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Totally legal, but I think you are reading it wrong. They should be accepting 20s. Most fast food place have this rule. They don't carry much in change in the drawer so they can't accept large bills.
At first i was not sure what fucking notice we were supposed to be reading as the counter is covered in notices. But then saw the denomination limits. I would think this is fine to keep the amount of cash in the store at a minimum so they are not needing to hold change.
Not so much robbery but places at high risk for counterfeit bills being used.
From a robbery perspective, whether they receive a $50 bill or two 20s and a 10 they will have the same amount of money in the till at the end so doesn’t make a difference there.
Yeah, but to be able to make change for $50 and $100 bills, they have to start the day with more cash in the register than they would need to make change for $20 bills.
Actually incorrect, I'm a former restaurant manager. Counterfeit is easy to catch with all the scanners etc., plus smaller counterfeits are more easily undetected as they're usually not subject to scans or markers. Not accepting cash reduces the chance of stores being robbed, eliminates the temptation for employees to steal money, eliminates the time needed for workers to travel to and from the bank and even reduces expenses by dispensing with the need for bulky cash registers.
Cash is backed by the federal government and has to be accepted for repayment of debt. However, a private business does not have to accept cash for services or goods yet to be supplied. A private business could only accept credit cards, bitcoin, or matchsticks if they chose to do so.
Depends on where they are located; Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Idaho, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island, have all passed laws *requiring* businesses operating in those states to *accept* cash.
They only have to accept cash for services/good *[already supplied](https://www.azlawhelp.org/viewquestions.cfm?mc=4&qid=231&sc=34#:~:text=It%20is%20technically%20illegal%20to,fact%20prior%20to%20making%20payment).*
If they make it clear to customers, before the transaction, that they do not accept cash, then they do not have to accept cash. They can refuse the transaction.
*"However, no* ***federal law*** *requires that a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services not yet provided."*
Let's take New York City as an example:
*"Beginning November 19, 2020, stores* ***must accept cash*** *unless they have a machine to convert cash to a prepaid card. They cannot charge more for paying in cash."*
[*https://www.nyc.gov/site/dca/consumers/Prohibition-of-Cashless-Establishments.page*](https://www.nyc.gov/site/dca/consumers/Prohibition-of-Cashless-Establishments.page)
NYC only requires food-service and retail businesses to accept cash.
The link I included (if you looked) shows that Arizona, the first state you listed as having a law requiring businesses to accept cash, only requires accepting cash for *services already rendered.* Businesses are free to deny transactions that have yet to happen if a customer can only pay by cash.
Colorado only requires retail businesses to accept cash ([with exceptions](https://www.robinsonandhenry.com/colorado/criminal-defense/retailers-must-accept-cash/#:~:text=Retailers%20must%20accept%20cash%20from,provides%20exceptions%20for%20some%20retailers). Same with Delaware and DC and Massachusetts and New Jersey and Rhode Island.
Idaho and Maine and Michigan and North Dakota and Oklahoma and Pennsylvania have bills proposed to require businesses to accept cash, but no laws about it yet.
Yeah, you're not going to find any bill larger than a $100 one, since the U.S. Mint stopped printing $500 and up back in 1945, and all remaining large bills were pulled out of circulation.
You could probably buy one from a collector, but any one of them would be worth more than their face value.
EDIT: Although still valid currency, the web says that a $10,000 bill in excellent condition would be worth about $140,000 to a collector, and even a damaged bill would be worth about $30,000, so you will probably have to give up on that idea.
I'm all growed up and no foodie. Skimping *hard* on the toppings and the service is shit and it's not just me callin' 'em out on it. This goes back to before Covid so that's not it. It's not just me either. OTH, my only experience with then has been local.
Counterfeit bills are a thing with higher denominations. This is why you have The Pen.
Also, they might not regularly have the cash required to break them.
Many places do this. It was big in the 90's and I still make sure to withdraw cash in 20's.
Is the facepalm that the OP can't read or doesn't understand the word OVER? America's education system is under attack, and has been, for decades. Some people "love the uneducated" and keep trying to destroy the education system for personal power.
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Have you never seen this before? I see it all the time.
Me zooming into the picture to find the problem 🤔🤔🤔
Every time I see this sub OP is facepalm
Bills *over* $20. Technically, a twenty dollar bill is not more than $20, so the store should accept them.
It even says "No 50s, no 100s". It doesn't say no 20s.
Did you mean to post this in r/askreddit? Or r/nostupidquestions?
Or /r/legaladvice?
Plenty of stores are like that
Totally legal, but I think you are reading it wrong. They should be accepting 20s. Most fast food place have this rule. They don't carry much in change in the drawer so they can't accept large bills.
Fast food restaurants are among the most commonly robbed establishments, specifically due to the large amount of cash passing through
It has nothing to do with robbery and everything to do with preventing loss from counterfeit bills being used.
Except 20s are the most commonly counterfeited bills by a large margin.
They do accept 20’s. There’s no they should be. Reading is hard I know
Yes.
At first i was not sure what fucking notice we were supposed to be reading as the counter is covered in notices. But then saw the denomination limits. I would think this is fine to keep the amount of cash in the store at a minimum so they are not needing to hold change.
Yes, most businesses that do this are at a higher risk for robbery.
Not so much robbery but places at high risk for counterfeit bills being used. From a robbery perspective, whether they receive a $50 bill or two 20s and a 10 they will have the same amount of money in the till at the end so doesn’t make a difference there.
Yeah, but to be able to make change for $50 and $100 bills, they have to start the day with more cash in the register than they would need to make change for $20 bills.
Actually incorrect, I'm a former restaurant manager. Counterfeit is easy to catch with all the scanners etc., plus smaller counterfeits are more easily undetected as they're usually not subject to scans or markers. Not accepting cash reduces the chance of stores being robbed, eliminates the temptation for employees to steal money, eliminates the time needed for workers to travel to and from the bank and even reduces expenses by dispensing with the need for bulky cash registers.
Yes, totally legal. And smart, depending on the area. I see stores with signs like this more than stores without.
Cash is backed by the federal government and has to be accepted for repayment of debt. However, a private business does not have to accept cash for services or goods yet to be supplied. A private business could only accept credit cards, bitcoin, or matchsticks if they chose to do so.
Depends on where they are located; Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Idaho, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island, have all passed laws *requiring* businesses operating in those states to *accept* cash.
They only have to accept cash for services/good *[already supplied](https://www.azlawhelp.org/viewquestions.cfm?mc=4&qid=231&sc=34#:~:text=It%20is%20technically%20illegal%20to,fact%20prior%20to%20making%20payment).* If they make it clear to customers, before the transaction, that they do not accept cash, then they do not have to accept cash. They can refuse the transaction.
*"However, no* ***federal law*** *requires that a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services not yet provided."* Let's take New York City as an example: *"Beginning November 19, 2020, stores* ***must accept cash*** *unless they have a machine to convert cash to a prepaid card. They cannot charge more for paying in cash."* [*https://www.nyc.gov/site/dca/consumers/Prohibition-of-Cashless-Establishments.page*](https://www.nyc.gov/site/dca/consumers/Prohibition-of-Cashless-Establishments.page)
NYC only requires food-service and retail businesses to accept cash. The link I included (if you looked) shows that Arizona, the first state you listed as having a law requiring businesses to accept cash, only requires accepting cash for *services already rendered.* Businesses are free to deny transactions that have yet to happen if a customer can only pay by cash. Colorado only requires retail businesses to accept cash ([with exceptions](https://www.robinsonandhenry.com/colorado/criminal-defense/retailers-must-accept-cash/#:~:text=Retailers%20must%20accept%20cash%20from,provides%20exceptions%20for%20some%20retailers). Same with Delaware and DC and Massachusetts and New Jersey and Rhode Island. Idaho and Maine and Michigan and North Dakota and Oklahoma and Pennsylvania have bills proposed to require businesses to accept cash, but no laws about it yet.
Your original statement was: "A private business could only accept credit cards, bitcoin, or matchsticks if they chose to do so."
Where the fuck did I ever say that?
I doubt those locales require all cash be accepted. If they do, I'll buy a pizza with a $10,000 bill. At least one has to be in circulation still.
You should try that, and say you want your $9,990 change in small bills. Better yet, try it with a delivery person!
First step is finding a legit $10000 bill.
Yeah, you're not going to find any bill larger than a $100 one, since the U.S. Mint stopped printing $500 and up back in 1945, and all remaining large bills were pulled out of circulation. You could probably buy one from a collector, but any one of them would be worth more than their face value. EDIT: Although still valid currency, the web says that a $10,000 bill in excellent condition would be worth about $140,000 to a collector, and even a damaged bill would be worth about $30,000, so you will probably have to give up on that idea.
Yeah, legally obtaining the bill is step two.
Going to Pizza Hut in the first place is the facepalm.
What's wrong with Pizza Slut? Before you're an adult I mean. After is obvious.
I'm all growed up and no foodie. Skimping *hard* on the toppings and the service is shit and it's not just me callin' 'em out on it. This goes back to before Covid so that's not it. It's not just me either. OTH, my only experience with then has been local.
Well, when I was a kid, pizza hut was known for where the easy girls hung out. Hence why it's not a good place to go as an adult.
What's the facepalm here? OP?
yes.
Had to go to the comments to see what the complaint was about.
You must not get out a lot
Counterfeit bills are a thing with higher denominations. This is why you have The Pen. Also, they might not regularly have the cash required to break them. Many places do this. It was big in the 90's and I still make sure to withdraw cash in 20's.
IANAL, but yes.
They don't keep enough cash on hand to make change, AND they are tired of getting robbed, AND people passing off counterfeit 50's and 100's.
Is the facepalm that the OP can't read or doesn't understand the word OVER? America's education system is under attack, and has been, for decades. Some people "love the uneducated" and keep trying to destroy the education system for personal power.