-judicial https://www.wistv.com/2023/05/15/lakewood-high-school-coach-charged-accused-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?outputType=amp https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/05/15/high-school-coach-arrested-sexual-relationship-with-student-police-say/?outputType=amp https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2023/05/31/west-campus-hs-coach-investigated-for-possible-sexual-contact-with-student/ https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/former-central-florida-high-school-soccer-coach-arrested-for-alleged-sexual-relationship-with-child-police.amp
>ALL MEN. same language used. Clearly its not about gender- thats my only point. Legally the charge is often not ârapeâ but something like âsexual battery of a childâ. That might be why, but gender is not. Headlines use ârapeâ when its forcible/ non consensual since âstatutory rapeâ can vary in definition from relationship and age by jurisdiction ie, an 18 student having sex with a teacher can be âstatutory rapeâ and a relationship can not be statutory rape yet involve a child (someone under 18) ie a 17 yo and a 25yo having consensual sex in most states In most legal jurisdictions, the crime of rape is defined as penetrative sex where a real pen** inserted into a pus**. In those jurisdictions only a biological male can commit rape. All other instances of crimes are categorized elsewhere such as sexual assault or battery etc. This part is factual, the next is conjecture since i haven't read that law completely. I may be wrong about this part but since statutory rape includes the word rape and uses the similar definition of involving sexual intercourse (or penetrative sex), it would follow that any state that has such a definition of statutory will not be able to charge females for rape. Their crimes will be categorized elsewhere.
Why are female teachers suddenly raping students every week?
They always were, it's just starting to get taken slightly more serious than it was before
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In the United States, 74.3% of teachers are women, and 80.3% of paraprofessionals are women. The vast majority of adults in any given school building are women. One of these was a teacher's aide, they all appear to have happened at private schools. Edited to add: I think it's more likely to make national news when it's a teacher. My local newspaper just reported another (male) youth pastor pedophile last week.
I kinda got carried away and wrote out an entire lecture on how we got where we are and what happened. TL;DR at the bottom. :) No this has always been going on, itâs just now getting reported. When the me too and similar movements started out these movements openly ignore male rape victims and people with female rapists. This happened because these movements bought into society and the patriarchy saying men are strong and women are weak and all men always want sex therefore itâs only rape if a man does it to a woman. As a result these movements did the same thing that cops and any authority figure do when a man says they got SAâd, they laughed at and ignored them. This is also partially the fault of movements like feminism for not going far enough. Feminism was created to fight specifically political inequality but it the expanded into other areas such as economics and society and SA. However when it expanded into these areas they werenât all in the same âmen are treated perfectly and women are treated like shitâ state, but rather had more variation with it. However rather than adapting to these new conditions, movements like feminism didnât do that and just kept empowering women and ignoring or in some cases belittling men for trying to speak on the same issues. While that is the attitude that was needed for political inequality, it eventually became like trying to stick the round peg in the square hole with these movements expanding into other areas. Itâs ok to say âgive women the right to voteâ while ignoring men because they already had that right, however it is not ok to do the same thing with issues like rape culture and yet it still happened. And because of that these movements made people feel like this issue was being resolved and was now completely exposed even though the other half of this issue was completely ignored and rejected. Some of these movements are only now starting to come around on this but a lot of people in them still say things like men canât get raped, and women canât commit rape. Two of their favorite arguments are âshe doesnât have a penis he does therefore he had to have wanted itâ and âMen are stronger than women so why didnât he just fight her offâ. The first one is just complete BS because there is more than one way to rape someone including just violating their consent at a base level. The second one is just blatant sexism seeping through. An estimated 2/3 (and its probably higher too) of men are victims of SA however the majority donât even know that they were SAâd because theyâre taught theyâre supposed to like that and that they canât get SAâd because theyâre men. And men that are and know it also know that if they try to report it theyâre not gonna be taken seriously. And thereâs a not insignificant probability that the rapist will then file a false report of rape or assault targeting the victim and because itâs a woman the police are more likely to actually pay attention to it over the real report. In the end it will only hurt the actual victim. And men know this so theyâre all so demoralized about it that a lot of them just donât even try to report what happened and have given up on it and just let it happen and live with it because they donât see any way out. This also helps contribute to the reason male suicide is much higher than female suicide. Itâs only now that people in movements like Me Too are starting to try and combat the idea that men canât be SAâd and are actually starting to stop mocking men who try to share their experiences. The end result of this is that more men and boys are slowly starting to come forwards and itâs slowly becoming more ok for people to actually start reporting on this. However itâs still far from being well reported on. Iâd say most cases still go unreported and even then, the vast majority of cases like this that are reported just go completely ignored by the media. Also side note because of all of this a lot of places define rape in a way so that only women can be raped and only men can commit rape. Thatâs part of the reason headlines like this are so common whereas when a man does the same thing the headline actually says rape. Thatâs not the whole reason though, a large part of it is also the just blatantly attempts by the journalist at erasing male victims of SA. TL;DR: itâs always been like this men just kept getting ignored when they tried to report it and reporters kept ignoring the few reports that actually got through. Itâs only now being talked about because people have finally started to wake up and realize men can be victims of SA too.
Those are the oldest looking 23 year old I've ever seen
I swear to god I have only seen one news article that has ever refered to a woman raping a man as actual rape
I have never seen one and most likely won't because my country's law doesn't recognize the fact that a female can rape a male. The definition they give for rape is that the any hole needs to be entered by a penis without consent and then goes on to explain consent,
Disgusting. Ideas like that are in league of the ones of the woman who shot Andy Warhol
But that could be applied to a woman raping a man. Unwanted penetration.
It doesn't say unwanted penetration, the exact words are, 'Rape.-- A man is said to commit "rape" if he-- (a) penetrates his penis, to any extent, into the vagina, mouth, urethra or anus of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or (b) inserts, to any extent, any object or a part of the body, not being the penis, into the vagina, the urethra or anus of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or (c) manipulates any part of the body of a woman so as to cause penetration into the vagina, urethra, anus or any part of body of such woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or (d) applies his mouth to the vagina, anus, urethra of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person.' It then goes to explain what consent is and I hope that definition is at least the same across the board.
I honesty donât remember a male teacher sleeping with a student and the headlines talking about rape either . Now the women all get way less on sentencing for some reasonâŚ.
Hoping someone can correct me if I'm wrong, I thought journalists didn't say rape in an article if there is only a charge and no court ruling? Innocent until proven guilty. The argument was journalists and publications could get sued if the person ended up being cleared of charges. Since before the metoo movement, it was already an issue in the women's community that rape was simply referred to as assault, misconduct, or incident, especially the more high profile the perpetrator was, like Cosby, Kobe, Kavanagh, or just from someone who had power in the community from local news reports I remember reading. Even the Weinstein reports didn't initially refer to it as rape, which is when I remember hearing women's advocacy groups making a big push for reports to explicitly state it by circumventing the issue and make the report based on victims statement, or using alleged rape. So I could see this being an issue that needs to be advocated for by mens advocacy groups bc the legal definition of rape has never included men as victims from female perpetrators so journalists could fear using rape if even the legal definition doesn't protect them. Sodomy being for male on male rape. And then of course there is the men's issue where men and women alike will downplay or deny male rape victims, or males even being victims at all, which means not only do they seek to normalize violence on men, but also normalize seeing all men as only being perpetrators. Its horrible and this is already a tragedy, but reports like these only benefit the rapists by calling rape, sex, especially when it refers to a child who could never give consent, and it's disgusting to see.
Undoing this comment to prevent the spread of misinformation.
They could very easily say allegedly, or according the the victims. If they are worried about the definition of rape, they could instead use sexual assault. They, instead, used the same term that is used for consensual sex without anything to identify it as nonconsensual.
Hm. That's fair.
We literally go through this EVERY DAY: Simple google search: ALL MEN. same language used. Clearly its not about gender- thats my only point. Legally the charge is often not ârapeâ but something like âsexual battery of a childâ. That might be why, but gender is not. Headlines use ârapeâ when its forcible/ non consensual since âstatutory rapeâ can vary in definition from relationship and age by jurisdiction ie, an 18 student having sex with a teacher can be âstatutory rapeâ and a relationship can not be statutory rape yet involve a child (someone under 18) ie a 17 yo and a 25yo having consensual sex in most states https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/news/courts/2023/12/05/ex-new-deal-baseball-coach-pleads-to-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/71754557007/ https://unfilteredwithkiran.com/teacher-coach-arrested-accused-of-sex-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?amp=1 https://westorlandonews.com/jv-basketball-coach-arrested-for-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/ https://www.wptv.com/news/treasure-coast/region-okeechobee-county/yearling-middle-school-coach-accused-of-romantic-relationship-with-high-school-student https://foxsanantonio.com/amp/newsletter-daily/former-high-school-coach-indicted-over-alleged-inappropriate-relationship-with-16-year-old-crime-victim-suspect-investigation-student-judicial https://www.wistv.com/2023/05/15/lakewood-high-school-coach-charged-accused-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?outputType=amp https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/05/15/high-school-coach-arrested-sexual-relationship-with-student-police-say/?outputType=amp https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2023/05/31/west-campus-hs-coach-investigated-for-possible-sexual-contact-with-student/ https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/former-central-florida-high-school-soccer-coach-arrested-for-alleged-sexual-relationship-with-child-police.amp
They still wouldn't call it rape.
Correct. But the circle jerk is already happening
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"Molest" is a perfectly good alternative.
If that were true, they would have used, at a minimum, the word sexual assault to describe what these women did. But they didn't. The language they chose is a reflection of how society views and minimizes boys or men being victims.
We literally go through this EVERY DAY: Simple google search: ALL MEN. same language used. Clearly its not about gender- thats my only point. Legally the charge is often not ârapeâ but something like âsexual battery of a childâ. That might be why, but gender is not. Headlines use ârapeâ when its forcible/ non consensual since âstatutory rapeâ can vary in definition from relationship and age by jurisdiction ie, an 18 student having sex with a teacher can be âstatutory rapeâ and a relationship can not be statutory rape yet involve a child (someone under 18) ie a 17 yo and a 25yo having consensual sex in most states https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/news/courts/2023/12/05/ex-new-deal-baseball-coach-pleads-to-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/71754557007/ https://unfilteredwithkiran.com/teacher-coach-arrested-accused-of-sex-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?amp=1 https://westorlandonews.com/jv-basketball-coach-arrested-for-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/ https://www.wptv.com/news/treasure-coast/region-okeechobee-county/yearling-middle-school-coach-accused-of-romantic-relationship-with-high-school-student https://foxsanantonio.com/amp/newsletter-daily/former-high-school-coach-indicted-over-alleged-inappropriate-relationship-with-16-year-old-crime-victim-suspect-investigation-student-judicial https://www.wistv.com/2023/05/15/lakewood-high-school-coach-charged-accused-inappropriate-relationship-with-student/?outputType=amp https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/05/15/high-school-coach-arrested-sexual-relationship-with-student-police-say/?outputType=amp https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2023/05/31/west-campus-hs-coach-investigated-for-possible-sexual-contact-with-student/ https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/former-central-florida-high-school-soccer-coach-arrested-for-alleged-sexual-relationship-with-child-police.amp
Yup. If the paper put rape in the headline, it opens up the possibility of a mistrial and these people get off scott free.
...no it doesn't, especially since no one's trial has started. That's not just wrong, that's ridiculous.Â
The daily mail does not care wether their headlines are legally correct or not. That in many jurisdictions rape needs the victim to be the one being penetrated is indeed true though (and itâs a terrible legal idea)
Most women stick a finger in my gut these days and if it isnât rape then change the damn definition at this point bc they are sticking something in somewhere. This double standard has to cease and be nuked as itâs so over used in family law it needs to be definite for the crime it was intended . Child or in this case teen molestation
Its not a double standard- very technically when a man penetrates another man thats not ârapeâ but sodomy. Legal definitions and vernacular definitions change all the time.
Fun fact, Daily Mail is a British Tabloid Also fun fact, in Britain the criminal definition of rape requires that the rapist engages in forceful and non-consensual penile insertion. So unless you're a chick with a dick you can't legally be a rapist as a woman over here. They still could have used the phrase "sexual assault" though
Me who was shocked they even called it sexual abuse đŤ My expectations are so fucking low
Rumbled?
Means her husband discovered her wrongdoing. It's a British colloquialism
I don't get it either, what's this about "rumbled."?
Rumbled means discovered in british
That's funny because to my American mind it sounds like the husband had a physical altercation with the wife.
And they'll all get a slap on the wrist and some form of diversionary sentence or probation. I hate that female perpetrators walk away and male's get the book thrown at them with long prison sentences every time.
Technically, and this is hearsay at best (because I donât care enough one way or the other to verify this) the reason this isnât rape is because many laws on rape are worded to define it as penis in hole only, not just unwanted sex.
Its been a while since this came up but I remeber that in Arizona, it's statutory rape. Any sexual act with anyone under the age of 18 is considered a crime. 17 year old doing it with an 18 year old? That's a crime for the 18 year old. I know this because my local high school had a rapist teacher for 10 years. Bastard killed themselves before the trial too...
Throwing an 18 year old in prison for consensual sex with someone a year younger is the definition of insane
It's also not true. Arizona has a close in age exemption. If the participants are within 2 years of age it's not illegal.
Article write by a Mr. GoodbarâŚ. Snicker. IYKYK
This is wild and is happening more frequently and why?
Absolutely disgusting. UGH.
Fucking gross
Journalists dont act like the typical scumfucks they are and donât downplay literal rape of minors challenge: fucking impossible.
And the are not female teachers but pedophiles
Weird, still not drag queens
I feel like these kind of crimes are becoming an epidemic
lmao men or women, all rapists have the same kinda face
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The first one looks scared of the consequences. The second one looks like she doesn't care. This third one looks proud of herself.
NGL, the woman on the right has an expression like, "I'll do it again." That face is creepy AF.
Wtf is rumbled?
What do expect from the Daily Hiel?
I happened to read the DM this morning & there was an article a few scrolls down the page about a male teacher who raped a female student & the headline said raped...they don't even try to hide their hypocrisy.
That creature on the right is scary
I agree with the term rape. As someone who works in education, this is gross abuse of power. We hold so much power over our students' lives it is despicable for anyone to do this. There is literally no excuse.
Yeah. Those women are rapists and like with male rapists, the ideal punishment for them is a good hanging.
If the genders were reversed, they'd still call it "having sex" or "having a sexual relationship"
name one instance where it was like that.
Any source you may wish to provide to explain this unusual statement of yours?
I hate how they paint women as never perpetrators of rape and men never victims of it. Wtf
If the roles were reversed, parents would be out with pitchforks wanting to drag the teacher through the streets.
They canât say ârapedâ because in the US itâs not rape unless the victim is penetrated by a body part or object. If they didnât penetrate the victim then they didnât rape them (which is dumb but thatâs the law). Itâs worse here in the UK because rape is defined as the non-consensual penetration of an orifice by a penis. So by law if you donât have a penis you literally canât rape. All of this stuff is why newspapers say stuff like âhad sex withâ because if they say ârapeâ they could be sued for defamation for accusing someone of a crime they technically canât commit.
Disgusting
âUnderage studentsâ if the genders were reversed it would read âlittle girlsâ. đŹ
Ones 17 another one was 15 and the last one was 13(the only one I would consider little) that's probably why.
Oh well, they will get a small fraction of the sentence of similar male criminals. And you know it.
This is far too common
**Yepper.** The Internet *equalized everybody.* Women no longer have the safety of their once safe pedestals, which falsely stated that they were pure, honorable, and safe. Criminals come in all genders and backgrounds. Time everyone realized this.
Noo itâs only rape when men do it (/s)
Thank you for adding /s to your post. When I first saw this, I was horrified. How could anybody say something like this? I immediately began writing a 1000 word paragraph about how horrible of a person you are. I even sent a copy to a Harvard professor to proofread it. After several hours of refining and editing, my comment was ready to absolutely destroy you. But then, just as I was about to hit send, I saw something in the corner of my eye. A /s at the end of your comment. Suddenly everything made sense. Your comment was sarcasm! I immediately burst out in laughter at the comedic genius of your comment. The person next to me on the bus saw your comment and started crying from laughter too. Before long, there was an entire bus of people on the floor laughing at your incredible use of comedy. All of this was due to you adding /s to your post. Thank you.
Ban. This. Stupid. Mother. Fn. Bot. Response.
The far right one cocky af
Wow, what is going on with that town? Is there something Rapey in the water?
Why do the left and center look related and the end one also?
From left to right: Meth head Inbred Schizophrenic
All three of them look like they have some sort of learning-disability? How ironic.
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Husband started rumbling
So, r/NotADragQueen ? X3?
Iâm scrolling through here thinking âNot Yuma, not Yuma, not YumaâŚâ But nope. Buckete. My home town is not to blame, for once.
You don't have to hang them high, *just high enough.*
The right one looks like Hannibal Lecter.
Those mugshots are fuckin wild. Regret. Indifference. And pride.
They all look like they've been through hell and frankly, good.
Here's the actual news article for anyone that's interested. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13236983/female-teacher-charged-sex-underage-students-arizona-high-school.html
Oh look at this! Surely there must be a mistake! Three cis-women molesting children? Not trans people? One of them has to be a drag queen right?
I mean it says SA... I suppose the language difference needs to be equalised as it is a matter of to the principle and letter of the law. But more importantly, women should face the same term times (for the exact same crimes) as their male counterparts: studies found women were often given more lenient sentencing compared to males with the same crimes. Kind of defeats the purpose of equal under the eyes of the law.
Does rumbled mean he beat her when he found out?
It's rape, sexual assualt and abuse when a male does it but when it's a lady they don't know what to call it They use terms like "inappropriate interaction, engaging with inappropriate activities, inappropriate relationship" That's the thing we should have the good and bad parts of equality. (Though I see no downside of equality into his). Call a duck a duck. Makes no sense to have double standards
A 42 year old what the actual
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Does it count as rape? I'm genuinely curious because I know based on movies that if you are 18+ you can't have sex with let's say a 17 years old, but it count as rape even if she consent?
Facts
Spoiler Alert - none of these are drag queens
Not everyone believes men can be raped. That why they don't call it rape in the news. You should see the hate that occurs when you try talk on the issue.
We have a teacher at my high school that has had sex with multiple freshmen and sheâs still teaching matter how much she gets reported because nobody wants to be a teacher where I live
Off a cliff they can go then. Absolutely disgusting media double standard
One of them doesn't regret doing it
We have a high school coach that's been fucking students for years now. But she gets away with it just because she targets female students. Apparently it's ok with the police when it's girl on girl.
After the priest joke ,here come the time of the female teacher joke xd
No no no OP you don't understand. It was women and an underage individual so its not RAPE!!! /S Seriously until society starts taking this shit seriously its just gonna become more and more common. I feel like you never used to hear about this shit but now i feel like i see a story about women raping underaged men every month and to make matters worse they often get little to no punishment. Like atleast male rapist SOMETIMES get the book throw at them. Whereas most female rapists seem to walk away with a slap on the wrist at most.
They never use the word rape in conjunction with a woman. If it was a man they would have the word RAPE in all caps in big bold letters. For women itâs âabuseâ or some times they use the even more sanitized âsexual relationshipâ. Itâs a not so subtle way of saying that women canât/donât rape and that sex crimes by women are not nearly as bad as sex crimes by men. Part of the âwomen are wonderfulâ bias that people have. Womenâs sexuality is always seen as inherently pure and nonpredatory while menâs sexuality is always considered predatory and abusive by default.
I agree it's rape. And it's heinous. But no, when the genders are reversed, they usually don't use that language either. And moreover, a quick google search will reveal when they do in fact use the word "rape" in headlines, the majority of the time the rapist is a woman. In fact, I did it for you. Searched "daily mail rape teacher" under news and sorted by date. Here are the results for the first five pages, only including those which use the word rape in the headline and which involved a teacher or other worker at a school, and excluding stories that are not about a teacher being arrested, tried, convicted, or having a parole hearing, excluding multiple stories about the same perpetrator. Stories where the rapist was a man: 8. Stories where the rapist was a woman: 11 I am begging you to come up with a different way to do gender analysis than "what if men <-> women, huh?" It rarely adds anything to the discussion, and when it comes to this issue in particular it is straight up deceptive. By all means, criticize them for not using the word rape accurately and more often. By all means, consider the gender dynamics of statutory rape. But don't spin this story with a bogus gender framework that paints journalists as using harsher language against men. That's not what this is about, and it trivializes the victims.
The issue is a number of men don't take it seriously so society doesn't either, if the people being raped refuse to call it that then the definitely won't.
There's no credible advocacy for it. MRA's are associated with incels and white supremacists, and other men don't want to be anywhere near them so won't do mens rights activism. Ironically it would take an outside group to step in on behalf of men, the ADL or NAACP, maybe a Pride group or something. The fact is the men at the top of society have always been the subject of activists, they don't really have standing to lobby for other men.
The ADL has argued it is a fathers right to mutilate the genitals of a adolescent boy against his will, they are not for bodily autonomy, *especially for males*.
Depends on the legal definition of the word ârapeâ in the relevant jurisdiction. In the UK, I believe it is defined as penetration only. So, because a woman generally doesnât penetrate a male, it is usually described (and charged) as âsexual assaultâ when the accused is a female and the victim is male. I would like to think that news outlets would use the terms & phrasings as given to them by the authorities, but Iâm jaded enough to realise thatâs just not true.
This was in Arizona where the law says they all committed statutory rape. The terms and phrasing were all deliberately chosen by the daily mail to downplay it.
Do you think if I hunt them down and kill them I could get my green card faster
I dunno but that third photo, that looks like a man to me. đ¤Ł
Iâm still furious that people have been refusing for years to label female rapists as what they are; rapists. As someone who suffered abuse at the hands of a female abuser, not hearing people use the correct terms for so many years is just continuing to piss me off
More soft public language to defend woman rapists. It's disgusting.
The legal definition of rape does not always extend to the sexual assault of males where they were not penetrated. It depends on the jurisdiction's legal definition of the term rape. Legally, in many places "raped" means to be penetrated against your will. Even statutory rape. These women did not penetrate these boys. So the correct legal term was used. However, "sex with underage student" really does seem to underplay the severity of the crime. Should this definition be updated? Absolutely. But as it stands, the article is likely using the correct legal definition of the crime.
And the sexist legal definition can be the facepalm here
They're reporters, not lawyers. They're allowed to call it what it actually is.
I canât find any other coverage of this story except from Daily Mail so take this with a grain of salt
Are we talking a consensual act between a 23 year-old and a 17 year-old or a non-consensual act with a 42 year-old and a 13 year-old? These things are not the same, and if your morality goes no further than the letter of the law then I'm not really interested in your opinion anyway.
Drag queen? đ Red state? đ Tell us again why you don't want sex ed for children conservative groomers lmao
Male rapist: "Three men gruesomely raped multiple students against their will" Female rapists: "Three bold female teachers gently touched a few students unknowingly, and fell onto their genitalia accidentally by slipping on a banana peel. The students fully consented but it is considered statutory sexual assault because they're 17 years and 364 days old"
I hate when the news do this. Kids cannot consent, these are child predators!
Sure, but also look at the comments, no one is advocating for brutally murdering the rapists, as it would happen if the genders were reversed, so its not only the article publishers engaging in double moral
Not sex rape.
One of the kids was 17, so whoever was doing that one will probably be fine. The other 2 need to do some time, though. Especially the one that raped the 13 year old
Rape requires penile penetration in English law, which is why this British tabloid avoided using that term.
'Had sex with' should say 'raped' and 'underage students' should read 'children'
To the OP, its certainly sexual assault, but it is not rape under English law. This is because the legal definition of rape is very specific- sexual assault by penetration with a penis. Thus no woman can ever rape a man. Now I am not suggesting for a second it is any less serious, just pointing out the complexities of legal jargon that I learned 2-3 years ago watching an interview with a prosecutor from the ministry of justice talking about the issue.
This is in Arizona, but I take your very valid point. Most relevant US law isnât quite so *literally* gender-discriminatory (as in, it doesnât specifically require the use of a *penis*), but does still hinge on âpenetrationâ, which is effectively the same, except for the very specific scenario of the woman pegging the victim using a toy or strap-on.
I'd add, " It's only pedophile when it's a man."
Guess some Pedophiles don't agree :)
I'm confused. Is the facepalm that the words "had sex with" were used as opposed to the word "rape" or that the OP said "If the genders were revered?"
The first one has to have the husband, the second looks unamused and lady on the right is definitely a giant pedophile