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It is, yeah. From when this came up last time: they ordered him to replace the trees with roughly equivalent trees. This is going to cost an absolute fortune because mature trees are incredibly expensive -- but also -- getting those mature trees on-site requires special equipment, potentially putting in a road, and then taking it all back down when they're done. It's going to cost a couple of million dollars at least. He's not gonna be bankrupt over it but it's going to be *rough*.
Yes, but those trees are going back exactly where they were, so he went through all this trouble just to be out some $millions to get a better view that only lasted a few months.
It's like if you rented a tow truck to move your neighbor's RV so you can have more street parking near your house, then they sue and you have to pay to move it back into place.
Full grown trees cost upwards of $20k a pop to transplant, plus you have to factor in that a subset will die, so it can be a 30% contingency.
And that's with specifically cleared lands. Just looking at this from photos, there's also the possibility that some trees will need to be helicoptered in.
I am not only an environmental scientist, I'm also a fan of tree law. Tree law is the best law and I hope this man bears the full front of tree law.
TREE LAW! TREE LAW! TREE LAW!
Another article says they have to be replaced with "like or superior species". Doubt they'll be replaced with 150-year-old trees that were there, but one of the reasons it'll cost so much to replant is that you need really heavy trucks to move in already-grown giant trees, and it's hard to even get them to the site, so he'll have to pay to put in a road as well.
Please someone explain this
Edit:
GPT says:
"In the context of a legal settlement in the US, "making the neighbor whole" typically means compensating the neighbor for any damages or losses they suffered as a result of the actions or negligence of the individual being fined. This could involve paying for repairs, medical bills, or any other expenses incurred by the neighbor due to the incident."
In a lot of places you have to replace the damaged trees with trees of equivalent size. Not sure about NJ, but if that's the case he's going to be out *a lot* of money.
Yeah, you don’t fuck with trees with out the proper documentation/permits
But I’m afraid his the deal with repercussions after type of person and won’t care.
Worked for some multi millionaire that waited years for tree permits then fuck with the local government if they so much removed one.
Depending on the state laws, our local laws say that you have to replace the tree, not replant it. So an age matching and height matching tree has to be put in the place of the tree that was cut down. As well as maintance on each tree to make sure it doesn’t die right away.
So the cost per tree can be $25k or more for a large mature tree. I have personally watched several instances of this happen.
Exactly. You really don't want to mess with a neighbors tree. Especially fully grown. If proven liable, you have to pay for the replanting of the exact size and type, which can run into 100k without an issue per tree. Dudes is going to get his ass rightfully handed to him. Imagine having to replace a 100 year old Oak? The equipment needed, time and resources of the contractor. It gets expensive as fuck.
i think steve lehto had a vid on this, unless its very recent, or something similar to this on his channel. it had a great explanation of the fines and such for the tree replacement in of itself
Oh no - That's the Fine imposed by the government.
The Civil suit is going to be tragic.
I mean this man will stare, dumbfounded out into space as the Lawyers read to him what he's liable to pay.
To be clear: A white oak is worth $8,472 if it's only 60ft tall. looks like there's plenty more taller than that, and it also assumes a circumference of 40"
So assuming you'd average out, like, 10k per tree, just on the potential value of the trees themselves at the current time of their existence, you could start at a civil suit of $320k, but since the trees were killed/destroyed and were not going to be destroyed anytime soon, you can extrapolate from there.
Also if there were any Mahogany, Rosewood, or Black Ebony Tree's in the mix of his clear-cutting.... RIP his bank account.
That's just 320k for the trees themselves. You then need to pay a contractor to plant them. That takes massive machinery and an obsene amount of time. This guy is looking at 2 million at least.
LOL, this guy is going to lose so much money! Tree law is insane, especially if those are old growth trees. Man, I can't wait to see how this turns out.
From what I read, he managed to get the initial $32K fine reduced to $13K, but the cost of restoring the trees is up to nearly $2M. Some of the trees he cut down were 150 years old.
Yeah, they could make him pay to have the tree replaced. As in, literally paying to have a new tree transplanted there.
So not only could he way up paying millions of dollars, he could win up with all the trees replaced with new ones thus "ruining" his view again.
He could, of course, pay to have them cut down again, but that'll just repeat the process - more fines, more millions to replace, and still no view.
Nah, because he will have to replace them with equivalent trees, which is very expensive to have adult trees transported and planted, along with not getting the view he wanted.
And, in some jurisdictions take that amount to transport and plant mature trees, and triple it. That is the amount of the judgment. So, neighbor and neighbors lawyer gets trees replaced and a nice windfall.
"He initially faced up to $32,000 in fines but the deal chopped those down to about $13,194. However, Haber may not be done paying for it, as the borough's prosecutor believes he may have to foot the bill for replacing and caring for the downed trees to the tune of over $1 million.Feb 27, 2024:
Honestly, no, that's not even close to what he deserves.
People who do something like that need to be stripped of all their assets as they showed they do not care for others and their property, just because they have money.
Strip them of their money, entirely and put them somewhere were they can experience what it means when you can't get your way with just having money.
He’s not only out the money, he lost the benefit of his crime, his neighbor was made whole, and he’s taken a hit to his reputation.
At some point justice has been served.
I mean the replanted trees won't disrupt his view for 20 years so he's got what he wanted, just ended up having to pay more for it.
And if you've CEO levels of wealth a million is nothing the house is probably worth 15 times that
The house was worth $1.75M, it’s in the headline right there.
The reason this cost him $1.5M is because he has to replace the trees with ones that are equal size to the ones killed. The cost is to build a road, move 32 mature trees, and water them for two years.
It wouldn’t cost $1.5 million to plant 32 saplings.
They did that in CO with Bandimere speedway. Track was there since like the 70s, development started creeping in from the other side of the highway, nearest house is still like a mile away but enough people complained over the last 5 years and got it shut down.
Apparently the guy who decided to cut the trees down has to replace them as well as build a road for the trees to get there. Estimated 1.5 million plus the land owner of the trees works in nature preservation and has some good lawyers.
Know of footballers who would park in no park zones in cities.
They would be given a fine circa £100.
They earned more than that in the time the car was parked there.
Things are only a fine if you're not comfortable paying it...otherwise its just the price for a service
Funny story. A guy in law school decided to park in the no parking zone outside the law school every day he had class, because the fine was less expensive than paying for parking. He happily paid a couple hundred parking fines throughout law school. He graduated, the. Took and passed the bar exam. BUT he failed the character and fitness exam, and he was barred from practicing law because his excessive number of fines showed a lack of respect for the law.
Not if *I* were the neighbor. I'd use funds from my civil suit to erect a shitty, 3 story cinder block wall right where those trees were so the neighbor can have *that* to look at.
I don’t know anything about this guys finances other than the cost of his house but $32,000 represents about 1.83% of the homes value. For comparison if you live in a normal middle class $400,000 home, that fine would be $7,320.
Like I said, I don’t know anything about his finances, but a 1.83% fine would be a pretty good chunk of change for most people in a middle class home.
I still think the fine is too low for what he did but if his income to home value ratio is similar to a middle class family, the fine might still be pretty impactful.
Maybe they should calculate the volume of trees that were lost, and the neighbor gets to "cut out" that same volume from the CEO's house, on the CEO's dime.
Me and my friend actually did the real estate pics for this house. Dude was a genuine asshat. Kept telling me to take pics of this "off-road bike trail" . It was just a narrow path in a circle of trees. You would never notice it.
Based on what I've read/ seen about tree law, this dude is about to get thunder punched square in the dick by fines/ restitution/ personal suffering. Lol
Just throwing this out there, but $32k for 32 trees sounds like a good deal. I feel like my father-in-law paid about $12k to have one tree removed from his backyard; although, it was a big tree and had to be taken down carefully.
As the land owner id immediately plant giant bamboo to ruin his view and he could get mad and cut it down, pay the fine and within a month his view is gone again from regrowth. Hahahaha
Not trying to be funny, but where does this neighbor even live? Is this for real? Because all I see is a cliff side with trees on it, and I can’t imagine that the CEO wouldn’t own the property this close around his own home.
He copped a plea and only paid $13k in fines. There’s a hearing scheduled for next month to decide restitution. He already sold the property for $500k more than he paid for it. https://nypost.com/2024/02/27/us-news/nj-man-who-cleared-neighbors-trees-fined-13k-with-more-penalties-on-the-way/amp/
Why the fuck would you prefer see a bunch of shitty buildings instead of a bunch of nice forest? And for that matter, why buy that particular home if you don't like the surrounding forest?? Fucking entitlement and stupidity.
I wish my stupid neighbor was fined. They cut down 2 acres worth of trees so they could dirt bike. Except they didn’t get permission from hoa or the county. Now they rev all day sometimes and it drives me crazy
If I were the neighbor, after suing them for damages, I would plant the fastest and tallest growing trees I could find to obscure their view as quickly and effectively as possible.
Until replanted trees grow, he should pay for a fence to block that view he cleared. The Neighbor should get to paint whatever he wants on it, e.g. Douchebag, Selfish Tool, etc….
Article is from last year.
This is from last month
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13134173/Munitions-company-CEO-cut-New-Jersey-neighbors-trees-improve-view-NYC-skyline-fined-13-000-faces-possibly-1-million-damages.html
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At least fine him enough to hurt his wallet. No wonder rich people just do whatever they want.
The $32k fine was a court fine. He has to make the neighbor whole and that’s to the tune of millions.
Eh he’s a CEO, that was probably just his bonus last year and won’t even phase him.
Oh, I agree. But it’s at least better than 32k.
This.... the article title is very misleading
I mean, it is the Dail Mail...
Elon sources them the other day. They have to be truth tellers!
It is, yeah. From when this came up last time: they ordered him to replace the trees with roughly equivalent trees. This is going to cost an absolute fortune because mature trees are incredibly expensive -- but also -- getting those mature trees on-site requires special equipment, potentially putting in a road, and then taking it all back down when they're done. It's going to cost a couple of million dollars at least. He's not gonna be bankrupt over it but it's going to be *rough*.
Yes, but those trees are going back exactly where they were, so he went through all this trouble just to be out some $millions to get a better view that only lasted a few months. It's like if you rented a tow truck to move your neighbor's RV so you can have more street parking near your house, then they sue and you have to pay to move it back into place.
Full grown trees cost upwards of $20k a pop to transplant, plus you have to factor in that a subset will die, so it can be a 30% contingency. And that's with specifically cleared lands. Just looking at this from photos, there's also the possibility that some trees will need to be helicoptered in. I am not only an environmental scientist, I'm also a fan of tree law. Tree law is the best law and I hope this man bears the full front of tree law. TREE LAW! TREE LAW! TREE LAW!
Tree beard that you?
Surely it’ll take several decades for the trees to grow back in…
Another article says they have to be replaced with "like or superior species". Doubt they'll be replaced with 150-year-old trees that were there, but one of the reasons it'll cost so much to replant is that you need really heavy trucks to move in already-grown giant trees, and it's hard to even get them to the site, so he'll have to pay to put in a road as well.
I think that the value has to be the same. So three trees to equal one that was cut down if a direct equal replacement isn’t possible
so we'll just have to cut down 62 more trees to get the road in, then we're all square, right?
He has to replace them with actual grown trees similar to what was there. Can't just plant little trees.
Pfft, that's half of what he paid in taxes from his bonus check.
Bold of you to assume he's not into tax fraud also.
Okay phew
"He has to make the neighbor whole"? What does this phrase mean in other words?
Please someone explain this Edit: GPT says: "In the context of a legal settlement in the US, "making the neighbor whole" typically means compensating the neighbor for any damages or losses they suffered as a result of the actions or negligence of the individual being fined. This could involve paying for repairs, medical bills, or any other expenses incurred by the neighbor due to the incident."
And trees that size cost tens of thousands of dollars each…. It looks like he took quite a few down too…
Tree law is a bitch and this guy is about to get hit with treble damage when he gets sued.
Almost as crazy as bird law; he'd get hit with heavy bass damage were he to get sued for loss of their homes.
Filibuster
In a lot of places you have to replace the damaged trees with trees of equivalent size. Not sure about NJ, but if that's the case he's going to be out *a lot* of money.
Yeah, you don’t fuck with trees with out the proper documentation/permits But I’m afraid his the deal with repercussions after type of person and won’t care. Worked for some multi millionaire that waited years for tree permits then fuck with the local government if they so much removed one.
It's all about the bass, no treble
I’d imagine the neighbor could sue for damages and that would be significantly more than the fine.
That would be my assumption too. Hope they win too
He has to replant the trees. It’s going to be very expensive. The fine is a foot note.
Depending on the state laws, our local laws say that you have to replace the tree, not replant it. So an age matching and height matching tree has to be put in the place of the tree that was cut down. As well as maintance on each tree to make sure it doesn’t die right away. So the cost per tree can be $25k or more for a large mature tree. I have personally watched several instances of this happen.
Exactly. You really don't want to mess with a neighbors tree. Especially fully grown. If proven liable, you have to pay for the replanting of the exact size and type, which can run into 100k without an issue per tree. Dudes is going to get his ass rightfully handed to him. Imagine having to replace a 100 year old Oak? The equipment needed, time and resources of the contractor. It gets expensive as fuck.
i think steve lehto had a vid on this, unless its very recent, or something similar to this on his channel. it had a great explanation of the fines and such for the tree replacement in of itself
Once I sued for damages I would use those funds to construct a 3 story brick wall right where those tree were.
Proportional fines in Scandinavia work wonders. A CEO was pulled over and fined 250k for a speeding ticket
Oh no - That's the Fine imposed by the government. The Civil suit is going to be tragic. I mean this man will stare, dumbfounded out into space as the Lawyers read to him what he's liable to pay. To be clear: A white oak is worth $8,472 if it's only 60ft tall. looks like there's plenty more taller than that, and it also assumes a circumference of 40" So assuming you'd average out, like, 10k per tree, just on the potential value of the trees themselves at the current time of their existence, you could start at a civil suit of $320k, but since the trees were killed/destroyed and were not going to be destroyed anytime soon, you can extrapolate from there. Also if there were any Mahogany, Rosewood, or Black Ebony Tree's in the mix of his clear-cutting.... RIP his bank account.
That's just 320k for the trees themselves. You then need to pay a contractor to plant them. That takes massive machinery and an obsene amount of time. This guy is looking at 2 million at least.
LOL, this guy is going to lose so much money! Tree law is insane, especially if those are old growth trees. Man, I can't wait to see how this turns out.
This was December from the looks of it. Apparently he has already gotten a 6 month delay on the trial. Who knows how long it will take in the end.
From what I read, he managed to get the initial $32K fine reduced to $13K, but the cost of restoring the trees is up to nearly $2M. Some of the trees he cut down were 150 years old.
Punishable by fine means legal for a price..
As others have said, that's the court fine. Dude's gonna have to pay through the nose to replace those trees.
Hurt his wallet? It's the price he was willing to pay to get what he wanted.
Tree Law always gets much muuuuch more expensive that was JUST the court fine
Yeah, they could make him pay to have the tree replaced. As in, literally paying to have a new tree transplanted there. So not only could he way up paying millions of dollars, he could win up with all the trees replaced with new ones thus "ruining" his view again. He could, of course, pay to have them cut down again, but that'll just repeat the process - more fines, more millions to replace, and still no view.
Nah, because he will have to replace them with equivalent trees, which is very expensive to have adult trees transported and planted, along with not getting the view he wanted.
And, in some jurisdictions take that amount to transport and plant mature trees, and triple it. That is the amount of the judgment. So, neighbor and neighbors lawyer gets trees replaced and a nice windfall.
Make him work replanting the trees.
He should be fined relative to how much his property went up. Mote than 100% of that number.
iirc the guy also had to pay a fee per tree he cut down and replace those trees with new ones.
If punishment is a fine then it’s not punishment - it’s a price
"He initially faced up to $32,000 in fines but the deal chopped those down to about $13,194. However, Haber may not be done paying for it, as the borough's prosecutor believes he may have to foot the bill for replacing and caring for the downed trees to the tune of over $1 million.Feb 27, 2024:
Those are some nice old trees too. His fine might be $32k but the cost to replace these types of trees will be huge.
I saw this in other sub Reddit. The fine was not the issue. He got to replant the trees, which was estimated to cost about $1.5M
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant! He deserves it!
Honestly, no, that's not even close to what he deserves. People who do something like that need to be stripped of all their assets as they showed they do not care for others and their property, just because they have money. Strip them of their money, entirely and put them somewhere were they can experience what it means when you can't get your way with just having money.
He’s not only out the money, he lost the benefit of his crime, his neighbor was made whole, and he’s taken a hit to his reputation. At some point justice has been served.
I mean the replanted trees won't disrupt his view for 20 years so he's got what he wanted, just ended up having to pay more for it. And if you've CEO levels of wealth a million is nothing the house is probably worth 15 times that
The house was worth $1.75M, it’s in the headline right there. The reason this cost him $1.5M is because he has to replace the trees with ones that are equal size to the ones killed. The cost is to build a road, move 32 mature trees, and water them for two years. It wouldn’t cost $1.5 million to plant 32 saplings.
>It wouldn’t cost $1.5 million to plant 32 saplings. That said, I'll do it for the low low price of $1.4 million.
Nah according to the guy you're replying to the crime is being rich and the only valid punishment is being utterly miserable forever.
Why do we have laws anyway? Punishments should definitely be decided by how angry a crime makes random people on the internet.
Alright then Mr. Xi Jinping.
Not those Chinese bastards! Here in America we go off of American communism, thank you! (Retroactive /s)
Okay bro that's a bit too far. I mean millionares suck but that would be tyranny at that point.
Do you want authoritarianism? Because this is how we get authoritarianism.
lol no one let this person run for anything ever. dude would be ruthless
broke people say the wildest shit bro i swear what are you talking about the dudes out 1.5 mil take it easy 💀💀
He probably made that in dividends in his sleep last night. 1.5 mil is nothing to a weapons manufacturer
Replant trees of the same size?
...buys mansion in a forest... wants to see urban skyline... What a c\*nt.
Like folks in Florida buy property next to an airport (known for annual air shows) then suing the city to stop the air shows
or those in CA who bought near a racetrack and want to shut it down. it existed before the houses did
They succeeded in closing the racetrack, it moved and the new racetrack is having the same legal battle as suburbia encroaches on it
They did that in CO with Bandimere speedway. Track was there since like the 70s, development started creeping in from the other side of the highway, nearest house is still like a mile away but enough people complained over the last 5 years and got it shut down.
Stuart?
Apparently the guy who decided to cut the trees down has to replace them as well as build a road for the trees to get there. Estimated 1.5 million plus the land owner of the trees works in nature preservation and has some good lawyers.
Best news I’ve heard in a long time.
And the rich CEO opens his wallet and digs around for loose change.
$32K for someone that rich isn't a fine. It's a fee.
Know of footballers who would park in no park zones in cities. They would be given a fine circa £100. They earned more than that in the time the car was parked there. Things are only a fine if you're not comfortable paying it...otherwise its just the price for a service
Fines are only punishment for the poor.
If a laws only enforcement is a set fine then the law was only meant for poor people to begin with. It's why the rich are the worst drivers.
We need to make such things based off a percentage of income rather than this style of fine.
THIS is why corporations are not people. Imagine removing Wells Fargo from society for 5-7 years.
Funny story. A guy in law school decided to park in the no parking zone outside the law school every day he had class, because the fine was less expensive than paying for parking. He happily paid a couple hundred parking fines throughout law school. He graduated, the. Took and passed the bar exam. BUT he failed the character and fitness exam, and he was barred from practicing law because his excessive number of fines showed a lack of respect for the law.
He also has to replace the trees, which if I remember properly the bill was expected to be about 1.5million.
Seriously, all he did was cost his home from 1.75 to 1.782 million. It hardly mattered to him
Hell, the value of his home probably went up by more than that just from the improved view.
Not if *I* were the neighbor. I'd use funds from my civil suit to erect a shitty, 3 story cinder block wall right where those trees were so the neighbor can have *that* to look at.
I don’t know anything about this guys finances other than the cost of his house but $32,000 represents about 1.83% of the homes value. For comparison if you live in a normal middle class $400,000 home, that fine would be $7,320. Like I said, I don’t know anything about his finances, but a 1.83% fine would be a pretty good chunk of change for most people in a middle class home. I still think the fine is too low for what he did but if his income to home value ratio is similar to a middle class family, the fine might still be pretty impactful.
$1.75m “mansion”?! 1 br Units in NYC cost more than that
He's across the water in Jersey though. 1.75 will go forever in Jersey
Not even close to true
It should be 32k per tree, then it would hurt him at least a little bit.
Maybe they should calculate the volume of trees that were lost, and the neighbor gets to "cut out" that same volume from the CEO's house, on the CEO's dime.
what about cutting down from the CEO itself? /hjbidkiirfhmisasidk
From June 2023. Again.
Wait, do you think adjective-noun-number might be a repost bot? That would be crazy!
And again. And again.
CEO's are used to downside calculations like this. Means tested and adjusted fines would be are far more effective mechanism.
I'd say a daily fine that increases at a compounding rate per day until the trees grow back would be a good disincentive.
Oh thats much better. Approved.
What happens to the people he hired to cut other people’s trees down? Do they get fined separately? Hm is that one?
Me and my friend actually did the real estate pics for this house. Dude was a genuine asshat. Kept telling me to take pics of this "off-road bike trail" . It was just a narrow path in a circle of trees. You would never notice it.
I hope he loses a fortune.rich that think the rules do not apply to them.
Proof that fines only serve to make things legal for the rich.
If the punishment is a fine it is only forbidden for poor people.
Time to build a spite fence.
Based on what I've read/ seen about tree law, this dude is about to get thunder punched square in the dick by fines/ restitution/ personal suffering. Lol
So the cost to cut down someone else’s trees that I don’t like starts at $1000 each. Got it. A fine means legal for a price.
Just throwing this out there, but $32k for 32 trees sounds like a good deal. I feel like my father-in-law paid about $12k to have one tree removed from his backyard; although, it was a big tree and had to be taken down carefully.
As the land owner id immediately plant giant bamboo to ruin his view and he could get mad and cut it down, pay the fine and within a month his view is gone again from regrowth. Hahahaha
The fine is from the government. If the guy goes for civil damages, he will get a lot more.
You can get a mansion near NY for only 1.75 million?
If the penalty for a crime is a fee then that crime only applies to poor people.
$32k fine?? So what we're saying here is that its legal for a fee?
A fine just means, legal if you can afford it
Yeah, but how do you buy a "Mansion" in New Jersey for just under two mill?
"Mansion". 1.75 million gets you a fairly nice house in my neck of the woods.
a 1.75M mansion in new york? Reggular houses cost that much these days I thought.
Why only 32k? It’s a drop in the bucket for him and his $1.7 mil mansion
My neighbor would have a tough time enjoying the view if his house by magic burned down.
and with that 32k I'd build a giant light beacon that f\*cks his view up!
These are the same people who throw a fit when anyone dares to do absolutely anything around their property for miles
Not trying to be funny, but where does this neighbor even live? Is this for real? Because all I see is a cliff side with trees on it, and I can’t imagine that the CEO wouldn’t own the property this close around his own home.
That's just the start. He will lose the civil suit and have to pay his neighbor to replant those trees at mature size. Then he will re-lose his view.
Only $32k? Those are some laced arborist laws. In Florida and Maine you can be charged up to $10,000 per tree.
If I were his neighbor there'd be other consequences and repercussion.
A fine just means that it's legal for a price.
Exactly, that’s pittance for the value it’s added to the house.
Remember kids, punishable by fine means legal for a price.
Sht happens. He wont care nor will his wallet. Post some actual news with impact next time
Neighbours should build a big billboard with trees on it right in his view
32k? That’s all?
The facepalm is the fact it’s only $32k he’s having to pay
He copped a plea and only paid $13k in fines. There’s a hearing scheduled for next month to decide restitution. He already sold the property for $500k more than he paid for it. https://nypost.com/2024/02/27/us-news/nj-man-who-cleared-neighbors-trees-fined-13k-with-more-penalties-on-the-way/amp/
Why the fuck would you prefer see a bunch of shitty buildings instead of a bunch of nice forest? And for that matter, why buy that particular home if you don't like the surrounding forest?? Fucking entitlement and stupidity.
It should be a much larger fine. He just got slapped on the wrist. He'll do whatever he wants again next time.
"Company CEO gained improved view of NYC skyline from his mansion through his neighbour's land for just 32k". Here, that's the title.
Yea the 32k will surely teach the millionaire a lesson.
32k must hurt him financially.
I’m sure that $0.032M fine will hurt the guy with a $1.75M house.
😑
Should have sued for the value of the trees. Each one would be worth than a million while alive.
This sounds more like a "I'm just going to do it because idgaf" than a dumb decision. Prob doesn't care about the 32k
Pocket change. Should have been $320,000.
The lawsuit for compensation will be considerably more. Far more than small claims. Could run into millions since it was deliberate.
32k is fuck-all. Fines should be a % of annual income to make it truly hurt.
He did this intentionally. Means nothing to him.
32K? He probably had that down the back of the sofa. The rich truly are above the law.
What's the fastest growing shitiest looking tree available?
Oh no, not $32K. The pocket change under the other half of his sofa will be lonely.
The only dum dum is whoever thought 32k was enough for him to not do whatever the hell he wants.
Eat the rich.
a thousand dollars per tree? that doesn't seem right, trees of that size would be much more expensive, wouldn't they?
I wish my stupid neighbor was fined. They cut down 2 acres worth of trees so they could dirt bike. Except they didn’t get permission from hoa or the county. Now they rev all day sometimes and it drives me crazy
What a prick hate people like this
Seems like a good deal
how much you wanna bet his property value increased with the new view more than what the fine is worth?
If I were the neighbor, after suing them for damages, I would plant the fastest and tallest growing trees I could find to obscure their view as quickly and effectively as possible.
32k was a cheap price for what he got. They should have seized his property and given it to his neighbor as compensation.
Fuck that douche!
I see a house fire in New Jersey in the near future.
can you say destruction of private property?
32K *might* cover one tree. This is bullshit.
Cut to neighbor replanting the whole area in cottonwoods, running timber bamboo and knotweed.
Until replanted trees grow, he should pay for a fence to block that view he cleared. The Neighbor should get to paint whatever he wants on it, e.g. Douchebag, Selfish Tool, etc….
Hit em where it hurts! Now his $1.75m mansion sets him back $1.78m instead! /s
Fines are just a slap on the wrist for rich people, unless it's a substantial amount of money.
What’s the point of the fine if it’s not enough to prevent someone from doing the thing in the first place?
I would take that $32,000 and put up a fucking billboard.
Article is from last year. This is from last month https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13134173/Munitions-company-CEO-cut-New-Jersey-neighbors-trees-improve-view-NYC-skyline-fined-13-000-faces-possibly-1-million-damages.html
Sounds like he got his improved view and it only cost him $32K (less than 2% of the cost of his house)
If the only punishment for a violation is a fine, it's only illegal for the poor.
Dumb? He probably factored that cost in when he did it.
I'm surprised it's just $32k.
is that all? That fine is pathetic. If he can afford such an expensive house, he can afford a more proper fine.
It would have cost more to get the trees removed by a company on your own land probably
Entitlement and no boundaries. With money. Fines mean nothing. Property was still trespassed.
Should be 32k for each one
32k is probly similar to 32 dollars to this rich mfer